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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:41:00 -
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CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom ****ing mother****licking bull****!
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a **** sucking nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:42:00 -
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WTS Ship Scanner II's in bulk. |
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:42:00 -
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I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool. |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:43:00 -
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Missed these quality threads. Where you on holiday? |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Missed these quality threads. Where you on holiday?
no, ive been recruitin peeps for my corp and pvping in curse. |
Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:46:00 -
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T3 drake with max shield capacity and recharge!!! |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei T3 drake with max shield capacity and recharge!!!
yet another fc nightmare |
Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:47:00 -
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I just want to make a totally op gunboat with the dps of a bs and the agility of a cruiser is all. |
MHayes
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:48:00 -
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Change is good.
Unlike you. |
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: MHayes Change is good.
Unlike you.
change in the right direction is good, like letting carriers and dreads into hi sec. This is public relations marketing bullcrap. |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom ****ing mother****licking bull****!
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a **** sucking nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Why not try...you know...to adapt? Or is it beyond your capability?
I am looking forward for T3. Why? Because I like new toys!
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Why not try...you know...to adapt? Or is it beyond your capability?
I am looking forward for T3. Why? Because I like new toys!
adaptation is irrelevant..........t3 ships are gonna unbalance the game. |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:51:00 -
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Good grief....From what I gather, T3 Ships will NOT be based on t1 hulls. EFT will be the same for original ships, would be a lot of work to get all combinations for the T3, but It can be done. Putting T3 ship parts together is a lot like fitting modules to your ship, it changes stats, so it wont be TOO hard.
Stop jumping the gun on this crap and wait for it to hit the Test Server, THEN you can go *****ing about it. |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise Good grief....From what I gather, T3 Ships will NOT be based on t1 hulls. EFT will be the same for original ships, would be a lot of work to get all combinations for the T3, but It can be done. Putting T3 ship parts together is a lot like fitting modules to your ship, it changes stats, so it wont be TOO hard.
Stop jumping the gun on this crap and wait for it to hit the Test Server, THEN you can go *****ing about it.
im lookin at t3 hulls now, everythin is a phoenix!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazykinux/sets/72157608767597503/detail/ |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Why not try...you know...to adapt? Or is it beyond your capability?
I am looking forward for T3. Why? Because I like new toys!
adaptation is irrelevant..........t3 ships are gonna unbalance the game.
Highly doubt it. CCP is quite good at balancing. Besides, how do you know? We dont know jack about T3! Just that you can compose your own ship! I will rather wait and see how it works first before I start spewing gall towards CCP, claiming failure, doomsday and unbalancing....
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Why not try...you know...to adapt? Or is it beyond your capability?
I am looking forward for T3. Why? Because I like new toys!
adaptation is irrelevant..........t3 ships are gonna unbalance the game.
Highly doubt it. CCP is quite good at balancing. Besides, how do you know? We dont know jack about T3! Just that you can compose your own ship! I will rather wait and see how it works first before I start spewing gall towards CCP, claiming failure, doomsday and unbalancing....
GOOD AT BALANCING?!!!! HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT! CALDARI ARE UBER WOOSES, GALLENTE ARE STRONGEST! |
Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:57:00 -
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WTB merc services to make the OP cry and emo rage quit eve, so I never have to see another one of his post. |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox WTB merc services to make the OP cry and emo rage quit eve, so I never have to see another one of his post.
i dont have any emo rage
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:03:00 -
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All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
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clone 1
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Treelox WTB merc services to make the OP cry and emo rage quit eve, so I never have to see another one of his post.
i dont have any emo rage
Yes you do Nathan -------------------------------------------------- The Angels Have the Phone Box |
clone 1
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
Aye.
The Ayes have it.
Motion passed.
-------------------------------------------------- The Angels Have the Phone Box |
Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 10/01/2009 19:05:33
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Treelox WTB merc services to make the OP cry and emo rage quit eve, so I never have to see another one of his post.
i dont have any emo rage
Your terrible posting skills disagree.
EDIT:
Originally by: Malcanis All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
Supported
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: clone 1
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Treelox WTB merc services to make the OP cry and emo rage quit eve, so I never have to see another one of his post.
i dont have any emo rage
Yes you do Nathan
you know my name from.....
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:09:00 -
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Since the different components will have different base stats, and no doubt modifying stats for the other components in use, I imagine EFT will work just fine with it.
You'll have something like a 'Create T3 ship' selection, in which you can mix and match the five components till you find the slot layout, PG/CPU output, shield/armor/structure capacity, capacitor capacity/recharge and mass/speed/agily modifier you want.
It cannot be made so complicated that players unwilling to or unfamiliar with using EFT wouldn't be able to figure out ship setups without the tool, in game.
Beyond that - it will be an FC issue? How so? Any FC worth his salt knows the potential fittings for any ship already in game, and is able to identify based purely on what kind of tank he can see it running (or not running, as the case may be), and what weapons are fitted to it, what kind of other-slot configuration it may or may not be running.
So, in the same way, assuming one of the components dictates armor HP or shield HP, it should be possible to use that information to determine the maximum tank capacity. Then you can look at the module determining the PG/CPU output, and determine what 'class' the ship fits into. Then judging by the weapons visible on it you can determine its DPS profile, in conjunction with the module determining its lowslot configuration and/or speed.
I doubt you'd need to identify more than 3 components on one ship to figure out what it's designed for; the rest of the information you gather the usual way - check the agility, check the speed, check the guns, check the tank type.
I'm calling a failtroll here. If you're not a troll, then I honestly feel sorry for you and your recruits... |
Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:10:00 -
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1) Teach how to PVP 2) Teach how to PVP in fleets 3) Teach how to Fit a Ship 4) ??? 5) PROFIT
FC's Nightmare is that point of the battle where everybody go nuts on the lag and start shooting blues
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck 1) Teach how to PVP 2) Teach how to PVP in fleets 3) Teach how to Fit a Ship 4) ??? 5) PROFIT
FC's Nightmare is that point of the battle where everybody go nuts on the lag and start shooting blues
yeah now youll have lag AND unpredictability, |
Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Concorduck 1) Teach how to PVP 2) Teach how to PVP in fleets 3) Teach how to Fit a Ship 4) ??? 5) PROFIT
FC's Nightmare is that point of the battle where everybody go nuts on the lag and start shooting blues
yeah now youll have lag AND unpredictability,
no, only lag |
Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:15:00 -
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It's a goddamn FOOM conspiracy isn't it |
Sebea
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom ****ing mother****licking bull****!
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a **** sucking nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
yea, heaven forbid they add some uncertainty to the game, so all you docking game ***gots might slip up and engage the wrong group of ships. |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 10/01/2009 19:24:25
Eh, don't worry, they'll be expensive enough so you'll seldom ever see them outside PVE duties anyway It's like throwing a tantrum over faction ships, officer modules or T2 rigs
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Eh, don't worry, they'll be expensive enough so you'll seldom ever see them outside PVE duties anyway
hulk came out, 500 mill, down to 100.
it will become cheap when bpos get accesible........eek |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy it will become cheap when bpos get accesible........eek
Just like T2 rig BPOs... ...oh, wait
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: masternerdguy it will become cheap when bpos get accesible........eek
Just like T2 rig BPOs... ...oh, wait
t2 rigs dont count, they are a fail because of the cost of production, noone wants to make em. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:29:00 -
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Ok, like officer module BPOs or faction ship BPOs then... ...oh, wait
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brakespear
Minmatar Heaven Up Here
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: masternerdguy it will become cheap when bpos get accesible........eek
Just like T2 rig BPOs... ...oh, wait
t2 rigs dont count, they are a fail because of the cost of production, noone wants to make em.
Hmmmmmm.....so what are T3 components made out of then? |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Ok, like officer module BPOs or faction ship BPOs then... ...oh, wait
faction ships dont cost much. I got my hookbill for 20 mill, thats about the upper price of a harpy. Also, officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: masternerdguy officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
it was less than 30 hours after orca was releaed the first one wass made,. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:34:00 -
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You do KNOW that there is no such thing as an "officer mod BPO", do you ? I ask because I start thinking you ARE that naive afterall. |
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:35:00 -
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Unlike teh OP i think T3 is an excelletn idea, rather than going down a deeper route of known ships filling even more singular roles, like Black Ops. CCP took the smart route and create a tier of ships that still fill a singular role but in a less rigid way(...what?). its complexity the OP is scared, having to think through more than 2 simple ideas of each ship using, either EWAR or gank. And what tank they are set up for (if they are). You call primaries by thinking, rather than jsut recognising the name you now have to recognise the outline and shape along with what they are dojng position etc. Just more complexity and uncertainty. makes the game interesting and not so boring
Oh and cleverly fitting a ship is jsut what this offers more of, jsut even more unique and possible less cookie cutter. |
masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lork Niffle Unlike teh OP i think T3 is an excelletn idea, rather than going down a deeper route of known ships filling even more singular roles, like Black Ops. CCP took the smart route and create a tier of ships that still fill a singular role but in a less rigid way(...what?). its complexity the OP is scared, having to think through more than 2 simple ideas of each ship using, either EWAR or gank. And what tank they are set up for (if they are). You call primaries by thinking, rather than jsut recognising the name you now have to recognise the outline and shape along with what they are dojng position etc. Just more complexity and uncertainty. makes the game interesting and not so boring
Oh and cleverly fitting a ship is jsut what this offers more of, jsut even more unique and possible less cookie cutter.
no, have you seen ccp's design for t3? It involves tiers of parts that scale linearly, so not super adaptable. I dislike it because its too easy, its much harder to take a ship, say, a raven, and fit it for tackling.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:50:00 -
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you fit a raven for tackeling? wtf? heaviest tackler Ive seen was probably the claymore before the hictors came about.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox you fit a raven for tackeling? wtf? heaviest tackler Ive seen was probably the claymore before the hictors came about.
it was an example, i dont actually do it. The point is that eve has set ship designs, some more flexible than others, and t3 destroys the formula.
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:53:00 -
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Too easy?? CCP have told us way too little to base anything off it. All we know is that it is Modular in some way and customizable in some way and configurable in some way etc etc. CCP do it right it will provide many ways to perform the same task with equal efficiency with drawbacks and pro etc
etc etc... We NEED to know more to EVEN begin to whine, but dont let me stop you ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me. |
Lork Niffle
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:54:00 -
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Well i would feel just using the same formula FOR absolutely everything will jsut get boring. Either adapt or die, cant adapt, die, dont want to die just adapt. In the case of T3 you can adapt quite literally ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me. |
DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2009.01.10 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy faction ships dont cost much. I got my hookbill for 20 mill, thats about the upper price of a harpy. Also, officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
lol.
T3 ships might get me to log in again Dx Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lork Niffle Well i would feel just using the same formula FOR absolutely everything will jsut get boring. Either adapt or die, cant adapt, die, dont want to die just adapt. In the case of T3 you can adapt quite literally
it breaks the eve model
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:11:00 -
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I'll worry when we get to something above cruiser size.... Besides these things will be primary for a bit anyway....best way to kill your enemies wallet.
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Benco97
Gallente Black Shadow Rangers
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:18:00 -
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This is a joke thread, right?
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
it breaks the eve model
Not on teh old ships, T3 will not be replacing the old ships, esp at the start with their prices. T3 will be filling single roles, (as by the vid) very well. Possible filling an entire gap in a particualr fleet or to provdie an overwheleming improvement in that SINGLE area to make the other fleet think twice at the new T3 ship. just creates a new model to work by. Seriously jsut adapt, will be much quicker ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me. |
Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:22:00 -
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Ever seen an assault drake?
They are very mean and quite nasty and often go to long ignorged because most FC's thing oh its shield tanked and does no damage and save it for last when in fact its munching everything its size or below and doing some heavy tackeling.
FCs who expect a ship to always behave a certain way are always destined for nasty surpsises when they happen.
I honestly think Tech 3 if they become common will mold far better FC's as they are willing to take something beyond in box thinking and become prepared for unseen varaibles that could happen which often happens in a tonn of battles.
Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today |
permion
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:29:00 -
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Don't you think T3 is what production should have been in the first place? |
MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:32:00 -
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/me likes the Tech III modular look Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Thanks for the pic link masternerdguyfail
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:33:00 -
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Quote: officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
dude OMG O_O you seriously didnt just say that |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: clone 1
Originally by: masternerdguy i dont have any emo rage
Yes you do Nathan
you know my name from.....
DOH!
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy Secondly This is gonna make FCing a **** sucking nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
Exactly! It's not gonna be:
FC: "primary: xxx, secondary: yyy, primary: xxx, secondary: yyy, primary: yyy, secondary zzz"
It's more gonna be like:
FC: OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!! Run, you fools.
Not knowing whta your enemy is capable of is a good thing. I will die a lot to ships I should have better not engaged, but it will be fun.
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mcnuggetlol
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:39:00 -
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I like how we know nothing about T3 ships and people are still complaining, it's like they actively scour the game to look for things to ***** about.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom ****ing mother****licking bull****!
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a **** sucking nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Is it me or is the OP just a little kiddie that hides behind the keyboard? Then again i know a few adults that do the same and then become sissy girls when found face to face at a cyber cafe!
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Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: mcnuggetlol I like how we know nothing about T3 ships and people are still complaining, it's like they actively scour the game to look for things to ***** about.
But we do know something. Who ever was at fanfest does know something. And an alliance member just happened to go to fanfest and broke it down for us in vent. Basically If its good in tank. its **** in dps.
Also. Op is a troll.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Gate Control Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Shard
Originally by: mcnuggetlol I like how we know nothing about T3 ships and people are still complaining, it's like they actively scour the game to look for things to ***** about.
But we do know something. Who ever was at fanfest does know something. And an alliance member just happened to go to fanfest and broke it down for us in vent. Basically If its good in tank. its **** in dps.
Also. Op is a troll.
ive explained im not a troll |
Kithaca
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:06:00 -
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*snickers*
Sounds like you're going to have to become a little more clever, smarter, adaptable than the other FC. EVE and skillsets are not cookie-cutter. Sure there's common builds for ranged snipers, ewar ships, neut-domi's etc.
Who knows, maybe we'll have the ability now with T3 to cut and turn faster on the left than we can on the right, which makes some interesting pilot tactical flying now instead of point and click.
Perhaps we'll have a myriad of ships and capabilities to explore, demolish, blow up and of course salvage. Who cares what a ship 'looks' like. Afterall, the domi/typhoon is a big boat capable of almost 1100dps in the hands of a highly skilled pilot. They also have the ability to be one of the best tanking ships if set for that role. I can't tell which is which by LOOKING at it until I start shooting it.
People are already flying ewar drakes because people know they have a hard tank at times to break, so they choose that ability to utilize other modules.
The end of CCP isn't near. The end of your FC'ing would appear to be however. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy ive explained im not a troll
No. You've tried to distract from the fact that you're a troll. There's a difference. |
Chris Liath
Gallente The Vorlon Empire Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:00:00 -
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Don't worry, they'll probably be far too expensive to pvp in, anyways... Yet another carebear ship
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. |
Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lt Shard on 11/01/2009 00:12:38
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Lt Shard
Originally by: mcnuggetlol I like how we know nothing about T3 ships and people are still complaining, it's like they actively scour the game to look for things to ***** about.
But we do know something. Who ever was at fanfest does know something. And an alliance member just happened to go to fanfest and broke it down for us in vent. Basically If its good in tank. its **** in dps.
Also. Op is a troll.
ive explained im not a troll
Your a troll.
Thread over.
Edit: haha op got snip'd |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 11/01/2009 00:45:50 Lets see what happens, a bit of uncertainty and revolution at times is a good thing. However, certain combos (if allowed) would be a whole lot better than others; ECM bonused droneboats would be kinda over the top.
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Trind2222
Amarr The Red Ring
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:47:00 -
[67]
my dream t3 ship
3 high sloth 8 mid 7 low
300 m3 drone bay 125 Mbit/sec
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.
10% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer drain amount per level
amarr bs stats rest of the way. ____________ Wrangler *comes back out wearing his wizard hat and robe* Wrangler: Hail and well met from Blizzard, how might I assist you?
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:47:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 11/01/2009 00:48:10 ITT: Obligatory pre-patch "OMG THE PATCH WILL RUIN EVE" opinion of the OP.
Quote: WTS Ship Scanner II's in bulk.
qft :) ---
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
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PI Staker
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:47:00 -
[69]
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
WoW ===>
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Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Trind2222 my dream t3 ship
3 high sloth 8 mid 7 low
300 m3 drone bay 125 Mbit/sec 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level. 10% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer drain amount per level amarr bs stats rest of the way.
me want! Make it 2/8/8 tho that would rock more! ___
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Cassandra Valieries
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:54:00 -
[71]
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Ey man, you're even drunker than I am Adapt or die or smurf or something
Good trolling though
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Cassandra Valieries
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:55:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Malcanis All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
Seconded or thirded or something
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:15:00 -
[73]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point.
Thank god for that.
I support anything that makes people play the game more rather than being an afk statistic warrior with EFT.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:28:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point.
Thank god for that.
I support anything that makes people play the game more rather than being an afk statistic warrior with EFT.
wait... why wouldn't work?
your too simple minded op.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:34:00 -
[75]
Quote:
eft wont work thats the point.
Gee, I guess we'd better ditch EFT then, since
- Implants clearly won't work since they offer any ship piloted by implanted character to be customisable in any way shape or form. - I obviously can't fit rigs in EFT at the moment because that'd just make ships way too customisable.
If you're too clueless, here's how it would do it without having a clue about the implementation.
- Include a type of ship in EFT called a 'custom' ship if these ships don't have some sort of racial "base" ship. If they do, just include the 4 racial base ships. - Include a new slot category only for those/that ship type, call it "lego bits" and give it 5 slots. - Each slot, much like implant slots, has a limited list of what can be added there. Apply bonuses as necessary.
ZOMBEERGOGGLES! EFT WORKS!
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
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Ivana Drake
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:37:00 -
[76]
can I protest against masternerdguy posts?
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:43:00 -
[77]
I'm bored, so i'll play the on the loser's side for once.
Thinking about it, T3 will just stretch the "limits" that CCP put on the gameplay (every sandbox has it's limits, be it a glass of sand or the ****ing sahara desert, you still have boundaries). Think of a T3 drake-like ship. Do you really want to see a BC tanking a whole Level 5 Mission? Do you want to see Thousand people with the same setup for all the missions, forever and ever?
or, excluding the PVE aspect of the game, would you like to see a ship that can outdamage you, no matter what? seriously, even with precautions, CCP cannot avoid the "limits" setups of T3 that may arise in the future.
They should really foresee what's gonna happen, before making it happen. -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:51:00 -
[78]
Nathan, you're a ****ing dumbass.
Learn to tell the difference between the Ewar mods and gank/tank mods.
" O Noes, I don't know what that ship's exact loadout and role is! EVE IS DEAD!!!!!"
The more customization and complexity the better
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baltec1
R.U.S.T. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:54:00 -
[79]
Edited by: baltec1 on 11/01/2009 01:55:58 I am already putting together plans for my long range gold solo beam laser boat of doom
Also hoping for a bigger bomber
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Narragansett
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:55:00 -
[80]
Me wanty t3 :(
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nemmes
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:59:00 -
[81]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Missed these quality threads. Where you on holiday?
no, ive been recruitin peeps for my corp and pvping in curse.
You'in curse?! Cant wait to meet you.
On topic: i think T3 will be a lifeline for eve's older players and while yet anotherthing to train for, will add longevity and spice, which is always nice.
Oh and yay for non-cookie shaped fits and ships. Its gonna be a hoot to see some of the new fittings and configurations. "Take me up in the arms of fate, with the strength of conviction and the hope of dreams" |
Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:59:00 -
[82]
I think customisable hulls is a good idea, but here's the crux: It's a good idea for a brand new game that doesn't already have a firmly established and entrenched system of using fixed base hulls.
So... Great for a new game (or as an entire game engine re-work), but as a patchwork on top of existing Eve, I don't see it working.
Plus as another poster suggested, the price of these T3 ships is most likely going to be too exorbitant to warrant people actually using them for regular PvP.
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nemmes
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:03:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ivana Drake can I protest against masternerdguy posts?
Yes its almost expected. "Take me up in the arms of fate, with the strength of conviction and the hope of dreams" |
Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:30:00 -
[84]
because of unfair nature of T2 i can't make any profit through invention.
The stocks exceed the demand very often, while the production isn't very mobile, requires heavy investments and has time vs income limitations.
T2 items which come from BPOs are ultimately better, i find many good below build costs with invented quality ME -4, PE -4.
Even in brand new field, the tech 2 rigs devs decided to nerf my income with COMOS site BPCs, which magically have 2-5 runs and ME 0 PE 0 or better. Now my tech 2 rig costs 150 mill to make, 10 mill to invent, and COSMOS site rig only costs 90 mill to make.
As an inventor I invest 2-3 days and 160 mill to make a tech 2 rig and realise that the market is unstable at 165 mill... 5 mill profit for me and 75 mill for COSMOS bpc owner.
Why does eve have to be like this?
And what are the plans for tech 3? Make it uneven again? |
Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:47:00 -
[85]
my dream ship
6 turret slots, two hi slots 4 medium slots 6 low slots
no drone bay
fast lock speed tech 2 armor resists
+100% to projectile damage
+10 medium projectile fall off per level +5% to target painter effectiveness
that's my tech 3 hurricane of doom
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:54:00 -
[86]
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
adapt or die
honestly i cant wait till these fun overpriced Lego ships come out :D
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Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:02:00 -
[87]
From the snippets we know, T3 looks to be more EVE-like than the current ships.
T1 ships feel like the tried and true ships that have been in use for 100s of years, retrofitted for capsuleer use.
T2 delves into the underlying pod tech and other limited jovian technologies available to create specialized subsystems which had never been considered before with traditional ship crew structure.
T3 looks to approach ship design and construction from the viewpoint of a capsuleer. A completely role-based approach, to fit with the agile and singular captain-as-ship nature of the elite pilot age.
Also the OP fits 1 of the two characteristics of a troll. That's a troll in my book.
"The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel." |
Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:09:00 -
[88]
i hope they are ****ing awesome and dont cost the earth.
done. |
Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:54:00 -
[89]
My dream ship, Stay with me.
Battleship Class Hull, Gallente 800 CPU, 9000 PWG
5 High Slots, 4 Turret 0 Launcher. 6 Medium Slots 8 Low Slots 2 Rig Hardpoints, 250 Calibration
300 m3 Cargo Hold
Max Velocity 95 M/S Inertia Modifier 0.100
Capacitor Capacity 5500 Recharge time 1000 Sec
Maximum Targeting Range 80km Max Locked Targets 5 Sensor Strength 18 Signature Radius 500m Scan Resolution 120mm
Standard Armor/Shield buff.
Shield Capacity 4000 Armor Hitpoints 8000
Drone Capacity 600 m3 Drone Bandwidth 125 mbit/sec
Gallente Battleship Bonus, 12.5% Bonus to drone Damage and tracking Per Level. Custom T3 Battleship Skill, 5% Bonus to armor and +3 to armor Resistance per Level.
Role Bonus, 25% Bonus to Scout and heavy drone speed
Epic no? But still lacking in areas. But balanced.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:56:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Gunnanmon on 11/01/2009 03:56:32
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Edit: Die. |
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Malthros Zenobia
The Cold Wind Foundation
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:45:00 -
[91]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point.
I think I found the true reason for this thread.
EFT warriors will have to adapt, like the borg, only more nerdy and with less females in the collective. |
Solomon Weyland
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.11 05:35:00 -
[92]
My only gripe with T3 ships is that this modularity is limited soley to T3. This is a completely and fundamentally new methodology in ship building and design, all 3 tiers of the game could benefit from this. Currently it seems like its going to be another set of "rich boys toys" that mean nothing at all for new, or time restricted players. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 05:38:00 -
[93]
Thanks for the laugh OP, now who's gonna clean up the coffee I sprayed all over my desk. |
F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 06:39:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point.
I think I found the true reason for this thread.
EFT warriors will have to adapt, like the borg, only more nerdy and with less females in the collective.
I can't help but think that anything that makes EFT less useful is a good thing -- not that it's a bad program, per se, just misused. Many people get along just fine without it, you know.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Ms Freeze
Marketing Research New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.01.11 08:29:00 -
[95]
When t2 was introduced the forum was full of similar threads, "t2 is the end of EVE", "Armageddon (the end, not the ship no) is coming" and blah blah blah.
Nothing new here, move on.
-- "You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman: Stuff you pay good money for in later life." - Tony Curtis |
flashfreaking
LFC Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.11 08:44:00 -
[96]
masternerdguy: Are you like the replacement of Tarminic? Giving yourself for hire to post ridiculous stuff on the forums, or are you just trolling? Enlighten us, caus you are confusing me |
Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.01.11 09:10:00 -
[97]
I know a tech 1 ship that can kick the crap out of a lot of tech 2 ships that are out there easily.
Its called a destroyer :P |
Zey Nadar
Gallente Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:15:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 11/01/2009 12:15:23 Does anyone have ideas how much work is required to put the T3 ships together? Is it going to be a timesink in skills etc like T2 ship production?
edti: typo
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Cyberjunk
4 wing Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:56:00 -
[99]
Originally by: flashfreaking masternerdguy: Are you like the replacement of Tarminic? Giving yourself for hire to post ridiculous stuff on the forums, or are you just trolling? Enlighten us, caus you are confusing me
I strongly doubt that, tarminic's posts seem almost professional compared with the crap that masternerdfail trows at us. |
Nick Parker
Caldari Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2009.01.11 12:56:00 -
[100]
My two concerns for the t3 ships are this.
1. Balance. Will a t3 cruiser bbq a capital ship or a BS with ease? From my understanding you can get modules that give the ship different bonuses. IF that is the case could you not (in theory) make a t3 Cruiser that has 10% damage, 5% ROF, 7.5% tracking, and 5% damage again? I mentioned damage twice because several gallente t2 ships get a double damage bonus. Or A t3 tank with Amarr HAC resists, 10% more armor per level, 5% bonus to resists, 5% Cap recharge or Able to use interdiction module? As long as they are balanced, with no 5% ROF, 5%rof, 5% damage, 5% damage ships, I think they will be ok.
2. Price. Yes they should be expensive, yes they should require resources to make. No they should not be like tech 2 BS (biggest letdown in CCP's history considering how much you pay for what you get). Say I have minmatar BS level 5 and Love the tempest hull. Do I A. Shell out 500m for a Vargur. or B. purchase a carrier. Hmmmm 2nd rate shiney toy that I can never realisticly take out to pvp in or a capital ship. (No brainer of course,Option C. train gallente or amarr BS to 5 and get one of theirs, but that is beside the point). Ships should be flown on what is needed for the situation, not on price. Granted I know that certain are going to be primaried (Rare ships, Ewar Boats, faction ships, etc)and certain ships are going to be out of the price range of your average player (Titans and Moms), but t3 is a big step for this game, and shouldn't be limited to novelty collectors items. And for what it's worth, they should be available to all players, not just big alliances who can afford them. Prices for them should go like this t1 frig, t1 destroyer, cruisers, T2 frigs, Interdictors, Tech 3 Frigates or similar size variant, Battlecruisers, t2 Cruisers, so on and so forth. |
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Rene
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:01:00 -
[101]
I haz can you Stuff OP? |
Gekkoh
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:11:00 -
[102]
I think it adds an exciting dimension to modifying ships, as well having to adapt on the fly to an unknown hostile force.
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zythyl
Caldari SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.11 13:17:00 -
[103]
EFT will be fine with T3 ships. All it is is programming code; math; an xml spreadsheet, ffs. It's not like there's a little man figuring out algorythms in your fluffing hard drive. |
Xiao Endo
Caldari Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:53:00 -
[104]
If this change breaks EFT then it will be the best thing that ever happened to EVE. Besides the nano nerf. And WIS. And the black space thing that CCP are totally going to do because I asked them nicely. |
Karunel
Princeps Corp T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:03:00 -
[105]
more capital letters will help your cause. ____
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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medecau
Gallente Super Bock Preta
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:12:00 -
[106]
darwin will fix it! - Pop it like it's hot. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:24:00 -
[107]
T3 Ships are not even on the testserver and no details about their component statistics are yet available and people are already whining?
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:25:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon T3 Ships are not even on the testserver and no details about their component statistics are yet available and people are already whining?
i'll start with T4 and New Capital ships next week, too -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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SchirmerN
Amarr x13
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:34:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Chribba WTS Ship Scanner II's in bulk.
lol |
Commander Yassir
The Seven Sins The Council.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:43:00 -
[110]
In all likelihood these things will be so expensive that no one will use them for pvp, they will just be for plexing, ratting, or mission running. Highly specialized to make lots of iskies basically. |
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mikey3000
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:48:00 -
[111]
First point-MasterNerdGuyFail you are NOT a troll...thats just mean to trolls Second point-Am i the only person who missed the blatant lack of logic below-
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: MHayes Change is good.
Unlike you.
change in the right direction is good, like letting carriers and dreads into hi sec. This is public relations marketing bullcrap.
So this OP thinks that carriers and dread should go into hi sec... Lets start a poll, how many people want to reckon how long they reckon a dread could realisticly last against just concord? 4days before dying of lack of sleep? Correct me if i'm wrong i've never ACTUALLY seen a dread, only a carrier (which i believe have the worst overall hitpoints including shield, i.e. the smallest?) and that was pretty uber, linking that with a dreads supposed dps and concords easy to hit ships...ok maybe 4 hours?
Also, i bet anyone here that either this guy lives on these forums talking s*** or he's one of the people sending letters to george bush (although it's now barack obama-congrats)saying (get rid of all our nukes it makes the world unbalanced...life is life and a lot of people enjoy eve because it isn't life exactly but it's like life enough that it's unique and fun, e.g. the markets, you can invest and make fortunes or lose and have nothing and there are production lines which, if they stopped would bring the worlds of eve crashing down. and it's also like life enough to be some called [b][u]adaptable[b/][u/] so let them bring t3 ships itll be good
oh and really sorry about the waffling thing its a problem
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:56:00 -
[112]
It just struck me, but is the OP aware about the T3 weapons that too are going to be modular? I just can't wait until I can fit on pulseautocannon with scorch crystals!
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:15:00 -
[113]
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Wow.
Scout "200bs, 25 dictors/hid, 100 T3 support" FC "Oh T3 ships ? RUNAWAY !!" Fetchez la vache !
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:18:00 -
[114]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Why not try...you know...to adapt? Or is it beyond your capability?
I am looking forward for T3. Why? Because I like new toys!
adaptation is irrelevant..........t3 ships are gonna unbalance the game.
Highly doubt it. CCP is quite good at balancing. Besides, how do you know? We dont know jack about T3! Just that you can compose your own ship! I will rather wait and see how it works first before I start spewing gall towards CCP, claiming failure, doomsday and unbalancing....
GOOD AT BALANCING?!!!! HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT! CALDARI ARE UBER WOOSES, GALLENTE ARE STRONGEST!
emo. Fetchez la vache !
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Scarlet Pimpdaddy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:27:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
emo.
Don't worry, school starts back tomorrow. Then we won't have to put up with masternerdgay's ramblings for another week.
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Price McChecker
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Posted - 2009.01.11 17:39:00 -
[116]
0/10.
Fail.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 17:44:00 -
[117]
I guess you missed the bit where they mentioned how expensive these would be.
Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
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Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.11 18:46:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Sokratesz I guess you missed the bit where they mentioned how expensive these would be.
I seem to have missed that aswell, actually - source? ------------------- |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 18:48:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Sirani
Originally by: Sokratesz I guess you missed the bit where they mentioned how expensive these would be.
I seem to have missed that aswell, actually - source?
At fanfest they mentioned several hundred mil per component so upwards of 1.2- 1.5bil per ship of 5.
Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Moonbow.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 18:51:00 -
[120]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Dibsi Dei T3 drake with max shield capacity and recharge!!!
yet another fc nightmare
No YOU
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Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:05:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Sirani
Originally by: Sokratesz I guess you missed the bit where they mentioned how expensive these would be.
I seem to have missed that aswell, actually - source?
At fanfest they mentioned several hundred mil per component so upwards of 1.2- 1.5bil per ship of 5.
And these are only going to be Cruisers? That would mean battleships are going to be 10bil+? |
James Holcomb
Caldari Davy Jones Locker Enforcers of Serenity
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:19:00 -
[122]
My ideal ship is going to be a true submarine style battleship. And because I'm a thinker...
9 High slots - for eight torpedo launchers and a cloak 5 mids - for whatever a space-marine would put in their mids 6 lows - for whatever a space-marine woudl put in their lows
I'd also like to see bonuses to torpedo damage/range/velocity as well as bonuses to cloak speed. Meh, we'll see. |
Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:28:00 -
[123]
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/3013413766_b43a5df439_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3012578629_13770ff1dc_b.jpg
makes me wonder where the turrets are going to go? ------------------- |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:28:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Sokratesz At fanfest they mentioned several hundred mil per component so upwards of 1.2- 1.5bil per ship of 5.
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Diek Ran
Amarr Autonums
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:43:00 -
[125]
AGAINST T3 SHIPS!!! AGAINST T3 SHIPS!!!
/me is throwing a Molotov Co(ktail into the cops' block
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:04:00 -
[126]
Ok, there is no way around this other than just to say what others are not... The emperor is wearing no clothes. This thread is dumb.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:24:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Barbara Nichole Ok, there is no way around this other than just to say what others are not... The emperor is wearing no clothes. This thread is dumb.
It's a masternerdguy thread, that's to be expected. I just read these so I can laugh at him. |
Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:49:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Sirani http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/3013413766_b43a5df439_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3012578629_13770ff1dc_b.jpg
makes me wonder where the turrets are going to go?
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Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Caldari Caercamel Corporate Interdictions
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:15:00 -
[129]
I'd quote previous here, but really cant be bothered.
So they'll be expensive to make. How many carebears do we know with a bil or two of kit on their golems/cnr's? Plenty.
So it'll be boy toys for the bears, and expensive losses for the PvP folks with more money than sense. (And maybe the odd PvP type who has the real desire and ability to use one properly)
For most people though it'll make bugger all difference, we'll still be out in disposable torp ravens, apoc's, mega's, hacs/hics/af's and whatever the hell else. So really, whats the grief?
At best, it'll be giving suicide gankers something new to have a stab at...
and just think how many emo tears will be getting shed :) it'll be powering pos's for YEARS I tell thee, YEARS!!!!
Em. -=-=-=-=- Reformed Carebear.
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Minmatar Citizen 290574
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:18:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Chribba WTS Ship Scanner II's in bulk.
lol... __________________________________________________
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Darkeen
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:52:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Malcanis All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
"Aye"
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Archonus
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:16:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Archonus on 12/01/2009 02:16:34 ITT: Protest against OP ever being allowed to breed
All those in favor say aye.
Aye
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Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:20:00 -
[133]
/me facepalms
Not you again... shin ku myo u
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Scarlet Pimpdaddy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:23:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Scarlet Pimpdaddy on 12/01/2009 02:23:48
Originally by: Archonus Edited by: Archonus on 12/01/2009 02:16:34 ITT: Protest against OP ever being allowed to breed
All those in favor say aye.
Aye
This has been tried and the thread was locked by mods.
edit: Trolling is against the forum rules however and you can hit 'report' next time he trolls.
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Saju Somtaaw
Gallente Department of Defence
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:24:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Archonus Edited by: Archonus on 12/01/2009 02:16:34 ITT: Protest against OP ever being allowed to breed
All those in favor say aye.
Aye
Aye, the Ayes have it, motion carried.
I'm for reasonably expensive T3 ships, as I'm planing to go into production when they come out. ---- --- --- Devs Sign Here; GMs and ISD welcome to :) |
Eternum Praetorian
Tupperware Party
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:25:00 -
[136]
whew.... thought I missed the protest!! I made it in time!!
CCP DON"T NERF NANO's!!!!!
Sighned....
Oh wait.... forum protests don't work?
Oh well, my wallets fat, I'm sure I can afford a Tech 3 ship when the come out and spin it endlessly inside of a station in Empire
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:38:00 -
[137]
if i ever see you in curse, op, i'll risk the wrath of my FC and ignore primaries until you die
just so you know.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.12 03:01:00 -
[138]
I'm calling shenanigans on the intended price tag of over a bil for cruisers. If they really said that at Fanfest then people would have pointed it out in all the other threads where the question of T3 costs were raised.
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Buzz Lightqueer
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:25:00 -
[139]
ITT : fail FC pretending to blame future game innovations for his fail.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:27:00 -
[140]
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Buzz Lightqueer
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:31:00 -
[141]
I'll take that as a compliment
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:44:00 -
[142]
No ... I refuse to protest this.
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As it stands right now, if you jump through a gate and see say ... an Astarte ... you can pretty much assume what said Astarte pilot has fit. Tech-III will add a whole new era of PvP to the game - which we can all admit has become a bit ... meh - because you won't know what you're engaging. This is the uniqueness ... the randomness ... that EVE **must** bring back and T3 will hopefully do that.
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Kithaca
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 20:03:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Faife if i ever see you in curse, op, i'll risk the wrath of my FC and ignore primaries until you die
just so you know.
you - break break, intel FC - go ahead intel you - point on masternerdguy, uber-strong-gallente ship of doom
FC - new primary target, primary is now masternerdguy. i want him locked, jammed, scrammed, webbed, td'd, painted, dampened, i dont care if you have to pull off you socks and stick them up his nose. kill him. and 10 mil for his corpse.
fleet - giggles with pleasure as they get their guns off.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.01.12 20:07:00 -
[144]
Luckily one isn't forced to fly one. The Ghost-training vote thread |
Gone'Postal
Aztec Industry
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Posted - 2009.01.12 20:10:00 -
[145]
thanks for the sig quote.
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 20:16:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Gone'Postal thanks for the sig quote.
Hahaha.
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Math'ra Hiede
Amarr Quality Assurance Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 23:24:00 -
[147]
This thread made me lol.
reminds me of finding him in a belt during a corp mining op with our new Orca (which cost an arseload...) and mailing me about being macro miners, when every single one of us was actively flying around and pulling dumb maneuvers in mining barges (yes we where THAT bored).
Sooo, if thats the sort of conclusions he makes, what would he be like as an FC?
"Look it's a dominix! it MUST be useing MISSILES and AUTOCANNONS! Primary that thing over there!"
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Daryldutch
Caldari Relentless Storm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:06:00 -
[148]
Apart from being a bunch of new ships to fly meaning new skills to develop it's also a new way to make income. And a break from the normal type of plexes you search since you do not know what is on the other side of a wormhole. There will be a rush of people in 0.0 searching out wormholes but it was said somewhere that you end up in a different solar system meaning you do not know if a fleet is warping to the wormhole searching to gank you. What I'm trying to say with this is that these wormhole systems might have multiple gangs flying through with only 1 way out which will make for an interesting dilemma, do i fit pve to do it faster and safer against the rats or do i do pvp in case there is an enemy fleet coming after you. And yes I know that you must scan out the wormholes but a fleet will be gathering there and a covert ops with a recon probe launcher will have no problem scanning them out as they wait on the verge of the wormhole.
I'm also wondering about the t3 ships tactical decisions if you only fit 2 or 3 module parts. Say for instance I wanna fit a t3 interceptor but to keep the mass low I only fit the modules which give me speed and agility bonus even turning out like a 0 high slot 5 mid slot and 5 low slot interceptor with a really low mass and signature radius.
Also on a side note I am looking forward to owning a bar in a station and finally seeing the market for trade goods like spiced wine's and exotic dancers come in the hands of the player base.
All i can say is bring Ambulation on. ------------------------- Some people wonder what insanity feels like, I wonder what sanity feels like. |
Sturdy Girl
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:16:00 -
[149]
I don't think i'm alone in thinking the OP should just shut up until March 10, when he can see what the expansion is actually like, and then can continue to shut up.
But seriously, isn't complaining about the expansion now a bit like throwing a fit that no-one remembered your Birthday the night before? Maybe thats what you used to do. I feel sorry for your parents.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:18:00 -
[150]
I'll just grace the OP with a quote by General McAuliffe:
NUTS!
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H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:27:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Malcanis All those in favour of CCP "fixing" the OP's forum access?
Yes - signed, nothing against trolls, but this is the worst one I've ever seen.
CCP is giving us new stuff to play - oh no, run to the forums!
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:32:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Sokratesz At fanfest they mentioned several hundred mil per component so upwards of 1.2- 1.5bil per ship of 5.
I heard no such mention, unless this was during the party after the presentation… |
Thaar
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:43:00 -
[153]
I was reading trough the first post in this thread, and was like: Yeah how dear CCP suggest that people who fight together actually takes the time to get to know eachother and discuss fittings and stuff before you start fighting.
Cus we all know that pvp is all about reading the alliance mail and see what pos your ordered to meet up at this time.
I dont see what you are worried about. Knowing the alliances, i guess that it will take about a month until the brainwashed "pvp gods" in 0.0 with all their "real pvp" get a alliance mail telling them how to put together their ship or they will not be tolerated into the fleet.
Everyone else, the ones in random lowsec/highsec pvp corps who doesnt care about " real pvp: alliance mindless blob style" Are probably doing stuff like, i dunno.. maybe discussing different setups and testing what works for them. And having lots of fun doing it.
An actual FC is my worst nighmare..
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:52:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Armoured C
Quote: officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
dude OMG O_O you seriously didnt just say that
Either way you slice this the OP is epic
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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OrDeR
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:11:00 -
[155]
hmmm , you don't like t3? may i smack you.. do not think your crying is going to stop them releasing it so might as well just quit eve. Its for the best mate |
Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:24:00 -
[156]
I have to agree with Thaar there, in that PVP is all about testing what works for you. Many ships and modules tend to be context specific, so 'copy and paste' setups are not really the answer.
For ages, I heard so many people state that Stealth Bombers are useless. However, I find them quite useful, used properley. At the moment, I am testing out tracking disruptors, despite all the negative press. I see no reason why they shouldn't neutralise sniper ships, fitted to the right ship.
Also, I don't know why there is so much protest against T3 ships when they haven't even been released yet. You've no idea what effect they will have yet, beyond wild speculation based on conjecture. At least give CCP the benefit of the doubt and wait and see. |
Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:29:00 -
[157]
Yea, I know.
T3 will increase my carbon footprint.
You will know. It's on your ass. |
SuckySycky5dolla
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:49:00 -
[158]
T2 T3...T4? T5? Thats a lame way to expand eve. With 48,000 concurrent connections eve is growing. We need more space and more storyline. Bring jovians instead
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Heisenburg Principle
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:26:00 -
[159]
crap thread |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:31:00 -
[160]
Dude lets wait and see what they are before we pass judgment. I'm sure one reason it is only cruisers at this point is to find balance before adding other t3 ships.
We the players have proven much more capable of breaking the system than the devs in the past, so there is no way to fully test it til it comes to live servers.
I expect it will have some modifications after release.
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Esamir
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:40:00 -
[161]
Originally by: masternerdguy ive explained im not a troll
Uhm, it's either that or you're a colossal cretin.
I'd take troll, personally |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:45:00 -
[162]
Originally by: SuckySycky5dolla T2 T3...T4? T5? Thats a lame way to expand eve. With 48,000 concurrent connections eve is growing. We need more space and more storyline. Bring jovians instead
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it....
(Jovians are base tech around 5 I hear, the Terrans around 10.....) |
Ghankis Khanid
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Posted - 2009.01.22 14:14:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 10/01/2009 19:24:25
Eh, don't worry, they'll be expensive enough so you'll seldom ever see them outside PVE duties anyway It's like throwing a tantrum over faction ships, officer modules or T2 rigs
Just wondering if you have ever been outside a pve duty?
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Solid Prefekt
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.22 14:27:00 -
[164]
I am personally excited to see these new ships and what they have to offer. This is not going to be an FC nightmare. At worst case scenario you might have to include if you are speed/tackle/ewar/dps equipped. Something along those lines. If not that then something else. Players have a way of adapting very well to all situations (just like they did with the speed nerf).
What I want is the T3 skill requirements and skill books now!! Gimme gimme.
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BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.22 14:40:00 -
[165]
Dont even worry about t3. It wont affect EVE at all.
Its a marketting stunt used by CCP, it will never see proper use as it'l be too expensive.
They will only be used as trophies for rich emp huggers (chribba is gonna have a whole set! xD) |
Gorith
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Posted - 2009.01.22 15:12:00 -
[166]
All i smell from the OP is.... "OMG I don't know the top (most used) setup for a ship in the enemy fleet so My FC (because i doubt your one yourself) might have to think on his feet"
stop panicking if your FC is even half worth his salt your experience wont change. And if you are the FC I feel sorry for your corp/alliance as you obviously are not secure in your ability to think on your feet.
And how would the fact it looks like a drake effect our target calling? does it show up in shiptype as drake?
asfor the atmosphere being changed? how? theres nothing in the lore saying ship hulls are all set in stone period. also when you create your own T3 hull (admitting i dont know all the details) im pretty sure your still going to haveto go through the PG/CPU/Slot balancing game
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Mephesto Nizal
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Posted - 2009.01.22 15:30:00 -
[167]
why bigger and more badass? Why not focus back to the small, and work it back up.
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Haldir Ravenclaw
Tenacious Tendencies Black Union Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.22 17:01:00 -
[168]
The first rule of T3 club is... you don't talk about T3 club.
I for one look forward to our T3 ship overlords. FC's will still do their job by calling name first, although saying ship type will be quite fun ("primary Joe Bloggs in the... ship combination 5-4-4-2-1! Screw it, just shoot at where everyone else is shooting at!") |
Warlord7
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Posted - 2009.02.12 18:30:00 -
[169]
Originally by: mcnuggetlol I like how we know nothing about T3 ships and people are still complaining, it's like they actively scour the game to look for things to ***** about.
I totally second this, here is ccp giving us customizable content the likes of which no game has clearly done on this scale and some peeps are against it. Tho I will say I am satisfied that there are ways to not suffer an SP loss if the t3 ships goes boom. Sounds like the "EJECT" button is gonna be used alot more now.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.12 20:16:00 -
[170]
Originally by: masternerdguy CCP is RUNINING THE ATMOSTPHERE OF EVE! T3 ships are an abomination of all the years of eve ships!
First of all, part of eve is cleverly fitting a set ship for a role, instead of bein able to make ur own custom *snip - Mitnal*
Secondly This is gonna make FCing a *snip - Mitnal* nightmare! Imagine a ship that looks like a drake thats an ewar platform? wtf? How are you gonna call primaries!
JOIN THE STRUGGLE
Oh look. They must have let the r/tards out of school early. You truly are the biggest idiotic troll on the EVE Forums. Congratulations, you've annoyed me enough to make me say:
Get the F off the forums and go **** yourself jackass.
Apoctasy > unfortunately, Concord does not reimburse citizens for their own stupidity
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.02.12 21:05:00 -
[171]
Nerf T4
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Ix Forres
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.02.12 21:24:00 -
[172]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Zeba I just feel sorry for the poor guy who has to redo eve fitting tool.
eft wont work thats the point.
Ahahahahaha. Right, because subsystems, which are really just modules when you look under the hood, are really really hard to add. I suspect the EFT dev already has a patch, or one will be forthcoming, that supports T3. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense | EVE Metrics (NEW) | I Tweet |
Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2009.02.12 21:26:00 -
[173]
Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Missed these quality threads. Where you on holiday?
no, ive been recruitin peeps for my corp and pvping in curse.
Can you get back to Syndicate with the rest of your alliance so I can kill you.
XOXOXO <3 Treb
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Norn Havwytt
Minmatar The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2009.02.12 21:33:00 -
[174]
6 Pages? Seriously, with post#15 it should have been clear... Darn, people are easy trolled these days
Originally by: masternerdguy im lookin at t3 hulls now, everythin is a phoenix!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazykinux/sets/72157608767597503/detail/[/quote
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Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.02.12 21:36:00 -
[175]
Who the falcon bumped this? _________________________
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.12 22:53:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Karrade Krise on 12/02/2009 22:53:00
Originally by: Norn Havwytt 6 Pages? Seriously, with post#15 it should have been clear... Darn, people are easy trolled these days
Originally by: masternerdguy im lookin at t3 hulls now, everythin is a phoenix!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazykinux/sets/72157608767597503/detail/[/quote
masternerdguy isn't a troll, he's just a **cking idiot. Very similar at times.
Apoctasy > unfortunately, Concord does not reimburse citizens for their own stupidity
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.02.13 02:32:00 -
[177]
Simple solution
FC calls primary on anye T3 ships he sees on the oposing fleet.
end of problem.
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Lurana Lay
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.13 04:56:00 -
[178]
I'm all for T3. Even though it wil ridiculously expensive and exclusionary and thus rarely if ever used for pvp. The only thing I think is a bad idea is certain 10 kms T3 Cruisers, which is apparently posible.
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James Malice
Gallente Coalition Of Resolution
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Posted - 2009.02.13 05:31:00 -
[179]
Thread locked!
Edit: Damn, forgot to log into my admin alt.
Originally by: MooKids I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
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Gottii
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.02.13 07:19:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Chribba WTS Ship Scanner II's in bulk.
WTS to sell Ship Scanner IIs once owned by Chribba himself! Complete with certificate of authenticity! Own a peice of the (Veldspar) rock!
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