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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.15 14:19:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:
Err...
Less miners + no drone minerals would be a catastrophe.
After the next patch, no miners = no minerals = no ships on market
Even though fairybairs have been singing this "We actually matter" song for years, fact was, eve would not have skipped a heartbeat if all miners stopped playing during the last 6-7 years. Finally, they may actually matter to the big eve picture. They told us so, but we didn't listen :)
That is all assuming ccp doesn't get bored of banning bots... lol |
Sahara Uhuru
4
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:08:00 -
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That's so cool. Every time I'm in the mood to read some tear filled posts I just have to go to C+P and read a ganker's thread. More tears than I need to be happy.
'bears don't whine half as much as you do. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
302
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:26:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:You need to give credit where it is due. *holds up a picture, then gives one thumb* This guy!So remember to send this dude a thank you email, before he sets his CSPA charge higher. Thanks to him, you can now only gank 4 times an hour.
Wrong. CCP isn't as smart as you think they are. |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:58:00 -
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Lol ... suicide gankers are not predators .. they are carrion birds ...
What they requires no skill and does not count as PVP. Its just what kids do when there is no punishment for being a dickhead.
You still can suicide gank ... you just cant go amok and kill everything in sight while police are telling you to stop but not actually stopping you.
Suicide gankers have proven themselfs to be the biggest most whiniest group of EVE fliers and their tears and sweeter then any other kind. Not to mention they flow like rivers ! |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:03:00 -
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Suddenly Boom wrote:I ganked a mackinkaw, I docked up and got into a new ship and when I undocked i was told i can't warp until a 15 minute timer is up? This must be a new feature, is there any way to do a gank in hi-sec more than once every 15 minutes? What happens if you use an orca to jetison the ships and you jump into them while still global flagged to concord, you will be unable to warp again?
What about using an orca and jumping into the destroyer in the belt right next to your target whilst global flagged, will that work? lol
I've got a great idea: how about shooting at people that shoot back? :) |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
302
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:11:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Suddenly Boom wrote:I ganked a mackinkaw, I docked up and got into a new ship and when I undocked i was told i can't warp until a 15 minute timer is up? This must be a new feature, is there any way to do a gank in hi-sec more than once every 15 minutes? What happens if you use an orca to jetison the ships and you jump into them while still global flagged to concord, you will be unable to warp again?
What about using an orca and jumping into the destroyer in the belt right next to your target whilst global flagged, will that work? lol I've got a great idea: how about shooting at people that shoot back? :)
Miners shoot back. First with Hobgoblin I's, then with tears in local. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
533
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:23:00 -
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Suddenly Boom wrote:Awesome, so the only way to gank more than 4 times an hour is to have multiple ganking characters. You can't board a ship in space while on global criminal countdown, so orca doesn't work.
What about concord, Is it even possible to get concord out of the belt anymore?
Good GOD I'm loving the PANIC here.
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
533
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Posted - 2012.04.15 17:24:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: I believe less carebears is good for EVE. Because less whining carebears mean CCP Devs will cater to them less. Miners tend to be carebears. Bots hurt miners even more than gankers, by injuring their income rate/hr. Notice I didn't say that I was going to start botting myself - I just choose to leave them alone, while exclusively ganking 'actual' players.
Make sense now? Glad I could help.
Just throwing my sig up here. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
303
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:03:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Suddenly Boom wrote:Awesome, so the only way to gank more than 4 times an hour is to have multiple ganking characters. You can't board a ship in space while on global criminal countdown, so orca doesn't work.
What about concord, Is it even possible to get concord out of the belt anymore? Good GOD I'm loving the PANIC here.
Actually the OP is wrong. So where is the panic? |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:11:00 -
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Am I the only one that finds it ironic that, after four + years of playing this game, the only whining I ever read about is from the big, bad high-sec gankers? You guys just don't get it: gank all you like, we'll keep playing our game. As you roll thru toon-after-toon with -10 or so, we'll keep mining (I don't mine personally), and building stuff with "free minerals", and playing OUR game. |
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
303
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:21:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Am I the only one that finds it ironic that, after four + years of playing this game, the only whining I ever read about is from the big, bad high-sec gankers? You guys just don't get it: gank all you like, we'll keep playing our game. As you roll thru toon-after-toon with -10 or so, we'll keep mining (I don't mine personally), and building stuff with "free minerals", and playing OUR game.
I just noticed that Hulks cost over 320M ISK now. Mackinaws are up to 165M.
700 DPS Catalyst that can solo gank a Hulk? 1.5 Million, with 14-15M in recoverable mods.
I'd say things are pretty good. I feel a ganking spree coming on....very soon.
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Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:23:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Am I the only one that finds it ironic that, after four + years of playing this game, the only whining I ever read about is from the big, bad high-sec gankers? You guys just don't get it: gank all you like, we'll keep playing our game. As you roll thru toon-after-toon with -10 or so, we'll keep mining (I don't mine personally), and building stuff with "free minerals", and playing OUR game. I just noticed that Hulks cost over 320M ISK now. Mackinaws are up to 165M. 700 DPS Catalyst that can solo gank a Hulk? 1.5 Million, with 14-15M in recoverable mods. I'd say things are pretty good. I feel a ganking spree coming on....very soon.
You guys continue to make your runs to low sec to pew rats (something else that doesn't shoot back), and I'll keep making money off you. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
303
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:33:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Am I the only one that finds it ironic that, after four + years of playing this game, the only whining I ever read about is from the big, bad high-sec gankers? You guys just don't get it: gank all you like, we'll keep playing our game. As you roll thru toon-after-toon with -10 or so, we'll keep mining (I don't mine personally), and building stuff with "free minerals", and playing OUR game. I just noticed that Hulks cost over 320M ISK now. Mackinaws are up to 165M. 700 DPS Catalyst that can solo gank a Hulk? 1.5 Million, with 14-15M in recoverable mods. I'd say things are pretty good. I feel a ganking spree coming on....very soon. You guys continue to make your runs to low sec to pew rats (something else that doesn't shoot back), and I'll keep making money off you.
Bzzzz. Wrong. Skilled -10 alts don't waste precious game time shooting rats, just butthurt, ignorant miners.
The T2 Salvage pays for all expenses - and insures that miners keep buying the Mackinaws and Hulks we build for them. |
Kale Eledar
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
23
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:08:00 -
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/amendment
Come on now; it's not that new of a concept.
it's a shame Eve doesn't have more activities to do than suicide ganking
oh wait
Pretty sure gankers can still gank. Nothing to see here, folks. The Irukandji is recruiting PVP pilots! APPLY NAO. You won't regret it. See our info at : -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=70811&find=unread |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
72
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Posted - 2012.04.15 22:27:00 -
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This thread is just an example of "someone moved my cheese" at work. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
St1ngerella
Ion Corp. Citex Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.04.15 23:16:00 -
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This thread made me giggle. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
29
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:06:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Helios Black wrote:Suddenly Boom wrote:Awesome, so the only way to gank more than 4 times an hour is to have multiple ganking characters. You can't board a ship in space while on global criminal countdown, so orca doesn't work.
What about concord, Is it even possible to get concord out of the belt anymore? So the "global criminal cooldown" is finally working properly and stopping you from avoiding its repercussions and you're upset? HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's not working. CCP just declared it as an exploit because they can't be bothered to make it work. Same difference.
We are entertained by the Ganker's Tears. Buncha whiners - worse by far than the Carebears. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
176
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:53:00 -
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So much whine, not enough cheese. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
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ISD LoneLynx
Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.04.16 13:34:00 -
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Excessively offensive lexis edited out.
Please don't step beyond the edge. ISD LoneLynx |
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Immortis Vexx
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
4
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:26:00 -
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This is what happens. We have toooooo many gankers out there and now "the law" has applied the hammer. I've said this before but... when you specifically target one group of people or over-using one particular tactic it starts to look less like random ganking and more like ethnic cleansing. In this case we have too many gankers popping a larger volume of highsec residents. When your pirate activity takes on a higher profile the higher authority will step in to clean up the situation. This isn't 100% the fault of, "Carebear Whining" and you pirates have a part to play in it too. You have gone too far and taken too much rope. Now, you have hung yourselves with it.
CCP's moves have been slow in the progression to this point. That in itself is a testament to their resistance to making highsec wowesque. If you continue on this path (and I am sure that you will) we will end up at that point sooner or later.
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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:51:00 -
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Suicide ganking is too easy now.
Couple that with a broken investment vs reward system.
CCP took notice.
It is my belief that previously, CCP sanctioned suicide gankers as a part of the 'sandbox' atmosphere in the game, but never intended to let it become so seriously prevalent. If there is not some semblance of security in highsec, what is the point of having it? Not to say that highsec should ever be 'safe', but having more ship kills in Jita than any other system speaks volumes to why changes may be implemented.
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Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.04.17 01:41:00 -
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Five Thirty wrote:Suicide ganking is too easy now.
Couple that with a broken investment vs reward system.
CCP took notice.
It is my belief that previously, CCP sanctioned suicide gankers as a part of the 'sandbox' atmosphere in the game, but never intended to let it become so seriously prevalent. If there is not some semblance of security in highsec, what is the point of having it? Not to say that highsec should ever be 'safe', but having more ship kills in Jita than any other system speaks volumes to why changes may be implemented.
Quick question: What do suicide gankers get out of the gank?
If your answer is "profit" you're wrong 70% of the time. When I launch a suicide attack, i lose my ship, my modules, and likely get very little in return--ships with stiff tanks generally require multiple attackers to take down prior to concord intervention, so if you happen to get a good module drop you have to split the isk multiple ways...and even then still don't break even (unless you're using officer modules or something in your tank). Ships without stiff tanks that can be solo'd generally have crap for fits that don't even pay for the guns.
This is consequence-based PvP at its most simplistic: you fly a valuable ship without proper defenses, you should plan on losing it. The victim gets insurance, the attacker does not. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:36:00 -
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What you mean the suicide gankers that plague trade hubs? You get plenty of profit.
The suicide gankers that only play to make others suffer? Well, your kind should get a lot more than an exploded ship. |
Eri Em
5
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:32:00 -
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/popcorn while mining |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1405
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:37:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Used to be if you even undocked in a new ship they blasted you. Gankers got a free ride for a few years.
I was wondering this. Someone I was playing with got the Concord sans loob for trying to "duel" me (dumb WOWbear) and he got into a new ship in a few minutes and undocked with GCC still going and Concord went for sloppy seconds.
So it's possible to undock now but you can't warp? I know about the warp part, but surprised if it's possible to undock with some "help" out of the ship.
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AureoBroker
Natural Inventions Solyaris Chtonium
34
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Posted - 2012.04.17 18:39:00 -
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Do the mining community a favor and delete the Hulk itself out of existance. |
Eryn Velasquez
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.04.17 19:17:00 -
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Fuujin wrote: This is consequence-based PvP at its most simplistic: you fly a valuable ship without proper defenses, you should plan on losing it. The victim gets insurance, the attacker does not.
What you`re talking about is PVP like "player versus pinata", a pinata is also unable to punch back. Suicide gankers - Silly griefing kiddies, annoying like dog poop under my shoes |
Megos Adriano
Stoic Assembly Lines Trade Federation Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.04.17 20:14:00 -
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Carebears: Mining under fire since 10/2009. Stoic Assembly Lines is seeking more storks for our herd! Pilots of all ages-áand professions welcome to-ábecome part of our family - we have opportunities for all! For more information, send me an EVE-Mail. |
Smodab Ongalot
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
91
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:31:00 -
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I think this affront to gankers is offensive.
I am actually a huge carebear with 20 mining alts.
Ganking Ice miners was simply a form of "Market PVP".
CCP.... WHY U NERF MARKET??!??! |
Arcan Winter
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.04.18 12:09:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:
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What rock did you crawl out from under? Suicide ganking, boomeranging or not - you still lose your ship. The risk of losing it is 100%. Everyone but you knows this.
Since it only took you one sentence to demonstrate the depth of your ignorance - the rest of us can safely ignore anything else you say - until you demonstrate that you actually know something.
hmmm no the risk of losing a gank ship is not 100%, its a fact you will loose it you gank. The risk is a X% means that fall out can differ, you will always have at least 2 possible results (fail/sucess or head/tail). Once only one and only one results exits its not change based anylonge, hence it is not a risk or possibility that something happe. It is a fact.
The ship for a suicide ganking is nothing more than the ammo for a ratter. But ofcause ratters normally say its a risk I consume ammo when I shot a rat. lazer crystal is something different, here you eeally have a risk they take damage
The only risk a ganker take is to fail, but this dosent change the outcome of that CONCORD do. But turns profit to loss
Well, talking about the risks, it exist another risk for the ganker too. It is that someone gank him first.... but that risk is rather low I guess
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