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Cyborg94
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Posted - 2009.01.13 10:41:00 -
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Going to be replacing my 8800gts 512mb with one of these monsters but I cant really decide if I want to go the dual gpu route (295) or the single gpu (280). Price doesn't really matter and I will pay extra for the performance. How does eve run with 2+ gpu and also anyone with either of these cards could you confirm your highest stable aa (anti aliasing) through enhancer. I'm aiming to have a stable setting at 4x4 supersampling at 1920x1200 res. Thank you in advance. |
DeathMan
Minmatar Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.01.14 03:38:00 -
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EVE does use dual cores at least in my case with my dual 4850's IF you are in full screen mode. If your in window mode you'll only use 1 GPU.
Either way both are great choices, but IMO a single GPU would be more than enough for EVE. While the 280 is more powerful than my GPU, at 1920x1200 with it cranked (mind you no AA on) I can get 60-100FPS no problems, both my GPU's I can get 110-180 FPS.
Which both my GPU's should be close to, maybe slightly more powerful than a 280 in this case. If you want a good single card, go with the 285 that will be coming out. It will save a few bucks, unless you play alot of other games that require the power then definatly the 295 is the way to go. Be warned that with SLI, or Crossfire there can be issues with games running slower or causing other glitches in games like a studdering feel yet still having great FPS.
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TomNewDelhi
MTND Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.14 18:24:00 -
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Hey man, i recnetly bought a 280GTX, i used to have a 8800 gts, eve ran fine on that card but i found some of my other games chugged a little,
Eve runs very smooth in 1900 1200 in top graphics, i would give you thumbs up for the 280, i dont know how much more the 295 is but if its quite a bit more then i would save the cash and go with the 280
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eladi
Gallente Interstellar Federal Forces
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Posted - 2009.01.15 23:17:00 -
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Hm why take the 280 when the Ati 4870 X2 outpreforms it alot, more preformance for your mony. Also the 285 is a far better card then the 280, but duno how the prize compares of this one. |
TomNewDelhi
MTND Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.17 08:47:00 -
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because ATI cards suck, thats why |
N0R0X
Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2009.01.17 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: TomNewDelhi Edited by: TomNewDelhi on 17/01/2009 16:23:54 because ATI cards suck
Wrong
Although ATI currently make rubbish drivers their GFX cards are really good. Nvidia is constantly playing catch up right now.
With Nvidia on the other hand currently make really good drivers and not so good GFX cards imo.
You will always get elitists so best read lots and lots of review websites. See what they benchmark with, and what games they test the cards with. I have seen reviews that the moment the resolution goes over 1600pixels the 4870x2 tends to eat the GTX cards.
Take anyones word here with a pinch of salt. I never listen to one liners. Get some facts.
In my opinion if it was GTX280 vs 4870x2 then I would go for the ATI but if GTX295 vs 4870x2 then they are sort of even. depending on the game/task nvidia is slightly faster. |
AlleyKat
Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cyborg94 I'm aiming to have a stable setting at 4x4 super sampling at 1920x1200 res. Thank you in advance.
If you achieve that, I'd like to hear about it.
The most stable I've achieved with a similar (to the 8800gts) card is 70FPS AVG, with a 9800GTX @ 1900 x 1200, with 16x CSAA (4 color + 12 cv samples), plus High Bloom, plus extreme shadows, with 16X Anisotropic Filtering. I'm sure you'll know this can drops to a horrible 35FPS though.
So, I'm feeling the same thing you are regarding upgrading cards, does EVE work with multi-GPU cards? And the answer I've heard is that currently it does not, but it will soon (fanfest presentation) - but even this was slightly vague, as they were discussing being compatible with Multi-GPU cards, but only so people can run multiple accounts off each GPU, not making one client use all the available GPU power.
Clarification is needed.
Your other point is also interesting - why does EVE not have any kind of benchmarking tool? Surely this would be a great thing to promote the game? If graphics card vendors (BFG, Sapphire, etc) are able to clock the speed of their Graphics cards on one of the most visually interesting games on the market - surely this will boost awareness of EVE? As for nVidia, perhaps one of the tech-savvy eve-olites would be able to explain to me why I've seen 30% or greater performance gains in the last year due to drivers alone in every other DX9 game, but not EVE, which has remained static in its IQ and FPS? Race-Driver GRID is a great example of this, as when it was first released I would have trouble running AA or even motion blur at anything greater than 800x600, and now can run at 1900x1200 with maximum 'effects' thrown in and still get vertical tear on my screen because it's rendering at greater than 60FPS?
Not complaining. Not in the slightest - just simply and plainly do not understand things like graphics engines and DirectX libraries. I just know what runs and what doesn't.
In answer to your question - I'd wait until CCP can absolutely, positively state that the EVE client(s) will make use of Multi-GPU-enabled cards before buying anything, especially at the prices the GTX295 is shipping for at the moment, because until then, it will be wasted GPU power.
If you want the Card to play other games, then keep doing what you are doing I guess and keep your eye on what the performance figures are for the games you play or want to play, and balance the equation from there.
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Adaris
Gallente E X I U S
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Posted - 2009.01.20 11:45:00 -
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tbh, Either 280 or 285 is fine.
I'm using a 260 and EVE runs full graphics and full fun. *******
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Sadi Claymore
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Posted - 2009.02.07 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sadi Claymore on 07/02/2009 21:54:16 Hey all, just built out a Q9650 quad core powered system and paired it with a new EVGA nVidia GTX 295 dual gpu graphics card. Well I found out that the current Eve client crashes in window mode with mult-gpu enabled so be carefull out there before dishing out the big bucks on this card. Running the client with one gpu turned off resulted in a less that stellar performance than my old rig powered with a nVidia GTX 8800. Lots of disk thrashing was occurring with 4 clients running resulting in me limiting cache sizes to 256k on all 4 clients. Something I did not have to do on my old system. Hopefully EVGA and CCP can come up with some mutual supportive goodness to utilize the bleeding edge of GPU designs on the nVidia side of things. How does the ATI 4970 x2 work in multi gpu mode?
Sadi
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Captain Campion
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.02.08 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Campion on 08/02/2009 13:38:44 I play at 1920x1200 with 4x AA.
I use a BFG 8800GT.
If I was buying a new card now, I'd get a 285.
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Ragnar Foulberg
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:25:00 -
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I use a pair of 295s (that's quad SLI) on a system with 6GB DDR3 RAM running the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate.
I thought I had seen what EVE had to offer before, but until you've seen at on a top of the line 30" monitor at the highest possible resoultion, you don't know what you're missing! It's like playing a whole new game.
The 295s I have are from EVGA. This system runs EVE easily while running Photoshop, Word, a bunch of Firefox windows, and Dreamweaver in the background.
If money really is no object, go for the best.
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WeedDog
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Posted - 2009.02.22 23:46:00 -
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I play at 2560x1680 res with my 8800 gtx on a quad all settings maxed and getting an avg of 70 fps.
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Nerdy Noodle
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Posted - 2009.02.23 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nerdy Noodle on 23/02/2009 08:20:47 I use a EVGA card too, EVGA is awesome, they even let you OC your cards without voiding the warranty. I have a EVGA 9800 GTX+ SSC Edition 512MB, it works with max res with my 22 inch Acer LCD, and I've never had any issues with it in windowed, or maximized mode. Now all I have to worry about is my ISP.. lol
Edit: On topic, I'd have to say the card your looking at is probably overkill unless you have one of those dual monitor setups.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.03.03 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Campion If I was buying a new card now, I'd get a 285.
Just did exactly that. Spent some time digging through comparisons of the 285 vs the ati 4870, reviews, pc builder forums etc.. seems what you can make out as a (very rough) generalisation is that the 285 performs on a fairly equal level to the 4870. The price is almost the same and they both have some pros and cons.
What made me go for the 285 was the fact that EVE has melted my ATI-cards. I play other games just fine, max settins, never had issues. But in EVE my ATI cards goes nuts and get heat damage. My latest replacement nVidia card for a quarter of the ATI-cards price had no issues whatsoever. Somehow I believe that the drivers or some design of EVE isn't very good for ATI-cards. The funny part is that most of the overclocker forums basicly stated that the main reason to get the 285 is that it performs equal to the 4870 - but it keeps very stable at both lower temperature and energy consumption.
That's quite vital points for my experience of how EVE treats the hardware.
Either way, we'll see. I'm gonna set mine up with a dual monitor and see how it behaves, when it arrives. -
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