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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Xaven
Blasters are being discussed by CCP afaik.
Really? What little bird told you this? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 02/01/2009 17:19:44
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Man, if you don't you are either blind or forgot to activate the right column on your overview to check...
You must be referring to AB BS, of which I see very, very few.
And on a side note (i.e. what this thread is actually about), I do not think pulse are particularly OP, I think the alternatives, blasters and ACs, simply aren't up to snuff. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: Etho Demerzel Man, if you don't you are either blind or forgot to activate the right column on your overview to check...
Oh yes, those ubiquitous BS's with afterburners in the myriad 1vs1 scenarios we all come across.
Heck, BS ABs aren't even that prevalent on SISI. That says a lot. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.02 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 02/01/2009 18:15:30
Originally by: Etho Demerzel The concept of underpowered or overpowered is relative. Something must be OP or UP in relation to something else.
And when people say what I said, the "something else" they are relating to is a theoretical "balanced point." Are MPs overpowered compared to blaters? Yes. But this is because blasters are underpowered compared to their theoretical "balanced point," not because MPs are overpowered compared to theirs.
Quote: ABs are very useful for battleships, especially in low sec where the need to get out of bubbles does not exist, but even in 0.0, against no AB battleships, you will be hard pressed to inflict the torpedoes maximum potential damage.
ATM I do almost exclusively empire and low sec PvP and I don't remember the last BS I killed that had an AB fitted. BS still generally go MWD or nothing.
Originally by: Etho Demerzel but even in 0.0, against no AB battleships, you will be hard pressed to inflict the torpedoes maximum potential damage.
If you have a TP and at least 1 of your gang mates has a web I bet your actual DPS is at least as close to your potential DPS as any other close ranged BS weapon platform. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.02 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov Saying that a weapon system is overpowered without comparing the ships is kind of dumb.
Put lasers on your megathron if they're so good. Should be pretty easy to do giving that Gallente has the most accomodating grid/cpu.
Lol, what? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.02 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 02/01/2009 20:27:49
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Sorry but that does not make sense at all. MP are overpowered compared to blasters, because they outperform blasters in any reasonable scenario, not because blasters are outside some fictitious balanced point.
No, it does make sense. Smack yourself twice, reread and think.
Originally by: Colonel Xaven Zulupark in his Q&A post. Someone must have cried badly...
Zulu said a lot of things in his Q&A, I don't hold high hopes for much of it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.02 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 02/01/2009 20:31:01
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
I suggest you follow your own advice before asking others to do it. I seem to be the one who will certainly most benefit from it, and even if you do not benefit at all from it, you still have nothing to lose.
When did I say I did not understand anything you said? I understand exactly what you are saying and I am saying it is wrong. You, however, seem lost on my point which I believe is not that difficult of a concept to understand. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.03 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 03/01/2009 04:13:59
Originally by: Etho Demerzel Your argumentation is inconsistent, incoherent and ultimately nonsensical.
No, it isn't.
Quote: There is no such a thing as balance point for each weapon system.
Yes, there is. There is a point where a weapon system functions as it is intended to function and is balanced within the sphere of eve, not just in a 1:1 comparison with blasters or ACs or torps. This is what I am referring to by "balanced point". You keep looking at blasters vs. pulse, AC vs. pulse...more or less disregarding the huge number of other factors that are involved in the balance of a weapon system or any other single thing within EVE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
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