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Jubal Erlie
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:19:00 -
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Just wondering if anyone had tried both. I've always just used the DPS rigs with a dual repper set up. I actually like the dual rep set up quite a bit. It is a little hair raising watching your armor go from 30% to 70 % to 30% to 70% to kissing structure to 50% and so on and so forth. Seems to me that putting the Nano pump or the Nano Accel will give you a fairly significant boost, but dramatically slows down your ship (no bueno for tackling) and you drop a decent amount of DPS also. Which always can make a guy sad. Given that at least the dual repper tank I currently run really only helps me against 1v1 battles. I'm not sure I want to lose the functionality of the extra DPS and speed. Unless I am just totally wrong and those rigs make a night and day difference on the tank. Your thoughts please.
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arbalesttom
Rulers Of Mankind
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:25:00 -
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How about trying to do both? Ie, one tanking rig (accelerator because i guess you have more than enough cap to spare) and one damage (rof) rig? In that case you maybe can try to go with dual rep, 1 eanm, 1 dcu/eanm and a bcu. I dont fly the ship at all, but i know its a struggle between tank, gank and speed. Hope this was usefull at all... ***Sig***
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Solar Chase
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:32:00 -
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test server is your friend
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Claudius Lysias
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Posted - 2008.12.19 17:12:00 -
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(On my alts account) I did a little more testing on the tank. With my armor tank skills which are Ok Repper IV, Hull Upgrades V, Mech V, and passive resists to 2/3's I with: 2x MAR II's 2x EANM II's 1x DCU II Med Cap Booster II with 800's 2x Nano Accel. I rigs
With that tank set up and leaving the MWD off I was able to tank Domi with BS V, Drone interfacing V, and Ogre II's for as long as I had cap boosters, and with a cargo bay of 615, you can carry 15 with ease and have plenty of room for Ammo
I realize one heavy neut would ruin your whole day. But a 1600mm plate set up also wouldn't tank 25% the time of the dual repper set up. But it also drops the DPS by 53 with out bay loader and warhead rigs. So I'll keep messing with it. But I really would appreciate experiencial knowlege on the subject. As in practically how different set ups worked out for you in fights. Thanks
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Claudius Lysias
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Posted - 2008.12.28 16:55:00 -
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Bump, still trying to get some experiential input. Thanks
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Removal Tool
Reptilian Reality
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Posted - 2008.12.28 19:43:00 -
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If you even have to talk about skill levels, don't fly this ship. Might as well get a HAM drake if you want to absorb damage.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2008.12.28 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom How about trying to do both? Ie, one tanking rig (accelerator because i guess you have more than enough cap to spare) and one damage (rof) rig? In that case you maybe can try to go with dual rep, 1 eanm, 1 dcu/eanm and a bcu. I dont fly the ship at all, but i know its a struggle between tank, gank and speed. Hope this was usefull at all...
The accelerator rigs are very very rarely advicable for the simple reason that they provide no more rep per cycle. There's quite a bit of neuting going on today, that alone means the slight extra rep you get for an accelerator is really wasted since it will mean less rep whenever you do run into a neut.
And there's no such thing as extra cap really. The sac is normally quite balanced when it comes to cap, it can run most of its modules most of the time without modification. If there is cap to spare there's always a teammember to nos you or another such tactic that applies better than wasting cap for little to no gain.
Accelerators are however fine for PvE. Parrots, commence!
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Jubal Erlie
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Removal Tool If you even have to talk about skill levels, don't fly this ship. Might as well get a HAM drake if you want to absorb damage.
Well it's not so much wanting to just sit and absorb damage. The idea was more having a decent dps tank for short periods of time. Those "Oh crap I just want to de-agress and get back through the gate. Or the, Dang it, get here quick falcon!
But I was wondering if you meant that if I don't have all V's don't fly this? While I agree that the ship would be better with all V's I guess I'd rather lose a few ships having fun than hold out a year till I have 20mil sp and then start losing ships. Guess I figure I gotta learn sometime and if I can have fun doing it, so be it.
In reply to the next post yeah I got no answer to the neut issue. It's kinda like an interceptor I guess (in that respect alone) neut = bad day. Now with all Hull upgrades V, Repper V, Mech V, and all passives to 3 with nano accel's the tank is like 574, with pumps it's 537, I suppose that is a good comprimise to ease up on the cap situation. And with the t2 missiles it brings the DPS up to 300+.
With the nano accel set up I was able to stay completely in one location and tank a well skilled deimos with drones. So I guess that should be good enough.
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Removal Tool
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.12.29 18:55:00 -
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I think you should get in a BC, whichever one you like, while you get your other skills like armor rep to 5. I wouldn't want to be getting anything less than 500 DPS out of a HAC or BC. I'm not trying to dissuade you from this ship or any other, but it sounds like atm you would kick more ass in a BC which are far more forgiving than HACs generally.
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Galliana Foresta
Fleeting Moments of Insanity
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Posted - 2008.12.29 19:25:00 -
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EFT gives me 689 dps tanked with nano accelerators and my skills and implants.
EFT aside, experience tells me that accelerators are better than pumps, regardless of the proliferation of nos/neuts and other such nefarious tools of destruction.
HTH.
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Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:15:00 -
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I was referring to this "And with the t2 missiles it brings the DPS up to 300+."
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Jubal Erlie
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Galliana Foresta EFT gives me 689 dps tanked with nano accelerators and my skills and implants.
EFT aside, experience tells me that accelerators are better than pumps, regardless of the proliferation of nos/neuts and other such nefarious tools of destruction.
HTH.
Noice! Are those -5% to duration and +5% to amount? And is that also with T1 Accelerators or t2, and lastly is that passive resists to 5? Thanks!
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Jubal Erlie
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Posted - 2008.12.31 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Removal Tool I think you should get in a BC, whichever one you like, while you get your other skills like armor rep to 5. I wouldn't want to be getting anything less than 500 DPS out of a HAC or BC. I'm not trying to dissuade you from this ship or any other, but it sounds like atm you would kick more ass in a BC which are far more forgiving than HACs generally.
I may just do that. I have rep V Mech V Hull upgrades V and passives at 3. My question to you is does anyone get 500 DPS out of a Sac? If so is that with implants etc? On EFT with all V skills you get 396 with torrent fury missiles. I assume if you BCS that you'll get more but now you are sacrificing tank slots. I can't imagine you can get 500 dps with a 689 DPS tank. I really apprecaite the info guys, please don't let me weary you with my questions. your answers are very helpful.
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