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Judge Ment
Zero Gravity Inc Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:34:00 -
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So Star Wars Galaxy died because the devs change the game mechanics to help the beginners out. I think something similar happening to EVE in away. So what your guess?
Just my opinion
BTW Tantrum Rise "wonderful name" ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions. |
Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Judge Ment So Star Wars Galaxy died because the devs change the game mechanics to help the beginners out. I think something similar happening to EVE in away. So what your guess?
Just my opinion
BTW Tantrum Rise "wonderful name"
Troll.
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:36:00 -
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Generic thread will recieve generic responses.
EVE 'Megacorp or STFU' Online |
Ticondrius
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:39:00 -
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I'm not taking the whiners side, but in what way did this 'help' the beginners? It took away the ultra easy way to gank and get rich and brought it in-line with the rest of the game. Easymode: Off. If anything, it helped them by taking away the unrealistic expectation of this being a ultra-casual (read WoW-like) MMO they can just jump into and pewpew for 5-15 minutes of fun. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:44:00 -
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With webs nerfed and missiles harder to use, the beginners thrived and took over EVE, and the vets moved on.
The End. |
Judge Ment
Zero Gravity Inc Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:46:00 -
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Think you have me wrong there bud! I am not whining - Just pointing out some resemblances. Of course SWG died because of in game mechanics *(and sure they made it easier for the new people to conquer) Now I'm not going to go off and say that EVE did the same thing. I'm just going to say that the more drastic changes eve does the more your going to see people leave the game!
FYI I already knew the pile of crap I was going to step in before I posted this |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Judge Ment So Star Wars Galaxy died because the devs change the game mechanics to help the beginners out. I think something similar happening to EVE in away. So what your guess?
i'm guessing you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
oh, hey, look at that - i guessed right.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:47:00 -
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No, because people whining and threatening to leave is business as usual for the EVE-ONLINE forums.
Remember the 50 billion people that were quitting due to ghost training change? Yeah, anyone notice that they are gone? Anyone? No one? K, guess we will carry on. |
Saibotek
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:48:00 -
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/me passes Judge Ment a Flame resistant suit....
here ya go dude |
Removal Tool
Reptilian Reality
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:48:00 -
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I think once the game becomes playable again , the pvp could be a lot more fun and interesting.
I don't see this as simplifying the game at all. But it's all conjecture until the bugs are fixed.
On another note, there's a woman on my couch that claims to be married to me. I better make sure nothing is missing.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 15/11/2008 00:49:03
Originally by: Judge Ment I am not whining - Just pointing out some resemblances. Of course SWG died because of in game mechanics *(and sure they made it easier for the new people to conquer) Now I'm not going to go off and say that EVE did the same thing. I'm just going to say that the more drastic changes eve does the more your going to see people leave the game!
ok, explain your "point" - how exactly is EVE being dumbed down or changed like SWG was for the NGE?
Originally by: Judge Ment FYI I already knew the pile of crap I was going to step in before I posted this
excellent, so you're just trolling/flamebaiting?
good job. |
Saibotek
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Removal Tool I think once the game becomes playable again , the pvp could be a lot more fun and interesting.
I don't see this as simplifying the game at all. But it's all conjecture until the bugs are fixed.
On another note, there's a woman on my couch that claims to be married to me. I better make sure nothing is missing.
I think i have the same problem, except shes yelling some thing about blah blah. /me checks to see if anything is missing also.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.15 01:36:00 -
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i SPENT 3 years training for small ships now. That and other stuff and BCs and ruisers whatevr. But my point stands, you can spend almost as much time on frigates as on cruisers. SO what is wrong with frigates getting a boost? |
Judge Ment
Zero Gravity Inc Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 01:53:00 -
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Nothing is wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinion, the world is round and EVE has major issues..
- Thank god I can still gate camp! |
Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.11.15 01:59:00 -
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I don't know I am seeing 4K less people logged on when I get home about 07:30 13K now was 17 sometime 20K
can't be good :(
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba I don't know I am seeing 4K less people logged on when I get home about 07:30 13K now was 17 sometime 20K
can't be good :(
maybe they all deleted their characters, like you did?
oh, wait... |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Judge Ment Nothing is wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinion, the world is round and EVE has major issues..
- Thank god I can still gate camp!
you still haven't explained how EVE has been dumbed down, like the NGE? |
Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Bohoba on 15/11/2008 02:03:35
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Bohoba I don't know I am seeing 4K less people logged on when I get home about 07:30 13K now was 17 sometime 20K
can't be good :(
maybe they all deleted their characters, like you did?
oh, wait...
lol hey I got bpos in the cooker :) had to stay
was a close call if one of the kids would have bumped my arm it would have been done sat there for 10 min with the mouse ove the terminate button ....
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:08:00 -
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as a person who quit SWG cause of the NGE, you have no idea what you're talking about
i said this before, but we're dead literally talking about erasing all skill points across the board and creating 4 classes only. and giving out titans as NPC quest items. to everyone.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Faife as a person who quit SWG cause of the NGE, you have no idea what you're talking about
i said this before, but we're dead literally talking about erasing all skill points across the board and creating 4 classes only. and giving out titans as NPC quest items. to everyone.
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i miss my smuggler
aww I didn't want to remeber that bull**** :( |
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 15/11/2008 02:12:40
Originally by: Judge Ment So Star Wars Galaxy died because the devs change the game mechanics to help the beginners out. I think something similar happening to EVE in away. So what your guess?
Just my opinion
BTW Tantrum Rise "wonderful name"
I have now played EVE for three years! Since 2005! but before that I have three years of SWG behind me, including the dreaded NGE! And I can honestly say you can even start to compare it!
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Judge Ment
Zero Gravity Inc Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Faife as a person who quit SWG cause of the NGE, you have no idea what you're talking about
i said this before, but we're dead literally talking about erasing all skill points across the board and creating 4 classes only. and giving out titans as NPC quest items. to everyone.
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i miss my smuggler
PLEASE READ! I think something similar happening to EVE in away.
Also there have been major overhaul to the combat system in EVE. And tbh I dont give a frank about SWG. One thing forsure I never played the game
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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Judge Ment So Star Wars Galaxy died because the devs change the game mechanics to help the beginners out. I think something similar happening to EVE in away. So what your guess?
Just my opinion
BTW Tantrum Rise "wonderful name"
I don't agree. Eve is old and it has peaked. Nothing they have done is a fatal blow to it or an 'NGE' move. You could argue they haven't done anything to keep people but anyone who leaves over this last nerf festival were looking for a reason to go anyway.
CCP does have a credibility problem though. From what I can tell, I won in this patch and all I can think of is, what's the catch? When is my nerf coming? |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.11.15 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 15/11/2008 02:34:31
Originally by: Judge Ment
Originally by: Faife as a person who quit SWG cause of the NGE, you have no idea what you're talking about
i said this before, but we're dead literally talking about erasing all skill points across the board and creating 4 classes only. and giving out titans as NPC quest items. to everyone.
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i miss my smuggler
PLEASE READ! I think something similar happening to EVE in away.
Also there have been major overhaul to the combat system in EVE. And tbh I dont give a frank about SWG. One thing forsure I never played the game
You know, for all the talk about risk vs reward, this proves that most people - prefer the easy mode! And when they get it harder - more difficult - as such removing the easy mode! They start to complain! Whine!
EVE - if anything - have not been dumbed down! It have been made more difficult fore those who had the "easy ride"! Things are now more balanced. As such fairer for all in EVE! And in that I guess, the risk vs reward for those adjusted have become little more difficult! But then, they are still in line with rest of EVEs classes! Not worse!
Calling it "Dumbing in down" is nothing more a whine about having their easy mode removed!
Also comparing it to SWG: It does not even get close!!!
SWG removed lots of things to make it easier! Take crafting for example! From being a depthfull profession, it was turned into a simplistic mechanism! ALso, by filling up the NPC sold/made loot, made crafting obsolete. Skills requiring a year of hard work, suddenly could be obtained overnight. Game control where changed into FPS mode! Attacks become standardized etc etc etc etc. So much more! But after three years away from that game I have thankfully forgotten it! Now, I just remember the good time I had in that game.
Anyway, EVE does not even get close to something resembling a NGE!
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Cailais
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.11.15 03:13:00 -
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Military experts are calling this an obvious troll.
C.
Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.[/quote |
axis minor
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Posted - 2008.11.15 03:26:00 -
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u guys whine like little kids stop its not anywhere like swg |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.15 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Judge Ment
One thing forsure I never played the game
perfect.
thanks for clearing up that a) you ARE an idiot, b) you have NO idea what you're talking about, and c) you're a pathetic troll. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
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Hebik Fane
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:47:00 -
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Was there for the NGE, this is not even remotely it |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:51:00 -
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i can haz ur stuff? |
Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bohoba
lol hey I got bpos in the cooker :) had to stay
was a close call if one of the kids would have bumped my arm it would have been done sat there for 10 min with the mouse ove the terminate button ....
pants on fire
Please go through with your idle threats next time
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