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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 18:54:00 -
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PREFACE
A long time ago, in late 05 when I was first getting into piracy, I wrote a guide that has since become one of the staple piracy guides on the sticky.
(A side note: this was on another character, who I sold for ISK [which I gave to in-game friends] when I thought I was quiting the game for good. The player who bought my character seems to be taking credit for my hard work now, and I cant go back and delete my old post in favor of this one *sigh*. Anyways: )
Since then, I've learned much about the way the game is played and how to pirate. I feel I owe it to the community to contribute what I've learned back to the noobies of today, in the hope that they might take to piracy and roam the seas of low sec like I did then, and still do now.
Piracy is the most fun you can have in EVE in my opinion, and something many new players seem attracted to. I myself played many long hours of mind numbing mission running before I attempted my first PvP combat. I died quickly, and could not find any guides that provided the information I needed to survive. So I set about learning to pirate properly all by myself, armed with nothing but a stack of T1 frigates and a desire to yar.
Now, many years and four corporations latter, I am finally confident enough to pass my knowledge on.
EVE is a deep and complex game, and nowhere is this complexity more obvious than in PvP. In every fight, the myriad of factors and variables that can effect the outcome can be overwhelming in number, and thats even supposing you can find someone to fight in the first place. Life as a pirate, or any PvPer, can sometimes be frustrating, and it is rarely easy. It can take months to become competent at PvP, and years to become skilled.
Don't be discouraged, however: the path of the PvPer is an enjoyable one. The rewards of EVE PvP are greater in terms of satisfaction, adrenaline, and just plain fun than any other computer game I have personally ever played. The adrenaline rush you receive every time you jump into combat as a new PvPer (and which I still experience when I'm in a particularly dangerous situation) can be almost unreal.
This guide is intended to thoroughly fill you in on the basics you need to pirate, and get you up and running with the minimum of hassle. Provided in this first draft is everything you need to know to get out and yar, including settings for your UI, scanning skills, basic tactics, advice, and fittings and tactics for T1 frigates (and before you ask, YES they are effective pirate ships, even solo, and NO you don't need high skill points! Trust me!)
Further versions will include everything you see in the index. New players should read each one of the linked guides IN ORDER (with the exception of the last one, ôwhat ship to train forö, which is optional) before heading out to pirate.
And without further ado, I present,
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 18:55:00 -
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THE BEGInNERS GUIDE TO PIRACY, VERSION 2.0
Reserved. ____
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 18:56:00 -
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reserved ____
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:06:00 -
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reserved I don't want to set the world on fire |
Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:26:00 -
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Geez Louise! :D Fantastic posts mate. Havent even had a chance to read them fully, but lots of material, thats a certainty!
You Sir, get a tip from my pirate hat
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Geez Louise! :D Fantastic posts mate. Havent even had a chance to read them fully, but lots of material, thats a certainty!
You Sir, get a tip from my pirate hat
Thank you. You have no idea how much work went into this, and you're the first person to say anything nice. =P I dont know why I bother with the EVE-O forums sometimes. ____
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:50:00 -
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Seems good, but you should just make it into a .PDF and put it on eve-files. :P
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex Seems good, but you should just make it into a .PDF and put it on eve-files. :P
I will when its done. ____
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Electra Deis
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:53:00 -
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Ignore the naysayers....it's C&P, home to all the tards that don't like CAOD after all. Awesome work, great material. Keep it up
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Electra Deis Ignore the naysayers....it's C&P, home to all the tards that don't like CAOD after all. Awesome work, great material. Keep it up
Thank you =) ____
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.11.29 20:10:00 -
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Nice job Skira. But really, I think it would have been easier to just make a PDF and keep it updated on eve-files or something. People are going to come along and spam your subsection threads just to mess with them.
And don't pay any attention to the noobs in here. All the guys who know what they're doing recognize the work. Keep it up.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Nice job Skira. But really, I think it would have been easier to just make a PDF and keep it updated on eve-files or something. People are going to come along and spam your subsection threads just to mess with them.
And don't pay any attention to the noobs in here. All the guys who know what they're doing recognize the work. Keep it up.
Short answer: thats what I'm doing right now, but I was stupid and didn't bother to figure out how to encode PDF before posting.
Thanks though. The subsections will be deleted/locked when I get my PDF done
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:02:00 -
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Nice post it so seldom you see anything worth taking the time to read here.
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Pax Mentor
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:16:00 -
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What i need is the BGP in pdf format... plz ...
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Haitchi Allamut
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Haitchi Allamut on 29/11/2008 22:19:55 First constructive thing I've seen in ages in C&P. Good job mate.
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Lady Destruction
Club Bear
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:28:00 -
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Although there's nothing new for me already, i certainly needed this guide when i first started, though i must say ur previous one was very helpfull too. Thanks for the work you've put into making eve a better place for all of us.
Also,
/sticky pls
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pax Mentor What i need is the BGP in pdf format... plz ...
Working on it =) ____
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:02:00 -
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Fixed. You all happy now? Now can we get to discussing the guide instead of complaining about my format? ____
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Avalaren
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:04:00 -
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Look forward to the full guide. its already taught me a bit, and I pirate "for a living" already.
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Lieff
Over Dosed
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Posted - 2008.11.30 05:11:00 -
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nice work~ ~ Woke up, got myself a gun. |
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 05:29:00 -
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Fair one.
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Ferenc Puskas
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.11.30 11:38:00 -
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bump! for someone who's trying to bring back Piracy >.<
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Rifter Drifter
Minmatar You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.11.30 11:39:00 -
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Nice Work Mate, sent copies to a lot of people thinking of coming to EvE
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Fractured Core
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Posted - 2008.11.30 13:58:00 -
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Hooray for PDF file.
Shoot me an EVEmail if you're pirating in Gallente space. ~-~-~-~-~ -[WillChat4ISK]- I can be the handsome Amarr space captain. You can be the helpless Minmatar slave girl. |
Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.30 14:44:00 -
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Pirates....better to carebear! A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. |
Chicken Wing
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Posted - 2008.11.30 16:47:00 -
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I can't seem to see it...
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Eschiava Q
Minmatar Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.11.30 17:09:00 -
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When I click on the pdf link in the original post, I am not able to open the pdf file.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chicken Wing I can't seem to see it...
EVE Files is apparently down. _
Recruiting
Noobie Piracy Guide |
Shosoru
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.30 19:32:00 -
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Nice work.
------------------------------ Q: what happens when an EVE player quits EVE to play WOW A: the Average IQ of both goes up |
Beardponderer
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:43:00 -
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Good work, first decent post in C&P in a while.
Needs sticky
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.01 03:40:00 -
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An excellent guide, one to which our pirate forums will soon be linking. In place after place your advice reflects a comprehensive knowledge and experience of a pirate's "real life."
In view of this general excellence, it was a bit disconcerting to get to your ship recommendations. My T1 frigate piracy was done in an Incursus, where I never lost to a Tristan, and frequently beat Rifters. My conclusion was that you did your T1 frigate combat in some other race's ships, and are basing your comments regarding the Incursus and Tristan on something other than actual experience.
Originally by: http://eve-pirate.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-year-may-bring-forth.html In an Incursus have a kill-loss record against other low-tech frigates of 70-4. I'm 10-0 against rookie ships and shuttles, 28-0 vs. destroyers, 10-1 vs. mining and industrial ships, and 22-12 against low-tech cruisers. Ships I've not fared so well against include battlecruisers (2-4), an interceptor (0-1), stealth bombers (0-3), and battleships (0-2). Overall I'm 142-27 in an Incursus; 87 of those kills I followed up by also killing the poor pilot's capsule.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.01 07:34:00 -
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Pretty good work mate
I used to enjoy writing guides myself, until I realised that opening an offshot Academy corp from the main one and physically helping to train young and new pirates was even more effective.
Nicely layed out, I like it!
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
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Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.12.01 14:06:00 -
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I was all ready to hate this guide before I read it, but it's actually quite good. something I could have done with when starting out, I've had to learn it all the hard way.
I think for it to be the complete guide it could do with some more in depth info on group piracy and gate camping (the real cash cow of piracy) in particular. - Neo-Spartans Recruiting
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Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.12.01 16:04:00 -
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Sweet! A piracy guide!
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Verone Pretty good work mate
I used to enjoy writing guides myself, until I realised that opening an offshot Academy corp from the main one and physically helping to train young and new pirates was even more effective.
Nicely layed out, I like it!
The ultimate compliment.
Well, see, I do both. I'm running a training corp and I wrote a guide. But thank you, hearing from you means alot. _
Recruiting
Noobie Piracy Guide |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Jolo An excellent guide, one to which our pirate forums will soon be linking. In place after place your advice reflects a comprehensive knowledge and experience of a pirate's "real life."
In view of this general excellence, it was a bit disconcerting to get to your ship recommendations. My T1 frigate piracy was done in an Incursus, where I never lost to a Tristan, and frequently beat Rifters. My conclusion was that you did your T1 frigate combat in some other race's ships, and are basing your comments regarding the Incursus and Tristan on something other than actual experience.
Originally by: http://eve-pirate.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-year-may-bring-forth.html In an Incursus have a kill-loss record against other low-tech frigates of 70-4. I'm 10-0 against rookie ships and shuttles, 28-0 vs. destroyers, 10-1 vs. mining and industrial ships, and 22-12 against low-tech cruisers. Ships I've not fared so well against include battlecruisers (2-4), an interceptor (0-1), stealth bombers (0-3), and battleships (0-2). Overall I'm 142-27 in an Incursus; 87 of those kills I followed up by also killing the poor pilot's capsule.
I've heard many good things abou the incursus, but I've never seen it live up to its reputation. How did you fit it, firstly, and what were your tactics with it?
I've killed somewhere in the range of 40 incursi in my rifter, and never lost to one in a one on one situation. Many of my corp mates have tried and failed to pirate solo in one sucesfuly, and even I have tried it out several different times (with different configurations).
So do tell, how? _
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 16:37:00 -
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HOW DOES ONE SHOT NERFED-WEB? ------------------ Recruiting..
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Faekurias HOW DOES ONE SHOT NERFED-WEB?
Uhm... you turn it on? _
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Cyb3r Thr3at
Gallente Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.02 09:42:00 -
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Good stuff!
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JienNuRen
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Posted - 2008.12.02 10:15:00 -
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i did convo you yesterday to give you personal kudos for this splendid guide.
i wanted to post again in here as i also am not that content with your decisions about the shiptypes... (btw are there in any order like harbinger on 4th place of bc ???) and wtf is the prophecy at all doing in that guide... ???
and yea... incursus > tristan in any way
another thing u mentioned is like piracy is just happening in 0.4 and below, what i think is not true at all, maybe u should also point out highsec piracy a bit, as it is a great way to get things done in the beginning without risking sec hit. ofc many ppl will argue that canflipping and wardecks are not piracy, but well its up to definition again, and i think it perfectly fits into a pirates life, sometimes even more then some stuff you do in lolsec. (in other words, just becouse some1 doesent like it doesent mean that its not viable)
ofc its up to you, but i think it will widen the guide and add another flavor to it.
anyways i look forward to see the guide grow and being uptdated. back when i was a new player i would have given my right hand for something like this...
jien
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.02 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/12/2008 11:34:35 A few comments:
1) 7.5km vs 24km point: despite all the drawbacks of the 24km point, you really need it. Especially if you insist on going with an AB fit, the short-range point just gives your target too much time to warp out. With a 24km (overloaded to 30km), warping at zero to the belt will usually put the target in range for an immediate tackle. On the other hand, with a 7.5km, the target will usually be out of range, forcing you to hope they react slow enough for you to get into range. It's even worse with the latest agility boost, as now you have even less time before even an un-aligned target can escape. You really don't have a choice here, find a way to run the 24km point no matter how hard it is.
2) I don't like the emphasis on T1 frigates. Really, people should be using cruisers or AFs at minimum, frigates just an easy way to end up frustrated and dead very often. While you might get lucky and score kills against clueless carebears, any half-decent PvP opponent will shred them in seconds. More importantly, their poor dps means they're going to be sitting vulnerable in a belt for a LONG time to take down anything bigger than another frigate, which means a huge risk of backup and/or another pirate coming in and killing them. If people need experience, they should practice on SiSi and then buy good ships on TQ. Dying instantly to a flight of Warrior IIs doesn't teach anything, and it definitely isn't fun.
3) You shouldn't dismiss scan probes. My covops alt has a scan time of 25 seconds (soon to be down below 20 seconds), which means within 30 seconds of dropping a probe, I can be in your safespot and going for tackle. While covops alts may be rare, ALWAYS watch for probes on scan (you'll need to un-check "use overview settings"), and stay aligned in your safespot. Aligning to a station works best, as you can just dock and wait the 15 minutes with near-zero risk.
4) An income source that should be mentioned: exploration. Best done with a covops to find the sites, but it can pay off nicely. 30-50 mil per radar site is common, and the payoff from a good complex can easily get into the hundreds of millions. Just don't try and compete for mine, as it's much faster to scan down your ship, kill you, and finish up the site than to find the deadspace myself.
5) I disagree with some of your training suggestions:
- The Hawk is a trash ship, and should never be flown (you have it listed as "good for gangs"). Same with the Prophecy and Cyclone.
- The two-mid AFs are pretty underwhelming. While they might do the job, the Harpy/Ishkur/Jaguar are clearly the best, with the others far behind.
- The Drake should be listed as a good pirate ship, not just a gang ship. Properly fitted (that is, buffer tank + 3x damage mods + MWD/point), it's a good solo ship.
- Combat recons should not be listed. The slight dps increase does not make up for the loss of the covert ops cloak, a priceless module for piracy.
- Battleships should not be listed outside of gangs anymore, except for the Dominx. In the current metagame, a solo battleship is just too vulnerable to too many things. Poor speed and agility will cost you targets and get you killed if things go badly, while poor tracking along with nerfed webs leave you extremely vulnerable to being tackled by smaller ships and pinned down for the gank blob to arrive and kill you.
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.02 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Skira Ranos I've heard many good things abou the incursus, but I've never seen it live up to its reputation. How did you fit it, firstly, and what were your tactics with it?
Ka Jolo's PvP Incursus Guide
Light ion blasters, MAPC, 200mm plate. Set default orbit to 500m, orbit and shoot. Against Rifters, the key is to get in close; if the Rifter pilot succeeds in keeping out of blaster range, it's all over for the Incursus. I've had fights with Rifters where they knocked me deep into armor while I was just trying to get in close enough for blasters--but then once I did get within blaster range, I'd kill them before they could finish me off.
I'm not saying that, all else being equal, an Incursus is better than a Rifter; it even has problems killing Punishers (thank goodness it can usually get away). But it's hands-down better than a Tristan, and belongs with the Rifter and Punisher in the top three T1 frigates.
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.02 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin I don't like the emphasis on T1 frigates. Really, people should be using cruisers or AFs at minimum, frigates just an easy way to end up frustrated and dead very often. While you might get lucky and score kills against clueless carebears, any half-decent PvP opponent will shred them in seconds.
This is a Beginner's guide to piracy, see, and a lot of people that don't have the skillpoints to even get into cruisers or AFs do manage to fly T1 frigates. Go figure. Plus, many a pirate, after killing numerous cruisers with a T1 frigate, decides not to get into a cruiser himself until he can fly one better than the bozos he killed.
But not to worry; most pirates of my acquaintance do end up moving on to cruisers and AFs--and beyond!
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Umek
Minmatar Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.12.02 12:37:00 -
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Yarr Sir!
Excellent guide, highly recommended to any would-be piwats out there.
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Kazang
Gallente Arbitrary Freedom
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Posted - 2008.12.02 13:52:00 -
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Very nice guide mate.
Kazang
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 02/12/2008 20:06:22
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/12/2008 11:34:35 A few comments:
Blahblahblahblahblah
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You're wrong. On all points. Except that battleships shouldn't solo, and possibly that exploration is an income method (I can't mention it because I don't know a thing about it, i don't NPC at all.)
You are ESPECIALY wrong about frigates. This opinion has always been held by the idiotic and the risk averse, and has always been wrong, but it is especially wrong post quantum rise. We have killed, in the last few days, in ALL t1 frigate gangs:
An Arbitraitor* (solo) A navy osprey (2 frigates) A rupture (3 frigates) A blackbird and a ferox (5 frigates) A blackbird and caracal (5 frigates) A blackbird (4 frigates) A caracal (solo) And a Drake (5 frigates)
Of all of these kills, only the arbitraitor was npc fit.
So uhm, you're wrong. I'm not going to waste time picking apart the rest of your claims, and i suspect my time will be wasted even on this one. People are stupid and dogmatic about their opinions in this game despite overwhelming evidence, so I won't try. _
Recruiting
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 02/12/2008 20:27:23
Originally by: Ka Jolo
Originally by: Skira Ranos I've heard many good things abou the incursus, but I've never seen it live up to its reputation. How did you fit it, firstly, and what were your tactics with it?
Ka Jolo's PvP Incursus Guide
Light ion blasters, MAPC, 200mm plate. Set default orbit to 500m, orbit and shoot. Against Rifters, the key is to get in close; if the Rifter pilot succeeds in keeping out of blaster range, it's all over for the Incursus. I've had fights with Rifters where they knocked me deep into armor while I was just trying to get in close enough for blasters--but then once I did get within blaster range, I'd kill them before they could finish me off.
I'm not saying that, all else being equal, an Incursus is better than a Rifter; it even has problems killing Punishers (thank goodness it can usually get away). But it's hands-down better than a Tristan, and belongs with the Rifter and Punisher in the top three T1 frigates.
Good guide, and I might consider adding that to mine. But I do take issue with the statment that an armor rep is useless, as I've had many many fights (in the last week alone) where the armor rep kept me alive while I fought, or while my gang took someone out. Just last night, i was fighting a caracal that would have killed me without my armor rep. This is a frequent occurance. My low ranking of the incursus is not so much related to its ability to kill other frigates (though I am speculative of that, ESPECAILY post QR where MWDs are deactivated by scramblers, making it near impossible to keep on top of another frigate that has AB). It is more doubt in it's ability to take on cruisers and larger, which are a big stable of pirate diets (especially, like I said, post QR, with the web nerf).
Also you have obviously not fought any of the cruiser sited in your guide post QR, as none of them (save the small blaster rax) can hit you with guns, and medium drones now track like medium turrets and are similarly harmless. _
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.12.02 20:59:00 -
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Urdoinitwrite!
Nice job, excellent read.
AK Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking.
Ethics, Honor and Respect. Without the first two, you can't buy the last one...
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.02 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/12/2008 21:25:03
Originally by: Skira Ranos So uhm, you're wrong. I'm not going to waste time picking apart the rest of your claims, and i suspect my time will be wasted even on this one. People are stupid and dogmatic about their opinions in this game despite overwhelming evidence, so I won't try.
Congratulations. In all but two of those fights, you had a numbers advantage, and one of the solo kills was NPC fit. Obviously if you bring enough frigates you can kill stuff, but:
1) A proper mix of ships (possibly including a frigate as a tackler) will give you much better results. How about instead of 3x frigates you bring a frigate, a Caracal, and a Blackbird?
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2) The subject here is a beginner's guide to piracy, not "you've joined a pirate corp, now what?". Your average beginner pirate is not going to have lots of pirate friends to fly with.
Like it or not, the only thing a newbie in a solo frigate is going to find is endless frustration and a very bad impression of piracy. If I'd started off in a frigate, I probably would have gone right back to missioning after losing a ton of ships and scoring few kills. On the other hand, by starting in a cruiser, I had enough firepower to do a reasonable "gank and GTFO" against a lot of targets.
And yes, it's more expensive, that's why I suggested practice on SiSi. It won't teach you everything, but you'll at least know how to fly your ship properly. By the time a new player has enough skills to stand a decent chance in PvP, they can fly a decently fitted cruiser, and probably have the level 3 missions to support it.
As for your dismissal of the other points, I guess you have the right to do that, but all of those are true and learned the hard way, through long experience. You're not helping anyone by leaving out useful information just because you disagree about T1 frigates. -----------
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.03 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/12/2008 21:25:03
1) A proper mix of ships (possibly including a frigate as a tackler) will give you much better results. How about instead of 3x frigates you bring a frigate, a Caracal, and a Blackbird?
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2) The subject here is a beginner's guide to piracy, not "you've joined a pirate corp, now what?". Your average beginner pirate is not going to have lots of pirate friends to fly with.
Like it or not, the only thing a newbie in a solo frigate is going to find is endless frustration and a very bad impression of piracy. If I'd started off in a frigate, I probably would have gone right back to missioning after losing a ton of ships and scoring few kills. On the other hand, by starting in a cruiser, I had enough firepower to do a reasonable "gank and GTFO" against a lot of targets.
And yes, it's more expensive, that's why I suggested practice on SiSi. It won't teach you everything, but you'll at least know how to fly your ship properly. By the time a new player has enough skills to stand a decent chance in PvP, they can fly a decently fitted cruiser, and probably have the level 3 missions to support it.
As for your dismissal of the other points, I guess you have the right to do that, but all of those are true and learned the hard way, through long experience. You're not helping anyone by leaving out useful information just because you disagree about T1 frigates.
Sorry but you're still wrong.
Let me clarify: I DID START OFF IN A FRIGATE. SOLO.
I learned how to pirate in a T1 Frigate, all by myself. Its not only possible, its effective. I've taken out more cruisers, frigates, destroyers, and ever battlecruisers and a few t2 ships than I can count solo in a Rifter.
As for our fights: Yes, we had advantages in most of those situations. As a PvPer, half the fight is getting the advantage, be it by strength of numbers, the fact that the enemy ship can't effectively fight you (due to size, speed, fitting, or the fact that it's a noob or NPC ship), or simply having a better ship. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WINNING AT AN ADVANTAGE.
What makes you think this makes a difference?
As for your most recent points:
1: OF COURSE A PROPER MIX WOULD BE BETTER. I never denied that. However, beleive it or not, the price of a t1 cruiser is a lot for many people, especially and you are FAR MORE LIKELY to lose a cruiser than a frigate early in your career, due the the proliferation of gate camping nowadays, and the lower agility and higher desirability as a target in belts. In addition, it takes a lot more skill points to fit one out well. The point is not that Frigates are better, AFs do everything frigates do but better, and ceptors do everything frigates do but faster, not to mention that many other classes of ships are far more powerful and effective that frigates. Its just that frigates ARE EFFECTIVE at taking out both each other and cruisers and BCs, and are incredibly underestimated (as evidenced by your high degree of criticism).
Yes, a lot of things will kill you, but guess what? This is just as true in ANY OTHER SHIP IN THE GAME. If they bring a blob, you die. If they fit to kill you, they die. If they have a ship that can effectively counter yours, you die (all of this supposing escape is impossible, of course, but thats a different issue). In a frigate, you can evade easily, you can kill cruisers with as much (or more) ease as if you were in a cruiser yourself (depending on what/who you're fighting) and they are dirt cheap to lose.
Learning to fly something that takes a bit of skill and practice to use, while not hurting your wallet, is probably the wisest thing you can do. Sure you may die a lot, but like I said, that is true of ANY beginning pirate, and I venture that when I ômoved upö from frigates to cruisers, I died FAR FAR more often and lost MUCH more money than when I flew frigates.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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2: I fly frigates solo much of the time. I know a 2 year in game VETO pilot who flies Rifters often, and does extrodinarily well in them. You are very wrong to dismiss them. ôLike it or notö, I have > 30 < corp members who are all noobies and fly T1 frigates in BOTH solo piracy AND gangs, and are effective in both situations. Yes, they die a lot, but they also get a lot of kills and ransoms for their time. Not a one has gone back to missions ôin frustrationö, with the notable exeption of one pilot.
Why him? HE FLEW A CRUISER AND LOST IT.
Another thing you seem to ignore is that a frigate or destroyer kill alone is more than enough to satisfy a beginning pirate, and it is an easy way to learn how to PvP before moving on to bigger things.
As for your other points from the previous post: scan probes are great, yes, and I am not dismissing them in any way (how did you get that impression?)
I just haven't added the part of the guide detailing them yet.
Practice on SiSi: yes its a great idea, but of everyone I've ever flown with in EVE, I know of 5 who play on SiSi (including myself). Most people don't have the dedication or patience to use the test server or practice in a non-risk situation before trying it for real, and for many this is impossible as they start pirating only a few days into the game (as they should, if they want to).
For myself, I know that the test server is a great testing grounds, but I much prefer the risk of learning by experience on the real server. Though there is nothing wrong with testing, for me the risk and uncertainty of a new setup or tactic is part of what makes EVE what it is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way you play or the way you learned to PvP, but you are wrong to dismiss other people's styles and ideas just because they are different than your own or because you havn't tried them yourself. Just because something is not ôidealö or ôthe most effectiveö does not mean it is the wrong way to go about it.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.03 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 03/12/2008 07:59:47 Look, there are huge problems with frigates:
1) There are a lot of ships that will simply insta-kill a T1 frigate, especially one flown by a new player. If you engage a Vexor, you will die, etc. And emphasis on "insta" here, you might learn something and get a good/fun fight if you lose a cruiser duel. You get nothing but frustration if you die in 15 seconds to Warrior IIs before you even scratch the target's shields. In the best-case scenario, you're going to be spending a lot of time sitting in a safespot wishing you had some more firepower.
2) The recent AF boost was a double-edged sword, while it made AFs a much more useful option, it also made people much more aware of their vulnerability to frigates. And since webs are nerfed, guess what that means: a new emphasis on drones, neuts and missiles. While some people will still be oblivious, those of us who aren't are changing our strategies. Forget a web/medium-drone dependent Thorax and fly a Rupture with dual neuts/missiles and 5x Warrior IIs. Forget max damage Hammerhead IIs on my Harbinger, I'm bringing 5x Warrior IIs and 5x light ECM. And since all those countermeasures are designed to fight off assault frigates and interceptors, they are going to massacre T1 frigates.
3) A T1 frigate can not "gank and GTFO". Due to low dps, taking out anything but another T1 frigate is going to take a lot of time. And guess when you're at your most vulnerable as a pirate: when you're engaging the target, distracted by the fight, in a belt anyone can warp to, possibly warp scrambled yourself, etc. The longer it takes to get the kill, the more likely it is that someone else will show up and join the fight, and odds are they're not as easy a target as your victim.
Yes, gatecamps are a bigger issue for a cruiser, but not that much of an issue, especially after the latest major agility boost. I've lost a lot more ships (or at least had to give up and warp out) to being too slow to score the kill than I have to gatecamps.
Now, can you overcome these drawbacks with enough skill, numbers or target selection? Sure. But they're still huge problems... even flying a near-max-skill rail Harpy solo and with another frigate or two, I run into them far more often than when I'm flying a HAC or recon solo or with a gang of equal size. The third one especially is a problem, as there's nothing you can do that will make a frigate get the damage output of even a low-skill cruiser. Fortunately in my case, engaging at 20km in a ship that can perma-run the MWD usually means I can get out when trouble shows up, but a newbie in a 500m orbit is dead if he can't end the fight before that point.
Now, compare this to a cruiser: even a Thorax with absolutely no skills besides Electronics I, including zero drones will out-damage a lot of T1 frigates with a full T2 fit and flown by a max-skill pilot. Even with just the basic skills from character creation and a few days of training, the cruiser will significantly reduce the vulnerable time in a belt. And the cost is almost trivial, insurance covers almost the entire hull, and we're talking about T1 basic modules. -----------
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.03 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Skira Ranos As for our fights: Yes, we had advantages in most of those situations. As a PvPer, half the fight is getting the advantage, be it by strength of numbers, the fact that the enemy ship can't effectively fight you (due to size, speed, fitting, or the fact that it's a noob or NPC ship), or simply having a better ship. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WINNING AT AN ADVANTAGE.
Obviously there's nothing wrong with advantages, even if it sometimes gets kind of lame (yes, any Falcon alts who may be reading this, I'm talking about you). But:
1) Your average newbie is not going to have a pirate corp to back them up. Guess which corps players tend to join as newbies: the carebear "help newbies, run missions, and mine lots of rocks" type that spam the starter systems 23/7. Guess how much support that kind of corp will give a newbie pirate? None at all, in fact, the newbie will be lucky to avoid getting kicked out of a lot of them.
2) Killmails with that kind of numbers advantage are a good argument that 3v1 is awesome, not that T1 frigates are awesome. Like I said, ship choice matters a lot less when you have a numbers advantage, it's the evenly matched fights that count.
Quote: 2: I fly frigates solo much of the time. I know a 2 year in game VETO pilot who flies Rifters often, and does extrodinarily well in them.
Yeah, now that's a huge difference. You or I could easily kill people in frigates, that's the nice thing about having everything to level V along with years of experience and detailed knowledge of game mecahnics. Hell, there are quite a few people in lowsec I could kill with a noobship if I really cared enough to try.
A newbie, on the other hand, doesn't have wonderful things like the gunnery skills to put out enough dps to break a cruiser's tank, or the navigation skills to out-run medium drones, etc. A T1 frigate just has zero margin for error against anything that isn't a complete comedy setup.
Quote: As for your other points from the previous post: scan probes are great, yes, and I am not dismissing them in any way (how did you get that impression?)
Quoting from your guide, under "your first fight" (emphasis mine):
This is however, fortunately rare, and it is difficult to scan down small ships such as frigates. Despite the uncommonness of probing out younger pirates, try not to alt-tab or leave the keyboard while waiting in a safe spot
This would kind of give the impression that getting probed out is not all that much of a threat. It really is, a good covops pilot can break any safespot within 5au range in less than 30 seconds, and anything within 20au in only a couple minutes. Even frigates can be probed out just fine. While it's easy enough to counter scan probes, you should always keep refreshing your 14au scan looking for scan probes (unless local is empty, of course), and if you see any, immediately align and keep your finger hovering over the warp button. -----------
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.03 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 03/12/2008 09:09:20
Merin: this character is two weeks old. I was getting kills on DAY TWO.
When I learned to pirate originally on my old character, I was 2 months in game and a caldari speced char with no gunnery or armor tank skills, and I flew a Rifter.
You are also ignoring the fact that i have an entire corp full of fresh out of the gates noobies who are doing just fine solo in t1 frigates and enjoying themselves massively.
As for scan probes: getting probed IS fairly rare. That doesn't make it any less of a threat. I never said being probed wasn't a threat, I just said it was rare.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.03 09:22:00 -
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Well then I would love to know where you pirate, because everywhere I look, all I find is:
1) Targets that would be suicide for a T1 frigate (drones, experienced players in AFs, etc).
2) Targets that have friends around (IOW, suicide for a T1 frigate).
3) Targets that are near FW blobs (IOW, gank and GTFO is critical, and a frigate can't do it).
4) Targets that are in systems with other pirates (IOW, gank and GTFO again).
Of course I forgot to mention the best place for newbies in T1 frigates: highsec can flipping. Lots of non-combat or poorly-fitted combat ships, a lot of equally inexperienced victims, and a lot of ability to manage aggro and make the "gank and GTFO" rule a lot less strict. In fact, with very careful management of aggro timers, you can arrange it so you have plenty of time to take as long as you need to wear down the target, with CONCORD ready to protect you if anyone else tries to ruin your 1v1.
And hey, bring a hauler, and even if they don't take the bait, you just take all their ore and get your money anyway. -----------
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Posted - 2008.12.03 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: JienNuRen on 03/12/2008 12:04:07
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Of course I forgot to mention the best place for newbies in T1 frigates: highsec can flipping. Lots of non-combat or poorly-fitted combat ships, a lot of equally inexperienced victims, and a lot of ability to manage aggro and make the "gank and GTFO" rule a lot less strict. In fact, with very careful management of aggro timers, you can arrange it so you have plenty of time to take as long as you need to wear down the target, with CONCORD ready to protect you if anyone else tries to ruin your 1v1.
And hey, bring a hauler, and even if they don't take the bait, you just take all their ore and get your money anyway.
xactly what i suggested before.. but somehow op has ignored that.. i guess hes not a friend of high sec piracy at all...
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.03 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Skira Ranos I do take issue with the statment that an armor rep is useless, as I've had many many fights (in the last week alone) where the armor rep kept me alive while I fought, or while my gang took someone out. Just last night, i was fighting a caracal that would have killed me without my armor rep. This is a frequent occurance.
Listen, this is your pirate guide, you get to put in it what you want. You don't have to make my "it is usually foolish to rely on an armor repairer that may have just one or two cycles to repair before you or your target is dead" turn into "an armor rep is useless."
My suggested noob setup, with all skills at V, has 1,967 HP and no rep; against 100 DPS, it will last 19 seconds, not taking any resistances into account. If instead of 200mm plate and a MAPC we fit a SAR I and 50mm plate, we have 1,475 HP and rep 20 DPS. Against 100 DPS, the shields are gone in roughly 4 seconds, at which point the SAR may be activated to good effect. The SAR reps 60 DPS every 4.5 seconds; after three cycles--13.5 seconds--180 DPS will have been added to the ship's remaining 1,084, but 1,350 will be destroyed, leaving the ship dead in less than 13 seconds activating the SAR.
This scenario is entirely contrived, of course. The less DPS the enemy ship can bring, the better the SAR looks, as more time = more repair cycles. And the closer the noob T1-fit Incursus can get to delivering its max DPS of 116 the less of an issue this is, as either way the Incursus survives. I guess in the end it comes down to pilot preference. Your experience (I'm not sure which T1 frigate you fly) leaves you frequently being saved only by having a SAR, while in my experience I die quickly or not at all. That may be why Gallente have a different fighting style than Minmatar or Amarr!
Quote: My low ranking of the incursus is not so much related to its ability to kill other frigates (though I am speculative of that, ESPECAILY post QR where MWDs are deactivated by scramblers, making it near impossible to keep on top of another frigate that has AB). It is more doubt in it's ability to take on cruisers and larger, which are a big stable of pirate diets (especially, like I said, post QR, with the web nerf).
Also you have obviously not fought any of the cruiser sited in your guide post QR, as none of them (save the small blaster rax) can hit you with guns, and medium drones now track like medium turrets and are similarly harmless.
I fought cruisers with MWD's before QR, and I guess I can fight cruisers with AB's now. I was up against medium drones that could eat me alive before QR, and I guess I can fight less effective medium drones or small drones now. An AB frigate may be able to get away from me if it neutralizes my MWD, but then I may be able to get away from a cruiser with a disruptor with my MWD. I'm not trying to argue that the noob T1 fit I suggest for the Incursus is the most optimal fit there is, just that the Incursus is a fine PvP frigate; I showed you the fit because you asked how I got my kills (though as I skilled up I moved into T2 guns and drone). EFT aside, remember, in an Incursus I was 22-12 solo against T1 cruisers before QR, and 2-4 against T1 battlecruisers.
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UniTwo
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Posted - 2008.12.03 15:19:00 -
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First of all, very nice guide..... since i started to play eve, the guides were the back hand that pull me every time i needed help and my corp mates weren½t around.
Well.. one thing i have to say, this was the first guide i saw the ''guide maker'' include ships of every race and every situation, ''every'' is really the word in this guide. The other things is that u say that this is a Pirate guide, but i think it can apply to other types of gaming in EVE...... what i mean, is that i was almost all the time in high sec, and now i'm seeing myself in 0.0, and there are some things we really dont know at all. FOr example, the scan thing, u dont need the scan in high sec. (i was using it to see if there was more hulks in belts so i can get a belt just for me). Some other things too. The thing is, this is a very nice guide for a new player learn if he/she wants to be a Pirate or not, and learning about the game mechanics at the same time.
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Posted - 2008.12.03 15:44:00 -
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My Pirating tactics:
Jump into low sec: Dir scan 360, then narrow it down to 15 degrees and hope target is on a belt. Disable overview settings and search for cans/wrecks.
Warp to location, MWD/AB to target, point and pop.
Or:
Fly Cov Ops, probe and BM the mission gate, then come back in Gank fit with a salvager ;)
Or:
Find a Hulk in a .6-.5 system, remote rep the belt rats to draw aggro and target Hulk, hopefully if its a Macro-miner, you'll have an instant kill thanks to their ignorance. Course do this in a Gank Cruiser, like a Rupture or Thorax.
Or:
Bait yourself. Sit in a Low-sec belt and spam the Dir scanner 360 degrees with a 1.5 Mil range, if a Rifter is incoming, then just stay and kill him as he attacks and aggros you first. If its a Curse or Interceptor, then run.
Or:
Bait-can yourself. Sit in a Belt with your Gank Cruiser with 1 minig laser, and jet can-mine with a time-named can. Hopefully some fool would think your the noob mining in a Moa-Miner and steals your can.
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H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.12.03 15:56:00 -
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Nice guide Skira!
I read the first one when I started my pirate career and always recommended it to people who wanted to start piracy.
The debate about cruisers or frigates for starters is useless. Both have their advantages, but usually a noob should be able to fly a frig properly before a cruiser and there are enough people who are doing quite well in frigates.
A numbers advantage is not a bad thing. Piracy is not about being fair in pvp, because this will cost you more in losses than you gain. And a gang of 3-5 frigs is something that nobody should underestimate. If someone says that frigates are useless, then he will probably also claim that stealth bombers should not fit a cloak
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.03 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 03/12/2008 18:40:23 Edited by: Skira Ranos on 03/12/2008 18:39:40
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Well then I would love to know where you pirate, because everywhere I look, all I find is:
1) Targets that would be suicide for a T1 frigate (drones, experienced players in AFs, etc).
2) Targets that have friends around (IOW, suicide for a T1 frigate).
3) Targets that are near FW blobs (IOW, gank and GTFO is critical, and a frigate can't do it).
4) Targets that are in systems with other pirates (IOW, gank and GTFO again).
Of course I forgot to mention the best place for newbies in T1 frigates: highsec can flipping. Lots of non-combat or poorly-fitted combat ships, a lot of equally inexperienced victims, and a lot of ability to manage aggro and make the "gank and GTFO" rule a lot less strict. In fact, with very careful management of aggro timers, you can arrange it so you have plenty of time to take as long as you need to wear down the target, with CONCORD ready to protect you if anyone else tries to ruin your 1v1.
And hey, bring a hauler, and even if they don't take the bait, you just take all their ore and get your money anyway.
Can baiting is fine. It's just not piracy. Not to mention that four of my often active trainees in my corp started out can flipping and hated it. Two said it almost turned them off of PvP to begin with. They all said that they could never ever ever get fights. I know this is not always true, but its true enough that I recommend piracy over it.
As for you examples: 1) Ships that CAN fit light drones (medium drones are worthless against frigates post QR, i fought a vexor with hammer IIs the day after QR, and with a web his drones couldn't hit me. I ransomed him in the end.) often don't. Targets that look scary on paper are often much less so when you try them. Yes, sometimes you will die, but of the people who frequent low sec many dont have a glimmer of an idea how to fit their ships. Yes, if you bump into light drones they will kill you, but every ship type has its rock paper scisors counterpart. (yeah AFs will kill you, but they'll butchered a cruiser post QR too)
2) You will always find people with backup no matter what ship you're flying, and they can always kill you with enough people. Thats irrelevent.
3) FW blobs react very very slowly, and are often composed of noobs who scatter in terror when a hostile warps in. In addition, a solo frigate can get some VERY nice ganks in FW "minor complexes" where entrance is restricted to t1 frigates and destroyers. Often, 1-6 frigates will seperate off from the main blob to run the minor plex. When you enter as a pirate, chances are half of those people will scatter in terror, and the res t will be too far appart to help each other. I've gotten many many many kills off of FW gangs like this.
4) The solution to this one is don't be a coward. We attacked a drake in mara last night with five frigates. There were 3 HACs, two ceptors, and a CS on scan. Luckily, the drake was crap fit (I was counting on it, the char was young) and we were in and out right before the gang found us. Had this been a cruiser or frigate, I would have pulled the same solo. Example: just 20 minutes prior I had taken on a Caracal with his corp mate and two veto pilots in local. His friend came in in a assault launcher cara mere seconds after the first popped, and I escaped easily. Veto didn't interfere, but instead offered to help me probe the guys pod (he logged).
Yes, sometimes you will die, but all you will be losing is a T1 frigate that is easily replaceable. Many, many, many more times than you will die, however, you will get supprising kills or ransoms. Fate rewards the bold, not the timid. _
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boobookittywhat
Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence
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Good to see you back <3
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.12.04 08:47:00 -
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Looks great at a first glance, going to put this up as a sticky on our corp forums.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/12/2008 09:40:50
Originally by: Skira Ranos Fate rewards the bold, not the timid.
I agree entirely. It's even more fun when you're ganking someone while the local anti-pirates can only sit and watch uselessly. The problem with frigates is it's so much harder to be bold, at least if you want to do it successfully. Two examples from today (granted, they involve my near-max-skill Phantasm, not a newbie's T1 cruiser, but the general idea is the same) that highlight what I'm talking about:
1) Ganking a Drake with a known anti-pirate in system and looking for me. Cruiser-level dps made quick work of it, and I was back in my safespot with the killmail before the anti-pirate warped in behind me. It was a close one though, a little slower and I would have been dead. Now, dps on a newbie cruiser is going to be quite a bit less, but swap the Phantasm for a pair of newbie Thoraxes and you've got similar dps levels. A frigate just can't compete with that, you're going to be sitting vulnerable for much longer.
2) Running from a 15-man blob (including a Falcon, of course). Similar Drake in a belt, but this one had a Falcon 100km off, and a blob next door that I didn't know about. However, thanks to engaging at 20km, I was easily able to break orbit, burn out of tackle range, and get out before the blob could get there and kill me. Frigates do not have this option, to do any meaningful damage you have to be deep within web/scramble range. Your own guide even suggests going in to 500m, and there's simply no escape from that range. On the other hand, even a newbie T1 cruiser has the option to fight at 20km and keep the escape option open.
Like I said, the fundamental rule is "gank and GTFO", and a cruiser does both of them much better than the frigate. The superior range and dps give you a much better chance of going into borderline-suicidal situations and getting away with the killmail. While you might argue that the frigate costs much less to lose when you guess wrong and die, ISK isn't everything. Not only is losing a ship of any kind a blow to the ego, but it's a hell of a lot more satisfying taunting your lame blobbing opponents in local with a cargo hold of your latest victim's loot than warping off in a pod knowing they didn't get much from killing you.
It's why the rail Harpy and Ishkur are such good ships. It's not the tank, it's the ability to engage from 20km with reasonable dps... gank and GTFO. I'll take my Harpy right into the middle of a trap, knowing I have a fair shot at blowing away the bait and living to tell the tale. Good luck doing that at 500m in a T1 frigate. -----------
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Raul Watanabe
Gallente NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:05:00 -
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Everybody say 'yarr'
Now your a pirate
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Comrade Bliss
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:06:00 -
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Wonderful guide, just wonderful thanks m8 Life is a grave...Dig it... |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/12/2008 09:40:50
Originally by: Skira Ranos Fate rewards the bold, not the timid.
I agree entirely. It's even more fun when you're ganking someone while the local anti-pirates can only sit and watch uselessly. The problem with frigates is it's so much harder to be bold, at least if you want to do it successfully. Two examples from today (granted, they involve my near-max-skill Phantasm, not a newbie's T1 cruiser, but the general idea is the same) that highlight what I'm talking about:
1) Ganking a Drake with a known anti-pirate in system (etc.)
I'm not arguing other ships are not better, you keep coming back to that. however, a week old noob in a cruiser is not going to be able to, as you put it, gank and GTFO. he will instead die painfully to the blob.
In other news, me and a wingmate killed a raven in rifters yesterday...
Merin, I know that high SP and big ships will often trump low sp and small ships. Thats not the issue. The issue is that you CAN pirate in T1 frigates, and do so successfully from the get go, with absolutely bare minimum skill points. My corporation's killboards are proof enough of that. Any other points you try and make are completely off the mark.
No matter what you say, or what evidence you try and present, nothing can change the truth. I've been doing frigate piracy for 3 years, and I LEARNED piracy in a frigate in the first place. That is not to say I havn't used big ships in my time too (you might recall a certain dominix when I was still flying as Ren Tales)
My favorite pirate ships in the game are the Vagabond, Arazu, Pilgrim, Hurricane, Crow, Jaguar, Ishkur... and Rifter.
If you reply to this post with more arguing and attempts at proving me wrong, I will have no choice but to ignore you. This argument has gone on long enough, and its clear to me your opinion can't be changed. In light of that, I think it is wise to discontinue this pointless dialog.
Fly safe Merin.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2008.12.05 22:46:00 -
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Great guide so far. A couple minor improvements can be made, but overall a thumbs up!
Also, nice to see you back in game. I've flown with Skira for about 2.5 years over various characters, and have to say that he does, in fact, know what he's doing. Sure, his style isn't the only way to do it, but I WILL vouch for its level of entertainment. For me, piracy isn't just a business, it's a way of having fun and staying competative and this guide should be enough for even new players to do just that.
In short, keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing this guide completed. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Juan Ignacio
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:50:00 -
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do ppl really need a guide to "piracy" i mean is the easiest job in eve lolx ... set a scout alling in a ss and thats it! and when ppl come to gank u .. u gtfo and , u call ur friends and u have a little figth -_-
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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:18:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Juan Ignacio do ppl really need a guide to "piracy" i mean is the easiest job in eve
Anyone can do piracy, sure, it's easy enough but what the OP here is doing is giving folks the knowlege to be a "effective" pirate. Anyone can shoot a noob ratter at a belt but that's not what the guide is about.
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neamiah
Gallente Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:31:00 -
[71]
Mad respect to the Ranos family!
This is top notch... great refresher for me, especially comimg back from 0.0
Big THANKS!
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Gavin Neltharek
Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.06 14:34:00 -
[72]
Absolutely fantastic guide. A+++ ohh and shameless bump for a friend =) <----------------------------------> Carebears aren't people, they're giant flying piniatas.
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Vall Kor
Minmatar Player VS Player
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:18:00 -
[73]
Nice guide.
"Forbid a man to think for himself or to act for himself and you may add the joy of piracy and the zest of smuggling to his life." Elbert Hubbard
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psylenz
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2008.12.06 18:00:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Beardponderer Good work, first decent post in C&P in a while.
Needs sticky
^^this
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 22:53:00 -
[75]
Great guide.
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Aeon Starcatcher
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Posted - 2008.12.08 17:47:00 -
[76]
Great Guide first off, just wanted to ask... Is there one good system for starting pirates? Or should I just pick a system that is low sec and gets some traffic?
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.09 11:29:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Aeon Starcatcher Great Guide first off, just wanted to ask... Is there one good system for starting pirates? Or should I just pick a system that is low sec and gets some traffic?
You'll have to find your own hunting grounds, sorry =) _
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Noobie Piracy Guide |
Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2008.12.09 21:50:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Aeon Starcatcher Great Guide first off, just wanted to ask... Is there one good system for starting pirates? Or should I just pick a system that is low sec and gets some traffic?
I enjoyed Kubinen a bit when I started out. Not sure if Blacksheep are still patrolling that area, though, you might want to be careful. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Nick Nockemout
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Posted - 2008.12.10 11:29:00 -
[79]
Hey man, I am thoroughly impressed by the material in this guide. I have been playing EVE for a short time now, and have been mezmerized by the PvP aspect of this game. With little to no knowledge of how to pirate in this game, this guide has been an eye opening, albet time consuming endevor. As an English Major I would just like to point out how well written, and seemless this information is. You have given me the courage to take off my swimming wings and nose plugs, and go solo. Thank you for this vital, informative piece. May we meet on the battlefield on day, either as friends or as enemies. --Nick Nockemout-- A.i.G. C.C.O. Guided Fear High Council
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Xarkon
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Posted - 2008.12.15 20:23:00 -
[80]
Quote: If EVE ever gets to be keyboard-breakingly anger inducing
I read that and thought, Boy am I glad that I found out that my local thrift store sells replacement keyboards by the dozens for just a few dollars.... Not that I have a need for something like that!!! Now, I heartily agree that the adrenaline rush one gets from online Pkill hits is the best I've ever found. But, let me tell you, beating a keyboard on your bedpost until it literally breaks in two (or multiple pieces) and watching those keys fly all around the room - that comes in as a real close second place.
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dibblebill
Mercenaries International Alliance Overtime Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.17 23:57:00 -
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Quote: 3) FW blobs react very very slowly, and are often composed of noobs who scatter in terror when a hostile warps in. In addition, a solo frigate can get some VERY nice ganks in FW "minor complexes" where entrance is restricted to t1 frigates and destroyers. Often, 1-6 frigates will seperate off from the main blob to run the minor plex. When you enter as a pirate, chances are half of those people will scatter in terror, and the res t will be too far appart to help each other. I've gotten many many many kills off of FW gangs like this.
Haha I hate that. My short time in FW saw far too many fleetmates bugger off when an equal enemy force came up on us... But thanks. Great reading material, for pirates or PvP people! ---Signature--- I have turned my back upon the State and their sins. If you enroach upon my freedom, prepare to fight for your life. |
Grek Forto
THE IRIS United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:07:00 -
[82]
Very nice. Was very interesting!
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.29 11:37:00 -
[83]
Why on earth is this stickied and not simply in the resource thread? Last thing the game needs is more newblet can tippers scaring off the new industrialists.
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Milkman Dani
Gallente Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.29 12:23:00 -
[84]
All I have to say, is Taranis.
Skira is a great person, and I totally think the guide is worth a save and a peek to later. It's a great read and will get a newbie pirate off on the right track. The naysayers don't do anything for our profession anyway, and their comments are not worth the paper I use to wipe with.
Anyway, read the guide. It's totally worth it to someone who has no idea what they're doing in lowsec and are trying to get in on the piracy trade.
This is the most fun in eve, the adrenaline rush is pretty great. At least for me anyway, I quit 0.0 to do this, and totally happy I did.
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Fixil
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:11:00 -
[85]
Thanks a lot for this guide, i've just made my first trips into low-sec space and have been practising with the scanner, getting used to it. Managed to locate a few people but decided against attacking a Battleship in my Frigate....haha. Maybe next time I will be lucky to find something more appealing to attack.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.31 11:08:00 -
[86]
Originally by: G'kek Why on earth is this stickied and not simply in the resource thread? Last thing the game needs is more newblet can tippers scaring off the new industrialists.
Not actually reading the guide ftl? __
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neamiah
Gallente Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 04:46:00 -
[87]
Originally by: G'kek Why on earth is this stickied and not simply in the resource thread? Last thing the game needs is more newblet can tippers scaring off the new industrialists.
Umm... shoosh!
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Lady Alwilda
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Posted - 2009.01.04 11:18:00 -
[88]
Thank you very much for this excelent guide, Skira. It is clear and well written Thanks to you my first two attempts on some yarring where succesfull and I hope many more will come.
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Sagacious Z
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Posted - 2009.01.06 09:18:00 -
[89]
Gosh, I am just a meek, kindhearted, foxy Vherokior vixxen, but after reading your excellent guide, I just may turn to the dark side.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.08 14:50:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sagacious Z Gosh, I am just a meek, kindhearted, foxy Vherokior vixxen, but after reading your excellent guide, I just may turn to the dark side.
The darkside could always use more vixens. __
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.10 03:12:00 -
[91]
good guide.
The Lord of The Dance has approved.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 11:58:00 -
[92]
Updated. |
Nephilius
Caldari Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:34:00 -
[93]
Good read, I like it! |
Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2009.01.11 17:19:00 -
[94]
Exerpt: A long time ago, in late 05 when I was first getting into piracy, I wrote a guide that has since become one of the staple piracy guides on the sticky.
(A side note: this was on another character, who I sold for ISK [which I gave to in-game friends] when I thought I was quiting the game for good. The player who bought my character seems to be taking credit for my hard work now, and I cant go back and delete my old post in favor of this one *sigh*. Anyways: )
So Jack McSwain wrote this not the Skira Ranos making the post....
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Thorek Ironbrow
Caldari Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:18:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Thorek Ironbrow on 12/01/2009 07:19:46 Thank you very much for this guide. I've always wanted to know how to use the scanner, and fly solo in a Merlin.
Time to get my friend and go pirating.
Although I can only read the online version, which isn't supposedly updated. I can't download the PDF, the page is broken or something. ____________________________
Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 13:01:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Megan Maynard Exerpt:
So Jack McSwain wrote this not the Skira Ranos making the post....
No, Jack McSwain is my real name. Skira Ranos is my new main character. __
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:12:00 -
[97]
Checking back on this, it just continues to grow into something even more awesome.
I get a lot of mail from rookie players who're looking to start off in game as pirates, I'll be sure to refer them to this thread. The layout and awesome content basically mean it's required reading to be honest.
Awesome stuff.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Mr Ignitious
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:07:00 -
[98]
Wow. Epic quality.
Bravo |
FerDeLane
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:28:00 -
[99]
Excellent guide. Thanks very much :)
Also, really nice writing style, must have taken ages - well done
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rantuket
Caldari legion industries ltd
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Posted - 2009.01.23 03:10:00 -
[100]
Great guide, thanks for the effort.
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Eddie Monaghan
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:55:00 -
[101]
Thank you,thank you,THANK YOU!! for this guide! Using the information in this guide I got my first Piracy Kill tonight. I found my target with in about a minute using the scanning section. Much improved from what I was trying before. Anyhow, thanx again.
~ Eddie |
Tractus Vesica
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:51:00 -
[102]
Bloody pirates.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 06:15:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Bloody pirates.
You called? __
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Sikoras
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Posted - 2009.01.31 15:39:00 -
[104]
Ive been reading your guide and it is very hel[pful but i was wondering if the offer t join your corp still stands?
This is my in game name.
I have other alts but they are getting kind of boring so i really fancy pirating.
P.S Cheers for the giude mate.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.31 22:03:00 -
[105]
Recruitment
yeah we're still open. __
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Catrina Denaries
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:37:00 -
[106]
Excellent guide! Cannot wait to see it grow. |
Brego Tralowski
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:43:00 -
[107]
Well i'm not a pirate...........oh what the hell YYAARR! |
Rebvyn
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Posted - 2009.02.13 01:16:00 -
[108]
Guide is awesome. Corp is awesome. That is all.
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Ice Fist
Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.13 17:10:00 -
[109]
Props to a great guide, even if it isn't finished. I had the pleasure of fighting against BM and BMBC for a couple months when I lived in Oto, there were great fights to be had and I can say that all of their pilots from the rifter pilots to their T2 cruiser pilots all fly incredibly smart.
Will come back soon, |
crockett EXE
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Posted - 2009.02.16 07:58:00 -
[110]
I wanted to say thanks for this guide, it was a good read and as a 2 week old player it gave me a lot of good tips.
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Lunatitch
ComTech Logistical Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.18 03:00:00 -
[111]
Indeed a very nice guide :)
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Trema Porbel
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:21:00 -
[112]
Wow! Wonderful! Well done =cD
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Ghost Nightmare
House Of Hades The Council.
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Posted - 2009.02.20 00:39:00 -
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Seven Bayer
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:59:00 -
[114]
Thanks for the guide. I have been wondering for a little bit where to even start. So thanks. :)
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.02.26 18:15:00 -
[115]
When do you think you will have the "newb target detabase" up? Here is what I would love to see in that section, with comments for both solo pirates and gangs.
Prime targets Target cautiously Targets to avoid
Those are 3 that would be most helpful to me. thx, awesome guide and corp btw.
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Siff Gaal
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Posted - 2009.03.05 17:44:00 -
[116]
Found a lot of answers in this guide. Thank you :)
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Allota Vagina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:32:00 -
[117]
Yea thanks for the guide, gave me alot of information while i was waiting for the client to download, upgraded my trial to full game, yay. Really want to go pirate.
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Pponmypupu
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Posted - 2009.03.29 05:03:00 -
[118]
nice guide, i'm new so i can't help but wondering at one section of your guide that says i should be setting my targets on destroyers among other things. I can understand cruisers since they have bigger guns but arent destroyers made to take out frigates? I just took one look at a destroyer's attributes and decided i shouldn't mess with those judging from the number of turrets and ship bonuses it gets. or do destroyers fit medium guns or is there something im missing here?
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:02:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Pponmypupu nice guide, i'm new so i can't help but wondering at one section of your guide that says i should be setting my targets on destroyers among other things. I can understand cruisers since they have bigger guns but arent destroyers made to take out frigates? I just took one look at a destroyer's attributes and decided i shouldn't mess with those judging from the number of turrets and ship bonuses it gets. or do destroyers fit medium guns or is there something im missing here?
In theory, you are correct, a proper PvP fit destroyer will rip a frigate apart in seconds. In reality, however, very few destroyers are flown by high-skill PvP pilots. The vast majority of them are flown by newbie carebears looking for their first upgrade from a frigate before they have the skills for a cruiser, and are very easy kills. -----------
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Pponmypupu
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:05:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Pponmypupu nice guide, i'm new so i can't help but wondering at one section of your guide that says i should be setting my targets on destroyers among other things. I can understand cruisers since they have bigger guns but arent destroyers made to take out frigates? I just took one look at a destroyer's attributes and decided i shouldn't mess with those judging from the number of turrets and ship bonuses it gets. or do destroyers fit medium guns or is there something im missing here?
In theory, you are correct, a proper PvP fit destroyer will rip a frigate apart in seconds. In reality, however, very few destroyers are flown by high-skill PvP pilots. The vast majority of them are flown by newbie carebears looking for their first upgrade from a frigate before they have the skills for a cruiser, and are very easy kills.
i dunno. if i were in a destroyer and a frigate jumped me, pve fit or not i would think i could handle him simply because i have more guns/high innate tracking speed. even for noobs like me itd just be a matter of target lock and twiddle your thumbs... unless i am missing something here i still don't see how destroyers are easy kills for frigates.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:10:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Pponmypupu
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
In theory, you are correct, a proper PvP fit destroyer will rip a frigate apart in seconds. In reality, however, very few destroyers are flown by high-skill PvP pilots. The vast majority of them are flown by newbie carebears looking for their first upgrade from a frigate before they have the skills for a cruiser, and are very easy kills.
i dunno. if i were in a destroyer and a frigate jumped me, pve fit or not i would think i could handle him simply because i have more guns/high innate tracking speed. even for noobs like me itd just be a matter of target lock and twiddle your thumbs... unless i am missing something here i still don't see how destroyers are easy kills for frigates.
More guns, but same DPS due to the ROF penalty. And considerably less tank than a frig. And often range fit, and tracking bonus or no, ranged guns wont track a close orbiting frig. __
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.30 04:38:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 30/03/2009 04:44:34
Originally by: Skira Ranos More guns, but same DPS due to the ROF penalty. And considerably less tank than a frig. And often range fit, and tracking bonus or no, ranged guns wont track a close orbiting frig.
Not really. The ROF penalty simply brings them down the dps of 5-6 guns, they're still going to out-gank a 3-gun T1 frigate by a large margin. And out-tank it too, with higher base HP and more cap/fitting for tank mods. Sig radius and speed (the usual killers of a destroyer's tank) aren't going to be a problem, since frigate guns will nearly always hit for full damage no matter what your sig. Tracking is a bit more of an issue if they're long-range fit, a 50% tracking bonus is huge, but if you can survive to get into a very tight orbit, you can out-run their tracking. Only problem is that's a big if... those long range fits are quite effective at ripping apart a frigate before it gets anywhere near that 500m orbit.
Just looking at the ships themselves, the destroyer should win 90% of the time. The only reason they don't is because good destroyer pilots are almost nonexistent. IMO, destroyers are one of the most underrated classes. If you can ensure you aren't going to have to face cruisers/BCs/BBs (where your sig/speed becomes a fatal problem), a destroyer is a very good choice for hunting frigates/inties/AFs.
Originally by: Pponmypupu i dunno. if i were in a destroyer and a frigate jumped me, pve fit or not i would think i could handle him simply because i have more guns/high innate tracking speed. even for noobs like me itd just be a matter of target lock and twiddle your thumbs... unless i am missing something here i still don't see how destroyers are easy kills for frigates.
See, here's the key point: the carebear target isn't you. Not only are they PvE fit (usually very badly PvE fit), but their skills are probably much lower and they don't have any PvP experience. You've almost always got enough of a skill (both player and character) advantage over a typical destroyer pilot that you'll kill them fairly easily.
Granted, it would probably be even easier for you if they were in a T1 frigate instead, but a destroyer is almost always a very possible target for a T1 frigate.
For example, here's a the most recent destroyer kills from the OP's killboard:
http://bloodmoney.eve-stuff.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1395
http://bloodmoney.eve-stuff.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1381
http://bloodmoney.eve-stuff.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1379
http://bloodmoney.eve-stuff.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1369
Note how only one of them is anything even remotely approaching a proper PvP fit, while two of them are outright comedy killmails. Simply by following a decent fitting guide, your T1 frigate will very easily out-gank, out-tank, and out-run most destroyers, and that's not even cosidering the huge difference in PvP experience you're likely to benefit from.
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Pponmypupu
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:59:00 -
[123]
i see. yeah some of those fits are uh..
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.04 16:13:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Just looking at the ships themselves, the destroyer should win 90% of the time. The only reason they don't is because good destroyer pilots are almost nonexistent. IMO, destroyers are one of the most underrated classes. If you can ensure you aren't going to have to face cruisers/BCs/BBs (where your sig/speed becomes a fatal problem), a destroyer is a very good choice for hunting frigates/inties/AFs.
I agree with most of what you said, but I dissagree on the Cruiser v Destroyer problem. I'm a fan of the Thrasher my self, and most of my best fights have been in one, and experiance has been different for me, see here;
http://bloodmoney.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1182
http://bloodmoney.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1195
http://bloodmoney.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1201
http://bloodmoney.eve-stuff.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=230
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Nusua Ja'Zaakh
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Posted - 2009.04.09 21:22:00 -
[125]
First of all : tnx for the guide, it's well written & enhanced my player-skills to c things in the Eve-universe which where a mystery to me.
But still, the optimistic tone of this guide & that of many pirate blogs i've read: 'ye, i said to myself, i'm gonne try this, rigged a frigate and on the first evening I killed x & x & x.. ' My experience is quiete a contrast to that. I dont have much game-time in a week, but the hours of teaching myself to be a master-scanner have tought me this: Maybe in the 'old days' of EvE but now, Apart of myself, there is no such thing as a wandering Noob in low-sec, happely mining roids or ratting low-sec goodies. 1/3the of the people encountered are alt's, doing in-station stuff. 1/3th are pirates, flying insane ships, 1/3th are are miners; not mining roids, but moons in heavely defended POS.
Granted, when I finally got frustrated enough to lay myself still as bait in an asteroid belt, i got jumped instantly by a Crow which couldnt kill my punisher & after a couple o minutes he jumped away. Which was the a super laugh and more a thrill then all the months of mission running I ever did. So is the anticipation of the hunt, the looking for targets. Every jump is excited when you have the expectation that scanned target will finally appear at the end of the tunnel.
I'll switch hunting-grounds a few times in the hope it's just bad luck before I give up on it. The low-sec space beyond Amamake is just empty or insane high-lvl.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.10 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 10/04/2009 02:23:15 Edited by: Skira Ranos on 10/04/2009 02:17:50
Originally by: Nusua Ja'Zaakh
But still, the optimistic tone of this guide & that of many pirate blogs i've read: 'ye, i said to myself, i'm gonne try this, rigged a frigate and on the first evening I killed x & x & x.. ' My experience is quiete a contrast to that. I dont have much game-time in a week, but the hours of teaching myself to be a master-scanner have tought me this: Maybe in the 'old days' of EvE but now, Apart of myself, there is no such thing as a wandering Noob in low-sec, happely mining roids or ratting low-sec goodies. 1/3the of the people encountered are alt's, doing in-station stuff. 1/3th are pirates, flying insane ships, 1/3th are are miners; not mining roids, but moons in heavely defended POS.
Two things: "Ye olde days of eve" is a common misconception. Piracy is HARD HARD HARD work, and there never was a "good old days". It has always been hard, well at least it has for the 4 years I've been doing it. That said, you are wrong on the "there's no such thing". There IS such a thing, the problem lies in finding them before they spot you and run, before another pirate finds them first, or even just finding the system there in. Until you get very very good at hunting, they WILL elude you. Its a matter of patience and a matter of practice. I might have to amend the next edition of the guide to stress this:
Piracy is not easy. Piracy is not action-packed (unless you're very good and/or very lucky). Piracy is (one of) EVE's "Hard", "Expert", or "Very Hard" mode. It takes patience, skill, and lots and lots of practice before you start to get lots of good kills.
From the sound of it, you went on one roam. Great, good work. Looks like you discovered the basics of piracy: Everyone and their cousin has a massive ship/blob or is hiding in a POS. Even myself, having massive amounts of practice and a battlecruiser at minimum nowadays, only find viable targets every other roam. Now go on ten more roams, THEN if you don't get at least a few good fights, then you can complain. The life of the pirate is not an easy one, not by far, and I thought I stressed that in the guide. EVE is hard, and piracy, though a good way to get into PvP, is even harder.
Footnote: For those who might be ready to smack me, let me stress that I mean "solo" piracy and/or "frigate" piracy is hard. Yes, I am aware you can get OMGWTFUBAR kills camping gates/stations with 20+ man blobs, but to me that's not really piracy, or at least not my definition of fun piracy.
Edit: If I seem angry/confrontational in this post, I'm sorry. I was a bit... stressed RL when I wrote this. I mean everything I said, but I apologize for the tone. Just trying to be helpful
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Shigsy
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.25 15:02:00 -
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Never posted in this thread, and its a very detailed and well laid out guide. Grats
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.25 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy Never posted in this thread, and its a very detailed and well laid out guide. Grats
more like u just want to be on every single thread.
In conclusion, I think you should vote Larkonis Trassler for CSM.
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2009.05.04 01:52:00 -
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Our policy is to keep stickies temporary and fresh.
It would be fantastic to port this over to the EVElopedia.
If you require any assistance in this matter please get in touch with us via petition under the Other Issues - Forums categories.
This thread will be unstickied in the near future.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.04 12:07:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Skira Ranos on 04/05/2009 12:08:02
Hmm... as much as I'd like to support the EVElopedia effort, and may indeed port this over there, I must say I'm a bit.. taken aback.
Is it possible to keep a sticky up here with a link to the EVElopedia article in question? The main reason this guide has been read so thoroughly is its stickied location.
Note: This threads "Reads" count at time of posting: 29049
The Official CnP resources thread: 2536
Now I know the resources thread has been recently reposted, but I seem to recall always seeing an extremely low number there. The accessibility of this guide is one of the things that's made it so effective, and helped many people get into piracy and have fun in game where they otherwise would not have gotten into PvP at all, or become frustrated and quit the game (as I originally did when I was learning PvP the hard way).
EVElopedia is wonderful, but in its current form gets a lot less attention than these forums do. I would love to support EVElopedia in growing and becoming the main guide/resource database for EVE, but it simply isn't acesed by as many noobies as CCP would probably like at the moment, whereas the EVE-O forums are.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Our policy is to keep stickies temporary and fresh.
Does that mean if I re-write the whole thing you'll sticky the new thread for that one? If so I'll sacrifice all my time in the next 3 days to writing a new edition. Anything? I urge you to reconsider this. __
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Posted - 2009.05.04 19:28:00 -
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/signed
I may have my disagreements with some points here, but it's just silly to un-sticky a thread that is clearly getting a lot of use. It might make sense if there was a better/newer guide to replace it, but as far as I know, there isn't, so why remove valuable information just because of some arbitrary time limit? ==========
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Posted - 2009.05.06 01:42:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Is it possible to keep a sticky up here with a link to the EVElopedia article in question? The main reason this guide has been read so thoroughly is its stickied location.
EVElopedia is wonderful, but in its current form gets a lot less attention than these forums do. I would love to support EVElopedia in growing and becoming the main guide/resource database for EVE, but it simply isn't acesed by as many noobies as CCP would probably like at the moment, whereas the EVE-O forums are.
I second this. EVElopedia is great, but you have to really go hunting for stuff in there. I think a lot of new players get their first taste of pvp thanks to this guide, and it will be read a lot less if it is there.
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Dragonrider Tao Ball Move stale cakes to the storeroom. Allow space for the kitchen to prepare fresh delictations. Breathe in the transience of letters.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:11:00 -
[134]
I would move that this is far from stale. __
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.11 22:17:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Skira Ranos I would move that this is far from stale.
Originally by: Magic Dragonrider Tao Ball The mould spreads. Fresh air is required. Open the floodgates so that others may follow.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:01:00 -
[136]
Why the move now?
Burying it in EVElopedia isn't really a very good way to treat Skira after all this Guide didn't just fall form the sky it took time and effort to make and if anything deserves a sticky and to be stickied in it's rightful home of C&P, please reconsider the unstickying of this thread.
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Drake Omen
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Posted - 2009.05.13 11:51:00 -
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I just started playing EVE about 4 days ago, within 2 days I had my first run in with a dirty pirate that shall remain nameless. There I was minding my own buisness mining some ore in .5 space, I had a jettison canister floating about 2000M away and happend to notice said pirate hanging there checking it out. I re-jettison the can and he follows to it, I send him a message... After a few minutes he laughs at me and accuses me of being an alt and as punishment steals all my ore, jettisons it from his ship... and blows it up. Then when 2 of my buddies warp in to the field he bolts like a cowardly pirate and sends me a message saying "Oh your buddy there has played since 2003? See ya later!"
Moral of the Story: Pirates are cowards and I dont like them. They pray on noobs and at the first sign of an experienced player they turn tail and run. Hell thats even listed as a strategy for pirating, how sad. Oh and please dont brag about playing "PvP" you should say you PvN, Player versus Noobs, cuz seems to me you "pirates" avoid the real players.
Good job on the Guide tho Skira it gave me some tips on what to look out for, Ill be saving it for later reference.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.16 08:29:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Skira Ranos on 16/05/2009 08:34:01
Originally by: Drake Omen I just started playing EVE about 4 days ago, within 2 days I had my first run in with a dirty pirate that shall remain nameless. There I was minding my own buisness mining some ore in .5 space, I had a
jettison canister floating about 2000M away and happend to notice said pirate hanging there checking it out. I re-jettison the can and he follows to it, I send him a message... After a few minutes he laughs at me and accuses me of being an alt and as punishment steals all my ore, jettisons it from his ship... and blows it up. Then when 2 of my buddies warp in to the field he bolts like a cowardly pirate and sends me a message saying "Oh your buddy there has played since 2003? See ya later!"
Moral of the Story: Pirates are cowards and I dont like them. They pray on noobs and at the first sign of an experienced player they turn tail and run. Hell thats even listed as a strategy for pirating, how sad. Oh and please dont brag about playing "PvP" you should say you PvN, Player versus Noobs, cuz seems to me you "pirates" avoid the real players.
Good job on the Guide tho Skira it gave me some tips on what to look out for, Ill be saving it for later reference.
Three things:
1: Highlighted your mistake.
2: Can flippers are not pirates.
3: The hunter who hunts for food (or even for pleasure merely) doesn't care how helpless his prey is. Prey is prey. A good fight vs a fair opponent can be great sport when it happens, but no PvPer (be they pirate, merc, can flipper or otherwise) cares if you are a noob or a veteran: You are prey just the same.
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Yazus Kor
Preta Light Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.16 15:41:00 -
[139]
Getting a 404 Error with the online version, and the PDF doesn't seem to want to download. Anyone got a copy of this somewhere?
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2009.05.16 23:44:00 -
[140]
Decent guide [URL=http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=possecrimson2.jpg][/URL] |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2009.05.17 16:11:00 -
[141]
The next review of stickies is due.
I urge you to move this over to the EVElopedia as soon as possible. If it is, it will be added to the resource thread.
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abrasive soap
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 05:47:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 16/05/2009 08:34:01
Originally by: Drake Omen I just started playing EVE about 4 days ago, within 2 days I had my first run in with a dirty pirate that shall remain nameless. There I was minding my own buisness mining some ore in .5 space, I had a
jettison canister floating about 2000M away and happend to notice said pirate hanging there checking it out. I re-jettison the can and he follows to it, I send him a message... After a few minutes he laughs at me and accuses me of being an alt and as punishment steals all my ore, jettisons it from his ship... and blows it up. Then when 2 of my buddies warp in to the field he bolts like a cowardly pirate and sends me a message saying "Oh your buddy there has played since 2003? See ya later!"
Moral of the Story: Pirates are cowards and I dont like them. They pray on noobs and at the first sign of an experienced player they turn tail and run. Hell thats even listed as a strategy for pirating, how sad. Oh and please dont brag about playing "PvP" you should say you PvN, Player versus Noobs, cuz seems to me you "pirates" avoid the real players.
Good job on the Guide tho Skira it gave me some tips on what to look out for, Ill be saving it for later reference.
Three things:
1: Highlighted your mistake.
2: Can flippers are not pirates.
3: The hunter who hunts for food (or even for pleasure merely) doesn't care how helpless his prey is. Prey is prey. A good fight vs a fair opponent can be great sport when it happens, but no PvPer (be they pirate, merc, can flipper or otherwise) cares if you are a noob or a veteran: You are prey just the same.
I disagree with the above.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Yukinagoto on 21/05/2009 15:25:26 I agree.. It's not like everybody who fights under the specific set of circumstances that constitutes as 'pirating' has the same mindset. I don't know if anybody can speak as the spokesman of such a thing because the ideas and thoughts of one player will probably be different than that of the next.
My idea of a pirate is somebody who has to play within the game play mechanics that both lowsec and highsec bind them to.
but, no matter which way you look at it, the word 'pirate' holds no specific meaning in the community other than a slang word referring to somebody who fires at another players ship in lowsec.
It's just pvp.. People put way too much thought into defining these pointless terms and should just play the game for how it is.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.21 20:55:00 -
[144]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal The next review of stickies is due.
I urge you to move this over to the EVElopedia as soon as possible. If it is, it will be added to the resource thread.
So are you removing it or just reviewing it? If removing it, why?
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.24 14:50:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Skira Ranos on 24/05/2009 14:54:50
Mitnal: as much as I liked the idea of EVElopedia to begin with, and initially wished to support CCPs push for it, it seems you all have failed to understand what really makes wiki's work: the contributors MUST do it on their own accord. They are community efforts; when we create pages, we do so to help others, NOT to help the parent corporation that owns the game we love. If you feel EVElopedia is being underutilized, that is no-one's failing but your own.
Forcing people to help you with an ineffective idea is NOT the way to improve it. I don't claim to know what /is/ the best way to improve it, but this certainly isn't it. This, in fact, is one of the best way to alienate otherwise helpful people like myself. I would gladly have ported this over to EVElopedia IN ADDITION to keeping it here, for example. As it is, your blunt, desperate strongarm tactics (barely short of outright bullying) have cause me to rethink my support.
This guide will not be moving over to EVElopedia, and I calmly ask that no one else do so for me. I will find and alternative way to promote it and continue it's existence.
Thank you all for your support thus far, and I am sorry Mitnal. I do not mean for this to be any kind of declaration of war or hostility, merely representative of the fact that I strongly disagree with CCP's underhanded tactics with regards to EVElopedia and I will not bow to them.
-Skira
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Derek Chambers
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.28 12:47:00 -
[146]
This is a great guide....and one of the few I've seen that doesn't discount Caldari or Missles right off the bat as being horrible for PvP, end of discussion.(being a Caldari main I am happy to see this)
Thank you for taking the time to write this and I will definitely be making a donation and hope to talk to you in-game.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.05.31 16:28:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Grek Forto on 31/05/2009 16:28:52 Edit: Keep it sticky forever!
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.31 16:48:00 -
[148]
For a few months I was considering re-writing my original guides from years back, but looking at this, it just keeps getting better and better, and more detailed with every update.
I don't really feel that I need to, given this Guide.
This really is outstanding work, and is by far the most concise and detailed guide for young and upcoming pirates.
I'll be sure to link rookies here in future.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
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Posted - 2009.05.31 17:09:00 -
[149]
Agreed, this is a solid guide for anyone who's looking to get into piracy and I've yet to see one which is better.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 09:42:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Enden Assulu on 06/06/2009 09:42:20 Ohhh:
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Dear players, The sad news is that CCP Mitnal is no longer with us and we wish him all the best in his future endeavors. The good news is that weÆd like to introduce you to CCP Zymurgist who is joining the Community team. Please join us in welcoming him.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Fates United
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Posted - 2009.06.09 00:40:00 -
[151]
Although not a pirate myself, I really -really- enjoyed your guide. It's almost temping me to let out the occasional 'yar' myself.
I'd love to see an updated version :)
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Akina Nidaras
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.11 07:11:00 -
[152]
The link for the online version is 404 ( http://www.eve-fit.co.uk/resources.php?a=piracy ) |
jaybo34
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.16 11:38:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 24/05/2009 14:57:49
Mitnal: as much as I liked the idea of EVElopedia to begin with, and initially wished to support CCPs push for it, it seems you all have failed to understand what really makes wiki's work: the contributors MUST do it on their own accord. They are community efforts; when we create pages, we do so to help others, NOT to help the parent corporation that owns the game we love. If you feel EVElopedia is being underutilized, that is no-one's failing but your own.
Forcing people to help you with an ineffective idea is NOT the way to improve it. I don't claim to know exactly how to improve it, but this certainly isn't it. This, in fact, is one of the best way to alienate otherwise helpful people like myself. I would gladly have ported this over to EVElopedia IN ADDITION to keeping it here, for example. As it is, your blunt, desperate strongarm tactics (barely short of outright bullying) have cause me to rethink my support.
This guide will not be moving over to EVElopedia, and I calmly ask that no one else do so for me. I will find and alternative way to promote it and continue it's existence.
Thank you all for your support thus far, and I am sorry Mitnal. I do not mean for this to be any kind of declaration of war or hostility, merely representative of the fact that I strongly disagree with CCP's underhanded tactics with regards to EVElopedia and I will not bow to them.
-Skira
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Posted - 2009.06.18 16:35:00 -
[154]
Outstanding work mate! A valuable resource for me, thanks!
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Tempo Paradiso
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:42:00 -
[155]
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 19:35:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 24/05/2009 14:57:49
This guide will not be moving over to EVElopedia, and I calmly ask that no one else do so for me. I will find and alternative way to promote it and continue it's existence.
Skira Ranos, I see your reasoning for wanting to keep this thread here. Unfortunately it can not remain a sticky and will be unglued in a week. This thread will not be deleted but I can compromise and put a link to it on the resource thread. This will only be a temporary fix because eventually even that resource thread will be moved over to the EVElopedia. I highly urge you to make a copy of your guide there.
You might like to check out this guide on the EVElopedia to get started on making a new page. There is also a FAQ to help you out.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.06.27 22:40:00 -
[157]
It seems you're filling Mitnal's boots already, Zymurg.
Here's what I don't understand: Why remove stickies at all? Isn't the whole point of a sticky to be important reading that may not be read otherwise? I don't personally know anyone who uses EVElopedia. That means that this guide (which I would argue is important reading) would basically fall in the gutter. Not only has that then defeated the purpose of the sticky to begin with, but it also leaves the EVE community worse off.
I understand the need to remove stickies that no longer attract any interest. That makes sense. But this thread is obviously still alive; it's gotten more than 10,000 views in the last 30 days. That's more than 300 views a day, which is more than most threads get in a week.
My point is that it's stupid to remove an active sticky, CCP policies or not. I'm sure Skira wouldn't mind making a page on EVElopedia as well (he's stated such) provided this link stays where it is. And hey, I'm sure he'd agree that if this sticky becomes inactive you would be within your rights to remove it. But that hasn't happened yet.
You know what? You could start a poll in C&P as to whether this sticky should be removed. Maybe that would show whether it should go or not.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:38:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Enden Assulu on 30/06/2009 23:37:57 I have to say you are showing a wonderfully brilliant disregard for the communities views which is brilliant, thank you for reading our posts and deriving a sensible out come.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.06 14:24:00 -
[159]
This thread is being unstickied. There is a link to it on the resource page so it can still be viewed. If anyone ports this to EVELopedia please post in the resource thread so that link may be added.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.06 14:25:00 -
[160]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This thread is being unstickied. There is a link to it on the resource page so it can still be viewed. If anyone ports this to EVELopedia please post in the resource thread so that link may be added.
Didnt Mitnal (the good mod) already do this?
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.06 22:01:00 -
[161]
I just wanted to say that this was the guide that gave me the confidence to go out into that hell hole that is low sec and begin shooting people. This is really the only thread that deserves to be stickied in C&P (yes that includes the pirate stories thread because its a horrible idea and it doesn't work). Plus as previous people stated its one of the most viewed threads on the forums. Also who is going to go to evelopidia or however you spell it and look for this guide. And finally when all the threads are made about how do you pirate because this guide was removed...well lets just say I told you so.
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Mehira Am'kul
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.07 06:40:00 -
[162]
This guide is the reason I started playing EVE online and I'm having a blast! It's full of inspiration and useful info for the new player.
Thank you Skira
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:42:00 -
[163]
Bump for greatness... sticky would make more sense but noooooooooo.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:52:00 -
[164]
Bump. Put it back where it belongs. De-sticky-ing it just for the sake of following the Official Forum Policy, even when it's against the best interests of the community, is just stupid. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Sabriele
Amarr H.I.V.E.
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Posted - 2009.07.07 18:50:00 -
[165]
DIY sticky.. kinda.
Give this guide more masking tape, its freakin awesome
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:34:00 -
[166]
CCP does what any reasonable company worth its salt does; promote their own things they want promoted. EVEntually people will be info-starved and start use the crappy EVElopedia. Killing off stickies is step one.
The very least thing they could do would be to make it alot easier to access, and better to search. But what the hell am I asking for really, they can't even get the search-function to work on these forums..
Either way this guide deserved a better faith. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Capt Minor
Amarr Minority Crusaders
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:58:00 -
[167]
1. Thx a lot Skira . Its a very good guide. For new as old players. For wannabe pirates, pirates and antipirates as well.
2. EVElopedia is a nice compilation of knowledge and guides about EVE.
3. I think this guide should just keep its sticky and also hopefully be ported to EVElopedia
4. The next bounty I get I will donate to you Skira.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:48:00 -
[168]
Daily bump even though this thread shouldn't require one.
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Kerovan
Gallente Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.08 20:13:00 -
[169]
This is a great read. I am glad I read it back in the day.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:39:00 -
[170]
Bumped up to the top. Come on, people, keep commenting on this thread to keep it at the top. If CCP won't sticky it for us, LET THE PEOPLE DO IT INSTEAD.
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Damian LeRoi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:03:00 -
[171]
Bumpity-Bump. Doing my bit.
This is ..THE.. guide to read and swear by!
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:41:00 -
[172]
we have an evelopidia?,,
oh and da-bumpage for a sticky worthy thread
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:51:00 -
[173]
I dont think people want to use your Evelopedia for everything, fancy that
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Kaz Toffy
Caldari Boom.Roasted
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:08:00 -
[174]
Well this guide is the only reason I actually started playing EvE. Let alone me being a freakin noob I still want to see it at the top...it deserves to stay sticky.
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ALex Vega
Caldari Genesis Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.09 18:35:00 -
[175]
Bring This post up!
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Alexandra Stormwing
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Posted - 2009.07.10 06:09:00 -
[176]
Just came back from a roam with some piratical friends. Bagged an Ishtar, a Drake, a Curse, a Raven, and liberated a second Raven when the pilot ejected and ran for it. I would never have had this kind of fun in Eve without having first been inspired by this guide. Re-sticky, or the kitten gets it.
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Psir
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Posted - 2009.07.10 07:13:00 -
[177]
Bump,
Sticky this again, policies should not be enforced for the sake of enforcing policies.
This is a great guide, in fact it's the only decent one and if CCP truly wants to support new players in grasping the ropes of this game, with its many unspoken ways, then they should re-sticky this thread.
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:12:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Mickey Simon on 10/07/2009 08:14:09 There's so much stuff on these boards that is of the same high quality as the intro to piracy in amongst the crap that makes up the majority of posts.
Would you have them sticky every quality post to make it easier for everyone to find? There's a heap of posts there, it makes far more sense from a UI perspective to have a sticky that categorises the various important posts and links to them. Oh wait, that already exists.
The guide is clearly listed in the sticky that lists guides and CCP have obviously made their choice (which makes a lot of sense, the quality of C&P is terrible enough without having 500 stickies).
Yes, the guide is good. Yes, it deserves to be promoted - as do a number of other guides. No, it doesn't deserve it's own sticky.
The people complaining about it and demanding it be stickied again as it's own sticky really do look like children screaming for candy in the supermarket. Grow up. edit: Yes, a guy who has Hard Gay in his signature is telling you to grow up. Seriously.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:51:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Psir Bump,
Sticky this again, policies should not be enforced for the sake of enforcing policies.
This is a great guide, in fact it's the only decent one and if CCP truly wants to support new players in grasping the ropes of this game, with its many unspoken ways, then they should re-sticky this thread.
This exactly in my opinion. *BUMP!*
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.10 09:04:00 -
[180]
Bump this for stikyness
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P'xel
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.07.10 13:57:00 -
[181]
bump 4 glue
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:30:00 -
[182]
Edited by: RedSplat on 10/07/2009 15:29:45 What do you call a sticky post that isnt actually a sticky?
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:02:00 -
[183]
Posting and You
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.07.10 18:04:00 -
[184]
Great guide, Skira. I'm just so impressed that I'll post here again.
On a side note, let's get some community support for this great guide. It's no longer a sticky, but that doesn't mean it has to fade into oblivion. If we can get fifteen or twenty people to post here every day before they log in, this thread will not die. I'm doing my part (Skira should do his), so what are you waiting for?
Thanks guys. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.10 23:26:00 -
[185]
Whats the stickiest thing in the world
(Not this thread)
A twig.
Click the image! |
Kiev Duran
Caldari Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.11 03:31:00 -
[186]
Bumpage
Originally by: Adaera Caldari special ops "If a problem can't be solved with missiles - you're just not using enough!"
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.11 04:00:00 -
[187]
The orginal guide helped me alot, so another post to support this thread!
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.11 04:49:00 -
[188]
Back up to the top
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gasric
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Posted - 2009.07.12 06:07:00 -
[189]
Very Nice guide. Thumbs up =] |
Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.12 15:35:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Herty Back up to the top
We should follow this example of the *bump!*.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.13 02:46:00 -
[191]
Blimey U Made me Pleased
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:50:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Lady Spank Blimey U Made me Pleased
Confirming that Lady Spank is my number one piratical inspiration, and that this guide is second. Since I want her all to myself, bumping this so that everyone else gets distracted by a treasure trove of good info.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:14:00 -
[193]
I learned how to shoot people from this guide.
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:41:00 -
[194]
get out there and practice!
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.07.13 12:54:00 -
[195]
Good Guide for aspiring pirates
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.07.13 19:48:00 -
[196]
Great guide, Skira. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Havohej
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.07.14 11:44:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Havohej on 14/07/2009 11:44:54
Originally by: RedSplat I dont think people want to use your Evelopedia
I agree, it's pretty poorly done.
Every page I've looked at on it is sloppy, there's no clear path to it from the main EVE webpage/forum and once you get there, it's a chore figuring out how to get back to aforementioned main EVE webpage/forum. It's so horrible, in fact, that whenever I click something and it takes me to an evelopedia page, I immediately hit the browser's BACK button, open a new tab and commence to searching google or eve-search for the information I'm after.
e: Also, this guide is excellent. I wish it'd been there when I was a noob!
"You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.14 16:16:00 -
[198]
great guide, why I could read this every day.
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:56:00 -
[199]
if they resticky this is it still against ccp policy?
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.15 06:30:00 -
[200]
*touches a good thread*
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:45:00 -
[201]
Doing CCP's job because their forum admin sucks at it. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.15 23:17:00 -
[202]
Agreeing with Sera
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Alexandra Stormwing
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Posted - 2009.07.16 04:30:00 -
[203]
After starting my Eve career out in null-sec, I was getting bored. Almost quit. Then I read The Guide. Now I'm having more fun than I ever imagined.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.16 08:10:00 -
[204]
Also agreeing with Merin.
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Bunzan Cardinal
The Artists
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Posted - 2009.07.16 19:55:00 -
[205]
Bumpity bump.....bump
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.17 07:07:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Dasfry on 17/07/2009 07:15:00 Skira Ranos,
I like what you've done. A few small things I would like to point out.
*1 The first sentence says
Under II - I: STRATEGY, TACTICS, AND ATTRITION two ships open fire on each other and whichever one has the most firepower (or the least tank, or some combination of the two) will eventually lose.
The sentence sorta doesn't make scene.
*2 It apparently it is not clear what the different between Tactics & Strategy is i your work.
Tactics are used by FC's during battles. Strategy is used by alliances during wars. Encompassing multiple battles.
*********** Military Tactics Dasfry, CEO Demio's Corporation
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.17 14:06:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Dasfry Stuff
I endeavored to write a helpful post to clear up what ever you were saying, but after hard analysis of the post you have made, my findings lead me to one simple awnser.
æWhat?Æ
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:14:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Lauren Sheaperd
Originally by: Dasfry Stuff
I endeavored to write a helpful post to clear up what ever you were saying, but after hard analysis of the post you have made, my findings lead me to one simple awnser.
æWhat?Æ
I think 'What?' sums it up quite nicely.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.18 08:08:00 -
[209]
Huh? __
Recruiting
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:56:00 -
[210]
Why is this useful thread on the second page, while useless spam threads are on the first page?
Oh yeah, Zymurgist is the worst moderator in the history of forums. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.19 01:53:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Oh yeah, Zymurgist is the worst moderator in the history of forums.
I bet he doesn't make the rules on the forums, he just has to enforce them. Don't hate the moderator - hate the managers!
Oh yeah. This thread is about to slip again. That's a no-no.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.19 10:15:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Oh yeah, Zymurgist is the worst moderator in the history of forums.
I miss Mitnal
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P'xel
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.07.19 12:19:00 -
[213]
top u go
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 01:13:00 -
[214]
Doing my part to keep this alive. __
Recruiting
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.20 03:03:00 -
[215]
Best guide on the forums.
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.20 10:03:00 -
[216]
my today's bump
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Alexandra Stormwing
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.07.20 14:58:00 -
[217]
Bump for the guide that saved my Eve career. High sec missions were boring, null-sec blobs were boring. Decided to give this a try - now I'm addicted.
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Dic Plenty
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:10:00 -
[218]
Thanks for the awesome guide.
Learning how to use the directional scanner has been the best investment of my time so far in game.
Dic
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.20 22:20:00 -
[219]
This is a fantastic resource, ---- LOL @ U Lady Spank |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.21 03:12:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Bongo Debbie This is a fantastic resource,
Seems like you left a thought unfinished. And just in time!
What I think you meant: This is a fantastic resource, it is quite possibly the best pirate guide in Eve. It should remain on the front page, defiant of the poor forum guidelines that want to shush it away to the dark, forgotten corners of the Eve forums.
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Oly B
Doing Wedgie Fun Club
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Posted - 2009.07.21 16:29:00 -
[221]
Great stuff for begginers! Stay on top
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.21 19:39:00 -
[222]
Thread cleaned of some spam. Don't ruin such a nice guide by filling the comments with spam.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.22 04:59:00 -
[223]
In other news, Zymurg randomly deletes all posts by guide author Skira Ranos on the last two pages but leaves most the actual spam alone.
Passive agresive much z? __
Recruiting
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.22 05:13:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Skira Ranos In other news, Zymurg randomly deletes all posts by guide author Skira Ranos on the last two pages but leaves most the actual spam alone.
Passive agresive much z?
Made me lol
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.22 07:42:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Skira Ranos In other news, Zymurg randomly deletes all posts by guide author Skira Ranos on the last two pages but leaves most the actual spam alone.
Passive agresive much z?
Made me lol
Bah, he got rid of some of my posts as well. I miss Mitnal still.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.22 15:32:00 -
[226]
In other news! A constructive post, directed to Skira herself.
There are a few sections in the guide that are as of yet unfinished. Do you have any plans to complete these? I would be willing to send some isk your way. I am not a pirate but I do support pirate organizations - Eve wouldn't be what it is today without dedicated, skilled pirate organizations. Yarrr.
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.22 15:43:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin In other news! A constructive post, directed to Skira herself.
There are a few sections in the guide that are as of yet unfinished. Do you have any plans to complete these? I would be willing to send some isk your way. I am not a pirate but I do support pirate organizations - Eve wouldn't be what it is today without dedicated, skilled pirate organizations. Yarrr.
..so it's profitable to help newbs? Hmm that explains why EVE Uni still goes strong.. and keep attracting vultures. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Havohej
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.07.22 18:24:00 -
[228]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some spam. Don't ruin such a nice guide by filling the comments with spam.
I have an idea. Why don't you represent the wishes of the C&P Community by stickying this thread, Community Representative Zymurgist?
"You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.22 19:08:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Misanth ..so it's profitable to help newbs?
In the long run, yes. It is. Helping out new people means less people frustrated with the learning curve of the game, which means more people stay in the game. More people active in the game means a larger and more active economy, which is good for everyone. If nothing else, more people in game means more people for you to shoot at - or shoot at your own targets.
I support all career paths in Eve, even if I do not personally participate. Additionally, Skira's guide is more than just pirating. It is a great introduction to PvP in general.
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.23 02:20:00 -
[230]
back to the tops
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.23 06:01:00 -
[231]
free bump because this is awesome
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.23 06:26:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Misanth ..so it's profitable to help newbs?
In the long run, yes. It is. Helping out new people means less people frustrated with the learning curve of the game, which means more people stay in the game. More people active in the game means a larger and more active economy, which is good for everyone. If nothing else, more people in game means more people for you to shoot at - or shoot at your own targets.
I support all career paths in Eve, even if I do not personally participate. Additionally, Skira's guide is more than just pirating. It is a great introduction to PvP in general.
What? I just wanted easy isk. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.23 08:58:00 -
[233]
greate guide. Nothing can replace experience but this is a good place to start learning.
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SwankNasTy
The New Kids on the Block United Star Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.23 16:51:00 -
[234]
Thanks for the info I finally feel like I'm learning a bit! |
WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.07.24 04:43:00 -
[235]
I am not a pirate myself, but I learned a lot of things from this guide about PvP in general. It is an excellent resource for anyone starting their PvP career. Maybe one of the moderators could sticky this guide for a while? |
Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.24 12:58:00 -
[236]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some spam. Don't ruin such a nice guide by filling the comments with spam.
If you don't want to see "spam" posts then do your job properly and re-sticky this thread.
So, bump back to the top, because Zymurgist is still the worst moderator in the history of forums. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.07.24 20:27:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Skira Ranos In other news, Zymurg randomly deletes all posts by guide author Skira Ranos on the last two pages but leaves most the actual spam alone.
Passive agresive much z?
One good bump deserves another.
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Ian Morrolan
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.25 14:50:00 -
[238]
An outstanding guide that needs to be on page 1....
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.25 23:26:00 -
[239]
This is a good guide, give it the sticky that it deserves.
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.07.26 03:28:00 -
[240]
I have donated some money to Skira for her efforts, and to promote Quality Piracy.
Though, I suppose it is too much to ask for this donation to be applied towards future ransoms...
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.26 05:56:00 -
[241]
Bump because I'm back.
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General Coochie
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.07.26 16:23:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Piracy costs isk.
OMG!
You failed your own thread with the first three words.
If piracy cost you isk, you are doing it wrong!
Got Cooch?, solo PvP movie
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IAmTheDanceCommander
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Posted - 2009.07.26 17:40:00 -
[243]
I now want to be a pirate
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z0de
Gallente The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.07.26 21:04:00 -
[244]
Originally by: General Coochie
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Piracy costs isk.
OMG! You failed your own thread with the first three words. If piracy cost you isk, you are doing it wrong!
Quoting the truth. PVP may cost isk but piracy certainly doesn't. Piracy makes isk. á á
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Kajan Tormen
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Posted - 2009.07.27 14:52:00 -
[245]
Bumping one of the finest piracy resources out there
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.07.28 02:49:00 -
[246]
Up ye go. __
Recruiting
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.28 03:30:00 -
[247]
Can this be restickied yet?
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Con5tantine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.28 09:51:00 -
[248]
frakkin' awesome guide
bump! -- CBA to care about Carebear whining. Yarr! |
Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.28 13:01:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Kajan Tormen Bumping the finest piracy resource out there
Fixed.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.07.28 13:04:00 -
[250]
Did you honestly just correct some one's spelling?
Mariah Lawsara: do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you? Resdayn: I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.28 17:31:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Resdayn Did you honestly just correct some one's spelling?
You may be interested to know that the corporation "Avengers of the Alphabet" has recently been founded. They are seeking some PvP pilots and will be war-deccing people who display exceptionally poor grammar and spelling.
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.07.28 19:04:00 -
[252]
Is this guide seriously not in the evelopedia yet? I understand its a great resource, but eventually it will stopped getting bumped and be lost forever in the depths of C&P threads.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.07.28 19:57:00 -
[253]
Originally by: g0ggalor eventually it will stopped getting bumped and be lost forever in the depths of C&P threads.
If it wasn't unstickied, it wouldn't have to be bumped. Other guides on the forums have stickies...
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.29 08:04:00 -
[254]
If you would read it, a couple of pages before this one, you would find out why is not stiky
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.07.29 09:24:00 -
[255]
And why I refuse to put in on Evelopedia (or allow anyone else to do so). __
Recruiting
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.29 12:02:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Roastedpot on 29/07/2009 12:02:21
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Other guides on the forums have stickies...
for reals, if the industry forum can have a POS management guide AND a mining guide.. give us at least one guide.. :(
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IAmTheDanceCommander
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Posted - 2009.07.29 12:09:00 -
[257]
Is this just another way Dev's can stamp out piracy?
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Shanur
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.07.29 12:11:00 -
[258]
Ho.....ly!
This guide almost makes PvP look easy! I can not begin to imagine how much work must have gone into it. While information on probing, intelligence gathering and evasion are plentiful, this guide neatly fills in the most glaring gaps other piracy guides have in terms of what kinds of fights you can expect to win and how to actually perform the fight. It's probably not the same as an AU training course, but i hear those have huge waiting lists these days. This guide is exactly what could tide you over during that wait.
Absolutely top quality! Have a free ride back to top.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.30 02:33:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Shanur Ho.....ly!
This guide almost makes PvP look easy! I can not begin to imagine how much work must have gone into it. While information on probing, intelligence gathering and evasion are plentiful, this guide neatly fills in the most glaring gaps other piracy guides have in terms of what kinds of fights you can expect to win and how to actually perform the fight. It's probably not the same as an AU training course, but i hear those have huge waiting lists these days. This guide is exactly what could tide you over during that wait.
Absolutely top quality! Have a free ride back to top.
This basically
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Insurgo Malvir
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Posted - 2009.07.30 06:25:00 -
[260]
Bump to keep this at the top. P.S. Guide is great. Any chance of further improvement of it?
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Sabriele
Amarr H.I.V.E.
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Posted - 2009.07.30 12:30:00 -
[261]
Further improving this guide by keeping it nice and high
I read it as a bedtime story to little children..
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.07.30 21:00:00 -
[262]
3rd edition is in the works. __
Recruiting
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Jack Coutu
Gallente Canada Core
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Posted - 2009.07.31 03:24:00 -
[263]
just one more post to the "sticky" chorus.
do it already.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.07.31 08:34:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Skira Ranos 3rd edition is in the works.
Sweet. The very first guide helped me alot, so this'll be great to see.
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Atreides Horza
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.31 12:02:00 -
[265]
This dog is too old to read all those stuffz - but anything that gets new players out and roaming solo style in space, instead of flying overprices, oversized, underskilled ships in big alliance blobs, gets MY thumbs up - and a nice chunk of ISK too.
Should keep you flying and helping new guys for a while. To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace. - Tacitus |
g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.07.31 16:36:00 -
[266]
Edited by: g0ggalor on 31/07/2009 16:41:47
Originally by: Skira Ranos And why I refuse to put in on Evelopedia (or allow anyone else to do so).
You always did were hard headed :)
You know the guide is stickied. It is in the CnP resource thread.
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.07.31 17:29:00 -
[267]
Thank you for the incredible guide!
By the Golden Throne.. This game is fething hard! But I love it! |
Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.07.31 20:07:00 -
[268]
The more of this guide I read the more I think it should be in the game manual! Thank you Skira!!!!
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.01 03:27:00 -
[269]
Useful threads should be stickied, not on the second page.
PS: fire CCP Zymurgist, the worst moderator in the history of forums. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.01 04:42:00 -
[270]
Edited by: Lauren Sheaperd on 01/08/2009 04:42:24
Originally by: g0ggalor Edited by: g0ggalor on 31/07/2009 16:41:47
Originally by: Skira Ranos And why I refuse to put in on Evelopedia (or allow anyone else to do so).
You always did were hard headed :)
You know the guide is stickied. It is in the CnP resource thread.
You were always stupid, that's why you were kicked. Remember that? So why must you insist on proving it here?
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smurfslayor
Minmatar Ugly 5tick SUBLIME CREATIONS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2009.08.01 04:44:00 -
[271]
bumpage
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Gwydion Voleur
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.01 17:20:00 -
[272]
What's this doing way down at the bottom?
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.01 17:26:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Useful threads should be stickied, not on the second page.
PS: fire CCP Zymurgist, the worst moderator in the history of forums.
a) agree b) agree.. his spirit is good, his knowledge about rules, and his communication skills, is not. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.08.01 19:26:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Lauren Sheaperd Edited by: Lauren Sheaperd on 01/08/2009 04:42:24
Originally by: g0ggalor Edited by: g0ggalor on 31/07/2009 16:41:47
Originally by: Skira Ranos And why I refuse to put in on Evelopedia (or allow anyone else to do so).
You always did were hard headed :)
You know the guide is stickied. It is in the CnP resource thread.
You were always stupid, that's why you were kicked. Remember that? So why must you insist on proving it here?
Actually I remember being booted for being inactive, but if you want to call me stupid for being less than a month old at the time and not understanding how the game works... whatever.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.02 06:59:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Useful threads should be stickied, not on the second page.
PS: fire CCP Zymurgist, the worst moderator in the history of forums.
a) agree b) agree.. his spirit is good, his knowledge about rules, and his communication skills, is not.
Agreed. Can we petition to have him fired, or will there just be nothing in the logs?
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Clam Chowdah
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.03 06:39:00 -
[276]
So who else is excited about version 3.0?
Also, page two is not acceptable up ye go!
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.03 07:13:00 -
[277]
Bumpzor
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Serena Picard
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Posted - 2009.08.03 09:44:00 -
[278]
Thanks for the guide Skira! Up you go bumpity bump!
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.03 13:18:00 -
[279]
This thread officially needs to be at the top!
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Sean Sniper
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.03 14:26:00 -
[280]
just wanted to say thanks, between this, and another piracy guide, I got the stones up to engage a vexor with a tristan yesterday in an 0.4, and win.(this char is 2 days old) vex was fit for missions/salvage, but, I didn't know that Of course, I got so excited that, I blew him up instead of ransoming him
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.08.04 10:16:00 -
[281]
It happened the same to me and my first vexoràthe second one fit a full rack of Warriors 2 and a 24km disruptor. A rifter less but a priceless lesson learned.(check the character age). This guide covers it.
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Amira Kornova
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Posted - 2009.08.04 18:24:00 -
[282]
why isn't this sticky??
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.05 11:12:00 -
[283]
Whats this doing on the second page? __
Recruiting
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Cybelee
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2009.08.05 12:10:00 -
[284]
Verone wears pink panties !!!
If you gonna bump lets do it properly :D
Verone its V2
Sponsored by: Eve Online Fan
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.08.05 15:29:00 -
[285]
Skira mentioned earlier that she is working on an updated version. Any hints as to what might be included? I am willing to work as a proofreader to help with spelling and grammatical errors. Contact me in game if you're interested. I would love to help.
Thanks!
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:35:00 -
[286]
Was way too close to the second page. Wtb a sticky.
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:30:00 -
[287]
Still reading and still learning! Bump!!!
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Cybelee
Caldari Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2009.08.07 10:05:00 -
[288]
Bump
Skira which guide did you write before this one and what was the char it was written under ?
Creator of www.eve-online-fan.co.uk
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.07 22:38:00 -
[289]
This shouldn't be on page 2... __
Recruiting
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.08 01:16:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Skira Ranos This shouldn't be on page 2...
Why was this on the second page? We have been slacking...
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.08 21:50:00 -
[291]
And its on page 2... again. __
Recruiting
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.08 23:38:00 -
[292]
This guide should only be on the 1st page in the sticky place.
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Joshamee Gibbs
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.09 10:57:00 -
[293]
what is this thing doing near the top of the first page?
deary me -------------
http://podlogs.com/enteringspace/ |
Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.09 16:20:00 -
[294]
yikes, almost got back to 2nd page
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Soliscout
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Posted - 2009.08.09 21:09:00 -
[295]
STICKY THIS NOW
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.09 21:40:00 -
[296]
A sticky would be very nice.
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Gwydion Voleur
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.10 12:39:00 -
[297]
Page 2? Not appropriate. Back up you go.
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Cybelee
Caldari Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2009.08.10 12:48:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Cybelee Bump
Skira which guide did you write before this one and what was the char it was written under ?
?
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:50:00 -
[299]
Not sure if you check this thread much Skira, so I'll contact you in game about the offer of editorial assistance.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.11 04:38:00 -
[300]
bump because it was getting a little too far down
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.11 18:22:00 -
[301]
i am disapointed with all of you. back to page 1 good thread of should-be-stickiedness
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.12 02:30:00 -
[302]
too close to the bottom
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.12 02:55:00 -
[303]
I just wanted to thank the author, this is the type of thing I was looking for. _________________________________________________ Warhammer 40k nerd in the EVE universe, whatever is a heretic to do? |
Joshamee Gibbs
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:41:00 -
[304]
second page ftl.
you know what would solve this? a sticky. -------------
http://podlogs.com/enteringspace/ |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.08.13 06:25:00 -
[305]
Skira is awesome, even if she is pounding into your hull with her ever-ready Barrage.
By the way. This thread needs more sticky.
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T'ara
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.13 12:05:00 -
[306]
why is this post no longer stickied?????
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Sophia Truthspeaker
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:06:00 -
[307]
Thanks for the guide, I only found it today
While I think there are other guides out there concerning the directional scanner, I actually refer starting carebears to this guide, so they actually learn what that strange thing does. The overview part is probably also helpful to a lot of people (I didn't read it, overview settings give me a headache). The pdf didn't include anything to being probed out, does the online version have some infos about getting a clue of being probed with the directional scanner? Is there any reason to sit still in a safespot? Why not already align to another safe close to a celestial body and keep on moving? If you can perma run your mwd, it should provide a bit extra distance, in case someone does probe you out? Don't warp to 0 or 100 to any celestial bodies, never warp to moons, if you don't know if there is a pos on the moon. Don't warp to the sun.
Perhaps mention ingrid warping, too? as in, as long as the distance to the fixed object is greater than 150km you can warp to it within the grid?
P.S.: I knew there was an Evelopedia... found it yesterday...
oh and *bump _________
The truth is out there |
Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.14 01:15:00 -
[308]
bump for a great guide
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Gwydion Voleur
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.14 13:53:00 -
[309]
Up you go.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.15 15:42:00 -
[310]
This shouldn't have been on page 2.
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Stefan William
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Posted - 2009.08.16 09:37:00 -
[311]
Not being a sticky is just stupid. |
Chaotic70
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.16 20:00:00 -
[312]
Bump for a great guide. Should be stickied.
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Emeril Lurch
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Posted - 2009.08.16 20:36:00 -
[313]
Sticky...
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.08.17 13:08:00 -
[314]
I would be honored to be ransomed by Skira Ranos.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 03:08:00 -
[315]
Up you go. __
Recruiting
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smurfslayor
Minmatar SUBLIME L.L.C. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2009.08.18 04:26:00 -
[316]
bump |
Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 10:31:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Roastedpot i am disapointed with all of you. back to page 1 good thread of should-be-stickiedness
<3 Your new sig man.
Anyway, I can't wait for a new update Skira. Work harder on it!
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Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
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Posted - 2009.08.18 10:49:00 -
[318]
I like dis -------------------------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.08.18 21:55:00 -
[319]
This thread is now about piracy Haiku.
Skira, our hero She speaks much wisdom; listen Baby pies grow up
A terrible first attempt, but I'm no poet and I know it.
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Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.18 22:09:00 -
[320]
I would be honored To fight Skira to the death I don't pay ransom. _________________________________________________
FOR THE SLAUGHTER! |
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mothyowns
teeny tiny space pirates
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Posted - 2009.08.18 23:47:00 -
[321]
bumpy bump
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/ |
Seven OfMine
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Posted - 2009.08.19 15:51:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin This thread is now about piracy Haiku.
Wasent this thread ALWAYS about piracy? This has been so long running methix people are starting to lose track :P
Yes i DID jump in at the last page, im flabbergasted its still here and cant be botherd to read past the 1st 2 or 3 pages
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:16:00 -
[323]
Sticky no more: Why?Pirates strive to save wisdomMods: What have you done?
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Emeril Lurch
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.20 15:44:00 -
[324]
The mods have done alot, however stupid and/or brilliant. Making this thread a sticky is probably the last thing on their minds, which is however, stupid.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.20 16:22:00 -
[325]
Emeril: This WAS a sticky. They unstuck it. __
Recruiting
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Eddie Monaghan
Caldari Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.20 16:39:00 -
[326]
STICKY!!!!!
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Emeril Lurch
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:45:00 -
[327]
Wow I didn't know they UN-stuck this, that just makes my post x100000000000000 more worth the time took typing it.
And Eddie... why do you keep avoiding my noodle order? Son, I am dissapoint.
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Psir
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:41:00 -
[328]
bump
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Cashima
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:36:00 -
[329]
First post :D letting you know how ridiculously helpful this guide has been, thank you!
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Neckbeard Griefmonger
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:22:00 -
[330]
Blood Money Cartel One ship probing in system fleet warps in and pwns
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Kajan Tormen
Minmatar Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:15:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Neckbeard Griefmonger Blood Money Cartel One ship probing in system fleet warps in and pwns
confirming even we bootcamp-noobs pwn! mostly thanks to this guide
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:38:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Kajan Tormen
Originally by: Neckbeard Griefmonger Blood Money Cartel One ship probing in system fleet warps in and pwns
confirming even we bootcamp-noobs pwn! mostly thanks to this guide
What? I thought it was just because I am so utterly awesome you guys have to be good. >.>
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:44:00 -
[333]
Edited by: Enden Assulu on 21/08/2009 18:44:39 Posting to confirm the awesomeness of above poster and above posters alliance
Click the image! |
grim reaper2012
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Posted - 2009.08.22 04:33:00 -
[334]
ahh, nothin like see'n a wanna be pirate who ive ran outta system just by undockin so many times, post a guide. if its anything like what u teach in ur corp/alliance, ill be disapointed.... drunken fourum post's \o/
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:38:00 -
[335]
Posting to confirm the awesomeness of above 3 out of 4 of the above posters. See if you can figure out which! __
Recruiting
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.08.22 22:48:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Posting to confirm the awesomeness of above 3 out of 4 of the above posters. See if you can figure out which!
Dunno but let this thread die pls ---
I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :( |
HIBillyMaysHere
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Posted - 2009.08.23 08:55:00 -
[337]
HI BILLY MAYS HERE
PIRACY IS WIN.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.23 14:29:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Posting to confirm the awesomeness of above 3 out of 4 of the above posters. See if you can figure out which!
Dunno but let this thread die pls
How could you want this thread to die?!?!?!? I almost voted for you in the csm campaign....
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Clam Chowdah
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.24 07:34:00 -
[339]
I just got to see a sneak preview of 3.0. Its pretty much amazing and the format is a million times better. Only giving it an 11/10 though since its not done yet.
also
Page #2 Seriously guys!
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JManZA
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:20:00 -
[340]
Up! Up I say!
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:12:00 -
[341]
Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 26/08/2009 03:12:50 *bump*
The author is a backstabbing ***hole on an epic scale, but his guide is still more constructive than anything the worst moderator in the history of forums has ever done. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:58:00 -
[342]
This is not about any corp or ingame character...is about a good guide
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Seth0r
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:42:00 -
[343]
Edited by: Set*** on 26/08/2009 14:42:14 nvm lol
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Robin Plunder
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:22:00 -
[344]
still needs to be stickied.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:29:00 -
[345]
Needs to be RE-stickied, you mean.
*Meaningful glare at Zymmurgist* __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.27 04:38:00 -
[346]
bumpage to stop it dropping off the first page.
What have I been up to? |
Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:59:00 -
[347]
Gosh, what a great guide. Too bad it isn't STICKIED... __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.08.28 01:08:00 -
[348]
bump
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Aralieus
Amarr Traumark Logistics
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:17:00 -
[349]
free bump for maximum yarrage exsposure
BTW: Sweet f'n guide
-Ara |
Blutekinder
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Posted - 2009.08.28 20:58:00 -
[350]
whatcha doin down here? good thread to the top ya go
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Joseph Foster
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 09:59:00 -
[351]
Bumping for the sticky-justice...
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cockjuggler
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Posted - 2009.08.29 10:36:00 -
[352]
bump
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RansomList
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Posted - 2009.08.29 10:38:00 -
[353]
great guide, actually makes me want to undock.
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Emeril Lurch
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.30 04:02:00 -
[354]
Ehm. Bump.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:52:00 -
[355]
The crime: de-stickying a thread far more constructive than anything on the first page.
The punishment: fire the worst moderator in the history of forums. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.31 02:10:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin The crime: de-stickying a thread far more constructive than anything on the first page.
The punishment: fire the worst moderator in the history of forums.
How many 14 day vacations does Merin get?!
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.31 08:55:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Sera Ryskin The crime: de-stickying a thread far more constructive than anything on the first page.
The punishment: fire the worst moderator in the history of forums.
How many 14 day vacations does Merin get?!
-Liang
Actually, this one was a 90-day ban, sadly.
Now if only we could just ban the worst moderator in the history of forums... ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Clanrat1
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:24:00 -
[358]
Up again
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:06:00 -
[359]
This is the guide that helps people have fun in New Eden.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:06:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin This is the guide that helps people have fun in New Eden.
But only if it is on the first page where it belongs.
PS: CCP, fire Zymurgist, the worst moderator in the history of forums. ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Zodiac TheMarketRat
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:26:00 -
[361]
I like piracy. It helps me sell more ships.
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Kaz Toffy
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.02 10:13:00 -
[362]
This guide was and still is the only reason I ever started to enjoy EvE...we need an update :) ............ ............
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Chaotic70
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:13:00 -
[363]
Bump because I wanted to show a friend and had to go to page 2. Needs a sticky.
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.09.04 10:03:00 -
[364]
Piracy FTW ! This guide is good enough for the first page IMHO.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.04 15:41:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Zodiac TheMarketRat I like piracy. It helps me sell more ships.
Yes, Piracy is healthy for the economy. I endorse this guide and the actions described, and I hope that more people find inspiration in this amazing work of art.
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.04 17:40:00 -
[366]
With the wiki a barren desert of kinda-sorta content, the forum is really the only place that things like this are found outside big Alliance oligarchies.
No where's that page 1 superglue? NATI. |
Kung'Fu Tzu
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Posted - 2009.09.04 20:26:00 -
[367]
this is moving too far down page 1. Lets go ahead and bump it back up. Wouldn't need to do this if it was still stickied. Seeing as I'm sure that'll likely elicit a forum ban, might as well go all the way. Unstickying it when pretty much the entire Eve community tells you it's the most important thread in the forum is about as intelligent as punching yourself in the face.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.04 23:17:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Kung'Fu Tzu Unstickying it when pretty much the entire Eve community tells you it's the most important thread in the forum is about as intelligent as punching yourself in the face.
What do you expect from the worst moderator in the history of forums? ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.09.05 16:00:00 -
[369]
so industrials are in agreement that piracy helps the eve-conomy. so all the ones that disagreed with me were wrong? because i think they need us.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente.
This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.05 23:22:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux so industrials are in agreement that piracy helps the eve-conomy. so all the ones that disagreed with me were wrong? because i think they need us.
They were wrong. Without pirates, less ships would be destroyed - so there would be less demand. Less people buying ships - less people buying BPCs and minerals. But with MORE pirates, MORE ships get destroyed! So more ships are bought, and so on. It helps everyone in Eve! More BPCs and minerals and everything are needed. It helps everyone, all the way down to the humble newbie with a civilian mining laser.
Piracy. Economic Stimulus that WORKS!
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.07 10:55:00 -
[371]
B-B-B-B-B-BUMP IT!
Inb4 CCPs just trying to help more people be soft targets. NATI. |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:27:00 -
[372]
Up you go. __
Recruiting
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.08 11:16:00 -
[373]
bumped for awesome guide
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:59:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux so industrials are in agreement that piracy helps the eve-conomy. so all the ones that disagreed with me were wrong? because i think they need us.
They were wrong. Without pirates, less ships would be destroyed - so there would be less demand. Less people buying ships - less people buying BPCs and minerals. But with MORE pirates, MORE ships get destroyed! So more ships are bought, and so on. It helps everyone in Eve! More BPCs and minerals and everything are needed. It helps everyone, all the way down to the humble newbie with a civilian mining laser.
Piracy. Economic Stimulus that WORKS!
Quote for truth.
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Lamthara Atropos
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Posted - 2009.09.09 13:06:00 -
[375]
This guide is just amazing.
Gz Skira!
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.09.09 16:11:00 -
[376]
Edited by: Captain Pompous on 09/09/2009 16:12:22 bump
Hoping to spread the word :) ---
I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :( |
Eddie Monaghan
Caldari Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.10 00:21:00 -
[377]
Up you go!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.10 14:22:00 -
[378]
Skira, I was just wondering, what brand of makeup do you use on your face? It's quite stunning!
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.09.12 03:52:00 -
[379]
I found this on page 2. I think it might be important. If only there were another way to keep it on page 1.....
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Abernathy Wallace
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Posted - 2009.09.12 08:58:00 -
[380]
thanks for the guide. Its your fault that i gank noobs now
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Grek Forto
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:40:00 -
[381]
Re-Sticky ffs
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Hull Blaster
Gallente Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.09.14 19:14:00 -
[382]
Friendly bump to the top... needs a sticky
This guide made me do bad things....
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.15 00:02:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Hull Blaster This guide made me do bad things....
If by 'bad things' you mean stimulate Eve's economy. I have heard that Pirate Faction Towers are fueled with salty tears.
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Apple Ginger
Minmatar United Security Services and Resources
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Posted - 2009.09.15 18:47:00 -
[384]
I like to slip in under Andrea Griffin from time to time, although the feathers tickle a bit.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.15 20:11:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Hull Blaster This guide made me do bad things....
If by 'bad things' you mean stimulate Eve's economy. I have heard that Pirate Faction Towers are fueled with salty tears.
And rum
Click the image! |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 03:47:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Apple Ginger I like to slip in under Andrea Griffin from time to time, although the feathers tickle a bit.
Bawk! Confirming that I am indeed a feathery griffin. : >
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smurfslayor
Minmatar SUBLIME L.L.C.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:48:00 -
[387]
bump
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:29:00 -
[388]
For those of you who think that Hawks aren't very good for killing things, I direct you to the Ohio Falconry website, where hawks are used to kill things daily!
Skira, what is your opinion on the use of the Hawk in piracy?
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Zodiac TheMarketRat
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Posted - 2009.09.19 14:29:00 -
[389]
Hawk is Fail (until rockets get a boost).
Up you go!
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.20 02:45:00 -
[390]
Still loving the guide....boost to the top! "Forever More" |
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.21 15:00:00 -
[391]
Alone, in a beltA barge mines rocks, innocent.My guns go Pew Pew!
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Stuart Thomson
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Posted - 2009.09.21 16:48:00 -
[392]
Is solo piracy in low sec possible in cruisers/frigs atm? I havent really played in over a year and everytime i went out to pvp the thing i see now is group or bait with a group waiting.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.21 18:09:00 -
[393]
Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 21/09/2009 18:10:43
Originally by: Stuart Thomson Is solo piracy in low sec possible in cruisers/frigs atm? I havent really played in over a year and everytime i went out to pvp the thing i see now is group or bait with a group waiting.
It takes patience and some luck, but ultiamtely, yes. Solo piracy is indeed possible if you are only flying frigates and cruisers. Stay away from heavily populated systems (obviously). Be prepared to roam a lot for targets.
Low-sec systems that border high-sec can be good choices for hunting, especially if people run missions nearby. Some of the braver types will aceept missions into low-sec space; they can be scanned down and jumped. The nice part here is that they are at a severe disadvantage - they will be PvE fit, and will already be taking damage from mission rats. You likely will need two ships in system if you are doing this - one for scanning and one for killing. The expanded probe launcher can gimp your fitting.
Faction Warfare systems will sometimes have solo plexers. Systems that include low-level static plexes can also attract people. And of course, low-sec ratters and miners can be found but these days too many people dock up as soon as anyone enters system.
Something that I have not tried that may be worthwhile is to scan down exploration sites, cloak up, wait for someone to enter, and engage when they're busy with other things. Has anyone tried this with any amount of success?
Does anyone else have tips and tricks for finding targets when solo? Maybe Skira can include them in her guide.
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.09.22 02:24:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Solo piracy is indeed possible if you are only flying frigates and cruisers. Stay away from heavily populated systems (obviously). Be prepared to roam a lot for targets.
Actually, I am more inclined to switch over to a T1 frigate or cruiser precisely when going to a heavily populated system. In a lower-paced system, I fear less for my T2 ships.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.09.22 11:38:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Low-sec systems that border high-sec can be good choices for hunting, especially if people run missions nearby. Some of the braver types will aceept missions into low-sec space; they can be scanned down and jumped. The nice part here is that they are at a severe disadvantage - they will be PvE fit, and will already be taking damage from mission rats. You likely will need two ships in system if you are doing this - one for scanning and one for killing. The expanded probe launcher can gimp your fitting.
This is where the wonderful "POWER OF TWO" offer from CCP can come in handy, that or you just attempt to switch ships after getting a warpable probe hit.
My noobish Khanid Pirate blog: http://helicityboson.blogspot.com/ |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.22 16:09:00 -
[396]
A really nice thing is that some ships can be fit to be an 'all in one' package deal - though I'm not really sure that it is for "beginning piracy" since this guide deals with T1 frigates. Might be worth a mention, though.
Battle cruisers are good for this since they have a utility high anyways, or some recons (I have an expanded probe launcher Pilgrim, <3), etc. You lose a slot which could be used for a neut or something, but it does allow you to find more targets. That's always a bonus. The surprise factor alone can be worth it, since people in safe spots are often doing something else (or may even be AFK!).
"My Safe Spot is Safe."Probes Fired. Wait. Target Found."Surprise! How are you?"
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.23 01:44:00 -
[397]
Why is this on the second page? Is the sticky system broken or something? Should I report the issue to CCP's bug-fixing team? ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
* Your signature is locked due to violating forum rules. Please file a petition once you have an appropriate signature - Fallout |
Scythe Axattax
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Posted - 2009.09.23 07:26:00 -
[398]
**Bump**
This really does need stickying, excellent guide for new pvp'ers
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S1W
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:55:00 -
[399]
Thank you Skira for this guide. After missioning and mining in hisec for 7ish weeks and finding them a less than exciting pay to play experience, I was ready to give this game away.
The guide inspired me to head to lo sec in a Rifter and unleash hell in a brand new character. Ive had more hell unleashed on me than the other way around, but Ive had plenty of fights in the last week, have won a few, lost most.
Ive learned how to scan, how to use safespots, and how to play with fits. I was always wary of lo sec as I had been podded a couple of times as a noob, and the forums always seemed to say it was a deathtrap and free of reasonable unblobbed fights. Ive found this not to be the case and have been able to use Local to my advantage, and pick my fights. I gave my new character a starting seed of 5 mill so i didnt have to mission, and he has been self sufficient since, living off ransoms, loot and lols.
Ive met some other pirates, and had several whales of fun. More importantly, ive been actually interacting with the other denizens of New Eden, instead of grinding NPC missions.
My next ransom is coming your way, thanks again.
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Kainso
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Posted - 2009.09.24 01:04:00 -
[400]
2nd page? NO SIR.
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Clam Chowdah
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.24 08:14:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Why is this on the second page? Is the sticky system broken or something? Should I report the issue to CCP's bug-fixing team?
Yeah it keeps falling to the second page, do the Bug Hunters deal with forums because there's defiantly an issue with this post's sticky?
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.25 02:38:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Clam Chowdah
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Why is this on the second page? Is the sticky system broken or something? Should I report the issue to CCP's bug-fixing team?
Yeah it keeps falling to the second page, do the Bug Hunters deal with forums because there's defiantly an issue with this post's sticky?
You would think a company with as much income as CCP would be able to afford proper forum software so that important threads don't keep dropping onto the second page. ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
* Your signature is locked due to violating forum rules. Please file a petition once you have an appropriate signature - Fallout |
S1W
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Posted - 2009.09.25 03:04:00 -
[403]
If only there was some way of keeping this topic on the first page.
If only.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.25 17:13:00 -
[404]
Originally by: Clam Chowdah Yeah it keeps falling to the second page, do the Bug Hunters deal with forums because there's defiantly an issue with this post's sticky?
I'm not very familiar with ASP, but I would be willing to learn enough to look into this issue pro bono so that CCP can have better forum software.
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.25 17:58:00 -
[405]
In ur thread doing my part for page1. NATI. |
Bunzan Cardinal
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.25 23:58:00 -
[406]
what is this doing down here?
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.09.26 19:43:00 -
[407]
That annoying bug seems to be happening again. ==========
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
* Your signature is locked due to violating forum rules. Please file a petition once you have an appropriate signature - Fallout |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.26 23:32:00 -
[408]
Up to the top again. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.28 14:39:00 -
[409]
Best guide in Eve.
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Bunzan Cardinal
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.29 01:11:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Up to the top again.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.29 09:19:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Bunzan Cardinal
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Up to the top again.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:22:00 -
[412]
What is the worst assault frigate for piracy?
I vote for the Retribution, since it has only one mid slot. Your choice: Speed, Tackle, or Cap Boosting, you only get one!
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Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.29 19:23:00 -
[413]
Guide for the win! Back to the top!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.30 01:24:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin What is the worst assault frigate for piracy?
I vote for the Retribution, since it has only one mid slot. Your choice: Speed, Tackle, or Cap Boosting, you only get one!
Hawk is much worse. Piracy requires actually doing enough damage to get your opponent below 99% shield HP to convince them to give up the ransom money. Since the Hawk with is roflkets is not able to do this, the Hawk is by far the most useless. At least with a Retribution, you might be able to bluff it and make them think they're scrambled when they really aren't.
Also, this needs to be back on the first page. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.09.30 05:41:00 -
[415]
No way. Hawk does awesome DPS and the tank is great! Here is how I fly my hawk, ALL THE TIME.
[Hawk, Best Hawk] Vepas' Modified Ballistic Control System Vepas' Modified Ballistic Control System
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Amarr Navy Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150 Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier
Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Gallente Navy Light Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Small Core Defence Operational Solidifier II
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.30 07:31:00 -
[416]
You know what's really hilarious? Ignore the blaster dps, and that Hawk gets out-ganked by a Kestrel:
[Kestrel, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Overdrive Injector System II
1MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Bay Loading Accelerator I Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot]
On the subject of piracy: I would love to fight that Hawk. Please buy it and bring it to a convenient lowsec system so I can test how awesome it is in PvP. -----------
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Baron Agamemnon
Caldari Holy Grail Construction
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Posted - 2009.09.30 07:53:00 -
[417]
This was indeed a nice guide, I read it the first time I got into PVP!
Before I read it I had met a few failed attempts (not due to ship fit, but more to not knowing the meta game and about scanning etc). Like loosing my Moa to a nano Vage and a Myrm.
Then I got hold of the guide, I got into a Rifter, and went out to blow **** up. Now with the knowledge of scanning and some other mechanincs.
To my supprise, I met a lot of success, and yes, in some low secs there is tons of noobs and other would-be-pirates that got no clue. But in a T1 frig you are limited to what you can engage if you do not have a lot of experience.
Here is ony of my most fun kills from the start of my PVP days:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=5557298
We engage a Navy Vexor at a planet along with another ship that we blew up, the Vexor kills my two mates, but my Rifter he can not hit. And for some reason he persist in trying to kill it with Ogre IIs .
After I had broken his tank my mate came back and stole my final blow . This was the passive shield tanked rifter I belive from the guide. Not really that good a ship, but as a noob ship it worked well since you had more tank. I eventually moved on to nano rifters and now I fly other bigger ships (and Rail Harpy among others). But still good times to be had in a Rifter.
However, a Rifter will die easily enough to competent PVPers, so its not an iWin button, just a pretty damn strong frigate for a T1. Used right, with enough boldness, you will have fun in one tho!
But I agree with Merin, I find Hawks very lacking. After trying to make a fit for it I come out with a Harpy every time .
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=5524913
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.01 01:50:00 -
[418]
Whats this doing all the way down here? __
Recruiting
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Rafter Man
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Posted - 2009.10.01 05:23:00 -
[419]
its dying in a fire because it sucks.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.01 14:51:00 -
[420]
Originally by: Rafter Man its dying in a fire because it sucks.
So, remind me again just what guides you have contributed to EVE? What have you done to justify the storage space used by your pathetic excuse for a character? What makes you think you deserve the honor of posting in a thread that is far more productive than anything you have done, or ever will do?
Yeah, that's what I thought. The unsubscribe button is waiting, go introduce yourself to it. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.01 19:11:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Rafter Man its dying in a fire because it sucks.
It's a great guide, but if you have some specific criticisms, then now would be a good time to air them since Skira is working on some updates (I think). By all accounts, Skira is a cool person and would likely enjoy some suggestions.
Also, bump for the guide that keeps on giving!
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L0ngcat
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Posted - 2009.10.02 11:59:00 -
[422]
*bumb* had to go to the 2nd page.. notgood, needs to be stickyd
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.02 18:26:00 -
[423]
Originally by: L0ngcat *bumb* had to go to the 2nd page.. notgood, needs to be stickyd
Confirming that long cat is long, and that this guide should be stickied. I find it to be something of a double-standard, since there are other player guides that have their own stickies.
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Ezeon
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Posted - 2009.10.04 01:18:00 -
[424]
This is a good guide.
Bump to first page.
(How is this bug still happening after several years?)
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royal killer
Amarr Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.04 03:27:00 -
[425]
Maybe a hint to add on the guide, if fitted for a remote repping set up, warp in at the same range and stay within range of each other so you don't get your arses whooped in like 3 minutes --------------------
*ding ding!*
Wrangler: Hello and w
*ding ding!*
Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners. |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.05 10:05:00 -
[426]
Whats this doing down here? __
Recruiting
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.05 17:30:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Whats this doing down here?
Words from the goddess herself.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.06 12:51:00 -
[428]
Up ye go. __
Recruiting
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:45:00 -
[429]
Worthless spam on the first page while this is on the second page? Unacceptable. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:21:00 -
[430]
I would like to reiterate my offer to fix the forum software, pro bono, so that Sticky works again.
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Gwydion Voleur
Gallente The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.10 17:04:00 -
[431]
Page 3? Nope.
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Random Excess
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.11 15:00:00 -
[432]
And still it's not fixed. Seriously CCP, forget Dust 90210 or whatever it is and fix yer stickies!
Yarr!!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.12 03:12:00 -
[433]
Confirming that Skira Ranos is an inspiration to us all.
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Dic Plenty
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Posted - 2009.10.12 11:31:00 -
[434]
Great guide.
to the top, where it belongs.
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.13 08:31:00 -
[435]
2nd page? Methinks not.
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Ren Miloja
Unholy Asylum
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Posted - 2009.10.14 06:23:00 -
[436]
Bump
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.14 22:49:00 -
[437]
Bump. -----------
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Clam Chowdah
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.15 05:39:00 -
[438]
Hmm, for some reason the sticky is broke, maybe CCP should replace their forum moderation software, the last one did quite well. I can't believe such a valuable resource such as this guide isn't readily available, so much for the "new player experience" I guess.
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Jugurtha Karad
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.15 13:20:00 -
[439]
Nice guide, give it a sticky for heaven's sake.
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.16 11:05:00 -
[440]
Time for le daily bump
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.16 16:20:00 -
[441]
Yarrr! Some Inspiration for ye!
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:08:00 -
[442]
Up ye go. __
Now Recruiting Both Vets and Rookies
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Thrista Korvinus
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Posted - 2009.10.17 03:52:00 -
[443]
i totally applaude you for the time and effort in this guide. coming for a new player looking into the pirate way this has been the biggest help and a bigger inspiration for continuing my path to the dark side. wish this forum would sticky this!!!!!!!!!!!!! if it hadnt been for this i prolly would have gone away from the pirate side and maybe even the game itself. HUGE THUMBS UP! look forward to the completion of the guide.
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Clanrat1
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Posted - 2009.10.17 21:44:00 -
[444]
Shouldn't be down here.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.18 03:44:00 -
[445]
keep it up guys, har har pun intended. __
Now Recruiting Both Vets and Rookies
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.10.18 05:25:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Skira Ranos keep it up guys, har har pun intended.
That's what SHE said!
No, really, that's what Skira said.
Any updates on the guide update, Skira? I sent you some money a while back. I demand, at the very least, that you come ransom me or something.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.18 13:38:00 -
[447]
Slowly working on updates... its hard to manage real life, a PvP video production (don't expect too much, I'm a noob at video editing), managing the alliances big new recruitment drive, etc etc and write what basically amounts to a small manuscript of PvP revisions.
I mean usually people get 6+ months of dedicated work to write 60+ page research papers, right? *sigh*. __
Now Recruiting Both Vets and Rookies
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.19 13:22:00 -
[448]
And, thus, the topic was bump'd.
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.10.20 17:13:00 -
[449]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Slowly working on updates... its hard to manage real life, a PvP video production (don't expect too much, I'm a noob at video editing), managing the alliances big new recruitment drive, etc etc and write what basically amounts to a small manuscript of PvP revisions.
I mean usually people get 6+ months of dedicated work to write 60+ page research papers, right? *sigh*.
Very true, sounds like you have quite a bit on your plate at the moment. Though, I'm sure that if you wanted some assistance people would gladly give you some of their time.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.21 09:53:00 -
[450]
Thinking about doing something along those lines ghost... __
Now Recruiting Both Vets and Rookies
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Shinjo Bajahnhosuu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.10.22 19:35:00 -
[451]
Oh no. This will not do.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.23 20:42:00 -
[452]
And back to the top. -----------
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Tristan Acoma
Caldari Dirah Dominion Dirah Dominion.
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Posted - 2009.10.23 21:40:00 -
[453]
Bumpity Bump Bump |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.24 08:42:00 -
[454]
This is way too low... __
Now Recruiting Both Vets and Rookies
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Ob'lisk
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Posted - 2009.10.24 22:37:00 -
[455]
So I am still reading the 3rd page and continuing, but I had to ask: How exactly do you defeat drones when in a T1 Frigate? Can you? And if so what are some of your methods?
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.25 06:48:00 -
[456]
Originally by: Ob'lisk So I am still reading the 3rd page and continuing, but I had to ask: How exactly do you defeat drones when in a T1 Frigate? Can you? And if so what are some of your methods?
You don't. If you run into a ship with max-skill T2 light drones, you die. Check character age in local and avoid players and ship types which are likely to have them.
On the other hand, low-skill drones can simply be shot and destroyed. Kill the drones first unless you are very confident in your ability to gank the ship before its drones can finish you off. -----------
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Zavulon Sukkot
Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.10.26 14:46:00 -
[457]
How strange. I had to scroll a couple pages down to find this thread. I thought it was supposed to be sticky? NATI. |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.26 21:50:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Ob'lisk So I am still reading the 3rd page and continuing, but I had to ask: How exactly do you defeat drones when in a T1 Frigate? Can you? And if so what are some of your methods?
If it is a full flight of light drones, especially T2, you're going to go down pretty quickly. What Merin says above is pretty much true - drones are the bane of frigates, avoid drone ships like the plague, especially since many of them forgo guns for cap warfare.
However, if it is just two or three drones, and especially if the character has poor drone skills, you can attempt to web the drones and shoot them down. Drones pop fairly quickly. If that was the ship's primary source of damage, you're in the clear at that point.
Sometimes, shooting a drone will cause the other pilot to pull them all in for fear of losing them. Believe it or not, people will do this even with T1 drones which are essentially free. It's worth a try, you just may get lucky. Bringing friends helps a lot too - if you have 2-3 frigates, and you primary the drones, you may be able to pop them before they have the chance to do too much damage.
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Happy San
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.10.27 09:58:00 -
[459]
The bumping of this thread coincides with my interests.
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:08:00 -
[460]
Originally by: Happy San The bumping of this thread coincides with my interests.
Quotin' dis bastard. ----
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:41:00 -
[461]
what are you doing thread why are you on page two you don't even belong here
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Shinjo Bajahnhosuu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.10.28 21:17:00 -
[462]
Boiiing.
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Otto Lilienthal
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Posted - 2009.10.29 20:22:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Happy San The bumping of this thread coincides with my interests.
Quotin' dis bastard.
Quotin' dis bastard quotin' dat bastard.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.10.29 23:21:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Ob'lisk So I am still reading the 3rd page and continuing, but I had to ask: How exactly do you defeat drones when in a T1 Frigate? Can you? And if so what are some of your methods?
Generally, Merin is dead right on this one. That said, I've watched a friend kill a fairly skilled arbitraitor in his Rifter. The thing is, if they have good drone skills you die, and if they're doing anything ELSE to you (neuting, they have missiles and they're hitting, small guns etc) while you're trying to manage their drones, you lose. __
Now Recruiting
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L0ngcat
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Posted - 2009.11.01 22:35:00 -
[465]
nice
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.02 16:07:00 -
[466]
Originally by: L0ngcat nice
Confirming that l0ngcat is long, and that this thread longs to have an adhesive substance applied to it.
Since Merin and Skira and some other well-known pirate types are watching this thread (and it is good to inject some real discussion from time to time), how do you go about finding targets? It seems that some people are able to find targets very redily, while others (such as myself) often wander for long stretches of time without finding anything at all - and not from a lack of wanting to engage (sometimes I'm so desperate for action that I'm willing to engage anything, even if it is suicidal to do so. And no, Jericho Steele, that doesn't mean what you think it means!).
Is it just a matter of luck and a function of time spent, or are there some tricks of the trade that seem to help?
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.03 08:24:00 -
[467]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 03/11/2009 08:25:46
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: L0ngcat nice
Confirming that l0ngcat is long, and that this thread longs to have an adhesive substance applied to it.
Since Merin and Skira and some other well-known pirate types are watching this thread (and it is good to inject some real discussion from time to time), how do you go about finding targets? It seems that some people are able to find targets very redily, while others (such as myself) often wander for long stretches of time without finding anything at all - and not from a lack of wanting to engage (sometimes I'm so desperate for action that I'm willing to engage anything, even if it is suicidal to do so. And no, Jericho Steele, that doesn't mean what you think it means!).
Is it just a matter of luck and a function of time spent, or are there some tricks of the trade that seem to help?
Scouts and/or fast tacklers. This gives you the best of both worlds, you get the ability to avoid scaring off a target by only entering local with a covert ops cloaked positive-security character followed by a frigate/inty/AF tackler, but you also get the firepower of the best possible ship(s) you can bring to the fight. Hold the kill ship/gang on a gate into the target system while your scout and/or tackler find and pin down the target. As long as the tackler can survive long enough for the other ship(s) to get there, it makes things much easier.
Also, it helps to be willing and able to engage rival pirates/FW gangs/etc. The lone carebear ratting cluelessly in a belt can be somewhat rare, but you can always find other PvPers to gank. For example, if you have the ships to do so, why not break up a gatecamp? You can't really ransom since the victims will jump out if you wait too long, but the loot can be very good and the targets will always be blinking red (or in 0.0) so sentry fire won't be an issue for once. -----------
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.11.03 14:07:00 -
[468]
You. Thread. Back to page 1.
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Vetis Koball
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Posted - 2009.11.04 04:20:00 -
[469]
Hi Skira
Are you recruiting at the moment? I have been playing around a month in a mainly PVE/industry corp and it's starting to bore the hell out of me. Think a life of Yar is my calling.
Rolled a new character, other one doesn't look nearly pirate enough. Planning to keep him as a hauler/emergency ISK maker.
If you still recruiting new characters I would love to talk to you guys
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.11.04 09:06:00 -
[470]
Edited by: Fumitsugu on 04/11/2009 09:07:09
Originally by: Vetis Koball Hi Skira
Are you recruiting at the moment? I have been playing around a month in a mainly PVE/industry corp and it's starting to bore the hell out of me. Think a life of Yar is my calling.
Rolled a new character, other one doesn't look nearly pirate enough. Planning to keep him as a hauler/emergency ISK maker.
If you still recruiting new characters I would love to talk to you guys
Recruitment closed last week, but it should reopen by the end of November. Just take that new character and try and lower his sec status as much as possible in the mean time.*
*in order to see if you like it before you commit to a life of crime.
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.11.04 15:28:00 -
[471]
I'm not a pirate, but I did find this to be the best beginner's PvP guide in Eve. CareBears who want to explore low-sec should give it a read as well, since it will give hints on staying safe. Should be given a sticky.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.05 18:34:00 -
[472]
Up, up, and away.
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Mark Louis
Minmatar Cartel Assessment Branch The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.06 21:47:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Vetis Koball Hi Skira
Are you recruiting at the moment? I have been playing around a month in a mainly PVE/industry corp and it's starting to bore the hell out of me. Think a life of Yar is my calling.
Rolled a new character, other one doesn't look nearly pirate enough. Planning to keep him as a hauler/emergency ISK maker.
If you still recruiting new characters I would love to talk to you guys
Also, hang out in BloodM. Public :) We hang out in there.
I too was in your position. Shooting rocks and running missions is the yawn. They were closed when I was interested, but I was given the same advice Fumi gave you... just jump in.
Load up some rifters, and go. You will lose ALOT. But you will learn ALOT too. Don't be afraid to try something new, and just go out and have fun :) If you can't afford, do as I do... sell GTC's. One GTC sell will last you a few months worth of well fitted Rifters. And isk/hour.. I would much rather work an hour at my real job and spend that on a $35 gamecard and sell, than spend many hours on an alt shooting rocks. I play EVE to have fun :) Not to work a second job :)
I believe recruitment reopens on Nov 17, and the next wave of recruits will be accepted in the corp Dec 1. Good luck! Stay safe!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.08 03:29:00 -
[474]
Bump. -----------
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Ampd Up
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Posted - 2009.11.08 18:59:00 -
[475]
Where is the sticky at? =\
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Mark Louis
Minmatar Cartel Assessment Branch The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.09 15:29:00 -
[476]
Up, up and away!
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.11.09 16:27:00 -
[477]
Confirming that Skira Ranos is awesome, and that this guide is the best introduction to piracy available in Eve. It should be stickied. I believe that this guide is the most read guide in all of Eve. Version 2.1 on Eve Files has been downloaded over 23,000 times!
I eagerly await the revised edition. If there is something that I can do to help - proofreading, help with formatting, etc. - please let me know.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.09 17:54:00 -
[478]
BUMMING THIS THREAD
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 19:33:00 -
[479]
This thread should be sticky again.
HI AVAN -----
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Tristan Acoma
Caldari Dirah Dominion Dirah Dominion.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 21:47:00 -
[480]
Bumping in honor of Lady Spank.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.11.09 22:11:00 -
[481]
This may seem like a bump. It is not.
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L0ngcat
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Posted - 2009.11.10 09:30:00 -
[482]
i needed something from here, and i had to go to 2nd page... that cant be real.
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Alexandra Stormwing
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.11.10 18:53:00 -
[483]
Started in high sec. Target rat, shoot rat. Bored me to tears. Moved to null-sec, solo for a while, then joined an alliance. Bored to tears. Found Skira's guide. Now when flying about, I get my Yarrr on and have a great time. That's right, Skira Ranos has single-handedly kept me in Eve. Guide should be re-stickied.
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Tristan Acoma
Caldari Dirah Dominion Dirah Dominion.
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Posted - 2009.11.10 22:57:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Alexandra Stormwing That's right, Skira Ranos has single-handedly kept me in Eve. Guide should be re-stickied.
Skira Ranos for CSM?
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.11 08:31:00 -
[485]
CSM? hmm __
Now Recruiting
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.12 03:26:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Skira Ranos CSM? hmm
May be interesting. There aren't many people for whom I would vote - but Skira would be worth consideration.
Oh, and bumping the guide that should be stickied.
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Obscvra
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.12 13:20:00 -
[487]
ok i'm noobs in EVE, but i think this guide is a very good work.... i have a little question: can be possible play only as bounty hunter or (especially for a newbie) is better make before Pirates or Mercs?
sry if this reveal stupid question, but when i wrote noob i mean i have only 300k Sp (very newbie)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.13 23:29:00 -
[488]
Bump.
Also, the Bounty system is pretty broken in Eve right now. Being a bounty hunter, using the in-game bounty system, isn't really feasible. Anyone with a large enough bounty will just jump into an implant-free clone, and get an alt or a corp mate to pop them.
That said, you can always try to be something of a mercenary instead. You get paid by the corpse. Not sure how well that would work, though.
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Obscvra
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.14 12:05:00 -
[489]
ty for info... ok i try another way... ;)
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.11.16 10:13:00 -
[490]
Yes, shame about the bad bounty system. It could use some love in order to make bounty hunting and anti-piracy a viable career. Something like FW; a special corporation with LP and ISK payouts based on the security status of the guys you pop. Ho hum. Bounty hunter ships...think of the possibilities :) They would be superlative pirate ships too.
Anyway, bump for the guide, it's a good read that should be stickied so that budding ne'er-do-wells can get their greasy mitts on it more easily. Man up CCP, apply the glue and say you're sorry.
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Zavulon Sukkot
Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:03:00 -
[491]
wth is this thread doing on page 2? bump! NATI. |
Strange Kid
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:41:00 -
[492]
Good guide, had a lot of fun and made my first ransom after a fair lot of effort.
Flew a gank PST rifter, tried to point battlecruisers for ransom vs. release, finally found an afk pod and ransomed for 100M. No more mining for the corp op hulk :)
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Kurann
Amarr Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:06:00 -
[493]
to the top I say!
apparently they ran out of glue in Iceland... --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.11.17 12:53:00 -
[494]
It IS stickied actually. Twice Check out the C and P resource thread...
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.17 22:39:00 -
[495]
*coughbumpcough* __
Now Recruiting
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.11.20 00:53:00 -
[496]
Bumping so all the 0.0 players fleeing CCP's disaster of a patch will be able to find a guide to lowsec. ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Bootleg Greg
Minmatar CHILL Industries HORSE-KILLERS
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Posted - 2009.11.20 18:33:00 -
[497]
Excellent guide!
It has a lot of stuff that I try to push on my noobies.
I will make my carebears read this guide, saving me time.
And for that, you get 10m coming your way my friend.
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S1W
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Posted - 2009.11.22 22:49:00 -
[498]
Go ahead and bump.
BUMP!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.23 15:43:00 -
[499]
I just bumped into this thread and had to pay Skira 25m in ransom!
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.11.24 07:23:00 -
[500]
It's a good thing this thread isn't sticked, eh?
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.11.25 13:48:00 -
[501]
Confirming the excellence of this guide.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.11.25 16:09:00 -
[502]
Just talked to a new pilot interested in blowing stuff up. Aren't they the best?
Pointing him to this guide, because it is a one-stop-shop to an incredible wealth of information. Also, being on the front page will help him find it because, let's face it, those resource threads are rarely looked at.
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Gwydion Voleur
Gallente The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.27 00:57:00 -
[503]
Up you go.
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Kurann
Amarr Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.27 17:22:00 -
[504]
this doesn't belong here....
topside ye go! --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Vonlin
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.27 22:13:00 -
[505]
Nice guide.
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Clanrat1
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Posted - 2009.11.29 11:21:00 -
[506]
Wrong page.
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Bfoster
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:28:00 -
[507]
Too many new players asking about pvp. This thread needs a sticky!
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My Killboard- The Python Cartel |
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.01 02:00:00 -
[508]
Originally by: Bfoster This thread needs a sticky!
Originally by: Clanrat1 Wrong page.
QFT. ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.12.01 17:53:00 -
[509]
There must be a glitch in the forum software, stickies aren't supposed to be on page 2
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Solytude
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Posted - 2009.12.02 12:00:00 -
[510]
hello well i've read all ur guide from head to toe wich is very entusiastic and amusing :) i'm just a noob with 1.3mil SP wich is nothing got alot to learn and i love that piracy live however i'm afraid of ISk income and i hope i can talk with author thru eve mail ;) got piracy 101 now i need adv piracy 101 after i setup the goals :) hope i can live as apirate just like u and maybe some pirates corps guidelines? who knows? well ty for sharing ur huge experience in piracy :)
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Kurann
Amarr Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:47:00 -
[511]
so this one time, I read a guide that was awesome, then I couldn't find it
WTB Glue --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Lo'ken
Cartel Assessment Branch The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.03 00:55:00 -
[512]
What's this doing down here?
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Jarik Utoni
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.03 02:00:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Solytude hello well i've read all ur guide from head to toe wich is very entusiastic and amusing :)
that sounds really strange actually ---- -Jarik Utoni, Cov Ops Pilot (in training) d(^.^)b |
Solytude
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Posted - 2009.12.03 06:31:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Jarik Utoni
Originally by: Solytude hello well i've read all ur guide from head to toe wich is very entusiastic and amusing :)
that sounds really strange actually
lawl? y? xD
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.05 04:55:00 -
[515]
Originally by: Lo'ken What's this doing down here?
I have no idea, but I am fixing the problem. ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Cpt NathanC
Minmatar Black Talon Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 05:36:00 -
[516]
Very helpful guide for those following the ways of the Yarr. And why ain't it stickied?
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Achura Morachu
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Posted - 2009.12.06 13:18:00 -
[517]
Up you go!
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.07 09:36:00 -
[518]
And where, may I ask, is the Piracy tutorial agent in the new expansion? When she does get introduced I'm thinking we call her Sk1ra Ran0s. Thoughts?
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:44:00 -
[519]
Bump __
Now Recruiting
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:41:00 -
[520]
What's this doing on page 2? __
Now Recruiting
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Scion Filiam
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Posted - 2009.12.11 01:33:00 -
[521]
This one time, at Pirate camp ....
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Sk1ra Ran0s
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Posted - 2009.12.11 10:02:00 -
[522]
pew pew, gonna put it on you!
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:16:00 -
[523]
Way too close to the second page.
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Gwydion Voleur
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.12 15:11:00 -
[524]
Up. |
Penpin Pittle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.12 16:42:00 -
[525]
Great guide, good for non pirates too. Gives an insight into what them dastardly YARers are doing.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.13 23:45:00 -
[526]
Up where you belong!
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.14 05:52:00 -
[527]
Hey Skira, are you going to update the guide soon? You seem to be missing the section about how to run away and move your entire corp to another system at the slightest hint of competition or PvP. Thanks! -----
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Fumitsugu
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.14 07:05:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Spectre3353 Hey Skira, are you going to update the guide soon? You seem to be missing the section about how to run away and move your entire corp to another system at the slightest hint of competition or PvP. Thanks!
Wassat? Last time I checked I was still here.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.14 11:01:00 -
[529]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 14/12/2009 11:01:07
Originally by: Spectre3353 Hey Skira, are you going to update the guide soon? You seem to be missing the section about how to run away and move your entire corp to another system at the slightest hint of competition or PvP. Thanks!
Basic rule of piracy: territory is meaningless. If the territory is no longer profitable, abandon it and move somewhere that is. That means if a rival pirate corp shows up and you can't decisively smash them and force them to run, you find some place with a better carebear to threat ratio.
Of course there are plenty of other reasons why he sucks, but refusing to stand and fight is not one of them.
(Also: bump!) ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.14 14:33:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Spectre3353 Hey Skira, are you going to update the guide soon? You seem to be missing the section about how to run away and move your entire corp to another system at the slightest hint of competition or PvP. Thanks!
I don't know, maybe you should write that one. I hear Dead Terrorists are enjoying Egghelende. __
Now Recruiting
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.14 17:17:00 -
[531]
Would be nice if PC kept the e-peen waving to another thread. This guide's thread doesn't need the wannabe drama, especially since nobody cares.
Also, bump. Any word on updates, by the way?
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Gwydion Voleur
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.14 20:12:00 -
[532]
The zingers are flying, as are the bumps for this thread.
Oh, and "bump".
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Ian Morrolan
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.12.16 12:09:00 -
[533]
To the top this goes.....
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Lo'ken
Cartel Assessment Branch The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.17 11:00:00 -
[534]
Boing!
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Skira Ramos
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Posted - 2009.12.17 19:35:00 -
[535]
Ya my guide is good, too bad im a coward \o/ remember... if you want to be a pirate... do as i say, not as i do, else you'll just end up sitting in a staion while all the real pirates are out fighting... why you ask? because im too damn scared, i hate losing ships, and unless i can win a fight i wont undock to fight you.
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Ian Morrolan
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:23:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Skira Ramos Ya my guide is good, too bad im a coward \o/ remember... if you want to be a pirate... do as i say, not as i do, else you'll just end up sitting in a staion while all the real pirates are out fighting... why you ask? because im too damn scared, i hate losing ships, and unless i can win a fight i wont undock to fight you.
Amazing what the change of a single consonant can do. A good pirate and all around great guy is magically transformed into a ****.
Or could this be a post from a wannabee who's too cowardly to use their main? Hmmm....
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Thrista Korvinus
Minmatar Intolerable Tyranny Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:18:00 -
[537]
WOW never would have thought it would have turned out like this...sad
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Sk1ra Ran0s
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Posted - 2009.12.19 02:07:00 -
[538]
Spectre needs to find a new alliance to troll.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:44:00 -
[539]
Bump. ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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Troll Bear
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Posted - 2009.12.20 16:00:00 -
[540]
h0h0h0
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:27:00 -
[541]
Read the guide for fun and profit.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.21 04:44:00 -
[542]
Most bumped thread in history?
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Taitrenis
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Posted - 2009.12.21 15:44:00 -
[543]
Page 2? Nonsense!
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Thundercatt
Gallente ThunderCatts
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Posted - 2009.12.21 20:47:00 -
[544]
Bumpity for a great guide!!
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ShoopdaWooop
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Posted - 2009.12.22 00:37:00 -
[545]
*sigh* take a hint from the community and ****ing sticky this you idiots.
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2009.12.23 00:53:00 -
[546]
bump Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2009.12.24 04:48:00 -
[547]
Still not a sticky? Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.25 07:33:00 -
[548]
I was hoping for an updated guide for Christmas, left disappointed. What will I tell my little young pirates when they ask me, "Andrea, where is Skira? Has Skira left us?"
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.25 23:02:00 -
[549]
Is it just me or did this thread suddenly lose about 5 pages of posts? Perhaps CCP should take the hint from the signal to noise ratio and put it back where it belongs? ----------- FREE ABATHUR - HAVING GOOD 0.0 IDEAS IS NOT A CRIME.
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JASON W0RTHING
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.25 23:16:00 -
[550]
Um, FANTASTIC guide. I'm a new player and the only other guide I have seen with this kind of depth is Halada's Mining Guide which isn't nearly as interesting. I'm a new player so this stuff is really awesome. Why isn't this stickied?
+Free Bump for good guide
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.26 14:08:00 -
[551]
boom boom.
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Kajan Tormen
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.28 12:34:00 -
[552]
almost on the third page?! to the top with the guide that got me into the yarrr!
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.29 04:53:00 -
[553]
I demand an update!
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Lo'ken
Cartel Assessment Branch The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.29 11:51:00 -
[554]
Page 2.....I think not!
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Doc Shroom
Doc Shroom's Medicinal Shoppe
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Posted - 2009.12.29 17:31:00 -
[555]
This guide got my friend into pirating, damn it.
Keep up the yarr!
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Ex Caliburr
Minmatar Vitae Peril
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Posted - 2009.12.29 21:43:00 -
[556]
bump,this guide is my inspiration
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2009.12.30 08:12:00 -
[557]
Up to the top. Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Damon Eclipse
Blend.
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Posted - 2009.12.31 17:42:00 -
[558]
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Aale Ayan
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.01 10:59:00 -
[559]
Back to page 1 :)
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.01 20:30:00 -
[560]
I bump thee for thy great importance to all those who would yarr!
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2010.01.02 09:21:00 -
[561]
bump Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Lo'ken
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:20:00 -
[562]
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Susy Assulu
Caldari Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2010.01.03 01:04:00 -
[563]
This thread has gone on a diet, interesting >.> Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. StevieSG |
Gwydion Voleur
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.03 02:22:00 -
[564]
They'll spend time moderating it and pairing it down on a weekly basis instead of taking one action once and making it a sticky.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.04 14:48:00 -
[565]
Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 04/01/2010 14:47:49 Needs to go back to the front page.
By the way... If Skira ever catches me, I will pay 50 million isk.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:37:00 -
[566]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 04/01/2010 14:47:49 Needs to go back to the front page.
This.
Quote: By the way... If Skira ever catches me, I will pay 50 million isk.
Not this. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.05 15:59:00 -
[567]
I consider it a reward for the guide. Does Skira not deserve to be rewarded?
Besides... If Skira CAN get me on that one day or so a month that I actually undock in high sec... Totally deserves it.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.06 06:53:00 -
[568]
Free bump, especially now that CCP's decided to shrink the first page of C&P and GD for some weird reason.
Also, sticky this please!! Sucks pointing newbies to this thread only to have them ask me where it is.
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:36:00 -
[569]
I'm voting Skira Ranos for CSM.
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Sainsbury
Minmatar Dark Fusion Industries One Stop Research
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Posted - 2010.01.07 19:22:00 -
[570]
this was on 2nd page. also sticky it already, learn to moderate. -------
Quote: "Te audire non possum, musa sapientum fixa est in aura"
- I can't hear you, i have a banana stuck in my ears. |
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:45:00 -
[571]
Originally by: Sainsbury this was on 2nd page. also sticky it already, learn to moderate.
This. -----------
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.09 12:54:00 -
[572]
bananafish bump
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Agent Gunn
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.01.09 18:48:00 -
[573]
*Bump. to page one with ye!!
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:36:00 -
[574]
Dangerously near the bottom of page 2. Problem resolved. Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:54:00 -
[575]
Bumping this guide. I also endorse solo pirating in officer fit marauders.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:59:00 -
[576]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Bumping this guide. I also endorse solo pirating in officer fit marauders.
Probably a good idea to keep them cap stable by turning off the shield mods, too.
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2010.01.14 04:55:00 -
[577]
One day this may be a sticky. But then again maybe not. Blood Money Cartel
Pirates Welcome - Recruitment |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:34:00 -
[578]
Hulkageddon is cool and all, but because of the forum sticky bug, this amazing contribution to the Eve world has fallen to the second page once more.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.15 06:48:00 -
[579]
Back to the first page we go.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.01.15 06:55:00 -
[580]
so... this thread is immune to moderation? Can we talk about moderation in here?
What happened to my AF boost? |
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.16 17:53:00 -
[581]
I'm going to jump on the "I have a great x-geddon idea!" me-too train. Let's have Stickyageddon, where all the threads that should be stickied are hunted down and stickied!
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Marleigh Raffaraii
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Posted - 2010.01.16 18:06:00 -
[582]
Sticky like california bud
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.01.16 18:23:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Lana Torrin so... this thread is immune to moderation? Can we talk about moderation in here?
Is talking about talking about moderation talking about moderation? My head hurts just thinking of the potential ramifications of this.
...Now I think about it, thinking generally makes my head hurt anyway.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2010.01.17 07:25:00 -
[584]
is the online version not working? i was bored and wanted to reread this guide
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S1W
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Posted - 2010.01.18 09:40:00 -
[585]
Whats this doing down here? A fellow could trip over it.
Back up ye go.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.19 08:08:00 -
[586]
This needs to go onto the front page so that there is something worthwhile to read.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2010.01.21 05:48:00 -
[587]
Sticky please?
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.22 23:40:00 -
[588]
Badabump
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Ahro Thariori
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:10:00 -
[589]
nice read
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Kiae
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:13:00 -
[590]
Badump-bump.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.25 06:03:00 -
[591]
This is actually linked in the sticky.
Under resources, and then under pirate guides.
But still deserving of at least page one. --
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XenosisReaper
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:28:00 -
[592]
Bumping for eternal glory in the glare of the Mods burning gaze.
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Kit Foresight
Minmatar United Miners Inc. Wrath.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 15:35:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Exaduss Edited by: Exaduss on 25/01/2010 06:07:55 Edited by: Exaduss on 25/01/2010 06:05:28 This is actually linked in the sticky.
Under resources, and then under pirate guides.
But still deserving of at least page one.
Edit: Linky chain.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107612 Links to http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=973176 which links to the guide.
Extra edit because I fail at linking.
A bump for this! ----------------------- LIMITED EDITION |
Hull Blaster
Gallente Missions Mining and Mayhem Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:18:00 -
[594]
Back up to the top
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.26 17:40:00 -
[595]
Putting this inspirational guide up on the first page where it belongs. No, a link to this guide inside of a resources thread that nobody ever reads is not good enough.
Dear C&P: You're welcome, there is now something on the first page worth reading.
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Owen Drakkar
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Posted - 2010.01.26 22:00:00 -
[596]
TTT!
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Kit Foresight
Minmatar United Miners Inc. Wrath.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 22:14:00 -
[597]
Love this guide. Giving it a shot tonight! I can guarantee you... I'm going to die tonight.
Hopefully someone else does before me. ----------------------- LIMITED EDITION |
Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 22:30:00 -
[598]
Originally by: Kit Foresight Love this guide. Giving it a shot tonight! I can guarantee you... I'm going to die tonight.
Hopefully someone else does before me.
Tell me where you will be and we can test that.
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.27 10:56:00 -
[599]
Up ye go. __
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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M Seldera
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Posted - 2010.01.27 11:05:00 -
[600]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 26/10/2009 20:16:08 Edited by: Skira Ranos on 05/04/2009 12:10:07
Piracy costs isk. The more time I have to spend grinding isk, the less time I have to work on updating and completing this guide.
HELP KEEP THE GUIDE ALIVE!
Donate isk to Skira Ranos
Excerpts from the Preface:
Piracy is the most fun you can have in EVE in my opinion, and something many new players seem attracted to. I myself played many long hours of mind numbing mission running before I attempted my first PvP combat. I died quickly, and could not find any guides that provided the information I needed to survive. So I set about learning to pirate properly all by myself, armed with nothing but a stack of T1 frigates and a desire to yar.
Now, many years and four corporations latter, I am finally confident enough to pass my knowledge on.
This guide is intended to thoroughly fill you in on the basics you need to pirate, and get you up and running with the minimum of hassle. Provided in this first draft is everything you need to know to get out and yar, including settings for your UI, scanning skills, basic tactics, advice, and fittings and tactics for T1 frigates (and before you ask, YES they are effective pirate ships, even solo, and NO you don't need high skill points! Trust me!)
PDF (EVE Files)
Online Version
Some people have been confused about where the link to our recruitment post is. Signatures are turned off by default on the EVE-O forums. To fix this, go to > EVE forums, settings, and then check "Show Signatures".
put this p- where he really belongs.. why is a thread about 'Crime and Punishment' giving free reign to pirates... sure, defend the individual case, but leave the general piracy thread to where it should be.. under 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
If that encourages players to take the cheap and easy route, then so be it!!!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.27 14:06:00 -
[601]
Originally by: M Seldera 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
Datacore farmers and mission runners are pirates?
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.27 14:25:00 -
[602]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: M Seldera 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
Datacore farmers and mission runners are pirates?
Keep piracy alive, collect a datacore today!
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Kajan Tormen
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.27 15:22:00 -
[603]
Originally by: M Seldera put this p- where he really belongs.. why is a thread about 'Crime and Punishment' giving free reign to pirates... sure, defend the individual case, but leave the general piracy thread to where it should be.. under 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
If that encourages players to take the cheap and easy route, then so be it!!!
can someone translate that please?
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Sir Fourhead
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.01.27 16:04:00 -
[604]
Edited by: Sir Fourhead on 27/01/2010 16:04:53
Originally by: Kajan Tormen
Originally by: M Seldera put this p- where he really belongs.. why is a thread about 'Crime and Punishment' giving free reign to pirates... sure, defend the individual case, but leave the general piracy thread to where it should be.. under 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
If that encourages players to take the cheap and easy route, then so be it!!!
can someone translate that please?
That would require Gibberish to be trained to Level 5, so, maybe.
edit: oh come on, really? Please pardon the prissy overtones that will be found throughout this letter, but the reservoir from which CCP draws its lickspittles is primarily the masses of revolting enemies of the people. Let me |
Kroma BaSyl
Amarr Snickers Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.27 18:58:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Kajan Tormen
Originally by: M Seldera put this p- where he really belongs.. why is a thread about 'Crime and Punishment' giving free reign to pirates... sure, defend the individual case, but leave the general piracy thread to where it should be.. under 'Piracy'... '... a cheap and easy way to earn isk in hi sec.'... EMPHASIS on CHEAP and EASY.
If that encourages players to take the cheap and easy route, then so be it!!!
can someone translate that please?
I think it is something about losing a ship and the tears that follow.
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Kroma BaSyl CEO - Snickers Inc
Don't hate me because I am beautiful! |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:11:00 -
[606]
This guide is the true Carebear-ageddon (Sorry, I had to!). Not because it helps you kill cute fuzzy animals, but because it has the capability to turn them into vicious beasts of war. Back up to the top, so that C&P has something worth reading on the front page.
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Owen Drakkar
Caldari DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.01.28 21:34:00 -
[607]
Bump for some Incursus love.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:26:00 -
[608]
I do agree that this guide is deserving of its own sticky.
Perhaps stickying it as a general "How now to be ******ed at combat and playing in general" guide.
Either way it DOES warrant a place on page 1. Near the top. --
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Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:02:00 -
[609]
As long as this pirate holds breath, then this will never drop to the 2nd page.
But I can only hold my breath for about 5 minutes, so after that its someone elses's problem.
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Owen Drakkar
DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:09:00 -
[610]
Send me 5 mil isk for secrets of holding your breath for six minutes.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.30 02:43:00 -
[611]
Confirming that the previous poster's "Hold Your Breath for Six Minutes" program works.
Works even better than "6 Minute Abs" works.
Also, please independently sticky this guide. Pretty please.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.30 22:20:00 -
[612]
Back where it belongs. -----------
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.01 16:17:00 -
[613]
I think that the next version of this guide should include a section on "Popular Pirate Drinks" and the joys of flying while intoxicated.
It would also be interesting to have a few pages about notable historical pirates as an introduction, to give the guide some more flavor, and to give new pirates some inspirational role models. I heard that Skira is something of a pirate historian, is that true?
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Owen Drakkar
DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.02.01 18:49:00 -
[614]
The only reason I logged in today was to bump this thread.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.02.02 04:03:00 -
[615]
Is the only reason this hasn't been independently stickied because it has "Pirate" in the title?
It reads as a "How not to Suck Out Loud at EVE" guide.
Literally. Please sticky this. --
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Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.02 17:46:00 -
[616]
Edited by: Imagonnawhupya on 02/02/2010 17:46:20
Originally by: Andrea Griffin I think that the next version of this guide should include a section on "Popular Pirate Drinks" and the joys of flying while intoxicated.
Pirate Goo Gargle Blaster
2 parts Capsule Goo 1 part Blue Pill extract 2 parts Mind Flood extract 3 parts Ammarian Ale 2 parts 800 Capacitor Booster Charge
Lite with charge of 1 Antimatter Medium and drink before your barstool launches into orbit
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Owen Drakkar
DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.02.02 19:37:00 -
[617]
Go go spidy web, stick that ****.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.03 15:41:00 -
[618]
Originally by: Skira Ranos HELP KEEP THE GUIDE ALIVE!
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Owen Drakkar
DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.02.03 21:12:00 -
[619]
Originally by: Owen Drakkar TTT!
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.02.03 22:15:00 -
[620]
Skira, you should include this ship chart in your guide. It would be of great value for any pirate that is still new to the game in deciding what to fight, and what to avoid.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1255634
Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.04 20:43:00 -
[621]
Once again, the front page of C&P is full of junk not worth reading, so the guide gets a bump.
You're all terrible posters. Just stop. (Except Lady Spank)
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kilted warrior
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Posted - 2010.02.05 11:29:00 -
[622]
Bump to the top for a DECENT pirates guide! Flew with Skira for a short time, a very honourable pirate.
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Owen Drakkar
DOOMED.
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Posted - 2010.02.05 21:41:00 -
[623]
Thank you Skira! I started by reading this guide and have graduated to being able to get my YAR on, this is for you.
Doomicus
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.02.06 16:34:00 -
[624]
Originally by: Owen Drakkar Thank you Skira! I started by reading this guide and have graduated to being able to get my YAR on, this is for you.
Doomicus
Imicus of DOOM!!!
I'd love to see the fit you used for that.
Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Razekri
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:38:00 -
[625]
Skira saved my kitten from a burning building by using his supreme yarr skills. I endorse this guide, as it may save many other defenseless kittens in the future. Please keep this guide on the first page, for the kittens.
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Alexandra Stormwing
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2010.02.08 05:07:00 -
[626]
Originally by: kilted warrior Bump to the top for a DECENT pirates guide! Flew with Skira for a short time, a very honourable pirate.
Hello, Kilted. I remember a fight we had a long time ago. I had a fun time. Would you like to meet up again somewhere? Maybe we can do best out of 5 this time.
Also, Skira is awesome, and every time I have flown with Skira I have had an incredible time.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.08 15:54:00 -
[627]
Reading this guide cures cancer. It isn't stickied on the front page, so obviously CCP hates cancer patients and wants them to die.
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GovtIssuedDigDug
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Posted - 2010.02.08 16:25:00 -
[628]
STICKY IT ALREADY
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Owen Drakkar
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.02.08 17:37:00 -
[629]
Originally by: Dacryphile
Originally by: Owen Drakkar Thank you Skira! I started by reading this guide and have graduated to being able to get my YAR on, this is for you.
Doomicus
Imicus of DOOM!!!
I'd love to see the fit you used for that.
Doomicus
Expanded Probe Launcher Salvager or Autocannon
1mn MWD Fleeting Warp Disruptor (for cap)
OD II Nanofiber II
3 x Hobgoblin II
3 x CCC rig
With that fit and my skills it is all cap stable, pretty much set the drones to attack and stay out at 19k
More Doomicus
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.09 15:02:00 -
[630]
Reading this guide helps cure world hunger. This guide isn't stickied on the front page, so obviously CCP wants poor starving children to die.
This is why we pirate - to take from the rich and greedy, that we might give the poor and needy some small comfort, because CCP is heartless.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:35:00 -
[631]
READ ME.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.10 17:53:00 -
[632]
Pg 1.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:08:00 -
[633]
Reading this guide will provide an endless supply of cheap, clean energy. CCP is in bed with Big Oil, and hopes that you will forget about this guide. This is obviously true because the guide is not stickied on the front page.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.02.11 02:09:00 -
[634]
Hmm, bottom of P1 is too close to big oil winning. Back to the top with you.
Please independently sticky this guide, guys? (it is on page one of the resources sticky now, though.) --
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.12 04:09:00 -
[635]
Reading this guide promotes capitalism and helps eradicate the scourge of communism. CCP, also known as Communist Control Productions, doesn't want this to happen. This is obvious because the guide is not stickied on the front page.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.12 21:24:00 -
[636]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Eljar Kjeldsson Attack of the grammar ****s!?
I'm not a ****, I'm a whole other brand of fascist!
Looking at the above I believe it
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.14 16:08:00 -
[637]
Reading this guide is educational. CCP wants you to remain an ignorant fool, which is why it is no longer stickied on the front page.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.02.15 08:16:00 -
[638]
Back to 1st page you go.
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.15 16:05:00 -
[639]
Every time you read this guide a pirate angel gets his wings. CCP hates angels of all types, especially pirate angels, which is obvious because this guide is not stickied on the front page.
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Damon Eclipse
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Posted - 2010.02.16 07:33:00 -
[640]
Edited by: Damon Eclipse on 16/02/2010 07:33:43
Group picture of BMC. I belive Skira is on the right. (from our point of view).
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Taitrenis
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Posted - 2010.02.17 02:36:00 -
[641]
Originally by: Damon Eclipse Edited by: Damon Eclipse on 16/02/2010 15:11:58 Edited by: Damon Eclipse on 16/02/2010 07:33:43
Group picture of BMC. I believe Skira is on the right. (from our point of view).
Can I be the one with the eye patch? :O
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Damon Eclipse
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Posted - 2010.02.17 18:54:00 -
[642]
Can I be the one with the eye patch? :O
Sure.. take your pick
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.17 21:15:00 -
[643]
Maybe our wonderful new community guy, CCP Shadow, could kindly rectify the sticky issue.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.02.18 06:43:00 -
[644]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Maybe our wonderful new community guy, CCP Shadow, could kindly rectify the sticky issue.
Let's hope so. In the mean time, this gets to go back to first page. \o/
Goshdurn 5-minute timer....
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:46:00 -
[645]
I keep a printed copy of this guide by my bed and I read it every night before I sleep. This guide soothes the soul, comforts the lonely, and heals age-old wounds. CCP wants us all to suffer and be miserable, which is obvious because this guide is not yet stickied.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.19 17:13:00 -
[646]
Originally by: Owen Drakkar The only reason I logged in today was to bump this thread.
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Corel Rose
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Posted - 2010.02.21 03:58:00 -
[647]
This guide taught me to be a straight shooter.. therefore, I just want to announce that I would really like to father Andrea Griffin's babies.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.02.22 12:20:00 -
[648]
What's this doing making its way to page 3?
Up we go!
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Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.22 16:55:00 -
[649]
On page two?!?! I say thee NAY!!
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Kate Yeats
Caldari Everyshore Mineral Acquisition Authority
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Posted - 2010.02.22 19:56:00 -
[650]
Great thread, deserves to be on the front page. If only there was some manner of keeping it there... |Adventures in Acquisition| |
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.22 21:56:00 -
[651]
Read this guide, get out there and tax some worm holes. They don't know what they are doing.
-Owen
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.02.23 13:58:00 -
[652]
Page two?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.23 19:13:00 -
[653]
They say that reading this guide will help stimulate the economy. CCP, however, wants the economy to completely collapse so that they can institute a New World Order. This is true, and this is why the guide is not stickied.
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.02.24 13:21:00 -
[654]
Again!
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.24 19:02:00 -
[655]
*Owen winds up for the kick.... and its good! Direct shot to page one.
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Miregar Shakor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.02.25 12:51:00 -
[656]
Yarr!
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.02.25 17:43:00 -
[657]
TTT
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BeachParty
Caldari Semi Precious
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Posted - 2010.02.25 17:52:00 -
[658]
I have read it a few times now and am currently prowling Solitude on my Merlin of Doom. A few suggestions, the most useful section of the guide was how to setup your overview. Please put the settings in a table of some sort. You also made mention of safe spots near astroid belts without clarifying why. After placing these safes the answer is obvious, but was not apparent on the first read. I have also gotten horrific feed back on the shield boosting merlin fit in the text, are the fits just general fits or specific to Pirating? Great stuff though, and thanks, I love my overview settings.
BeachParty.
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Logos Rhema
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Posted - 2010.02.25 22:32:00 -
[659]
Great read !!
It was a huge help in understanding the world of Pirating !
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.02.26 22:25:00 -
[660]
Originally by: BeachParty I have also gotten horrific feed back on the shield boosting merlin fit in the text, are the fits just general fits or specific to Pirating?
I am also not fond of the shield boosting Merlin. I much prefer the medium shield buffer version (AB/Web/Scram/Extender), which provides quite a lot of EHP (and passive recharge) for a frigate without the agility sacrifice of plates.
Where a shield boosting fit may work well is with a kiting fit. MWD, long point, cap booster, shield booster. Standard launchers, 125mm guns, 2x locus rigs. Uranium or Plutonium ammo to taste. This will give you a very nice optimal, and the shield booster will help you shrug off whatever damage does come your way.
The fits in the guide itself are really just general PvP fits. I can't think of any fit that is "pirate specific" - piracy is really more of a state of mind and an attitude than anything else.
That said... Bump for a truly awesome guide that has inspired countless from Boredom to Yarrrrrdom!
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.27 23:00:00 -
[661]
Now arriving at page one. Please do not feed the residents or put any appendages at all through the cages.
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Gwydion Voleur
Darn Near Respectable
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Posted - 2010.03.01 16:46:00 -
[662]
Up you go.
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Vitae Peril
Minmatar At your Peril
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Posted - 2010.03.01 19:17:00 -
[663]
Up you go. CCP, sticky this guide or, somewhere in new eden, a kitten will die. in a "hail" of gunfire. and it will be a sad day.
For the kittens!!!!
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 06:42:00 -
[664]
Now moving to first page of C&P. _________________________________________________________________
Wrong! - Cortes YES! I HAD MY SIG EDITED! DEVS FTW!
Also, you just lost the game.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.03.02 16:35:00 -
[665]
For the kittens.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:16:00 -
[666]
CCP hates kittens and wants them to die. This is obviously true, because the non-sticky nature of this guide kills kittens and CCP has yet to sticky the guide.
On a personal note I do not like kittens, but unlike heartless CCP I do not wish death upon them.
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Boss Lemming
Gallente BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:38:00 -
[667]
CCP Shadow, you seem like a pretty chill guy, sticky this?
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Fumitsugu
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.03.03 07:17:00 -
[668]
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.03.03 18:49:00 -
[669]
Sticky icky.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.03.04 05:41:00 -
[670]
Still think this reference needs to be added Skira.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1255634
Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.03.04 13:50:00 -
[671]
Bumping this back to the top.
Thread requests docking rights in sticky-bay.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:28:00 -
[672]
back to page one ya go... _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.03.05 07:50:00 -
[673]
Found this guy hanging around on page 2
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Jorek Kol
Minmatar NEX-CX
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Posted - 2010.03.05 11:11:00 -
[674]
Nice work !
o7
Pirate |
Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.05 22:37:00 -
[675]
Page two?!
NAY, SAY I!
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.06 18:54:00 -
[676]
We are now arriving at *ding* First page of C&P. Please do not antagonize the locals, and wait for the bump to come to a complete stop before exiting the post. _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.08 06:30:00 -
[677]
Back to the top you go. _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.08 17:07:00 -
[678]
_________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
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Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:44:00 -
[679]
Up ya get
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.10 17:15:00 -
[680]
Arise, Sir Shouldbestickied!
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Dock Lobstah
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Posted - 2010.03.11 04:34:00 -
[681]
Must . . . hit . . . first . . . page. |
MicroWarpdrive II
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Posted - 2010.03.12 23:47:00 -
[682]
IM POSTIN GUISE!
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Troll Bear
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Posted - 2010.03.15 00:51:00 -
[683]
mushr00m mushr00m
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Arturos Pendragon
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.15 02:40:00 -
[684]
Edited by: Arturos Pendragon on 15/03/2010 02:49:34 This guide is my inspiration. this char is one day old, and I was inspired to do this:
2010.03.15 01:59:00
Victim: xxxxxxx Corp: xxxxxxxx Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Tristan System: Dour Security: 0.4 Damage Taken: 1800
Involved parties:
Name: Arturos Pendragon (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Corp: Republic University Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Rifter Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile Damage Done: 1291
Name: Serpentis safeguard / Serpentis Corporation Damage Done: 509
Destroyed items:
Small Nosferatu I Small Hull Repairer I (Cargo) Tracking Disruptor I Small Shield Booster I (Cargo) Small Armor Repairer I (Cargo) ECCM - Magnetometric I (Cargo) Small Energy Neutralizer I, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Contaminated Lorentz Fluid, Qty: 3 (Cargo) 200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo) Light Neutron Blaster I Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Ship Scanner I (Cargo) Damaged Artificial Neural Network (Cargo) Tracking Speed Disruption Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 148 (Cargo) Thorium Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Broken Drone Transceiver, Qty: 3 (Cargo) 100mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo) Tungsten Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo) Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 8 (Cargo) Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Stasis Webifier I (Cargo) Salvager I Overdrive Injector System I 50mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo) Inertia Stabilizers I Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters Acolyte I (Cargo) Light Neutron Blaster I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Uranium Charge S, Qty: 1300 (Cargo) Warrior I (Drone Bay) Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 94 100mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I (Cargo) Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Yaaaaaaaaar!!!!!!!!!!!!!(yes, dammit, I do want a cookie)
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Boss Bosstard
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Posted - 2010.03.15 11:37:00 -
[685]
awesome post
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Boss Lemming
Gallente BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.03.15 17:55:00 -
[686]
Originally by: Boss Bosstard awesome post
I'm the boss!
Originally by: Alchemist's Alt I stopped mining because you mean pirates kept blowing me up.[...] now I am doing all the blowing up. Shadow
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Noob Shadow
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Posted - 2010.03.17 11:59:00 -
[687]
Bump
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.18 13:35:00 -
[688]
This thread is lower than my IQ.
This cannot be allowed.
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Skira Ranos
Tribe of One death from above..
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Posted - 2010.03.21 18:28:00 -
[689]
Gentle nudge. __
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.23 19:38:00 -
[690]
Odin's balls! This is almost on page three again. THE VALIANT SHALL RIDE THE THREAD BACK TO THE TOP OF C&P!
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Imagonnawhupya
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.26 17:06:00 -
[691]
WHAT!!?! How in heck does this make it to page THREE!?!? You scummy villinous bastards are slacking!!
Originally by: CCP Shadow This thread has been cleansed of bodily fluid references - CCP Shadow
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CrossMarian
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Posted - 2010.03.29 10:02:00 -
[692]
I don't know if it's just a problem with my internet connection or something, but the online version is 404ing and for some reason I can't connect to eve-search or eve-files, so I can't get at the pdf version. Is there another way to obtain this guide? From all the comments it sounds like the best thing ever, I need this delicious pirate-y knowledge!
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.03.31 10:07:00 -
[693]
PDF link works fine but you are correct about the online version.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.04.01 16:51:00 -
[694]
TTT
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.02 22:26:00 -
[695]
LIIIVE MY CHILD __
Recruiting Pirates
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Kurann
Tribe of One death from above..
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Posted - 2010.04.03 13:40:00 -
[696]
So this one time, I knew this guy that told me he'd give me $100 to get into his van and...
Wait, wtf is this doing on page 2?!?!?! --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.04 13:06:00 -
[697]
Up ye go. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Phlyk
The VonBraun Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.04 13:34:00 -
[698]
Thanks guys, my (part-time) PvP career has begun in earnest!
1 kill and 1 loss so far, not awful.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.05 21:59:00 -
[699]
What are you doing down here thread? __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Kurann
Tribe of One death from above..
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Posted - 2010.04.06 14:12:00 -
[700]
Shenangins! Page 2?!?!!? --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.04.07 16:15:00 -
[701]
This wouldn't be necessary if they would just sticky the damn thing...
Oh, by the way, Page 1 now has something worth reading.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.08 06:00:00 -
[702]
To the first page!!! - Paknac Queltel
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.04.09 16:08:00 -
[703]
Perpetual bumpage.
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.09 22:28:00 -
[704]
If at first you don't succeed This guide should be the text you read.
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James Fiveaces
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Posted - 2010.04.10 09:47:00 -
[705]
Neither the PDF or the HTML version want to work. Is there someone who can convert?
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:25:00 -
[706]
Edited by: Triple Entendre on 10/04/2010 23:30:27 Roses are red Violets are blue If this thread is stickied We'll STFU
edit: Just checked. The pdf works fine for me.
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Deadly Threat
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Posted - 2010.04.11 00:58:00 -
[707]
Up with ye!! *bump
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Aralieus
Amarr Rising Devils Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.04.11 02:02:00 -
[708]
Mad props Skira, you are a helluva fighter and awesome writer. This needs to be stickied NOW!
Free bump
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 23:00:00 -
[709]
Row, row, row the thread Quickly to the top If a mod re-stickys this The bumping can be stopped
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Kurann
Tribe of One death from above..
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Posted - 2010.04.12 19:29:00 -
[710]
I don't have the awesome rhyming skills of some people...
i just kick this thread to the top, where it belongs. --------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Ruze "If you like playing EvE, but don't like to pvp ... you don't really like playing EvE, do you?"
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:41:00 -
[711]
Guide to piracy Is not on page one right now Haiku power go!
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Troll Bear
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Posted - 2010.04.15 10:41:00 -
[712]
Moar shenanigans!
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.15 16:24:00 -
[713]
There once was a C&P thread That really deserved to be read It fell onto page two And that just won't do While carebears undock without dread.
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Alex Kriminov
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.04.15 22:22:00 -
[714]
Excellent post and work! Makes me want to yell "Yar!"
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Vorast Elandor
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Posted - 2010.04.16 16:54:00 -
[715]
Had to go all the way to page 2 to find this thing. Very many sads.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.17 03:14:00 -
[716]
bump __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Mining Princess
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.18 09:46:00 -
[717]
Gentle push
OFF A CLIFF ON TOP OF THE FORUM!!!!!!!!
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.04.21 15:08:00 -
[718]
Oh look something on page one worth reading.... unless you like people *****ing.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.04.22 21:54:00 -
[719]
See above.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.04.23 15:44:00 -
[720]
A newbie was interested in PvP. I gave him two things:
1. A stack of 20 Incursus. 2. A link to this guide.
He's happy now.
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:17:00 -
[721]
Skira had a little thread That lived on C&P It helped the rookies find their feet In good old piracy.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.04.26 16:28:00 -
[722]
Originally by: Triple Entendre Skira had a little thread That lived on C&P It helped the rookies find their feet In good old piracy.
*CLAP* *CLAP* HEY!
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.28 04:33:00 -
[723]
Up ye go. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Pelorn
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Posted - 2010.04.28 05:43:00 -
[724]
Great guide, somehow first time I've seen it.
I disagree with the power ranking of the T1 frigates, but I have more pressing concern: you've butchered my dear merlin.
Sticking with your AB theme, here's the very basic T1 merlin:
[Merlin, CHEAPO] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control I
Medium Shield Extender I Stasis Webifier I Warp Scrambler I 1MN Afterburner I
Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket Light Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
Standard T2 fit:
[Merlin, LIKABOSS] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II
Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Light Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
My personal T2 fit:
[Merlin, AC/MEDEX] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Notice a general theme? The merlin gets such great recharge with a medium shield extender, it's quite foolish to fit one without it unless you are going for a pure speed fit, which is not advised because the merlin is slow. The second fit in particular gets over 10k EHP with 46 passive recharge.
I prefer the AC fit, because it gives me the same options the rifter does. I can fit barrage and go further out with the web, (rockets are effective out to 10km), change damage types, fit a MWD easily, and therefore close the distance much more quickly + run gate camps (prefer null sec myself).
Anywho, not knocking the guide, just please don't put vamp + booster on my dear merlin.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:25:00 -
[725]
Page 3? Yikes. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Multipurpose Cleaner
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Posted - 2010.05.05 14:13:00 -
[726]
badam tshhhhhhhhhh
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:08:00 -
[727]
THIS WAS ON PAGE TWO!?!? THE HORROR!!! THE HORROR!!!
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
MYNX for |
Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.09 22:31:00 -
[728]
Page three?!
The thread RISETH! __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.05.10 14:14:00 -
[729]
Arise, dark topic. Taketh more noobs, and shape them into warriors of valor. - Paknac Queltel
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.12 14:07:00 -
[730]
Up ye go. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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SanYueHua
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:52:00 -
[731]
New pvp alt living in Curse at the moment.
This is exactly what I needed while I wait for skills to train.
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Triple Entendre
Knights Adamant
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Posted - 2010.05.15 22:14:00 -
[732]
Arise! ARISE!
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:07:00 -
[733]
Work on 3.0 begins this week. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.05.19 22:33:00 -
[734]
Wow, a neat pirate guide like this should be stickied!
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Sabrina Al'Kian
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Posted - 2010.05.22 21:17:00 -
[735]
I honestly couldn't find this thread scrolling through C&P. What the hell.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:20:00 -
[736]
up ye go. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.05.25 13:13:00 -
[737]
The guide for pirates Web, Scram, Pew-Pew, Pew-Pew, Yarr! Ransom or death, sir?
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Kiae
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.26 16:45:00 -
[738]
Bumpty-bumpty.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.31 00:01:00 -
[739]
up to the top __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.06.01 15:11:00 -
[740]
Good Guide! When will 3.0 be done? |
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cljjlc
Grand OL Party Section Eight's
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Posted - 2010.06.02 10:07:00 -
[741]
Very good guide. Been pvping for a bit now and still found that I learned alot
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Mal Shepperd
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Posted - 2010.06.03 17:44:00 -
[742]
nice info
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.04 22:37:00 -
[743]
ARISETH I SAY __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:16:00 -
[744]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin The guide for pirates Web, Scram, Pew-Pew, Pew-Pew, Yarr! Ransom or death, sir?
Confirmed.
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Supplement
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.09 07:36:00 -
[745]
Edited by: Supplement on 09/06/2010 07:37:59 So, version 3 just got sent to me for some opinions and editing before the upcoming release. The guide is so massive it's missing a chapter or two and it's still over 60 pages long. Worth the wait? Absolutely.
Also: BUMPAGE
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:17:00 -
[746]
Originally by: Supplement Worth the wait? Absolutely. Also: BUMPAGE
Confirmed. Repeated.
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.12 13:56:00 -
[747]
*performs the ancient voodoo ritual needed to keep the guide alive each day* __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.14 14:47:00 -
[748]
Bump, especially since someone on the front page is looking for advice on ships and fittings to help get started with piracy. This guide really should be stickied.
Also, Morgan Rose, your signature image is... ...really creepy... ...Is that what happens to your victims when you're done with them?
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Morgan Rose
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.14 19:37:00 -
[749]
Edited by: Morgan Rose on 14/06/2010 19:37:51
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Also, Morgan Rose, your signature image is... ...really creepy... ...Is that what happens to your victims when you're done with them?
Glamour Shots FTW! It's actually what the three of us look like on a good day when we wake up on the wrong side of the bed and are having a terrible hair day.
Yarr! ___
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Sir SmokeSomePot
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Posted - 2010.06.15 00:34:00 -
[750]
WoW tnx for the great guide. I'm new to eve an it realy helpt a lot.
Now since im already a fan of your guide i was wondering if we could expect a new update soon (if atall)?
Well tnx agen for the great guide, an this question was not meant to be pushy or any thing but well mmmm lets just say i cant w8 to become even better with the help of this guide :)
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fido goran
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.15 01:05:00 -
[751]
Originally by: Sir SmokeSomePot Now since im already a fan of your guide i was wondering if we could expect a new update soon (if atall)?
Did you not read post 542 by Supplement?
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Ilik Tanikalot
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2010.06.15 22:18:00 -
[752]
A really good guide to start out with general PVP, not just piracy. Waiting for the update.
Never forget ... have a close look what's working for you. Keep it up!
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:00:00 -
[753]
I can't wait any more for verson 3.0. This guide is great the surspence is killing me. |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.17 19:19:00 -
[754]
I can't wait to share this guide with all my friends!
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Rameus Luxmaar
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.17 20:19:00 -
[755]
I love this guide... *sniff* Immortalis Inc. is recruiting PvP pilots! http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1296620 Public Channel: Shadow Cartel Public |
Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.18 11:33:00 -
[756]
Up I say! __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.21 06:43:00 -
[757]
Thread, I summon thee! __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Shapeshifting Shaman
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Posted - 2010.06.22 04:09:00 -
[758]
Wouldn't you know it... The PDF format is convenient for my little Sony SRS-300 eBook reader, and an excellent way to pass the time at work when I really should be working (but honestly, screw those guys, I keep getting shafted and piracy is way more cool).
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.26 08:34:00 -
[759]
Ahem. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.06.26 15:30:00 -
[760]
I dont want to sound impatent... but when can we exspect to see 3.0?
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Skira Ranos
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.29 01:22:00 -
[761]
resurectus.
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Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Supplement
Hatchet Men The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.02 09:04:00 -
[762]
Good resources like this should have a sticky. I'm pretty sure it did for about a year actually....
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xSicknessX
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Posted - 2010.07.02 14:15:00 -
[763]
Edited by: xSicknessX on 02/07/2010 14:15:20
Originally by: Rifter Drifter Nice Work Mate, sent copies to a lot of people thinking of coming to EvE
yay moar cvatards to kill but otherwise, good job :)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.03 17:13:00 -
[764]
A rifter attacks Guns blazing, a target falls A pod in despair
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:08:00 -
[765]
Bump. For anyone who hasn't read it.
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Valkyriane
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.08 18:43:00 -
[766]
<3 Lots of Looooooove <3
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:01:00 -
[767]
Eagerly awaiting the new release with rum in one hand and a scimitar in the other.
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MooAhDeeb
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Posted - 2010.07.10 13:02:00 -
[768]
nice guide. looking forward to ****ing people off. thanks |
Alexandra Stormwing
Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.12 16:50:00 -
[769]
Pew!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.15 13:40:00 -
[770]
Hulkageddon is cool and all, but this is way better. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
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Nota Traderalt
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Posted - 2010.07.16 17:04:00 -
[771]
*** BUMP ***
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***BUMP***
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 04:36:00 -
[772]
You know what would be cool? If some programmer could make it so certain forum threads--like this one--could kind of "stick" at the top of the list so people wouldn't have to go searching for something they may not even know exists.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.20 15:08:00 -
[773]
Hey, look, now there's something worth reading on the front page of C&P again. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Eskaron
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.21 10:26:00 -
[774]
Bump as tribute to the writers
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:34:00 -
[775]
Hey, can one of the mods sticky this? It's only the best intro to piracy in all of Eve. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Sileo Calx
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:22:00 -
[776]
Bump for good info helpful to all new pirates
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Arch Widowmaker
Cry Wolf.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:05:00 -
[777]
Bump for my old CEO and this great guide!
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Gabi Kain
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:45:00 -
[778]
This is interesting...should be stiky
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.08.10 21:45:00 -
[779]
I understand that version 3 of this guide will never be released. Skira has left Eve and is now playing a night elf in WoW.
...Okay, now that I've locked all the doors, shut the windows, and found my guns and loaded them, I might live through the night! Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.08.14 08:15:00 -
[780]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin I understand that version 3 of this guide will never be released. Skira has left Eve and is now playing a night elf in WoW.
...Okay, now that I've locked all the doors, shut the windows, and found my guns and loaded them, I might live through the night!
I hope thats not true.
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WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.08.15 14:10:00 -
[781]
Fellow corp member needed some beginner's advice on how to get his Yarrr on. Can you imagine that someone accidentally unstickied this guide? I hope that's fixed soon - it is so much easier to find when it's on the front page.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.08.17 20:34:00 -
[782]
C&P now has something on the front page worth reading. You're welcome. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
ElJo123
Sons Of 0din The Strangers.
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:52:00 -
[783]
Needs moar Page 1
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.08.29 17:25:00 -
[784]
Bump for it to get back to the top. Also grate read. For all pirates young and old.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.08.30 22:41:00 -
[785]
There are few people in Eve that I hold in as high a regard as Skira Ranos. This Guide has been the starting point of thousands into the world of piracy and deserves an eternal front page presence.
Other super awesome cool people include Lady Spank and, um. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2010.08.31 02:39:00 -
[786]
Once again, up to the top. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.08.31 06:43:00 -
[787]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Hey, can one of the mods sticky this? It's only the best intro to piracy in all of Eve.
Bump since it's handy anyhow, but a decent amount of that is rather heavily out-of-date.
Specifically, the assessment of the SB as a pirate boat mentions cruise missiles and doesn't mention its value as a covops scout (so assumably was written before it had warp-while-cloaked and torps). And some other stuff earlier in that I'm too lazy to carefully list (references to probe types that no longer exist, etc).
There's a reason it's not sticky'd.
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Shanur
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.31 13:35:00 -
[788]
Speaking from the other side of the coin, given how well this guide explains the theory behind the yarr, it's not just a great guide for beginning pirates, but also a very good read for carebears wanting to grow sharper teeth. Knowing how a pirate finds prey helps a lot in avoiding them. And i can not agree more on the statement that the skill in PvP comes largely from deciding who to fight and avoid and making sure it's your choice rather than the other guy's.
The ship section also gives some useful pointers for carebear corps facing their first wardec and wanting to deal with it head on. |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.02 09:19:00 -
[789]
buh bump |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.02 15:28:00 -
[790]
Originally by: Skira Ranos buh bump
Dose that mean verson 3 is still going to happen?
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 09:28:00 -
[791]
Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: Skira Ranos buh bump
Dose that mean verson 3 is still going to happen?
Of course. I took a short break from EVE without warning, but I'm back, and back to working on the guide. __
Recruiting Pirates and Mercenaries
Kokuryu Pirate Blog
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.04 09:37:00 -
[792]
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: Skira Ranos buh bump
Dose that mean verson 3 is still going to happen?
Of course. I took a short break from EVE without warning, but I'm back, and back to working on the guide.
Yes I can't wait to read the guide over again.
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Super Judge
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Posted - 2010.09.06 13:08:00 -
[793]
Good stuff Skira, thoroughly enjoyed reading this guide! Never tried piracy, but now I want to
Also looking forward to reading version 3! |
Laktos
Beyond Redemption Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.06 13:47:00 -
[794]
Confirming this guide gave me the best possible head start and introduction to the world of piracy and pvp.
Thankyou skira and really looking forward to version 3!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.09.12 01:44:00 -
[795]
So, I came to C&P, looking for something worth reading. ino, rite? What was I thinking? Anyway, I ended up on page 3, and this thread, before I found something that met my standards. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Siri Irme
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
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Posted - 2010.09.19 09:28:00 -
[796]
Bump
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.19 12:39:00 -
[797]
Edited by: Scorpionidae on 19/09/2010 12:40:13 Just came by to say with the help of this guide I got my first real act of piracy kill.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7629491
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.09.20 21:29:00 -
[798]
Originally by: Scorpionidae Just came by to say with the help of this guide I got my first real act of piracy kill.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7629491
Congratulations! You have provided all of Eve with an excellent service by removing that atrocious fail fit from the depths of space. I wish you much success as you follow this wonderful and deeply rewarding career path. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.22 19:44:00 -
[799]
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Congratulations! You have provided all of Eve with an excellent service by removing that atrocious fail fit from the depths of space. I wish you much success as you follow this wonderful and deeply rewarding career path.
Thank you. I have also ransomed a Retrever pilot yesterday.
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Blackk Soul
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:46:00 -
[800]
Bump for a great guide!!
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Skip Southpaw
The Doldrums
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Posted - 2010.09.22 21:44:00 -
[801]
This guide was good, not great. You kids need to stop abusing the **** outtha mah superlatives..
btw I haven't been able to find a target in a belt yet, in 3 days of play. I know I'm new, but I have the scanning skills down to a tee and yes I do roam. Bad luck, no fish left in the pond.. or perhaps I just suck harder than I think I do.
- Skip. |
Lex Starwalker
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Posted - 2010.09.23 05:14:00 -
[802]
Thanks for this! Givin' it a bump.
PLEASE STICKY!!!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.09.23 05:18:00 -
[803]
Originally by: Skip Southpaw btw I haven't been able to find a target in a belt yet, in 3 days of play.
Don't worry, everyone runs into dry spells. I personally have had 40-jump roams with no viable targets. Keep working at it, don't give up. Don't forget to check FW complexes, planets, and the sun. You'll get action eventually. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Valkyriane
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.26 17:01:00 -
[804]
Bumb for my family, I miss you! Working sucks, few more days until can yaarr again.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.10.07 01:34:00 -
[805]
Wheeeeeeee. Onwards to front page!
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.09 02:29:00 -
[806]
I was directing a young pirate-to-be to the guide and saw that it needed a bump. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Paknac Queltel
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.10.11 11:49:00 -
[807]
Now arriving on the first page of C&P. You will find mercs on your left and shiptoasters on your right. Please enjoy your stay. - Paknac Queltel
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.10.13 15:04:00 -
[808]
Welcome.
Welcome to City 17. It's safer here.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Heinrich Osterhagen
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Posted - 2010.10.13 21:40:00 -
[809]
Edited by: Heinrich Osterhagen on 13/10/2010 21:40:55 Confirming Skira's guide is the bigges scam in Eve.
1. Read guide. 2. Run to low sec to apply technique. 3. Get ambushed and provide free killmails to Skira's awaiting gang.
Where 99% of the nooob community would never jump into low sec without reading a guide that tells them low sec piracy can be successful by applying the secrets found therein. Kind of reminds me of late night TV. "As seen on TV", "But wait, there's more", "Act now or lose this once in a lifetime offer."
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Kesina Starr
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Posted - 2010.10.13 22:10:00 -
[810]
Originally by: Heinrich Osterhagen Edited by: Heinrich Osterhagen on 13/10/2010 21:40:55 Confirming Skira's guide is the bigges scam in Eve.
1. Read guide. 2. Run to low sec to apply technique. 3. Get ambushed and provide free killmails to Skira's awaiting gang.
Where 99% of the nooob community would never jump into low sec without reading a guide that tells them low sec piracy can be successful by applying the secrets found therein. Kind of reminds me of late night TV. "As seen on TV", "But wait, there's more", "Act now or lose this once in a lifetime offer."
Because Skira's awaiting gang is in every low sec <-> hi sec system, amirite?
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Heinrich Osterhagen
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Posted - 2010.10.13 22:18:00 -
[811]
Edited by: Heinrich Osterhagen on 13/10/2010 22:19:46
Originally by: Kesina Starr
Originally by: Heinrich Osterhagen Because Skira's awaiting gang is in every low sec <-> hi sec system, amirite? [:pirate:
Uh yeah, didn't you know Skira is omnipotent? In our circles we call Skira "The One" because Skira knows where you will be before you decide your going there. Yes, you are right, you may carry on now. |
Kesina Ut'tuku
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Posted - 2010.10.13 23:58:00 -
[812]
Originally by: Heinrich Osterhagen Edited by: Heinrich Osterhagen on 13/10/2010 22:19:46
Originally by: Kesina Starr
Originally by: Heinrich Osterhagen Because Skira's awaiting gang is in every low sec <-> hi sec system, amirite? [:pirate:
Uh yeah, didn't you know Skira is omnipotent? In our circles we call Skira "The One" because Skira knows where you will be before you decide your going there. Yes, you are right, you may carry on now.
/me carries on. Oh and a bump for great justice!
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.10.16 01:38:00 -
[813]
Impertinent mortal wormcast! Do you truly aspire to prevail against me? I am the Bane of the Atlantean Kings, the Scourge of Lemuria, Arch-Foe of the Immortals of Ultima Thule! Long before man hurled himself squamously from the primordial ooze, I waged war with gods and thwarted ete-ahem.
I mean, BUMP!
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Nurf Norburt
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Posted - 2010.11.03 06:35:00 -
[814]
Originally by: Heinrich Osterhagen Edited by: Heinrich Osterhagen on 13/10/2010 21:40:55 Confirming Skira's guide is the bigges[SIC] scam in Eve.
1. Read guide. 2. Run to low sec to apply technique. 3. Get ambushed and provide free killmails to Skira's awaiting gang.
Where 99% of the nooob community would never jump into low sec without reading a guide that tells them low sec piracy can be successful by applying the secrets found therein. Kind of reminds me of late night TV. "As seen on TV", "But wait, there's more", "Act now or lose this once in a lifetime offer."
That type of whining will certainly not get you into an awesome pirate corp. Try EVE Uni, I hear they need carebears.
-Oh wait... I ment to say /bump |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.11.03 20:42:00 -
[815]
I'm thinking of a word a very wonderful word... could anyone tell me what this word would be I can't quite think of what it is...
Scorpionidae
Oh wait I know what word I was thinking of... it was bu...
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.06 22:42:00 -
[816]
ARISE, SIR THREAD.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Teers Artasti
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Posted - 2010.11.06 22:52:00 -
[817]
OMFG stickied?!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.11.08 04:44:00 -
[818]
The only person in Eve that is more awesome than Lady Spank is Skira Ranos. But from what I have heard, Skira quit Eve - which means that Lady Spank is the most awesome person in Eve.
I guess someone is going to have to update the guide themselves in time, but for now, a bump in the memory of our great pirate leader will have to suffice.
Also: Whisky. Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.08 23:47:00 -
[819]
ONWARDS, TO VICTORY!
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Teers Artasti
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Posted - 2010.11.09 03:03:00 -
[820]
Edited by: Teers Artasti on 09/11/2010 03:04:22
Originally by: Andrea Griffin The only person in Eve that is more awesome than Lady Spank is Skira Ranos. But from what I have heard, Skira quit Eve - which means that Lady Spank is the most awesome person in Eve.
I guess someone is going to have to update the guide themselves in time, but for now, a bump in the memory of our great pirate leader will have to suffice.
Also: Whisky.
Originally by: Skira Ranos
Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: Skira Ranos buh bump
Dose that mean verson 3 is still going to happen?
Of course. I took a short break from EVE without warning, but I'm back, and back to working on the guide.
How does this mean that someone has to update the guide themselves...
(page 20 for those that cant be bothered to look up how old the quote was...)
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.10 02:36:00 -
[821]
WITCH! Tortured to confess! WITCH! In flames you shall burn!
Oh, and bump.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2010.11.13 08:24:00 -
[822]
We were somewhere around Tama, on the edge of the Citadel, when the bump began to take hold.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.16 01:21:00 -
[823]
Le bump.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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Damien McCandless
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:43:00 -
[824]
Originally by: Seven OfMine
Originally by: Andrea Griffin This thread is now about piracy Haiku.
Wasent this thread ALWAYS about piracy?
The post being over a year old does not stop me wanting to dec you for your minute understanding of the English Language you ****ing *** *****.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.29 07:35:00 -
[825]
Now arriving at page one. Please do not feed the mods.
Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:37:00 -
[826]
Bump.
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.12.12 20:35:00 -
[827]
Hello and welcome to the top of C&P maybe we'll get a sticky here?
Scorpionidae
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Reiki Sixx
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.12.13 02:09:00 -
[828]
Bump, baby
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Kiae
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.12.25 18:10:00 -
[829]
Bump bump bump.
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Kerran Tor
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:33:00 -
[830]
And back to the front page.
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Force Rain
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Posted - 2011.01.02 17:27:00 -
[831]
I find this guide to be nutritious and yummy. bump, dammit.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Cry Wolf.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 13:20:00 -
[832]
Another bump for the most helpful an aspiring pirate can read. ----
Cry Wolf. is recruiting! |
Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Cry Wolf.
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Posted - 2011.01.07 20:00:00 -
[833]
Apparently this sticky keeps making it off the first page. ----
Cry Wolf. is recruiting! |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.01.20 07:30:00 -
[834]
Edited by: Scorpionidae on 20/01/2011 07:30:59 Bump. This time a sticky?
Scorpionidae
Edit First on page 22
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Valkyriane
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:58:00 -
[835]
<3 First page again.. Sticky it please =)
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Twisted Xistance
The Greif Wave
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Posted - 2011.01.22 22:53:00 -
[836]
bump for an awesome topic -First there was nothing then there was Xistance, then it all got kinda Twisted- |
Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.25 16:55:00 -
[837]
Bump
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 18:40:00 -
[838]
Page three?!
WHAT IS THIS HERESY?!
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Mathieu Levasseur
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Posted - 2011.02.08 22:59:00 -
[839]
This guide has been what I've been forming my pirating tactics on. I've only been playing for over a month n' a half and I can hold my own so far. Good job, Ranos.
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Kiae
Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2011.02.15 21:49:00 -
[840]
Up Up Up!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.02.15 21:59:00 -
[841]
Originally by: Kiae Up Up Up!
Upp upp.. -
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.02.22 17:12:00 -
[842]
B... BU... BUM (lol)... BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!
Scorpionidae
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Marc Scaurus
Sinners.
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Posted - 2011.02.22 21:26:00 -
[843]
Are there any plans for an update in the near future? Even a bit outdated, it is still a hugely useful resource for any beginning pirate. --- --- Sinners. - A new pirate corp with old pirate roots. Killboard
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Baki Yuku
Minmatar CRANK INC.
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Posted - 2011.02.22 22:19:00 -
[844]
Hi-jack time if your looking for merc's check out this Link
We don't sit out side station in a remote repped neutral ship. If you need or want someone assassinated call us. Need or want to see someone infiltrated and then ripped off. Want to see an corp/alliance collapse call us. Mission/mining griefing or just plan old fashion griefing. Help with becoming a Pie Rat
Mail in-game for a free quote today.. No corp or alliance too small or to big no assignment to complicated
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Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
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Posted - 2011.02.22 22:27:00 -
[845]
Without confirmation from Skira, there is no way of knowing if an update is in the works or not. However, I do take the fact of Skira bumping his thread as encouragement. At least he is still promoting his guide, hopefully he will be adding to/updating at some point.
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Moolti
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.03.08 22:01:00 -
[846]
I'm not a pirate, But this guide is 100% win for general intro to PvP.
Thanks!
@)}---^----- The Jove are a warning to us all. We must remember to live and Love and feel. Fall in Love, make Love, be beautful and see the beautiful. For we mustn't loose our human spark |
Xi 'xar
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Posted - 2011.03.14 09:17:00 -
[847]
Just recommended this to a friend. Bump.
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Celeste Chevalier
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.03.14 10:27:00 -
[848]
Nice guide. I pointed someone from newbie corp chat to it.
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Teers Artasti
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Posted - 2011.03.17 00:20:00 -
[849]
ba-bump!
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Mickey Simon
When Saints Go Machine
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Posted - 2011.03.17 00:57:00 -
[850]
Still confused why people want this stickied when C&P has a policy of not stickying things, but linking them in one of the stickies that already exists. Also still confused as to why people keep bumping a guide that's unfinished and basically full of information you can find in help channels.
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2ippy
Amarr Shadow Incursion En Garde
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Posted - 2011.03.18 11:19:00 -
[851]
Friendly bump for a nice guide!
2ippy
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.04.02 14:24:00 -
[852]
Time for another bump? Oh wait just by asking that I have bumped it.
Scorpionidae
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.04.06 23:21:00 -
[853]
Back to top with you, where you belong.
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Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
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Posted - 2011.04.11 02:00:00 -
[854]
A friendly bump for a great manual, and a hello from an old fellow pirate to Skira, from the player of Eschiava Q.
Glad to see you are back at the helm of BMI once again! ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Gabi Kain
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Posted - 2011.04.13 12:33:00 -
[855]
This is a nice guide
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Bluddwolf
Seventh Exploration and Engagement Command
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Posted - 2011.04.19 13:12:00 -
[856]
Has this guide been updated, or the 2008 guide is still in use?
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Melkor Khan
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Posted - 2011.04.19 13:16:00 -
[857]
NVM, see it was updated in 2009, still old though.
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Triple Entendre
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2011.05.05 20:59:00 -
[858]
Page 5?
This madness will not stand!
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.05.18 21:10:00 -
[859]
Bump!!!!!
Scorpionidae
Still want a sticky.
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Orion Pax
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Posted - 2011.05.29 01:23:00 -
[860]
Bump for awesomeness.
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Teers Artasti
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Posted - 2011.05.31 01:19:00 -
[861]
I can haz update?
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Imagonnawhupya
Malicous Mischief
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Posted - 2011.06.11 17:14:00 -
[862]
I found this on page 6. I'm sure that it got lost, so I brought it home
Originally by: CCP Shadow This thread has been cleansed of bodily fluid references - CCP Shadow
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:03:00 -
[863]
Bump, for great awesomeness!
(Come on, already, CCP, how can even you lot not see that this needs to be stickied?)
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Eli Strange
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.16 11:23:00 -
[864]
Great guide! If the present world go astray, the cause is in you, in you it is to be sought. Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy |
Raggedy Anne Saraki
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Posted - 2011.06.27 10:19:00 -
[865]
still waiting for an updated version ^_^ if their is gonna be one!
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Sir Vela
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:46:00 -
[866]
Needs some bumping |
Valkyriane
Pirate Retirement Home
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Posted - 2011.08.21 20:57:00 -
[867]
Skira.. I would like to return to my family
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.08.27 06:50:00 -
[868]
man i learned my pvp from this guide but WHY IN THE ****ING GOD'S NAME ARE YOUR FRIGATE FITTINGS SO TERRIBLE, they're literaly all bad, like all of them are ****ing awful
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:22:00 -
[869]
Bump me to the top!!!!
Scorpionidae I found the signature!!!!! |
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