Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Nercon Renim
Gallente The Last True Socialism
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 06:43:00 -
[1]
I have heard the Iteron V is the best hauler in the game ( excluding freighters, including T2 industrials ). I have done calculations and found that the Impel seems to have more cargo capacity, but when I place it EFT it tells me otherwise. I used the equations...
Iteron V: ====== 6000 * ( ( 1.275 ) ^ 5 ) * ( ( 1.20 ) ^ 2 ) * ( ( 1.15 ) ^ 1 ) * 1.25 = 41847.79 From left to right: cargo capacity * 5 tech II cargo expander * 2 cargo optimization II * 1 cargo optimization I * 25% bonus from gallente industrial V
Impel: ===== 4800 * ( ( 1.275 ) ^ 7 ) * ( ( 1.20 ) ^ 2 ) * 1.25 = 47324.39 From left to right: cargo capacity * 7 tech II cargo expander * 2 cargo optimization II * 25% bonus from amarr industrial V
Please tell me if this is right, or if I am missing some key piece of info, or If I did something just plain stupid. EFT tells me the Impel has 39437m3 and the Iteron V 41848m3. Please excuse any misspellings and hopefully this post isn't too cryptic.
|
Ticondrius
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 06:52:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Ticondrius on 03/01/2009 06:54:51 First, you're using T2 rigs...on an industrial.
Second...that's a LOT of cargo expanders. Lots of cargo space alone does not a good indy make. Practical cargo size is 27,500m3, or the about the same size as a jettison can.
Also, how many midslots does it have for ECM? What about some inertial stabs to align for warp faster? How about a cloaking device?
EDIT: And yeah...heh. Obviously I don't know my Amarr ships that well. Impel is a T2 Transport ship, not a T1 Industrial. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROPOSAL: Chaos Incarnate's Face MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |
Iria Ahrens
Amarr 101st Space Marine Force The Leathernecks
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 06:52:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 03/01/2009 06:54:58 Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 03/01/2009 06:52:43 Impel is a Transport not an Industrial. It's much slower, more resilient, and if being used for its intended purpose, an entire outfit of CHE is a fail fit. --
Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
|
Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 06:56:00 -
[4]
I'm gonna follow the trend so far and not read the OP at all.
------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |
Iria Ahrens
Amarr 101st Space Marine Force The Leathernecks
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 06:58:00 -
[5]
I can read just fine, I can't check his math.
--
Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
|
Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr Imperial Academy
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:17:00 -
[6]
Yes, the Itty V carries more then the Impel.
But I'll duel your itty V in my Impel, and you'll see why I use an Impel.
- Nobody gets rich in this business. You simply obtain new levels of relative poverty. |
Mr QUE
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:24:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Irulan S'Dijana Yes, the Itty V carries more then the Impel.
But I'll duel your itty V in my Impel, and you'll see why I use an Impel.
your eble ^-^
Woot |
Gameboy4ever
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:39:00 -
[8]
Well the problem i see is that when you Look at the Impel's starting cargo you did not enter the right value if im not mistaken, the correct value should be instead of your (4800) 4000. Otherwise i do indeed get 39436.99268 meters cubed for the impel. In other matters it would be best to state that you want the best hauler in the game under the premise of how much cargo it can carry only!!! I would also say that people should have at least gotten the idea that he meant that based on cargo capacity ebcause that was the only thing he talked about in his post.... But, why are you figuring all this out when you could be playing DOTA! Seriously Dota is important and everyone needs to conform and play it at least once. So to reiterate in terms of carrying the most, the iteron mark 5 would be the better of the two ships.
|
Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:48:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Iria Ahrens I can read just fine, I know there is diminishing returns, but I don't understand how it works so I can't check his math.
Actually the exact opposite when it comes to Cargohold expanders, they stack on each other without penalty, so a high sec Impel with 7 Tech II Cargohold expanders is actually Win
EFT All Level 5 Shows that (with Tech II Expanders and Tech I optimisers):
The Itty V holds 38,433 m3 (which can hold 12 GSC for a total of 49,233m3, but adding the smaller cans can indeed hold more than 50,000m3)
The Impel can hold 36,219m3 (which can also hold 12 GSC for a total of 47,019m3)
However and impel isn't designed for space (specifically) it's designed to travel low/null-sec with valuble goods and escape gate-camps so having lots of low slots allow it to have a very good armour tank and allows you to fit Warp stabbers ._.. ._ .._ __. .... .. _. __. __ ._ _.
Desu Sigs |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:53:00 -
[10]
impel starts with 4000 cargo... not 4800. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
|
Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 07:56:00 -
[11]
While the Itty5 has a bit more cargo room, let us not forget that the Impel can fit an MWD. --
|
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 08:17:00 -
[12]
itty 5 is much more gawk able
|
Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 08:27:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton itty 5 is much more gawk able
I haven't really seen much gawking at Itty 5. More of snickering as they fly through gates.
------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |
RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 08:39:00 -
[14]
cargo lists will help
I'll update the wiki when I can -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
|
Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 10:56:00 -
[15]
Edited by: Karentaki on 03/01/2009 10:56:35 I fought an impel in my iteron 3 and blew it up. Therefore, and itty 5 is automatically far superior.
Also, itty 5 has a bigger cargo, so I'm guessing for most practical purposes it's better.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
|
Grarr Dexx
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 11:12:00 -
[16]
'dawww someone ganked my ship :((((('
vs
'lol what a noob trying to attack dst's'
----- Nexus stamps of approvalÖ count: 1
|
Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:13:00 -
[17]
Originally by: RaTTuS cargo lists will help
I'll update the wiki when I can
nice spreadsheet though it's got a small error, prorator has 4 slots not 2 slots
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |
Rramar Claime
Amarr Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:23:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Gameboy4ever Edited by: Gameboy4ever on 03/01/2009 07:54:32 Well the problem i see is that when you Look at the Impel's starting cargo you did not enter the right value if im not mistaken, the correct value should be instead of your (4800) 4000. Otherwise i do indeed get 39436.99268 meters cubed for the impel. In other matters it would be best to state that you want the best hauler in the game under the premise of how much cargo it can carry only!!! I would also say that people should have at least gotten the idea that he meant that based on cargo capacity ebcause that was the only thing he talked about in his post.... But, why are you figuring all this out when you could be playing DOTA! Seriously Dota is important and everyone needs to conform and play it at least once. So to reiterate in terms of carrying the most, the iteron mark 5 would be the better of the two ships. but, i also found that the Occator had 48329.64789 meters cubed
Enter ftw! ------- "I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:29:00 -
[19]
On a related topic, the Archon and the Nyx... which is better? ---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual |
RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:32:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Typhado3
Originally by: RaTTuS cargo lists will help
I'll update the wiki when I can
nice spreadsheet though it's got a small error, prorator has 4 slots not 2 slots
it does ? ba! I;ll update as soon as I can -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
|
|
Alexandria Li
Better Than You
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:40:00 -
[21]
The I5 can haul more, yes. But this ignores the fact that you're putting almost 100m worth of rigs and fittings on a ship that can be bloody near singly-volleyed by most any competent pilot in most any combat ship in the game.
The impel, while hauling slightly less - is vastly beefier, and can fit a MWD.
Long story short - if you need that much space to haul things around in, you're probably already a suicide gank target. Make yourself a harder target, and protect your investment a bit more.
|
Rob Z0mbie
|
Posted - 2009.01.03 12:41:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Nercon Renim EFT
... sorry wut?
|
JaseNZ
|
Posted - 2009.01.04 09:12:00 -
[23]
Edited by: JaseNZ on 04/01/2009 09:13:24
Originally by: Rob Z0mbie
Originally by: Nercon Renim EFT
... sorry wut?
EVE Fitting Tool
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |