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Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.12.11 22:53:00 -
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naa dont get scared about the title, it was just to mess with you. but this topic is about what would people think about it. Not a complete reset, everything resetted exept sp, or the skills would reset, you would get a sp pool of your current sp amount, all the skills would reset.
this idea has been there for me and i bet for several else, but first now ive kinda tought it might be a good idea (looking at the t2 fuzz thats going on right now, the hones players got screwed for 4 years) after the reset everyone starts just like a new player would, but when you train for example gunnery from 4>5 you get the choise of regulear train or use the sp from the pool, since people will train the skills they want (and after that dont got isk directly to buy new skillbooks that are expensive, so you dont loose sp over that duration of time,)
i think this would be refreshing, many will dislike it, many will like it, still this would never happen, but it would be fun.
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Alexander Universe
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:30:00 -
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An idea I've got that would be profitable for almost everybody.
This should be done with major publicity first. Lot's of adds everywhere. (More than now)
CCP would leave the Tranquility as it is after fixing the starbase exploit however they will. Then they would launch a second server which would basically be a resetted Tranquility. Subscribers would be allowed to play on each server (simultaneously if any should want).
The good side of this: There would be a bunch of new subscribers due to the balance on the new server between old and new players. I for example as a year old player would be very interested in playing on that server. Might even pay for extra account to have an alt. It would be real great for a new generation to start from the beginning since the cap between new and old starts to get too big and eventually the amount of new players per month will start to decrease gradually. People who don't like the "fails" on the current server could have a new fair beginning (referring to the starbase exploit)
A downside. The only downside I can imagine is the decrease of active players on Tranquility. But is that so bad really?
Anyways, think a bit before you say "EVE's point is to have it's playerbase in one world". Sure, I love it. But the playerbase can't grow with this cap between old and new players. In real life the old "players" die (sorry for drama). In EVE they basically live forever which means all new players are just playing a single role while old players manage the game and play whatever the role.
Adding a resetted server after every say 4-5 years would be great way to shrink the cap between old and new players. I've been looking for a solution for this cap and if someobdy would come up with a better idea that CCP would accept (there have been a few candidates), I would accept it too.
BTW if I don't get major flame or good reasons why this shouldn't be done I will probably post a topic about this every once in a while, should I get frustrated by the fact that I'm 4 years behind the veteran players and I CAN'T do anything about it.
Peace, out
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Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:59:00 -
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I wouldn't hesitate a single second to join new server....Current is f*cked up, and that's an understatement.
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Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:04:00 -
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i tought of that to first, but the money it cost to run such a sever as eve is run on (or servers) is pretty alot, and the bandwich is pretty big.
also getting to be as sp rich as everyone else in the game would atract people who didnt subscribe to the game since for that skill point reason.
and starting a new server, and starting with base skillpoints would be as fun, but still more fun than tq with 20-30k sp. ====== * Your signature file is too large. Please note: we allow signature files no larger than 400x120 pixels - Fallout |
Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:14:00 -
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btw, I have to add....and this is costy too for CCP...
New server should be new galaxy. Or it will all come down to who knows where all the goodies are.
CCP has to pay a price too though....It's them who screwed up in first place, not the exploiters...they only followed CCP's exploit.
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Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Baske btw, I have to add....and this is costy too for CCP...
New server should be new galaxy. Or it will all come down to who knows where all the goodies are.
CCP has to pay a price too though....It's them who screwed up in first place, not the exploiters...they only followed CCP's exploit.
or you could randomize the atributes of all the moon so that the moons are in the same places but they do not have the same stuffzor ====== * Your signature file is too large. Please note: we allow signature files no larger than 400x120 pixels - Fallout |
Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.12 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon
Originally by: Baske btw, I have to add....and this is costy too for CCP...
New server should be new galaxy. Or it will all come down to who knows where all the goodies are.
CCP has to pay a price too though....It's them who screwed up in first place, not the exploiters...they only followed CCP's exploit.
or you could randomize the atributes of all the moon so that the moons are in the same places but they do not have the same stuffzor
True...
But more than this needs randomization then. A hell of a lot of stuff I haven't got the brains at 6am to deliver promptly.
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Kiki Arnolds
Caldari Allied Caprican Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.12 05:18:00 -
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Eve can already seem like an empty place, we don't need the player base split over 2 servers... ç¦ |
Huan CK
Gallente Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:11:00 -
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I have worked hard for my goals, and yet have to achieve some. If you'd reset the game, I'd go elsewhere.
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Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Huan CK I have worked hard for my goals, and yet have to achieve some. If you'd reset the game, I'd go elsewhere.
If they don't, at least partially, I will go elsewhere :)
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Nnamuachs
Caldari Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Huan CK I have worked hard for my goals, and yet have to achieve some. If you'd reset the game, I'd go elsewhere.
If they don't, at least partially, I will go elsewhere :)
more players would quit if they reset the statistics than if they didn't. So no... i've put alot of time and money for my characters and if i had to go back to 0 i would consider that nothing less than theft.
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Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nnamuachs
Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Huan CK I have worked hard for my goals, and yet have to achieve some. If you'd reset the game, I'd go elsewhere.
If they don't, at least partially, I will go elsewhere :)
more players would quit if they reset the statistics than if they didn't. So no... i've put alot of time and money for my characters and if i had to go back to 0 i would consider that nothing less than theft.
You might be right, you might be wrong, though I am inclined to think you are right here.
But, I am talking partially reset. (Like you keep SP, you get xx amount of isk depending on game time as some of the obvious ideas).
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Nnamuachs
Caldari Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.12.12 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Nnamuachs
Originally by: Baske
Originally by: Huan CK I have worked hard for my goals, and yet have to achieve some. If you'd reset the game, I'd go elsewhere.
If they don't, at least partially, I will go elsewhere :)
more players would quit if they reset the statistics than if they didn't. So no... i've put alot of time and money for my characters and if i had to go back to 0 i would consider that nothing less than theft.
You might be right, you might be wrong, though I am inclined to think you are right here.
But, I am talking partially reset. (Like you keep SP, you get xx amount of isk depending on game time as some of the obvious ideas).
So would you keep your assets as well? or no... because if you did.. then alot of players would then be exhorbitantly rich if they kept all their assets and got an isk dividend dependent on their age... if not, then alot of players would still quit because they'd have lost billions in assets.. probably more than what they'd get as an isk dividend.. there is no winning situation to resetting anything on a massive scale.
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Baske
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Posted - 2008.12.12 15:56:00 -
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*snipped some to avoid pyramid quoting*
Originally by: Nnamuachs So would you keep your assets as well? or no... because if you did.. then alot of players would then be exhorbitantly rich if they kept all their assets and got an isk dividend dependent on their age... if not, then alot of players would still quit because they'd have lost billions in assets.. probably more than what they'd get as an isk dividend.. there is no winning situation to resetting anything on a massive scale.
There is no winning situation no matter what action is done. I think everyone aggrees on this. But just doing the ban thing, wont fix the inbalance in any f*cking way, and you should know that.
No, don't keep assets, but older players, should have more isk available than younger players, to reflect their time in game making isk.
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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.12.12 21:20:00 -
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dude.. lemme keep my SP and my isk.. and i dont care
take away the 7 billion i earned... i will be very angry _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Navigator ([email protected]) |
Midday Toker
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Posted - 2008.12.12 21:52:00 -
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Dont forget about the cost for the infastructure. CCP's multi-million dollar server farm already has enough trouble trying to run this one single shard. Theres no way they could run 2 TQ shards on the same equipment with out having some serious lag issues.
And quite frankly this would destroy what makes eve great. That it is one universe, 1 shard. And i would much much rather see them spend that money making the current server better, then giving a bunch of whiny noobs a new server to find out they still suck.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2008.12.12 22:09:00 -
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A little thing called single-sharding. It's one of the things that make EVE unique in the MMO market... --- Player Deadspace: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=940302 Multiplayer missions: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=944091 |
Red zeon
Caldari Circle of Shadows Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.12.13 13:16:00 -
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why even ask if you keep the isk and items, man, would it really be a reset if everyone kept theyr stuff? ====== * Your signature file is too large. Please note: we allow signature files no larger than 400x120 pixels - Fallout |
Camdim
Caldari The first genesis INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.12.13 16:14:00 -
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I would suggest the following if they did a server reset I really can't see any other fair way to do this then what I have below:
Every player would be set to thier starting career skill point ( the current one not the older ones ). Skill points over that amount would go into a skill point pool that the player could then allocate as they see fit to the various skills. Skill books for any skills known at the time of the reset would be given to the player automatically.
All assest would be turn into cash at the current highest value for each player. Corp assests would be sold the same and divided between the corp members based on the time they have been in the corp.
Everyone would then start with the cash they have earned and the cash and time they have put into thier corp.
All cyberware would be removed and sold and have to be earned again.
All faction points and standings would be set to the level you start with as a new character.
The universe would need a total overhaul. All moons and systems and even the empires would/should be redone and placed somewhat diffrently. This would in effect give a whole new universe to explore and develop.
Now just because that is the fair way of doing it doesn't mean it should or should not happen. Just that is the only way to do it fairly IMHO.
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2008.12.13 17:13:00 -
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well eventually the older players will die... __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.13 21:51:00 -
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no. This is a really bad idea. The game would change so radically for people who have poured a lot of time and effort into it that CCP would probably be facing a few hundred lawsuits since through ETC trading you can equate the value of assets to RL cash. Corps that have invested a lot of time in building infrastructure would fall apart as their POS and equipment vanished, the market would be completely screwed as ALL t2 items would be as rare as they were to start with and prohibitively expensive as the construction components would be unavailable.
again, no
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