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ZokFotPik
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Posted - 2009.01.07 12:51:00 -
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Hi there,
I've achored a Tower in a 0.7 system with mobile labs. I would like to make some of the ME and PE slots available for public use. What is the best way of allowing that to happen? And how would I set it up
Thanks ZFP
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Tatsujin Koufu
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Posted - 2009.01.07 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: ZokFotPik Hi there,
I've achored a Tower in a 0.7 system with mobile labs. I would like to make some of the ME and PE slots available for public use. What is the best way of allowing that to happen? And how would I set it up
Thanks ZFP
Im afraid your going to have to persuade people to join an alliance and go from there, at least thats how I understand it
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2009.01.07 13:35:00 -
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Or join your corp into one of the number of research alliance already setup for this purpose. |
Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.07 14:16:00 -
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I rent out mine through the ZZZ alliance. |
ArsenalOfCharm
Fifth Exiled Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:13:00 -
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or just setup your own BPO research store in sell orders and sell through that take custom orders etc
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Constance Harme
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:29:00 -
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I suggest you join a research alliance like New Eden Research, that will provide you with an ample amount of customers. |
Jeanette Plato
Caldari Amargosa Observatory Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.07 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: ZokFotPik Hi there,
I've achored a Tower in a 0.7 system with mobile labs. I would like to make some of the ME and PE slots available for public use. What is the best way of allowing that to happen? And how would I set it up
Thanks ZFP
You join ZZZ, and have others join the ZZZ alliance. If they don't want to join ZZZ they can simply make an Alt and have the Alt join. |
Kayne Darklight
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:10:00 -
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This infuriates me, why should we join an alliance in order to conduct research in other people`s labs? Why must all research jobs be started within Corp hangars? Why, when a pos lab says it`s "publicly available", isn`t it publicly available? What is the point in setting a startup/hourly usage fee on a pos lab, when the money comes from Corp wallet then goes straight back into Corp wallet?
The number of times my corp members have asked me if they can access the pos labs for researching their personal BPOs, and I have to say "sorry, CCP don`t allow corp members to access their own damn labs from their personal hangars, even though all the options are there in the interface"
I think I posted this question in 'Features and Ideas' between twelve and eighteen months ago, and have seen countless patches, updates, and expansions since then.
In short, to the OP - you can`t. The only labs that are truly 'public' are the NPC ones. All pos labs can only be accessed through a Corporate hangar, which means multiple people have full access to your BPO. Senior (and trusted) Corp members could securely do it for you, but they only have limited skill slots, which will likely be already in use. Which brings us back to the 'why can`t people do it themselves question'.
Rant over... |
Breaker77
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Posted - 2009.01.11 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kayne Darklight Which brings us back to the 'why can`t people do it themselves question'.
They can! They put there BPO into the corp hangar and do the research on it. Someone with access to the hangers would have to deliver the BPO back to the corp member when it's finished.
Of course this comes back to the trust issue as well. You should never trust anyone, but at the same time if you can't trust your CEO, or anyone else with permission to take from the hangar, you should really reconsider being in that corp.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 11/01/2009 12:27:10
Originally by: Kayne Darklight This infuriates me, why should we join an alliance in order to conduct research in other people`s labs...
It's not quite as bad as that. There are ways and means of sharing if you're prepared to let people trust each other a little. As for the fees, you may have noticed that they're always paid into the master wallet, so if you give members access to a dedicated empty wallet, they can just keep it topped up as needed. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
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Kayne Darklight
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 They can! They put there BPO into the corp hangar and do the research on it.
My point exactly. Why must it be in the Corp hangar?
If I place a BPO in my personal hangar, I can then start setting a job, in the current solar system, and using a Corp pos lab. The labs are visible in the interface, selection of installation is accepted, input/output set as 'my hangar' is fine...then comes the final 'ok', and I`m told that the two locations are incompatible.
The lab assembly lines themselves can be 'publicly available' or restricted to Corp or Alliance members, so something, somewhere is broken.
That is a very informative guide, Kazuo, but as you freely admit, it requires a truckload of trust and roles in order to work. While I have no problem with members using the labs, no way in hell am I giving the required access to a new member, especially as there is no way to determine who delivers the jobs. So if a BPO 'disappears', who gets the blame?
What I want to be able to do is say "there are the labs, anyone with scientific networking can use them for ME/PE research from their own hangars, and there is a fee to cover the fuel costs, copying can be worked out". No further intervention from anyone involved, simply online the lab and forget about it. |
Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:12:00 -
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Quote: My point exactly. Why must it be in the Corp hangar?
Because a POS is a CORP asset it was never meant for individual use. --
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:43:00 -
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I think that's another part of the risk / reward thing.
If you give the role to someone you don't trust, there's a risk involved. Or if you put the BPO into a corp hangar of a corp you don't trust. Should stay as is, imho.
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Victor Maximus
Aeon Of Strife R.U.R.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kayne Darklight
My point exactly. Why must it be in the Corp hangar?
If I place a BPO in my personal hangar, I can then start setting a job, in the current solar system, and using a Corp pos lab. The labs are visible in the interface, selection of installation is accepted, input/output set as 'my hangar' is fine...then comes the final 'ok', and I`m told that the two locations are incompatible.
If it helps, think about what your trying to do. Your blueprint is in your personal hanger, but the actual research takes place elsewhere, at your lab. The blueprint needs to be present at the lab so when its off in your personal hanger its out of range. There is nothing inplace to magicly move the print out to the lab and then back to your hanger.
Besides from putting the blueprint in the corp hanger at your pos your lab also has storage so you can stick them directly into it.
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