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PaaDii
Swedish Aerospace Inc G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:02:00 -
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I am looking for a useable fitting for the Widow black op ship. Can't get any ideas on fittings myself. My focus will be ECM and command I belive.
And I don't want to hear anything about that its a bad ship and such, already know it.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:12:00 -
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highs: Eve-Search Mids: Is your Lows: Friend
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: PaaDii My focus will be ECM and command I belive.
I get the ECM part, what do you mean "command"? Boink! |
Dyaven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:24:00 -
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Random EFT warrioring. Unsure on rigs.
[Widow, Widow] Damage Control II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Phase Inverter II ECM - Phase Inverter II ECM - Ion Field Projector II ECM - Ion Field Projector II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Improved Cloaking Device II 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo Covert Jump Portal Generator I
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
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Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau highs: Eve-Search Mids: Is your Lows: Friend
but all those other threads are just you ranting about how bad it is!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.12 17:50:00 -
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Lows: cargo expanders. Mids: whatever. Highs: covert cyno, jump bridge
You're a logistics ship. Fit for maximum cargo space to maximize your use of the jump portal. You have no plausible reason to ever take a Widow anywhere near combat, so it doesn't matter what else you fit. -----------
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PaaDii
Swedish Aerospace Inc G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.12 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: PaaDii My focus will be ECM and command I belive.
I get the ECM part, what do you mean "command"?
To direct and support SB or other covert ships.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.12.12 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Khandara Seraphim
Originally by: Waxau highs: Eve-Search Mids: Is your Lows: Friend
but all those other threads are just you ranting about how bad it is!
Hah! Ok, fair enough. You've proved you didnt just randomly post. But in any case, there are a few threads out there with all the details in them. Failing that, just browse the SHC forums. Theres a variety of setups there. More variety than you'll find on the eve-o ones.
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Leviathani Darkri
Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.12 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Leviathani Darkri on 12/12/2008 18:59:49 Widow:
[Widow, ratter] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II
100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Salvager I Improved Cloaking Device II
Capacitor Control Circuit I Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Ogre II x2
Meh...945 dps against blood raiders, made a pretty good sneaky ratter in delve...but I sold it because salvaging was a pain in the ass.
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Kakuremichi
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Posted - 2008.12.12 21:01:00 -
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command = ?
[Widow, torp/ecm gankninja] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Internal Force Field Array I 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II Covert Jump Portal Generator I /OFFLINE
Particle Dispersion Augmentor II Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Hammerhead II x5
Some stats: Jammers have 9.5 strength, 10.2 overloaded, tank can be overloaded for 2 minutes for a 660k dps tank (1k with hg crystal set), 760 dps without implants.
Usage: 1. Get friend in rapier w/covert cyno 2. Apply friend in rapier liberally to target until an even spread of paint/web/point is achieved 3. Apply torps/ecm liberally to target after jump through 4. Profit?
Other notes: Don't use it for anything other than 2v1 ganks unless you can afford to instantly rebuild it.
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Rajere
No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 06:28:00 -
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[Widow, Non-fail Widow 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Target Painter II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Wasp EC-900 x2 Vespa EC-600 x2 Hornet EC-300 x1
Some stats: Better chance to get a jam than a griffin (unlike the fit posted above, or any other fit that actually puts ecm modules on a widow lol) 100k EHP, 950ish overheated DPS with 3% hardwiring in.
-------------------------- NOTR
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2008.12.13 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven Random EFT warrioring. Unsure on rigs.
[Widow, Widow] Damage Control II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Phase Inverter II ECM - Phase Inverter II ECM - Ion Field Projector II ECM - Ion Field Projector II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Improved Cloaking Device II 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo Covert Jump Portal Generator I
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
I'm not a big fan of fitting a tank to a 500 million isk ship either.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.12.13 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere [Widow, Non-fail Widow 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Target Painter II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Wasp EC-900 x2 Vespa EC-600 x2 Hornet EC-300 x1
Some stats: Better chance to get a jam than a griffin (unlike the fit posted above, or any other fit that actually puts ecm modules on a widow lol) 100k EHP, 950ish overheated DPS with 3% hardwiring in.
Holy cow man! Just get a raven, max out your cloaking skills and get a faction or officer cloak instead!
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Kakuremichi
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Posted - 2008.12.13 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere [Widow, Non-fail Widow 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Target Painter II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Wasp EC-900 x2 Vespa EC-600 x2 Hornet EC-300 x1
Some stats: Better chance to get a jam than a griffin (unlike the fit posted above, or any other fit that actually puts ecm modules on a widow lol) 100k EHP, 950ish overheated DPS with 3% hardwiring in.
This fit doesn't fulfil my intended role requirements, though were I to want to be using the blackops as you do, I would likely fit more along these lines.
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Rajere
No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rajere on 13/12/2008 14:09:36
Quote: Holy cow man! Just get a raven, max out your cloaking skills and get a faction or officer cloak instead!
As soon as they give ravens a jump drive I'll be sure to do that.
Oh wait, was that the sound of you failing? my mistake. lolz at people who think the widow is anything other than a raven with a jump drive (or that the redeemer isn't a geddon with a jump drive, the sin isn't a dominix, etc etc) -------------------------- NOTR
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.12.13 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 13/12/2008 14:09:36
Quote: Holy cow man! Just get a raven, max out your cloaking skills and get a faction or officer cloak instead!
As soon as they give ravens a jump drive I'll be sure to do that.
Oh wait, was that the sound of you failing? my mistake. lolz at people who think the widow is anything other than a raven with a jump drive (or that the redeemer isn't a geddon with a jump drive, the sin isn't a dominix, etc etc)
You obviously do think of it as a raven with a jump drive dude or you'd be trying to make a setup that at least uses some of its EW capabilities.
If you want something that just tanks and shoots and uses a jump drive train for one of the other types.
Also I'm 17 days from Black-ops 5 and I know damn well when I use them I'm better at it than you ever will be!
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Rajere
No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 13/12/2008 14:09:36
Quote: Holy cow man! Just get a raven, max out your cloaking skills and get a faction or officer cloak instead!
As soon as they give ravens a jump drive I'll be sure to do that.
Oh wait, was that the sound of you failing? my mistake. lolz at people who think the widow is anything other than a raven with a jump drive (or that the redeemer isn't a geddon with a jump drive, the sin isn't a dominix, etc etc)
You obviously do think of it as a raven with a jump drive dude or you'd be trying to make a setup that at least uses some of its EW capabilities.
If you want something that just tanks and shoots and uses a jump drive train for one of the other types.
Also I'm 17 days from Black-ops 5 and I know damn well when I use them I'm better at it than you ever will be!
That's nice, who is your blackops pilot again? as it obviously isn't the character you are posting as since you have 0 kills with a widow. You do have 93 kills with a falcon though and a few with a raven, which leaves me to believe you're full of sh#t, but who knows maybe you have 2 identically spec'd characters.
Oh wait, lolz, "when you start using them you'll be better than me" lol. So you admit you're a clueless nub when it comes to blackops and have no business posting in this thread, thanks for confirming what was obvious to me by your post.
Please be sure to post your loss mail when you take your no-tank widow out for a stroll, thanks. -------------------------- NOTR
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 17:47:00 -
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In the same sense you can portal 50 stealthbombers to do your "dps" you donut. Boink! |
Khorin D'tael
Caldari D'tael Contracts
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Posted - 2008.12.13 17:48:00 -
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OMG Rajere you are the funniest person on this forum. ive seen you spouting off before and arguing with people who have more of a clue than you about things. I just you looked you both up on battleclinic as well he fits falcons better than you do. Some of your falcon losses dont even have 1 ecm fitted you muppet. why dont you wardec him and prove you are better im sure his corp will make it mutual. now I see why so many people think your an idiot and dont even bother arguing with you anymore. link a km with you in a widow as well because 1 thing i do fail at is not finding it in battleclinic.
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uzumoreru
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Khorin D'tael OMG Rajere you are the funniest person on this forum. ive seen you spouting off before and arguing with people who have more of a clue than you about things. I just you looked you both up on battleclinic as well he fits falcons better than you do. Some of your falcon losses dont even have 1 ecm fitted you muppet. why dont you wardec him and prove you are better im sure his corp will make it mutual. now I see why so many people think your an idiot and dont even bother arguing with you anymore. link a km with you in a widow as well because 1 thing i do fail at is not finding it in battleclinic.
Without bothering to look them up myself to check if they are the same ones:
have a guess what those falcons are used for, given that they have lots of extenders, resist mods, and cynos fitted....
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