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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:28:00 -
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Purpose is a gang dps boat.
I fly Caldari blaster boats, where speed and until recently, agility were killers for my play style. While I could make up for it with superior range, I just don't want to rely on flying a Raven to get a 1000 DPS battleship.
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II *Tracking Enhancer II* (for NULL ammo) Power Diagnostic Unit II Internal Force Field Array
100MN MWD II Warp Disruptor II (Might go for scram - then with the extra CPU fit a 4th Mag stab - depends if squad has a HIC/Arazu) 2x Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II
8x Neutron Blaster Cannon II (CN Antimatter, Null)
3x Core Defence Field Extender
4x Berserker SW-900 (Webbing Drones)
~1100 dps from turrets alone at 5.2km + 13km falloff ~850 dps from NULL at 13km + 16km falloff
Top Speed is 996 m/s - 1425 m/s overheated - way more than a typical armor plated Hyperion. Slightly more agile too. Far more likely to get into optimals in time. More so the case with NULL ammo.
1-dimensional - lack of utility mid slots means you're vulnerable to ECM.
Weak tank - only about 87,000 effective HP.
I sacrificed drone DPS because I would intend for this setup to engage under sentry fire, so I'd like to keep as much of my dps going as possible.
Yes I know - no web. I'd use NULL for ranged combat - also I still have 4 webbing drones - I've used 2 on my Rokh and 3 on my Raven with decent results - even if I lose some to sentry fire. Fact is webs aren't what they used to be so I'm not too upset over losing them.
I'd probably adjust this setup to have a short range scram and a 4th MFS II to just outright NUKE the primary.
Thoughts? Flames? Discuss.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:39:00 -
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The 4th webber drone is practicaly worthless. Go for a painting drone instead. Boink! |
Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo The 4th webber drone is practicaly worthless. Go for a painting drone instead.
Excellent idea - however I was thinking of it as a spare if sentries pop them. Good point outside of sentries though.
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Myra2007
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Myra2007 on 13/12/2008 18:55:39 Edited by: Myra2007 on 13/12/2008 18:55:08 Was going to write a whole lot about got confused on the way.
Few questions:
Why does that fit appear to use only 5 meds?
How come you only have 87k ehp? With max skills you should get something like 104k and that is not using said extra med slot.
How come you have so much dps? I only get 681 dps with null and 855 with cn antimatter.
And without the te you should have 10 + 13 with cn antimatter and 17 + 16 with null.
I mean maybe you used your own skills instead of maxed ones but for that your gunnery skills would have to be well gigantic and your tank skills horrific.
Or maybe i am just too damn stupid to use eft. I have no idea but one of us must have made some pretty big errors.
However its late here so don't take anything i say for granted. I could just be too tired to get it right...
edit: ok found one error and edited it but still doesn't fit your numbers :( --
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.12.13 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 13/12/2008 18:58:03
Originally by: Myra2007 Was going to write a whole lot about got confused on the way.
Few questions:
Why does that fit appear to use only 5 meds?
As to that and the rest of your questions, are you sure your not confusing the hyperion with the rokh?.
Check the thread title.....
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Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2008.12.13 19:03:00 -
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If its for gang DPS then drop the 2 invulns for something else (tracking disruptors, tracking computers, scram, sensor boosters, etc).
For gang fighting (where I expect to be more concerned with killing someone fast than surviving heavy fire) I'd do something like this:
[Hyperion, Blasterion] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation, Scan Resolution Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x4
Or this :
[Hyperion, Ewar Blasterion] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x4
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Enden Assulu
Caldari JinTech Industries Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.12.14 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Enden Assulu on 14/12/2008 18:57:39 Like you siad you are caldari and you fly have flown a rokh. Lets continue on that path and fit the rokh. (It is probalby worth mentioning that a buffer hype it stupid especially under sentry fire, it is also beaten by the far superior buffer mega)
Any way lets fit a rokh instead of pretneding the hyperion is a rokh:
[Fittings.]
Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II,Cap Booster 800 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I X-Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Ion Blaster Cannon II,Void L Ion Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II,Void L
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
5x Hammerhead II
Probably alot better than the hype you are trying to fit...
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.14 18:59:00 -
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Ummm, for buffer tanks you probably want a mega over the hype because on the hype your wasting a rep bonus.
As for the setup itself it is surprising for a ship thats not suppose to shield buffer, but still not on par with buffer tanked gank boats.
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Neyro7830
Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.
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Posted - 2008.12.14 19:08:00 -
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I support any gank-hype fits solely based on the awesomeness that is the Hyperion hull.
o_- ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3 |
The Vixen
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Posted - 2008.12.14 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u Ummm, for buffer tanks you probably want a mega over the hype because on the hype your wasting a rep bonus.
this.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.15 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: The Vixen
Originally by: goodby4u Ummm, for buffer tanks you probably want a mega over the hype because on the hype your wasting a rep bonus.
this.
So is the fact that I'm sacrificing absolute buffer not worth the much higher speed and agility so I can get into gank range in the first place a whole lot faster?
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.12.15 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Originally by: The Vixen
Originally by: goodby4u Ummm, for buffer tanks you probably want a mega over the hype because on the hype your wasting a rep bonus.
this.
So is the fact that I'm sacrificing absolute buffer not worth the much higher speed and agility so I can get into gank range in the first place a whole lot faster?
But if you are by your own admission a caldari pilot, you can fly the Rokh.. why the frick are in a shield buffer Hyperion using Null L of all things?
Sure you are roughly 150 m/s ish faster than a Rokh w/ a bit more agility, but you lose optimal and you lose buffer for it.
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Xori Ruscuv
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.15 07:50:00 -
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Just get a Rokh.
1. Range is FAR better. Range is where it's at these days. Sacrificing some damage for some range is a-okay... Remember, BS move like paralytic slugs now. You need the range. Mid-range is god, that's why Amarr is so damn good right now.
2. Way better shield resists, implying far better shield tank.
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