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meafy
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Posted - 2004.07.12 13:16:00 -
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The End, what i was trying to say was that we won't be blaming the corp Equlibria for the actions of one member (if that is the case which i don't know), But you are correct there are still people in EV could have done this.
But don't worry about us we are still in quite a good position so we won't be going anywhere soon. see you in space. (hopefully in a pod )
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meafy
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Posted - 2004.07.12 13:16:00 -
[122]
The End, what i was trying to say was that we won't be blaming the corp Equlibria for the actions of one member (if that is the case which i don't know), But you are correct there are still people in EV could have done this.
But don't worry about us we are still in quite a good position so we won't be going anywhere soon. see you in space. (hopefully in a pod )
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:36:00 -
[123]
Joshua calvert ripped you off
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:36:00 -
[124]
Joshua calvert ripped you off
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Algazara
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:38:00 -
[125]
Yarr.. I shall raise me offer to 10 gold coins to bring the scurvy dogs to justice !
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Algazara
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:38:00 -
[126]
Yarr.. I shall raise me offer to 10 gold coins to bring the scurvy dogs to justice !
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:45:00 -
[127]
Dreez, you are a spineless ****. Don't you ever talk about honour again.
Would be nice to see OC get robbed of their precious cruiser bpo's (which is all they can afford).
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:45:00 -
[128]
Dreez, you are a spineless ****. Don't you ever talk about honour again.
Would be nice to see OC get robbed of their precious cruiser bpo's (which is all they can afford).
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Ca0 Ca0
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:48:00 -
[129]
Thing that is funniest about reading this entire thread is recognizing all the names from the different corps that have been posting. In terms of Equilibria and Everlasting Vendetta, the Equilibria players consist of pretty much all the pilots that I've come across over the past 2.5 months in the Vale and Geminate that I consider respectable and honorable.
The Equilibria pilots are the ones who would actually put up a fight without resorting to lame tactics such as loading up every ship's mid slots with sensor dampeners, they would actually come out once they had near-even numbers, and the battles would be hard fought and hard won. Nowadays EV only sits in stations or at safespots til they have 2:1 advantage and 3/4 of them are target jamming or sensor dampening (no offense Darcon but u fall into the latter category). Not that there is anything wrong with that in terms of game mechanics, it is a valid tactic. But it is still awfully lame.
Now in terms of the corp theft COME ON PEOPLE . . . It is obviously the CEO who did it, think about how smoked from M3G4 was ebaying corp assets, think about so many of the corp thefts that have happened - it is almost ALWAYS the CEO that does it.
But if you want to blame the only honorable players I've ever seen in EVER (the Equilibria guys) I can't stop ya. But y'all (EV) are the most cowardly noobs I've ever come across, so I'll see you on the battlefield!!!
Cao
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Ca0 Ca0
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Posted - 2004.07.12 14:48:00 -
[130]
Thing that is funniest about reading this entire thread is recognizing all the names from the different corps that have been posting. In terms of Equilibria and Everlasting Vendetta, the Equilibria players consist of pretty much all the pilots that I've come across over the past 2.5 months in the Vale and Geminate that I consider respectable and honorable.
The Equilibria pilots are the ones who would actually put up a fight without resorting to lame tactics such as loading up every ship's mid slots with sensor dampeners, they would actually come out once they had near-even numbers, and the battles would be hard fought and hard won. Nowadays EV only sits in stations or at safespots til they have 2:1 advantage and 3/4 of them are target jamming or sensor dampening (no offense Darcon but u fall into the latter category). Not that there is anything wrong with that in terms of game mechanics, it is a valid tactic. But it is still awfully lame.
Now in terms of the corp theft COME ON PEOPLE . . . It is obviously the CEO who did it, think about how smoked from M3G4 was ebaying corp assets, think about so many of the corp thefts that have happened - it is almost ALWAYS the CEO that does it.
But if you want to blame the only honorable players I've ever seen in EVER (the Equilibria guys) I can't stop ya. But y'all (EV) are the most cowardly noobs I've ever come across, so I'll see you on the battlefield!!!
Cao
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Outback
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Posted - 2004.07.12 15:25:00 -
[131]
In the end EV its a game. you gave rights to someone who didnt deserve them in the first place. Grow up and get over it. If you really feel that disapointed think about this. All those "thousands" of hours you spent online could have been spent with your family, fixing the house up, getting a job etc etc. Now you should feel bad.
As a side note I recently got ripped off by the Character EVILCAV. he gave me his character and said he sent an email to CCP/EULA and handed the rights over to me. 9 months later i get a message saying my character is banned that the original owner wanted it back and never sent a message to CCP/EULA so that leave me without my character i invested that time in. Oh friggen well! Its a game! So i get on my main and hunt evilcav down and kill kill kill :)
Go F--k Yourself ...**** Cheney (thats to EVILCAV
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Outback
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Posted - 2004.07.12 15:25:00 -
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In the end EV its a game. you gave rights to someone who didnt deserve them in the first place. Grow up and get over it. If you really feel that disapointed think about this. All those "thousands" of hours you spent online could have been spent with your family, fixing the house up, getting a job etc etc. Now you should feel bad.
As a side note I recently got ripped off by the Character EVILCAV. he gave me his character and said he sent an email to CCP/EULA and handed the rights over to me. 9 months later i get a message saying my character is banned that the original owner wanted it back and never sent a message to CCP/EULA so that leave me without my character i invested that time in. Oh friggen well! Its a game! So i get on my main and hunt evilcav down and kill kill kill :)
Go F--k Yourself ...**** Cheney (thats to EVILCAV
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 15:45:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/07/2004 15:46:26
Originally by: The Ratfink Joshua calvert ripped you off
Which is slightly more believable than the people who are actually being accused, imo.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 15:45:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/07/2004 15:46:26
Originally by: The Ratfink Joshua calvert ripped you off
Which is slightly more believable than the people who are actually being accused, imo.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
kunggggg
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:00:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/07/2004 15:46:26
Originally by: The Ratfink Joshua calvert ripped you off
Which is slightly more believable than the people who are actually being accused, imo.
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kunggggg
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/07/2004 15:46:26
Originally by: The Ratfink Joshua calvert ripped you off
Which is slightly more believable than the people who are actually being accused, imo.
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:21:00 -
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If I were the leader of EV I would honestly put a vote to my corporation: "Would you be willing to cancel your account to send a message to CCP that we deserve accountability tools to track thieves?" Two or three hundred cancellations would send a *real* message to CCP. This game isn't overflowing with players (to say the least) and perhaps the correct people at CCP would wake up and realize that players simply won't put up with this nonsense.
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:21:00 -
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If I were the leader of EV I would honestly put a vote to my corporation: "Would you be willing to cancel your account to send a message to CCP that we deserve accountability tools to track thieves?" Two or three hundred cancellations would send a *real* message to CCP. This game isn't overflowing with players (to say the least) and perhaps the correct people at CCP would wake up and realize that players simply won't put up with this nonsense.
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Edward Vendetta
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:34:00 -
[139]
Isn't there an old saying first one to point the finger is the guilty party? First, I post this on my own accord and not as an aquisation just as a collection of facts.
There were 6 people who had director access on the date that it was stolen.
N'fran Talitha Synapse Xaar Tamish myself
now it is impossible to determine which of these six is the guilty one because in reality all had an equal chance in the theft, so that only leaves us to look at the facts.
Collection of facts, as stated by GM and own observations: 1. Stolen on June 14th 20:52 game time 2. There was a character in station waiting to remove them the second they kicked out of research. 3. After the theft the blueprint "quickly changed hands several times" until it ended up researching again. 4. The wallet was untouched. Last BP in research was untouched. 5. 10 days later the exodus of equilibria started with synapse being the first one to leave. 6. Tamish and Xaar state they are waiting to see the results of the blueprints before they leave to join synapse. But later decide to leave early. Cooincidentally they leave after we secure our last blueprint in talitha's personal hangar. 7. Talitha and Edward find characters they've never heard of in the corp with HC hangar access. Oddly one character was accepted into the corp on June 11th, 3 days prior to the theft. Unfortunately character was removed during weekly cleaning before theft discovered so audits unable to tell who accepted this character into the corp (petition pending as real life companys would keep records of this even after termination of an employee)
Now again no alligations here just a collection of facts. Now lets look at the 6 people involved.
N'fran - American, was on simbatical. Decided to take some time off from the game as the stress levels of being CEO made the game temporarily unfun.
Talitha - American, Acting CEO, spending most waking hours working hard to keep the corp moving forward.
Edward - American, Talitha's assistant, on the HC by request to help talitha. Spending every free momment to help the corp.
Tamish - Euro, Foreign affairs, butting heads with edward and talitha as they want to move the corp in different directions
Synapse - Euro, Fleet commander, Finds EV to be unfun after his elite falcon wing is disbanded and melded into one giant military wing.
Xaar - Euro, Personnel manager, stuck in the middle between the euro's and americans. Eventually decides to join his euro friends.
These are all true facts and still no acusations have been made and I will not make any. The only reason I post this is because my integrity has been assulted on here and I am stating facts so people can come to their own conclusions. In reality yes I could have stolen these just as much as any of the other 5. However, heres some more interesting facts I have given N'fran access to my account to check for himself, plus screen shots of my bank statements and paypal statements to see no recent paypal activity. I created the corp, I didn't steal them during my first retirement and there has been nothing to suggest I would do it now, espically with my current level of devotion to the membership.
In reality we will never know who did it. I personally have an idea, and no its not you Tamish even though you were quick to acuse me. Personally I want this matter to just drop so we can continue to move on and progress in the game. I know this will spur even more controversy and I wont be responding to it. This was just a collection of the facts for the community to see.
Edward Vendetta, Current HC member of EV Retired CEO of EV as former name of Civil Deity |
Edward Vendetta
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:34:00 -
[140]
Isn't there an old saying first one to point the finger is the guilty party? First, I post this on my own accord and not as an aquisation just as a collection of facts.
There were 6 people who had director access on the date that it was stolen.
N'fran Talitha Synapse Xaar Tamish myself
now it is impossible to determine which of these six is the guilty one because in reality all had an equal chance in the theft, so that only leaves us to look at the facts.
Collection of facts, as stated by GM and own observations: 1. Stolen on June 14th 20:52 game time 2. There was a character in station waiting to remove them the second they kicked out of research. 3. After the theft the blueprint "quickly changed hands several times" until it ended up researching again. 4. The wallet was untouched. Last BP in research was untouched. 5. 10 days later the exodus of equilibria started with synapse being the first one to leave. 6. Tamish and Xaar state they are waiting to see the results of the blueprints before they leave to join synapse. But later decide to leave early. Cooincidentally they leave after we secure our last blueprint in talitha's personal hangar. 7. Talitha and Edward find characters they've never heard of in the corp with HC hangar access. Oddly one character was accepted into the corp on June 11th, 3 days prior to the theft. Unfortunately character was removed during weekly cleaning before theft discovered so audits unable to tell who accepted this character into the corp (petition pending as real life companys would keep records of this even after termination of an employee)
Now again no alligations here just a collection of facts. Now lets look at the 6 people involved.
N'fran - American, was on simbatical. Decided to take some time off from the game as the stress levels of being CEO made the game temporarily unfun.
Talitha - American, Acting CEO, spending most waking hours working hard to keep the corp moving forward.
Edward - American, Talitha's assistant, on the HC by request to help talitha. Spending every free momment to help the corp.
Tamish - Euro, Foreign affairs, butting heads with edward and talitha as they want to move the corp in different directions
Synapse - Euro, Fleet commander, Finds EV to be unfun after his elite falcon wing is disbanded and melded into one giant military wing.
Xaar - Euro, Personnel manager, stuck in the middle between the euro's and americans. Eventually decides to join his euro friends.
These are all true facts and still no acusations have been made and I will not make any. The only reason I post this is because my integrity has been assulted on here and I am stating facts so people can come to their own conclusions. In reality yes I could have stolen these just as much as any of the other 5. However, heres some more interesting facts I have given N'fran access to my account to check for himself, plus screen shots of my bank statements and paypal statements to see no recent paypal activity. I created the corp, I didn't steal them during my first retirement and there has been nothing to suggest I would do it now, espically with my current level of devotion to the membership.
In reality we will never know who did it. I personally have an idea, and no its not you Tamish even though you were quick to acuse me. Personally I want this matter to just drop so we can continue to move on and progress in the game. I know this will spur even more controversy and I wont be responding to it. This was just a collection of the facts for the community to see.
Edward Vendetta, Current HC member of EV Retired CEO of EV as former name of Civil Deity |
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:36:00 -
[141]
I think you'll find Darcon made the first accusation, Edward.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:36:00 -
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I think you'll find Darcon made the first accusation, Edward.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:40:00 -
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Quote: Oddly one character was accepted into the corp on June 11th, 3 days prior to the theft. Unfortunately character was removed during weekly cleaning before theft discovered so audits unable to tell who accepted this character into the corp (petition pending as real life companys would keep records of this even after termination of an employee)
And since when has EV undertaken a weekly roster cleaning?
EV's size is governed by the number of inactive players, to be honest. It is part of the reason EV's prominence has declined; only the pvp guys had any kind of dedication to the corp but, eventually, grew disillusioned with the efforts of other wings.
To state a mysterious number of new members were added and removed within a week?
Highly debatable, Edward.
I wonder how long EV will last in UNICOR? I'm already hearing unhappy rumblings at your demanding and arrogant tone when talking to other members.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:40:00 -
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Quote: Oddly one character was accepted into the corp on June 11th, 3 days prior to the theft. Unfortunately character was removed during weekly cleaning before theft discovered so audits unable to tell who accepted this character into the corp (petition pending as real life companys would keep records of this even after termination of an employee)
And since when has EV undertaken a weekly roster cleaning?
EV's size is governed by the number of inactive players, to be honest. It is part of the reason EV's prominence has declined; only the pvp guys had any kind of dedication to the corp but, eventually, grew disillusioned with the efforts of other wings.
To state a mysterious number of new members were added and removed within a week?
Highly debatable, Edward.
I wonder how long EV will last in UNICOR? I'm already hearing unhappy rumblings at your demanding and arrogant tone when talking to other members.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:41:00 -
[145]
LOL so basically what you are saying is that europeans are dirty corp thiefs! I get it! Lets all point the finger at the Europeans!
In reality Edward you could have been using the breakoff of your major pvp faction as an excuse to steal them yourself and blame it on the people departing. But your efforts are lumping all Europeans under the name of "thief" is admirable.
Shia
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:41:00 -
[146]
LOL so basically what you are saying is that europeans are dirty corp thiefs! I get it! Lets all point the finger at the Europeans!
In reality Edward you could have been using the breakoff of your major pvp faction as an excuse to steal them yourself and blame it on the people departing. But your efforts are lumping all Europeans under the name of "thief" is admirable.
Shia
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Bryionak Crinanass
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:53:00 -
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That is exactly what he is saying Shia, you read so well.
And it was the duty of the HC personnel manager to perform weekly cleanup of the roster. I believe that was Xaar at the time.
Personally I wish Darcon hadn't phrased his post the way he did. I wish meafy hadn't posted at all. N'Fran should be the only one posting. From what I know of the people that could have done it, I find it really hard to believe any of them did it. I have some thoughts, but I will not be so foolish as to post them here.
I am sorry about the ill will that has blossomed between some EV members and some members of Equilibria. The accusations should stop now, at least until there is real evidence. And when there is, that should be handled in another channle besides this one. This is just retarded.
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Bryionak Crinanass
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:53:00 -
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That is exactly what he is saying Shia, you read so well.
And it was the duty of the HC personnel manager to perform weekly cleanup of the roster. I believe that was Xaar at the time.
Personally I wish Darcon hadn't phrased his post the way he did. I wish meafy hadn't posted at all. N'Fran should be the only one posting. From what I know of the people that could have done it, I find it really hard to believe any of them did it. I have some thoughts, but I will not be so foolish as to post them here.
I am sorry about the ill will that has blossomed between some EV members and some members of Equilibria. The accusations should stop now, at least until there is real evidence. And when there is, that should be handled in another channle besides this one. This is just retarded.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:53:00 -
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That really sucks. I was in EVER from 11. May - 7. July. I never heard of anything missing in the time being in that corp.
Edward, we had some problems and long discussions in corp chat. I left cuz my old corp called and I felt that I didn¦t belong into EVER.
CCP, thanks for making the life of corp thiefs better than they already r. ---------------------------------------------
Eve is not game, it¦s a way of life! |
Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.07.12 16:53:00 -
[150]
That really sucks. I was in EVER from 11. May - 7. July. I never heard of anything missing in the time being in that corp.
Edward, we had some problems and long discussions in corp chat. I left cuz my old corp called and I felt that I didn¦t belong into EVER.
CCP, thanks for making the life of corp thiefs better than they already r. ---------------------------------------------
Eve is not game, it¦s a way of life! |
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