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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:29:00 -
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so umm... what are missiles good for now?
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Anonymous Troll
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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No, CCP did not go too far with missiles.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour I suppose now that the patch is out, Ill let you in on the secret. PWNAGE. Ive been buying it up like mad for the last few months, and now its for sale for 20x what i paid for it. PWNAGE is now necessary.
For those of you new to using PWNAGE, search for Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron.
Well yeah, 95% of PvE takes place within TP range. A CNR can easily fit one, and they take a few days at most to skill for.
As for PvP... not so sure. But hey I just trained lasers, so I get to mothball my cerb and use a Zealot.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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Hitting ships that fit a MWD.
Lights to hit frigs. Heavies to hit cruisers or BC. Cruiser or torps for BS
Not that difficult.
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment so umm... what are missiles good for now?
When compared to guns, nothing. Unless you catch a HAC nano-ing.
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment so umm... what are missiles good for now?
the same thing ravens and golems and caldari missle boats are good for now, reprocessing and selling the mins to buy AF and other skillbooks. maybe a hulk or something to mine in high sec.
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Pilot Abilene
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:31:00 -
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SO... they brought large missiles back in line with large turrets, what's the problem?
...also what's the deal with all these missile users that don't know how to use drones? lol
Oh and btw, I think its funny as hell that all these people saying they are going to train Amarr now because they seem to think large energy turrets are going to hit small targets any better. Hope you're prepared to train most gunnery skills to 5 and be prepared to still miss a lot of hits vs smaller targets. ^.^
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Demonic Sentiment so umm... what are missiles good for now?
When compared to guns, nothing. Unless you catch a HAC nano-ing.
ok and now that nanoing doesnt exist anymore?
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard Hitting ships that fit a MWD.
Lights to hit frigs. Heavies to hit cruisers or BC. Cruiser or torps for BS
Not that difficult.
I admire (actually, not really) your ability to ignore what all the people who actually use missiles are saying and simply claim that they are fine.
Guess what? They aren't. They have drastically reduced DPS.
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pilot Abilene SO... they brought large missiles back in line with large turrets, what's the problem?
...also what's the deal with all these missile users that don't know how to use drones? lol
Oh and btw, I think its funny as hell that all these people saying they are going to train Amarr now because they seem to think large energy turrets are going to hit small targets any better. Hope you're prepared to train most gunnery skills to 5 and be prepared to still miss a lot of hits vs smaller targets. ^.^
well for one thing my cerberus doesnt have a drone bay lol
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Suitonia on 12/11/2008 03:33:39 oh**** I have to fit a web, or a gang mate does just like with turret ships?
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Demonic Sentiment so umm... what are missiles good for now?
When compared to guns, nothing. Unless you catch a HAC nano-ing.
ok and now that nanoing doesnt exist anymore?
That's why everyone is rather upset.
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Demonic Sentiment
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Demonic Sentiment
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Demonic Sentiment so umm... what are missiles good for now?
When compared to guns, nothing. Unless you catch a HAC nano-ing.
ok and now that nanoing doesnt exist anymore?
That's why everyone is rather upset.
really?
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Demonic Sentiment really?
Well, except for Gallente players. Well, except for sub-BS Gallente players.
Who use drones.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:37:00 -
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Enjoy the nano nerf, Caldari pigs.
Turret tracking got nerfed by 400% in webrange.
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kilhu Emmek on 12/11/2008 03:44:40 Edited by: Kilhu Emmek on 12/11/2008 03:43:59 Anyone test stealth bombers yet?
Not sure if I should weep or start getting chuffed that I have good ishkur skills, too.
ME LIKE GO FAST ZOOOOOM.
Edit: so is the vengeance (rockets!) a pwnmobile now? Because I just trained into that thing last week after years of not touching Amarr boats.
Edit edit: I'm so upset over missiles that I forgot how to spell a few words. --
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Enjoy the nano nerf, Caldari pigs.
Turret tracking got nerfed by 400% in webrange.
Tell that to someone firing t2 blasters. that's a bit of ouch.
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Mr Banzai
Caldari Rogue Squadron
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:45:00 -
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Yes to op.
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Dark 'Shadow
Talocan Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Banzai Yes to op.
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Helios III
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:55:00 -
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The OP didn't ask any questions, however this seems a good place to say that I think missiles are fine.
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Vikarion on 12/11/2008 03:57:45
Originally by: Helios III The OP didn't ask any questions, however this seems a good place to say that I think missiles are fine.
Let me guess...you don't use them much, right?
Let's see your certificates.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:58:00 -
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Who thinks CCP went too far with nanos?
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:04:00 -
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Nano isnt dead, everything is now default nanod (versus missiles) but at much slower relative speeds.
Quote: SO... they brought large missiles back in line with large turrets, what's the problem?
No. Proper sized missiles versus proper sized target is default -damage before resists without AB or MWD. Painter minimum required now, even against same size ship. Unlike Turrets.
CCP needs to require armor tanking gun ships to lose another low slot in order to do proper damage to the same size ship class, just like shield tankers have to do now.
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GO MaZ
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:04:00 -
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You know what? I ****in love this patch. The only thing broken with it is the scramblers, everything else is great. Sure, I'm gonna have to refit some of my ships and trash some polycarbs, but overall I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out (and CCP actually listening to people when it came to missile damage and tracking related to the speed nerf).
Shame my nano apoc won't work anymore, but oh well. I'll find a use for it as a ninja sniper or something
Oh yeah, the missile changes? They're fine. Fit a target painter ---
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
CCP needs to require armor tanking gun ships to lose another low slot in order to do proper damage to the same size ship class, just like shield tankers have to do now.
We lost 3 midslots if we want to get somewhere near old tracking values. Caldari whiners are better off.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Soporo
CCP needs to require armor tanking gun ships to lose another low slot in order to do proper damage to the same size ship class, just like shield tankers have to do now.
We lost 3 midslots if we want to get somewhere near old tracking values. Caldari whiners are better off.
Only if you're attempting to engage a smaller ship class with an outsized weapon.
You're fine against same size class at ship default speeds and you know it. Missiles are not, and you know that too.
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Leon vanUber
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari missiles
Enjoy your nano nerf, Caldari.
It's nothing personal. I just want your stuff, and more importantly the fun of the fight. |
Korovyov
Luminous Love Brewery
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo Only if you're attempting to engage a smaller ship class with an outsized weapon.
You're fine against same size class at ship default speeds and you know it. Missiles are not, and you know that too.
Blaster Whiners > Missile Whiners
Hell, they were keen on the impending doom months ago while you guys were busy... not noticing?
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Korovyov
Originally by: Soporo Only if you're attempting to engage a smaller ship class with an outsized weapon.
You're fine against same size class at ship default speeds and you know it. Missiles are not, and you know that too.
Blaster Whiners > Missile Whiners
Hell, they were keen on the impending doom months ago while you guys were busy... not noticing?
I was too busy pointing out that autocannons and artillery are terrible.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.12 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Korovyov
Originally by: Soporo Only if you're attempting to engage a smaller ship class with an outsized weapon.
You're fine against same size class at ship default speeds and you know it. Missiles are not, and you know that too.
Blaster Whiners > Missile Whiners
Hell, they were keen on the impending doom months ago while you guys were busy... not noticing?
That's actually pretty accurate. Personally I didn't take notice until just before the patch. My fault for not doing QA's job. I quit my QA (another company) job, I don't want to pay for the priviledge of being CCP's QA.
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