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Okura's
interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.23 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Okura''s on 23/11/2008 21:53:27
Smash The Supplier? It's more like 'Smash anyone stupid enough to accept this mission!'
I have recently accepted this mission, and started it with a Golem. It all starts out allright, with some frigs, Bs and a bunch of cruisers. Then things start to get nasty. Spawn after spawn after spawn comes in, and it made my Golem with perma X-l Booster and 4 racial hardeners have to warp out!
Second, third, fourth.........., and eighteenth try were all the same. Warp in, target Control Tower (mission objective), align to station, fire some faction cruises doing 1100 damage each, see your shield fade in under 30 seconds, warp out (hoping one of the elite frigs does not have you scrammed), and return to misison again. Eventually got the tower into hull, but I don't feel like going back in there. The DPS is heavily outbalanced, and the rewards aren't much higher then any other level 4 mission.
CCP, Fix this please.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.11.23 22:48:00 -
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This is a superb mission. Please don't nerf it. The rewards are nice for the effort.
Here's a tip: shoot the enemy ships first. Fit enough DPS to kill them quickly. Use something better than a cruise Golem. My T2 fitted sentry/rail Dominix tanks the whole thing just fine and kills them plenty fast.
If you want to speed it up, bring a wingman to do more DPS, not to fly around in an interceptor. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome. |
Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.23 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes This is a superb mission. Please don't nerf it. The rewards are nice for the effort.
Here's a tip: shoot the enemy ships first. Fit enough DPS to kill them quickly. Use something better than a cruise Golem. My T2 fitted sentry/rail Dominix tanks the whole thing just fine and kills them plenty fast.
If you want to speed it up, bring a wingman to do more DPS, not to fly around in an interceptor.
In quite a few missions when you have to destroy a particular objective you'll find that the objective is guarded, sometimes quite heavily - the idea being, that you should probably kill the guards before you try to kill the objective.
Diomedes is quite right, next time try to focus on knocking out the NPCs first - not every mission can be rushed.
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Okura's
interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.24 00:00:00 -
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I tried it in a Torp Golem, but tank didnt last. Now that I havce looted it, its nice:
Arbie heavy missile launcher over 20mill in salvage many many Meta 4 items over 20mill in tags
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Dread Doomfist
Minmatar nemo nobis impune lacessit
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Posted - 2008.11.24 08:22:00 -
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this is a fine mission....if you can't handle this go back to lvl 3 missions...i don't want to see peoples whining about every mission that needs, that you have to think a little bit and not to run afk...it's embarrassing that you can't do this mission in a golem....i can't fly a T2-BS or a normal BS but for me i don't need this ships for finishing every lvl 4 solo....
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Okura's
interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.24 08:38:00 -
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Embarrasing? Maxed shields skills, T2 Torps, T2 cruise and over 6mill in Missiles, maxed Capacitor skills. Is it me or could it have been my bad luck? And he, I did finish the mission in no time with an alt interceptor...
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Dread Doomfist
Minmatar nemo nobis impune lacessit
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Posted - 2008.11.24 08:56:00 -
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yeah...sorry...don't want to hurt you...for me it is a little bit embarrassing to fly a golem with that skillz...and cry about a lvl 4 mission....anyway...i think next time you don't try to kill the structure first and focus your fire more to the ships and kill the mission objective last...
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AMF2
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Posted - 2008.11.24 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: AMF2 on 24/11/2008 09:13:09 Why nerf it? Not like its the most OMG super hardest lvl 4 mission,the only lvl 4 mission that I would like to be changed is Buzz kill,anyway I say you just need a better tank than most lvl 4 mission,my navy mega can tank it whit 4 AH and a AN LAR.But I will never accept this mission again,not cause I lose standings to to a bunch religion fanatic gay catholics its cause it takes to muck time to finish in compared whit WC,The Assault or The Mordus Headhunters but thats just my impression
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Baldour Ngarr
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.24 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Okura's Embarrasing? Maxed shields skills, T2 Torps, T2 cruise and over 6mill in Missiles, maxed Capacitor skills.
Doubly embarassing, then. ________________________________________________
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Shaitan Katana
Caldari SkunkWorkX
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Posted - 2008.11.24 11:48:00 -
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Wow and I did it with just a Raven, fit cruises,dont aggro the rats, move away from the structure to 130 km, start shooting and orbiting at 130,keep blasting away at the tower and ignore the shipyards, they blow when the tower blows, kill the small rats that come to you with drones. ______________________________________________________________________________________________
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Echo Vector
Gallente The Wild Bunch
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Posted - 2008.11.24 12:49:00 -
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I do this in a Domi solo. Warp in, get aggro, turn around and start away from the blob, release the drones and stay just ahead of the nastiest BSes and lead the pack around the grid like a slow moving freight train while the drones knock the rats off one by one.
The mish is fine. The PAIN is the mish vultures that come stealing salvage like so many ****roaches........but that is solved by salvagers and tractor beams.......I love my droneboat!..........heeheehee.........
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Kask Aledrought
Gallente Forging Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.24 13:55:00 -
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I love this mission... it was the first lvl 4 mission I got the very first time I decided to take my shiny new BS out for her maiden voyage. Hell of a way to pop your cherry but the pain was defintally worth the rewards.
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Punctator
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Posted - 2008.11.24 13:55:00 -
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niece mission - where i can get it ? i am bored with easy l4 missions, nasty mission is what we all need.
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Okura's
interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.24 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 14:23:20 Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 14:22:52 Some people advised to focus on the BS/other ship before shooting the control tower. I think I forgot to mention in my desricption that I off course did, but that after a while it was not possible anymore: to much DPS from the rats...
The trick is to fit an AB, get distance, and start orbiting the control tower. Most rats wont hit you then. Furthermore I don't understand what comments you got on my skills? 'For me it is a little bit embarrassing to fly a golem with that skillz', whats there to improve?
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Stu Pendisdick
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.24 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Okura's Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 14:22:52 ............................I don't understand what comments you got on my skills? 'For me it is a little bit embarrassing to fly a golem with that skillz', whats there to improve?
My child,
"Skills" are like Diplomas. Just because you put in the time to get it doesn't mean for one fleeting second that you know how to APPLY it.
Meditate on that.............
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Okura's
interimo
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Posted - 2008.11.24 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 15:42:11 Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 15:41:14 Right, let me share my setup with you. I use the setup that many mission runners use:
4 Siege II, Tractor, 2 Salvager
2 Amp II, 2 Pithi B-type Small shield booster, Therm, Kin hardener, TP II
3 BCU II, Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs: T2 missile velocity (hydraulic bay), T1 Operational Solidifier
Alls neccesary skills at IV or V. Please do tell me how to make a better setup, I'm open for anything that beats this ships tank/dps combo...
Edit: My child? How old are you? I hope somehwere in your fifty's cause otherwise you would have had a child at age 14...
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Anax Walsinghami
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.24 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 24/11/2008 16:30:40 Edited by: Anax Walsinghami on 24/11/2008 16:29:28 I got the mission and was a little hesitant to try it after reading some of these posts. Granted I'm not a noob and with every missile improvement skill to 5, I ran the mission in a t2 fitted plain old cruise Raven. After warp in I motored away from the npc blob until I was over 70k distance and then opened up on the frig. Why? Because the frigs scram and web. The trick here is to maintain a good 60k from the battleships as that dampens the damage from their lasers to a very high degree. Use Paradise cruise as they do more damage than therm.
Second on list was to kill the cruisers. Oh and by the way, even with the missile nerf, at 60k the frigs were about 1 volly'd so were easy to kill. The ones that got to drone range, were quickly killed by my drones. So at no time was I ever webbed or scrammed. Cruisers took a couple of volly's along with the help of my drones. As new groups spawned, I always made sure I killed the frigs.
So eventually it got down to just the BS's. A couple of times some of the faster ones got within 50k of me and their damage to me really went up. I went thru 8 booster charges repping up my shields. Also there are a couple of BS's that nos, but since none of the BS's got withing nos range, I had no problem with them. As I got out further and further, I had to start going back toward the ships as they were going back to where they started. It was when I was slowing and turning that I received hits that stripped a quarter of my shields off. So be careful. Toward the end I was quite far from the last spawned ships so I just warped out and back and finished them off. Still had time to collect all that wonderful salvage and tags.
Next time I might look at fitting a drone augmenter on the Raven for some extra range for my drones. So with good skills you can solo the mission and still have time to collect the goodies from the wrecks.
Edit add: I had no AB fitted on the Raven.
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.24 20:12:00 -
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Not every mission is "Warp in. Fire at objective. Warp out." The person earlier in the thread mentioning Buzzkill as needing a nerf, wrong too. Sniper BS with a bit of speed to maintain distance utterly owns that mission. Don't even need a tank. Same with Smash the Supplier, you just have to think a bit rather than apply your standard tactics.
And if you're not wanting to do that, just turn it down next time you get it offered. |
FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.11.24 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Okura's Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 15:42:11 Edited by: Okura''s on 24/11/2008 15:41:14 Right, let me share my setup with you. I use the setup that many mission runners use:
4 Siege II, Tractor, 2 Salvager
2 Amp II, 2 Pithi B-type Small shield booster, Therm, Kin hardener, TP II
3 BCU II, Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs: T2 missile velocity (hydraulic bay), T1 Operational Solidifier
Perhaps fitting an EM hardener against Amarr rats would help? With proper hardeners, my Dominix and/or CNR sit in one spot and tanks it all - with just T2 tanking gear.
My Golem mid slots: 1x TP II, 2x Pithi B-type Small shield booster, 1x Shield Boost Amplifier II, Thermal Hardener II, EM hardener II, Invuln II
PS - Why not two missile range/velocity rigs? ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome. |
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