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Toad Vine
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Posted - 2008.12.14 16:42:00 -
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I find, very often, when I warp to 0 to a listed field it just isn't there. Last night I spent the better part of an hour looking for fields that never were there. I did this across about 4 systems. This seems so counter to playing the game I am assuming it is a dumb mistake on my part. Is there any particular skill, module, etc. I can obtain that will let me locate fields with accuracy? I did read that the fields do have orbits so am I perhaps warping to the proper orbit but the field has "moved on"? Also I am aware that the particular field I might be interested in is simply depleted; but last night there were an awful lot of depleted fields. Thanks for any input.
The Toad
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Dentresss
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Posted - 2008.12.14 17:15:00 -
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You are probly going to belts that have been stripped already.
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Einstein's Ghost
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Posted - 2008.12.14 17:18:00 -
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Sometimes you can come across a "hidden" belt when either the asteroids or the warp in beacon are displaced relative to each other. The distance can be anywhere from 1000 to 3000 km. The roids are still there, just get an interceptor and see if you can find any.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
Scoopex
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Posted - 2008.12.14 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Einstein's Ghost Sometimes you can come across a "hidden" belt when either the asteroids or the warp in beacon are displaced relative to each other. The distance can be anywhere from 1000 to 3000 km. The roids are still there, just get an interceptor and see if you can find any.
never heard of that in two years of mining, which makes me wonder what he's been smoking.
Anyways, if you warp to belt and don't see roids, that means they've all been mined out already by other people.
Move further away towards the edges of the empire and you'll start seeing full belts. ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk. |
Ravenal
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.12.14 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Originally by: Einstein's Ghost Sometimes you can come across a "hidden" belt when either the asteroids or the warp in beacon are displaced relative to each other. The distance can be anywhere from 1000 to 3000 km. The roids are still there, just get an interceptor and see if you can find any.
never heard of that in two years of mining, which makes me wonder what he's been smoking.
This is indeed true.. sometimes the roid belt is places such that it extends out of grid creating a "hidden" belt ... those HUGE belts are rare in empire though, had them several times in 0.0. . |
Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.14 19:37:00 -
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the 'hidden belts' are not so much that they are truely hidden, it's just that some are outside of overview range (off grid). If you warp to them, you still see a large portion of the belt, ther just moght be more outside what you can see.
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Einstein's Ghost
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Posted - 2008.12.14 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth the 'hidden belts' are not so much that they are truely hidden, it's just that some are outside of overview range (off grid). If you warp to them, you still see a large portion of the belt, ther just moght be more outside what you can see.
Not necessarily. Just the other day I had to scan down a belt, which wasn't showing anywhere near the warp in point. And I am completely certain that no one mined it for ages. Managed to find only 20 or so roids 1000 km away. Still can't find the rest. I am considering petitioning it
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Toad Vine
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Posted - 2008.12.15 00:40:00 -
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Thanks for the information. What scanning skills are helpful in locating particular items in space; like asteroid fields, etc.?
The Toad
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cynasaurus
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Posted - 2008.12.15 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: cynasaurus on 15/12/2008 03:39:45
Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Originally by: Einstein's Ghost Sometimes you can come across a "hidden" belt when either the asteroids or the warp in beacon are displaced relative to each other. The distance can be anywhere from 1000 to 3000 km. The roids are still there, just get an interceptor and see if you can find any.
never heard of that in two years of mining, which makes me wonder what he's been smoking.
Anyways, if you warp to belt and don't see roids, that means they've all been mined out already by other people. Move further away towards the edges of the empire and you'll start seeing full belts.
how stupid do you look
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2008.12.15 05:08:00 -
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That's right, asteroids will never spawn hundreds to thousands of km away from the warp in point. No sir, never.
Move along, nothing to see here. Just move on to another system, the belt must have been mined out.
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Jarlath Zaid
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Posted - 2008.12.15 06:48:00 -
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I too have seen roid field clear the heck out of the way, several hundred km, a good example was jouvulen. As for the off the map roids, I'm guessin you need to find them like you would a gravimetric anomoly, scan them down. Cheers!
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Lyvanna Kitaen
Minmatar Noonday Sun Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.15 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jarlath Zaid I too have seen roid field clear the heck out of the way, several hundred km, a good example was jouvulen. As for the off the map roids, I'm guessin you need to find them like you would a gravimetric anomoly, scan them down. Cheers!
AFAIK, you wouldn't be able to use a grav probe since the belt is not an exploration one. I never pick up regular static belts when scanning with probes. I think you'd just have to fly around and luck into finding it unless there is a way to use the ship scanner to do it.
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bigsteve
Minmatar STK Scientific The Initiative.
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Posted - 2008.12.15 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn That's right, asteroids will never spawn hundreds to thousands of km away from the warp in point. No sir, never.
Move along, nothing to see here. Just move on to another system, the belt must have been mined out.
Oh How Wrong you are!!!!! i have seem Plenty of Off Grid Belts in my time mining... The Off Grid ones are the best,
Although I Believe that CCP fixed them ages ago though, well they said they did.... ===== * Your signature file is broken. Please replace it with an image that works - Fallout |
Iosue
Brau Haus
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Posted - 2008.12.15 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Toad Vine Thanks for the information. What scanning skills are helpful in locating particular items in space; like asteroid fields, etc.?
The Toad
I believe Survey (Electronics) is the appropriate skill to train for scanning roid fields.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
Scoopex
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Posted - 2008.12.15 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: cynasaurus Edited by: cynasaurus on 15/12/2008 03:39:45
Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Originally by: Einstein's Ghost Sometimes you can come across a "hidden" belt when either the asteroids or the warp in beacon are displaced relative to each other. The distance can be anywhere from 1000 to 3000 km. The roids are still there, just get an interceptor and see if you can find any.
never heard of that in two years of mining, which makes me wonder what he's been smoking.
Anyways, if you warp to belt and don't see roids, that means they've all been mined out already by other people. Move further away towards the edges of the empire and you'll start seeing full belts.
how stupid do you look
Not as stupid as you now. ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk. |
Cheopis
Amarr One Stop Mining Shop One Stop Research
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:42:00 -
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There seems to be some confusion here.
I can verify with 100% certainty that as recently as a few months ago, there were non-exploration hidden belts in at least a couple systems in Fountain.
I can also verify that they were self-renewing.
I can even verify that these belts appear to have been at one time an offgrid extension of a "permanent" belt.
I don't know what has been done since that time to affect offgrid / hidden belts in 0.0
I've never bothered to look for offgrid belts in highsec, because I was never silly enough to try to mine in places where there weren't lots of available belts. The highsec fringes of Amarr space are loaded with quite a large number of very nice belts, especially in systems with no station.
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Shuari
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Posted - 2008.12.16 18:41:00 -
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You can still find off-grid belts. I have a few bookmarked in 0.0 spce and hit them after every 'roid re-spawn.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.12.16 20:20:00 -
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From the patch notes to Empyrean Age 1.1:
Quote: Asteroid belts in some starter systems have had the asteroid spawn placements rectified. Asteroids should no longer be hundreds of kilometers away from the warp in point.
I'm sure I remember another patch note about off-grid 'roids, but I can't find it now. Maybe I imagined it.
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