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Rramar Claime
Amarr Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Thynar Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:51:42 Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:50:11 http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?t=3428&page=2
If this is really Maltroc posting, then he seems to imply that the 2005 post was referring to this exploit.
edit: "k u g u t s u m e n" is filtered? edit: Ziester faster than me twice
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------- "I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
Mr Manufacture
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Posted - 2008.12.11 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Julian Grey
Originally by: Mr Manufacture
Originally by: Julian Grey
Resub already so we can watch the drama without the whole alt suspense.
no thanks, he is resting in peace
why dont you post with your main anyway, whilst we're on the subject
I'm not on forum warfare mode...so no need to use my main.
Though I must say, it's pretty poor form to accuse people of cheating with no evidence. Your constant flaming of MM/NC not withstanding, I used to think Butter Dog was a pretty OK guy....so slightly disappointed. Wesley Baird seems to be runnign around making the same accusations as well...though he tries to be very subtle about it. Meh...human nature I suppose.
I find it all hilarious tbh
and it is :)
i'm sure there is plenty more drama to come
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:00:00 -
[1173]
Originally by: Rramar Claime Edited by: Rramar Claime on 11/12/2008 21:58:51
Originally by: Thynar Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:51:42 Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:50:11 http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?t=3428&page=2
If this is really Maltroc posting, then he seems to imply that the 2005 post was referring to this exploit.
edit: "k u g u t s u m e n" is filtered? edit: Ziester faster than me twice
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edit: LOL had to try it. this is some awesome filtering :D CCP has some good old commie censoring we had here in the '50s .... grats ccp another fail on your list
"He Who Shall Not Be Named"
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Rramar Claime
Amarr Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Rramar Claime Edited by: Rramar Claime on 11/12/2008 21:58:51
Originally by: Thynar Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:51:42 Edited by: Thynar on 11/12/2008 21:50:11 http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?t=3428&page=2
If this is really Maltroc posting, then he seems to imply that the 2005 post was referring to this exploit.
edit: "k u g u t s u m e n" is filtered? edit: Ziester faster than me twice
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edit: LOL had to try it. this is some awesome filtering :D CCP has some good old commie censoring we had here in the '50s .... grats ccp another fail on your list
"He Who Shall Not Be Named"
ye like voldemort... omg i just said it kug kug kug ku.... it will turn out that with all these commie habits of handling stuff ccp is actually based in china or belarus.
------- "I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Manufacture already sold all my ferrogel for a tidy profit ;)
A-HA! So you're confessing to have been profiting from this exploit! BAN HIM !!!
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rramar Claime it will turn out that with all these commie habits of handling stuff ccp is actually based in china or belarus
CCCP
CCP
YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS COINCIDENCE?!? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Warlock Khan
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:07:00 -
[1177]
Originally by: Datsun Achura Is it true this exploit has existed for four years?
It couldn't have been that long. POS's where not out that long.
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Julian Grey
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:08:00 -
[1178]
Originally by: Mr Manufacture
Originally by: Julian Grey
Originally by: Mr Manufacture
Originally by: Julian Grey
Resub already so we can watch the drama without the whole alt suspense.
no thanks, he is resting in peace
why dont you post with your main anyway, whilst we're on the subject
I'm not on forum warfare mode...so no need to use my main.
Though I must say, it's pretty poor form to accuse people of cheating with no evidence. Your constant flaming of MM/NC not withstanding, I used to think Butter Dog was a pretty OK guy....so slightly disappointed. Wesley Baird seems to be runnign around making the same accusations as well...though he tries to be very subtle about it. Meh...human nature I suppose.
I find it all hilarious tbh
and it is :)
i'm sure there is plenty more drama to come
Well it's one thing calling MM carebears or blobbers or whatever...thats really quite amusing but accusing people of being cheaters is a bit OTT.
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Mr Manufacture
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Julian Grey
Well it's one thing calling MM carebears or blobbers or whatever...thats really quite amusing but accusing people of being cheaters is a bit OTT.
oh, please... tell someone who cares
it made me laugh, and thats good enough
its not like MM didnt accuse bob of haxspoilting at the start of max... if you want epic lulz eve-search those coad whine threads
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:16:00 -
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If CCP are wise, they will::
- Investigate why the original petition/bug report was closed/ignored, or even if it was petitioned/reported in the first place.
- Look at the database dumps for the past 4 years (I'd say monthly snapshots, so 48 instances), look for similar POS setups.
- Ban anyone who had POS management roles for the above POSs. Ban anyone who sold the manufactured Ferrogel (or anything else produced in these exploited reactions).
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
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Azeneth Mannerheim
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Manufacture
Originally by: Julian Grey
Well it's one thing calling MM carebears or blobbers or whatever...thats really quite amusing but accusing people of being cheaters is a bit OTT.
oh, please... tell someone who cares
it made me laugh, and thats good enough
its not like MM didnt accuse bob of haxspoilting at the start of max... if you want epic lulz eve-search those coad whine threads
Why are you so angry :I
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Qordel
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:19:00 -
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I still can't see how the effects from this could be minimized or reverted. Aside from the months or years of effects it has had previously, how could you yank the thread connecting the exploit to the massive amount of cash to the purchases made with it and the goods traded with it and so on? If they had just been hording all the stuff and keeping it in a hangar, that's simple enough. But, once it has been released into the rest of the economy, the limit to what CCP can do is pretty much jack****.
I'm not sure how to look at this. Get ****ed and feel that it's impossible to compete in a game with so much (essentially "external") corruption? Or view it as more realism as we are seeing in the world today where government and corporations are completely back-rooming everything and exploiting the hell out of it all to screw over the economy.
This certainly won't get me to quit. But that doesn't mean this isn't a fantastic discussion and debate and story. So much drama-filled, delightful, rich, filthy goodness. Awesome!
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Mr Manufacture
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Azeneth Mannerheim
Originally by: Mr Manufacture
Originally by: Julian Grey
Well it's one thing calling MM carebears or blobbers or whatever...thats really quite amusing but accusing people of being cheaters is a bit OTT.
oh, please... tell someone who cares
it made me laugh, and thats good enough
its not like MM didnt accuse bob of haxspoilting at the start of max... if you want epic lulz eve-search those coad whine threads
Why are you so angry :I
oh yeah, i'm so angry I'm shaking with rage
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Impact
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:21:00 -
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HAHAHAHA!!!!!! to funny. Well done CCP ^_^ Good that you caught the exploiters ^_^
Unlike these other people I enjoy when cheaters get hammered, and dont worry about the complaining. Honestly people complain more when there content and have nothing really relavent to complain about.
Well Done CCP for catching them ^_^
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Digiball t2 bpos have nothing to do with the isue! i own the ishtar t2 bpo. and got tnothing to do with moon crap. why should i be punished ? its ok if ccp takes back bpo`s but i would want a solid fund for it then. say 100 bill.. and i consider it. the fact i got my bpo fairly should be taken into consideration and some ******ed story about them turning into anytihng is just stupid. as i by now would have memorised how to make em..
sure ccp claim back t2 bpo but give the owners a SOLID refund. some lame price IS NOT ok. i want 100 bill ATLEAST!
t2 bpo's are not at issue but i had to comment on this.
I was in the lottery as well had 10 R&D agents, did not get lucky. But because you won a random draw and have been profiting off a bpo II for years now you think that you are entitield to a compensation package ff its removed? i did just as much work to earn that bpo as you did. I hate the tech 2 bpo entitlement crap. CCP should just burn them all.
Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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Renfrew Shrufan
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx Guys, I don't know where you are getting your information from, but nowhere in the article do I see that CCP knew of the exploit for four years. All it said that the petition was submitted five DAYS before 7 Dec 2008. What sources do you use to come up with this so-called four-year conspiracy?
Until you give me hard, unadulterated, certified proof to back up such claims, I will have to take your word for it. And until then, I will trust CCP.
Why trust CCP over others? What is your reasons for this, because I can't see any good reasons why CCP should be more honest than others. CCP makes real life cash from this game, so they have far greater motive to lie than anyone else !
CCP I can at least hold accountable if they post something and then lie. I can then cancel my subscription(s).
You (some random poster on any site saying anything) could be anyone in the world, posting from an IP address routed through multiple compromised servers or relays, and have any reason for doing anything. This includes just making up stuff to posting photoshopped images to posting links to malware and keyloggers.
If you don't understand the difference, you're either an idiot or a troll.
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Carnal Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:29:00 -
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Quote:
Originally by: Orree A truck load
Care to explain what you mean?
I'm defending RAWR Full stop.
What i'm saying is very simple:
you can say what you want, and you are making asumptions, the facts are far beyond your comprehention, so when the **** hits the fan, you _will_ get compromised. You know that.
And you will, no doubt about that
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Qordel
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: royal killer But, 4 whole years....that's like 1460 days and nobody said anything! absurd. (didn't know about this btw.)
Well, this is what happens when your bug tracking/reporting system is closed to the membership. No accountability. Otherwise certainly a number of other parties would have realized the issue and insisted that it be addressed rather than it slipping under the rug (or being shoved under the rug).
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Johncrab
Minmatar XBeyond
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:34:00 -
[1189]
Well, it has been proven that ccp knows about this issue since 2005. Most likelly, according to several reports, they know about it since 2004, in the early days of starbase deployment in game.
I don't even have words to describe how lame cheating is. All of you cheating, YOU SUCK! But ccp knowing about this game breaking bug, knowing people were exploiting it with huge profits and doing nothing about it... Well, I though CCP couldn't go any lower but this time you guys just dumped a whole bucket of **** down your heads. Hope you're all proud of your amazing work with game ballance. |
Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Impact HAHAHAHA!!!!!! to funny. Well done CCP ^_^ Good that you caught the exploiters ^_^
Unlike these other people I enjoy when cheaters get hammered, and dont worry about the complaining. Honestly people complain more when there content and have nothing really relavent to complain about.
Well Done CCP for catching them ^_^
I don't think you get the "impact" of what this exploit has done.
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Ethan Hunte
TARDZ
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:35:00 -
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so who was the main players? bob? mm?
we should be told.
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Jovoich
Infestation.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:35:00 -
[1192]
lol I call 'Bull****' CCP. Isn't it great that the alchemy process was introduced and can 'take up the slack?'
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Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:36:00 -
[1193]
Originally by: Julian Grey
Well it's one thing calling MM carebears or blobbers or whatever...thats really quite amusing but accusing people of being cheaters is a bit OTT.
Its so funny seeing all these responses this time around when the last time something like this happened it was all "OMG BOBZ ALL CHEATIN THEY ALL SUCK, WE DONT NEED NO PROOFZ" ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |
Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:37:00 -
[1194]
Originally by: Ethan Hunte so who was the main players? bob? mm?
we should be told.
D2 LOLZ ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |
blathering idiot
Caldari Helliburton Inc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: blathering idiot on 11/12/2008 22:37:57 Ok, here is my .02 worth....
What if this is all a scam? I mean, if some people start an entertainment business, say a gambling house for instance. They open it up to the public. Many people show, enriching the business. But the management of the company rig it so that the only people that hit the big BIG jackpots are their friends and family. Is that legal?
This isn't gambling but it is entertainment with rewards. Are the best rewards destined to go to the few that which the owners choose? Is this legal? Should this situation be investigated by the very entity that may have created it from the start?
Outside, it is almost winter here in RL, should be cold, I hear thunder... Dark clouds are coming..... |
Baske
Space-Bar
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:39:00 -
[1196]
Originally by: Renfrew Shrufan
Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx Guys, I don't know where you are getting your information from, but nowhere in the article do I see that CCP knew of the exploit for four years. All it said that the petition was submitted five DAYS before 7 Dec 2008. What sources do you use to come up with this so-called four-year conspiracy?
Until you give me hard, unadulterated, certified proof to back up such claims, I will have to take your word for it. And until then, I will trust CCP.
Why trust CCP over others? What is your reasons for this, because I can't see any good reasons why CCP should be more honest than others. CCP makes real life cash from this game, so they have far greater motive to lie than anyone else !
CCP I can at least hold accountable if they post something and then lie. I can then cancel my subscription(s).
You (some random poster on any site saying anything) could be anyone in the world, posting from an IP address routed through multiple compromised servers or relays, and have any reason for doing anything. This includes just making up stuff to posting photoshopped images to posting links to malware and keyloggers.
If you don't understand the difference, you're either an idiot or a troll.
So you think that CCP will not try understate the impact this has had in the game, to make people stay in the game, for the sake of not losing too much profit....Like they did in the t20 case?
You are naive, and clearly lacking logic sense.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:40:00 -
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People dont seem to realize that we have 4 years of game development now that were done on the basis of this resource infusion being proper game operation.
Basically everything about current tech 2 production was created with allowances for the expoit.
If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 11/12/2008 22:41:05 oooh no it look like this bob pet wasnt banned because we never exploited
such a anti climax ... well maybe next time
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Renfrew Shrufan
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:42:00 -
[1199]
Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: royal killer But, 4 whole years....that's like 1460 days and nobody said anything! absurd. (didn't know about this btw.)
Well, this is what happens when your bug tracking/reporting system is closed to the membership. No accountability. Otherwise certainly a number of other parties would have realized the issue and insisted that it be addressed rather than it slipping under the rug (or being shoved under the rug).
If the whole "exploited for four years" thing is true anyway. I do agree with you though, I'd love to see Eve's defects go to... say bugzilla or some such - with critical exploits being private only until after they've been resolved. Then it's public to the world. There would be costs incurred to transition to that kind of defect tracking system, but I'm starting to think that it may be worth it just for credibility reasons.
Tbh, I think that it'd be a freakin' great trend if it caught on in the MMO world at large. Be a leader in the tech world in yet another way CCP!
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Ilda Mrika
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:46:00 -
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Taken from Viper ****zle @ SCH
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