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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2008.12.16 20:39:00 -
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2nd CSM Formal Meeting 4 - Saturday 20th December. 16:00 hours Eve Time.
Agenda:
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
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CSM Raised ISSUEs - (CSM Delegates must 1. Reply to this thread listing the ISSUE name and Assembly Hall thread they wish to advocate AND 2. Supply the ISSUE in templated form to CSM mailing list by 16:00 hours Thurday 18st Dec to be heard in the subsequent meeting.)
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8.
POPULAR Issue (Biggest unaddressed Assembly Hall Issue – will be added after CSM raised ISSUEs.)
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AOB (Any other business) (additions can be submitted prior 16:00 hours Thurday 18st Dec)
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All CSM delegates and Alternates are invited to attend.
Can I ask the moderation team to pay special attention to this thread please and ensure that it is kept free of trolling, flaming and personal attacks and is able to serve its intended purpose of allowing CSM delegates to list the ISSUEs they wish to be heard in the next meeting and for members of the Eve public to ask questions in a respectful and civil tone.
Thank you
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:11:00 -
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Vuk,
There are a couple of issues I need to write into the template form and catch someone to co-submit with, however due to RL exams on Thursday/Friday could I ask for some leeway with the submission deadline to Saturday Morning (e.g. DT)?
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:46:00 -
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not sure if it's AOB or Popular issue, but as suggested in the meeting on Sunday can we add the following please: CCP's policy of not Naming and Shaming CCP Doing Weekly/Monthly Announcements of #'s of banning and GM statistics
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Bunyip
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Posted - 2008.12.17 06:20:00 -
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Edited by: Bunyip on 17/12/2008 06:27:37 Rescinded for now....will pick something else...
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.12.17 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Bunyip The issue I plan to raise is listed here:
POSes: Flogging the dead horse
Given CCP's attention to redesigning graphics, I can't see why this has been put by the wayside for so long.
We already raised that during last CSM.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.12.17 11:38:00 -
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Well the ideas I wanted to bring up included:
Add 'view contracts': http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=940033
Improving fleet interface: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=943244
Will get them written up as soon as I can, exams permitting!
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:15:00 -
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I think almost all of us are tied with RL crap so you can submit all isues till friday evening.
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.12.19 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Bunyip The issue I plan to raise is listed here:
POSes: Flogging the dead horse
Given CCP's attention to redesigning graphics, I can't see why this has been put by the wayside for so long.
We already raised that during last CSM.
That's right, even though we just learned the things we learned about POS, and just because CCP told CSM and players who want POS redesign to basically "shove it" - we need to play nice and go away.
Don't any sensible CSM thinks that you guys sometimes should not take NO for an answer? After all you do represent the community, and as such, if CCP tells you NO, on the issue that has been raised, and supported for well over 2 years, going on 3, you should try and bring it back to CCP, and tell them, SORRY, WE WANT SOME ANSWERS, a DETAILED DEV BLOG on why NO, so players can assess the situation for themselves, and not just take CCP's excuse of "it would take too much work."
Just wondering out loud here CSM guys, I mean, how hard is it to mention to CCP over and over, if necessary, to take care of the community?
And, I am certain, 100% certain, that should have CCP started working on the POS issue from one end, they probably would have discovered the current "scandalous exploit" sooner than 3 weeks ago. But, as they said, it is "TOO MUCH WORK" and CSM just walked away.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2008.12.22 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Omber Zombie on 22/12/2008 11:01:11 I've gone for less tit-for-tat style general summary this time around after a few people commented that it was pretty boring reading the last few times. If people prefer the old way, let me know and I'll go back to that.
Council of Stellar Management Meeting Minutes Download: .doc .pdf | chatlog: .doc .pdf
Saturday 20th December 2008 Present: Ankhesentepemkah, Bunyip, Darius JOHNSON, Extreme, Issler Dainze, LaVista Vista, Meissa Anunthiel, Omber Zombie, Scagga Laebetrovo, Vily, Vuk Lau Apologies: Pattern Clarc, Tusko Hopkins
I.Announcements / Elections none II. Popular Issue none III.Discussion Ore Distribution û Bunyip Bunyip raised the issue of a new ore distribution system in an effort to make all ores available in all areas of space. After a lot of discussion regarding this proposal, it was decided to postpone the issue to the next session due to concerns from various members regarding the inclusion of high end ores being available in empire space. The issue will be re-written to be more broad in that the CSM would like to discuss the ore distribution system with CCP, but without a specific proposal. Vote: Deferred to next meeting
Suicide Ganking 2 û Ankhesentekempah (Ankhe) Ankhe raised this issue with no solutions as a discussion point û the general gist is that CCP promised to look at removing insurance from ships destroyed by CONCORD and CSM would like an update on that. The other part of the issue raised the point that while it has become more difficult to suicide gank in empire space, a loophole has been found and Ankhe considers the loophole to remove meaningful consequences for the actions of the suicide gankers. The CSM agreed that should be discussed with CCP. Vote: 9-0 for
IV.Any Other Business CCP's Policy of Not Naming People Banned CSM discussed the current policy and while undecided as to regards of whether naming should occur, believed that it should be discussed with CCP to clarify their stance on the issue and possibly explore changing it. Vote: 9-0 For
CCP Producing A Regular Report Regarding Bans, Petitions and other GM related Items An idea that was raised by Darius JOHNSON in the previous CSM/CCP meeting, CSM felt it was something worth discussing with CCP to see if it was feasible to produce a regular report (fortnightly, monthly, etc.) regarding GM activities eg. Amount of account banned, petitions answered, exploits removed etc. Vote: 9-0 For
Meeting End.
Minutes compiled by Omber Zombie. Any errors or omissions please contact him ([email protected]) ----------------------
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.04 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Well the ideas I wanted to bring up included:
Add 'view contracts': http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=940033
Improving fleet interface: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=943244
Will get them written up as soon as I can, exams permitting!
sucks scagga didnt get this in to be talked about
view contracts FTW! ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Tusko Hopkins
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Posted - 2009.01.05 21:12:00 -
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Dont worry we passed view contracts on meeting 5. I am going to post minutes soon.
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Tusko Hopkins
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tusko Hopkins on 05/01/2009 23:29:29 deleted |
Tusko Hopkins
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tusko Hopkins on 05/01/2009 23:29:19 deleted |
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