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loco coco
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:57:00 -
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Hey everyone, as we all know, the learning curve in EVE Online is quite steep. This picture sums it up quite nicely : http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c_z.jpg?zz=1
I could bet that everyone who still uses their first character as their main character has a LOT of wasted skillpoints. I'd like to purpose that CCP Implement a ONE TIME ONLY total skillpoint reallocation AFTER 5 million or maybe 10 million total skillpoints. This could possibly be ever one time per account should it become a problem. Or even time based, such as having to hold the character on your account for a year or more before AND have the skillpoint requirement before reallocation becomes available.
Let me know what you guys think. Suggestions on refining this are greatly welcome. |
Tess Stickle
Los Terribles Intrepid Crossing
1
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:00:00 -
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I support this. Wouldn't mind fixing some of my skills that are not helping in any way.
Vote: Yes Please! |
DonHel
Aliastra Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:01:00 -
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I totally need this, I got skills learned to 4 and 5 that I have no clue what thier use is.. |
BlackenStorm
Los Terribles Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:01:00 -
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Love it ...CCP make it happen. I am sure there is a way to make it happen and work out the kinks. |
T' Elk
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
381
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:02:00 -
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I approve.
~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ // Inferno is coming // The Beard is Back, Ladies and Gents! |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
354
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:02:00 -
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Supported. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:03:00 -
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Ridiculous. Skill acquisition is a strategic part of "playing" EVE. It's where the player visualizes the game, themselves in the game, and proceeds to make decisions targeted toward getting a handle ON the game. What you suggest is like a golfer choosing the nine iron for a shot requiring a seven. He fails. He requests a do-over 'cause he "wasted his shot."
If you "wasted" your time and skilled up areas useless to you, guess what? You made a bad strategic decision and your "game" will reflect that. If you don't want a bunch of "wasted" skills, DON'T STUDY THEM. I've talked to a lot of hotshots who "had it all figured out" what was important and what was "a joke". They charged ahead and did the "cool" thing, thinking they were God's gift to gaming. Now, they've had to live their dream, they aren't feeling so smart after all.
Why didn't you entitle this post, "CCP, Don't Make Me Pay For My Stupid Mistakes"?
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
ElQuirko
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
558
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:04:00 -
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God no
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
loco coco
11
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:05:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Ridiculous. Skill acquisition is a strategic part of "playing" EVE. It's where the player visualizes the game, themselves in the game, and proceeds to make decisions targeted toward getting a handle ON the game. What you suggest is like a golfer choosing the nine iron for a shot requiring a seven. He fails. He requests a do-over 'cause he "wasted his shot."
If you "wasted" your time and skilled up areas useless to you, guess what? You made a bad strategic decision and your "game" will reflect that. If you don't want a bunch of "wasted" skills, DON'T STUDY THEM. I've talked to a lot of hotshots who "had it all figured out" what was important and what was "a joke". They charged ahead and did the "cool" thing, thinking they were God's gift to gaming. Now, they've had to live their dream, they aren't feeling so smart after all.
Why didn't you entitle this post, "CCP, Don't Make Me Pay For My Stupid Mistakes"?
Kinda blew past the learning curve part of my post, didn't ya? |
BlackenStorm
Los Terribles Intrepid Crossing
1
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:06:00 -
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I am sure there are plenty of noobs who do not know they ..missed the so called stratigic training. This is a 1 time reallocation of skill points. Not a do over and over . Please read the original post again. |
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
478
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:09:00 -
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Never.
It's like real life, what you have done is always present in you, part of what makes you.
Tricky wrote:You go live with yourself I'll go live with myself But it is me who has to live With myself.
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Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:12:00 -
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No. |
Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
175
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:13:00 -
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Considering the amount of skills in the game + not having an ingame version of eft to see what effects what. And there being tons of poorly written or "eve jargon based skills."
EX. Thermodynamics :Advanced understanding of the laws of thermodynamics. Allows you to deliberately overheat a ship's modules in order to push them beyond their intended limit. Also gives you the ability to frown in annoyance whenever you hear someone mention a perpetual motion unit. Reduces heat damage by 5% per level. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Heat_and_thermodynamics
Although a useful skill in the end. I had no Fing clue wtf this did when I first started playing. I thought it was necessary for laser turrets lol. So I can see how a "ONE TIME ONLY" "LIMITED" skill point reimbursement would be handy. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Xyla Vulchanus
Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.
32
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:13:00 -
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loco coco wrote:Hey everyone, as we all know, the learning curve in EVE Online is quite steep. This picture sums it up quite nicely : http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c_z.jpg?zz=1I could bet that everyone who still uses their first character as their main character has a LOT of wasted skillpoints. I'd like to purpose that CCP Implement a ONE TIME ONLY total skillpoint reallocation AFTER 5 million or maybe 10 million total skillpoints. This could possibly be ever one time per account should it become a problem. Or even time based, such as having to hold the character on your account for a year or more before AND have the skillpoint requirement before reallocation becomes available. Let me know what you guys think. Suggestions on refining this are greatly welcome.
No, no, no - this is the path to hell.
I object to your post, and not just because you can't spell "propose" |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
994
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:13:00 -
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I say nay!!!!! |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:14:00 -
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loco coco wrote:Pok Nibin wrote:Ridiculous. Skill acquisition is a strategic part of "playing" EVE. It's where the player visualizes the game, themselves in the game, and proceeds to make decisions targeted toward getting a handle ON the game. What you suggest is like a golfer choosing the nine iron for a shot requiring a seven. He fails. He requests a do-over 'cause he "wasted his shot."
If you "wasted" your time and skilled up areas useless to you, guess what? You made a bad strategic decision and your "game" will reflect that. If you don't want a bunch of "wasted" skills, DON'T STUDY THEM. I've talked to a lot of hotshots who "had it all figured out" what was important and what was "a joke". They charged ahead and did the "cool" thing, thinking they were God's gift to gaming. Now, they've had to live their dream, they aren't feeling so smart after all.
Why didn't you entitle this post, "CCP, Don't Make Me Pay For My Stupid Mistakes"?
Kinda blew past the learning curve part of my post, didn't ya? Kinda dealt with the learning curve like everybody else did. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
207
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:16:00 -
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Why ?
You make choices in the order in which you train your skills. And yes your right over time some skills become useless because your game play has changed. Does that mean you should be able to reallocate what you already learned. NO.
Keep in mind for someone like me I would be able to reallocate 100 mil SP's all at once. You do not want to open up that box as it serves no purpose.
We all made choices in this game. And learning to live with it is part of the game.
I agree it would be nice but I also believe it should NEVER be allowed. |
baltec1
1095
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:19:00 -
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6 years ago I trained up mining skills. Only now does that make sense but if I re-did those skills then I could not put them to use now. Bad idea is still bad |
Rykuss
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:22:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I say nay!!!!!
I say Ni!
Can I have your vindicator? |
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:22:00 -
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This-á is-á such-á a -ánew-á and-á refreshing -áidea.
If there only were a section for new suggestions and a way to search for old ones... |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
706
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:23:00 -
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No |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1664
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:30:00 -
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If CCP nerfs R&D Agents and makes Data Cores available only through Factional Warfare Loyality Points Stores, then I want all skillpoints in the 'Research Project Management' skill to be reimbursed as well as the ISK amount for the skillbook. The rest of the science skills are still needed for invention and production. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6103
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:32:00 -
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Suggestion: post features and ideas in the features and ideas forum. Also, suggestion: search first.
Oh, and god no. Horrible idea that doesn't solve any kind of problem but breaks a whole lot of things, even if it's just a one-time deal. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Memrox
Memrox Corp
35
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:33:00 -
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No way.
Would ruin the Character Market. Ala, oooh I can remap skillpoints soon so il go and grab a ton of ****** toons and re-do them.......... |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
154
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:36:00 -
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No.
First off, it would become an Aurum service just to encourage CCP to add more of them and secondly, skill planning is something you need to keep a long term goal in mind. If you think you are going to waste skillpoints, you should have reassessed your training plan to begin with. |
Teibor
Quay Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:40:00 -
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no |
Vince Snetterton
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:47:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:If CCP nerfs R&D Agents and makes Data Cores available only through Factional Warfare Loyality Points Stores, then I want all skillpoints in the 'Research Project Management' skill to be reimbursed as well as the ISK amount for the skillbook. The rest of the science skills are still needed for invention and production.
Seconded. |
Ismol Mond
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:48:00 -
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What a terrible idea for even worse reasons. The next thing you will be suggesting is that CCP remove all racial variation. (oops they already did that) Btw that old steep learning curve ( which is what attracted me to this game in the first place) is long gone. I did all the newbie stuff recently and was flooded with information (much of it very good) and tons of free skillbooks etc. That coupled with the poorly thought out 20 attribute points in each attribute at character creation has turned that once cool learning curve into a small bump. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
472
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Posted - 2012.04.15 20:28:00 -
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Decent trolling attempt though. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Riggs Droput
Born-2-Kill
30
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Posted - 2012.04.15 20:35:00 -
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I would only possibly say sure to this if during the re-allocation you got 25% of the SP back that you wanted re-allocate. 10mil SP re-allocated gives you 2.5 back. There should be consequences for all actions if you messed up in your training then you should have to live with it. I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees |
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