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Arcelian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:53:00 -
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Hi, I've been running missions a lot lately, pretty much solo the whole time and I've just gotten to the point where I can do level 4's.
Having some difficulties though, I can handle the large battleships/cruisers no problem but the frigates are giving me a hard time. They stasis/warp scramble and there is at least 6 or 7 of them swarming me.
I thought it would be a good tactic to take off the large pulse lasers I had and fit some tachyon beams for long range, two small pulse lasers and two medium pulse lasers to hit the frigates. Well, I'm still not doing enough damage to the frigates, even with drones their shields recharge faster than the drones can damage them. Combined with the smaller lasers I can manage to pick some off, but only very slowly.
So I'm looking for suggestions as to what I can do to kill these frigates more effectively. They orbit at about 9k meters, at high speeds.
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knifee
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: knifee on 16/12/2008 09:58:27
Train up the basic drone skills and take out a set of light scout drones, pick the drones for their dmg type.
5 scout drones with only basic skills shouldn't have any problems killing off the frigs for you.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:58:00 -
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Drones, drones and even more drones. Seriously, drones. And did I mention T2 drones ?
Train at least :
* Combat Drone Operation 4
* Drone Interfacing 4
* Scout Drone Operation 5
* Gallente and Caldari Drone Specialisation 2
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Universe At War
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Posted - 2008.12.16 10:09:00 -
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Alternatively, get someone in a small ship to jump in when you have the aggro and take care of the frigs for you.
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Taradis
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2008.12.16 10:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Akita T
Drones, drones and even more drones. Seriously, drones. And did I mention T2 drones ?
Train at least :
* Combat Drone Operation 4
* Drone Interfacing 4
* Scout Drone Operation 5
* Gallente and Caldari Drone Specialisation 2
This and don't forget the drones they do come in handy
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.12.16 13:36:00 -
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<Drone mania>
Absolutely, drones are the answer to this. If you're getting in a battleship, it's imperative that you have decent drones skills as your large weapons will not be able to hit frigates (and using anything other than large weapons on a mission battleship is a bad idea). Akita's targets are very good and realistic; the obvious skills to prioritise in the short term are Drones 5 (you need to be able to field a full flight, and this lets you get the first few levels of Drone Interfacing very quickly even if you can't take it to 4 right away) and Scout Drone Operation 5 (T2 drones are much much better).
Originally by: Arcelian
I thought it would be a good tactic to take off the large pulse lasers I had and fit some tachyon beams for long range, two small pulse lasers and two medium pulse lasers to hit the frigates.
This is really not a good idea. You are crippling your ability against larger targets in exchange for some small amount of effectiveness against the frigates. Stick with all large beams in your highs (you will probably need to fit megabeams and/or some dual heavy beams unless you have excellent fitting skills), and let the drones take care of the smaller stuff. All of the Amarrian battleships have enough drone bay for at least one full flight of light drones and a full flight of mediums, so even if you find you have issues with the cruisers, medium drones will finish them off easily.
Really, train up the drone skills and focus your heavy turret fire on the big targets. (Or, even better, hit the frigates with turrets while they're a long way away - you can often instapop frigates from 70km or so with beams. Switch to destroyers and then cruisers once the frigates are gone, as you'll hit them a lot more solidly at long range. Of course this is a general guideline and depending on what aggroes you, its effective damage from different ranges and the sturdiness of your tank you may need to pop battlecruisers/battleships early to get incoming DPS down to manageable levels. Just don't miss out on the opportunity to take out small ships early where possible.)
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente
Snake Eyes Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:24:00 -
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Definately follow the drone suggestions.
You can also increase the effectiveness of your big guns against small targets with a stasis webifier and/or target painter. The webber slows them down, and the painter increases their signature radius, both of which make it easier for your big guns to track and hit them.
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Ravenesa
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:45:00 -
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Couple pieces of advice regarding dealing with the smaller ships as an Amarr pilot. (I started Caldari but switched to Amarr quickly)
1. Drones... Read the above posts. If you you cannot fly 5 lights, preferably T2, then you are screwed. Drone Navigation helps too since it makes them move faster.
2. Engage at range, kill frigs first. Due to the nature of NPC's they fly right at you. As long as they have not hit orbit distance you should be able to pick them off if you have decent tracking skills, especially with Pulse lasers. You will usually one shot them. I like Radio/Infrared crystals for this. Any frig at 25km+ can easily be engaged by Large Pulses. One of their main advantages IMO. Destroyer class NPC's can be hit at 15kmish, but might take a few shots. Either way the farther away they are, the easier they are to kill
3. More Drones! Honestly... 1-2 weeks in drones and you will be fine
4. Never ever mix your high slot weapons. You lose out on the weapon bonus of the ship. If anything back down to the smaller versions of the Large weapon class. They will have better tracking, but you give up some damage and range.
5. Drones... For the love of god USE DRONES!
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:40:00 -
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Sensor Booster, Target Painter, Webifier. One helps you lock the frigates faster, the other two help your drones kill things faster.
Once the frigates are dead, you can use the target painter for your own benefit against battlecruisers and battleships.
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