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SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.12 17:54:00 -
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Diplomacy: Skill at interacting with hostile NPCs. 0.4 Bonus to effective standing towards hostile NPCs.
Now I have a -.07 standing with the serpentis, but my diplomacy skill raises it to 1.54. However when I go to refine at a serp station they still base what precentage they take on my -.07 standing. Is this intended or is there a bug with diplomacy and standings when refining?
-The end time has begun
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.12 17:54:00 -
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Diplomacy: Skill at interacting with hostile NPCs. 0.4 Bonus to effective standing towards hostile NPCs.
Now I have a -.07 standing with the serpentis, but my diplomacy skill raises it to 1.54. However when I go to refine at a serp station they still base what precentage they take on my -.07 standing. Is this intended or is there a bug with diplomacy and standings when refining?
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.12 18:05:00 -
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Its the same with connections skill (when refining at CONCORD friendly corporations). For some reason the refining screen doesn't take into account your social skills either by design or by accident.
Btw, shouldn't diplomacy only apply to CONCORD friendly factions/corporations that you have a negative standing with? I always assumed that the criminal connections was supposed to be the skill that raises standing with CONCORD hostile factions/corps.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.12 18:05:00 -
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Its the same with connections skill (when refining at CONCORD friendly corporations). For some reason the refining screen doesn't take into account your social skills either by design or by accident.
Btw, shouldn't diplomacy only apply to CONCORD friendly factions/corporations that you have a negative standing with? I always assumed that the criminal connections was supposed to be the skill that raises standing with CONCORD hostile factions/corps.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.12 18:23:00 -
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Well I have both criminal connections and diplomacy and neither affect refining.
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.12 18:23:00 -
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Well I have both criminal connections and diplomacy and neither affect refining.
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.07.13 05:06:00 -
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so we got it covered that refining does not take adjusted standings (ie: Connections/Diplomacy) into account.
my question is this a bug, or deliberate, and will it ever change?
my bet is that it'll change right about when i get to 6.8 standing in the corp of my home station....
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |
Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.07.13 05:06:00 -
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so we got it covered that refining does not take adjusted standings (ie: Connections/Diplomacy) into account.
my question is this a bug, or deliberate, and will it ever change?
my bet is that it'll change right about when i get to 6.8 standing in the corp of my home station....
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |
Kaimon Zhal
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Posted - 2004.07.13 11:56:00 -
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This seems like a good place to mention that diplomacy will not stop faction ships from firing on you at -5, nor allow you to get around the -2 faction killing all agent acess regardless of corp standing. Does anyone have any experience with what it *does* do?
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Kaimon Zhal
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Posted - 2004.07.13 11:56:00 -
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This seems like a good place to mention that diplomacy will not stop faction ships from firing on you at -5, nor allow you to get around the -2 faction killing all agent acess regardless of corp standing. Does anyone have any experience with what it *does* do?
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DHU InMe
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Posted - 2004.07.13 13:05:00 -
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It made on purpose, or 1 mission at lv 4-5 skill would give you a 1.6-2% direct discount wo no effort..... Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way. |
DHU InMe
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Posted - 2004.07.13 13:05:00 -
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It made on purpose, or 1 mission at lv 4-5 skill would give you a 1.6-2% direct discount wo no effort..... Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way. |
Camar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:42:00 -
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It seems to me that the skill ain't working very good, at least if you relog.
Working fine while in training, navy won't open fire cause the skills takes you under -5....then relog..and all of the sudden...diplomacy shows no effect on the standing to others. (And it ain't no graphic-bug, cause the navy will open fire again...)
...and with the light all life vanished... |
Camar
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Posted - 2004.07.14 17:42:00 -
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It seems to me that the skill ain't working very good, at least if you relog.
Working fine while in training, navy won't open fire cause the skills takes you under -5....then relog..and all of the sudden...diplomacy shows no effect on the standing to others. (And it ain't no graphic-bug, cause the navy will open fire again...)
...and with the light all life vanished... |
JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:41:00 -
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I would love to know what Diplomacy actually does.
I have lvl 1, but am to scared that it does nothing to train it up further.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:41:00 -
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I would love to know what Diplomacy actually does.
I have lvl 1, but am to scared that it does nothing to train it up further.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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Opalfruit
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:04:00 -
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It shows to you when you look at it in character info, yet when someone else looks its just the normal standing, not the improvement you see...
This needs fixing
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Opalfruit
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:04:00 -
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It shows to you when you look at it in character info, yet when someone else looks its just the normal standing, not the improvement you see...
This needs fixing
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bonesy19uk
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:52:00 -
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Yeah, Diplomacy isn't as it should be.
I have the same problem as opalfruit and camar, in that my standings are unchanged by the diplomacy skill when others look at my standings. Really, really needs fixing. Please.
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bonesy19uk
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:52:00 -
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Yeah, Diplomacy isn't as it should be.
I have the same problem as opalfruit and camar, in that my standings are unchanged by the diplomacy skill when others look at my standings. Really, really needs fixing. Please.
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:44:00 -
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I submitted a petition and CCP told me to report it as a bug, which I did. Haven't heard a peep since, just hope that if they do tune it it'll reflect refining.
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:44:00 -
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I submitted a petition and CCP told me to report it as a bug, which I did. Haven't heard a peep since, just hope that if they do tune it it'll reflect refining.
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
Camar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:54:00 -
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I hope they tune it so that the navy WON'T fire at you when your effective standing is BETTER then -5...
If feels weird when they spawn and starts to fire at u when you got a standing of -4.48. (With diplomacy yes...)
...and with the light all life vanished... |
Camar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:54:00 -
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I hope they tune it so that the navy WON'T fire at you when your effective standing is BETTER then -5...
If feels weird when they spawn and starts to fire at u when you got a standing of -4.48. (With diplomacy yes...)
...and with the light all life vanished... |
Xron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 22:34:00 -
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Bump...any answer from CCP on the Diplomacy skill as to whether or not it will keep Empire factions from firing upon you if the skill shows you are below -5.0?
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Xron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 22:34:00 -
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Bump...any answer from CCP on the Diplomacy skill as to whether or not it will keep Empire factions from firing upon you if the skill shows you are below -5.0?
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.26 00:55:00 -
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Nope no word on anything, anyone from CCP out there?
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
SM60
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Posted - 2004.07.26 00:55:00 -
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Nope no word on anything, anyone from CCP out there?
-The end time has begun
-Viva la newb slaughter!!! |
bonesy19uk
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Posted - 2004.07.30 17:35:00 -
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Still awaiting a reply....
Anything CCP....? Anything at all?
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bonesy19uk
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Posted - 2004.07.30 17:35:00 -
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Still awaiting a reply....
Anything CCP....? Anything at all?
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