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Kahrlena
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:07:00 -
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Just like the nano battle now theres the falcon battle..fortunatley u guys kept us somewhat informed on the takings of the speed nerf.. let us try it out and poof u have a good out put,,now no more nano whines.So CCP is the falcon out of whack..or is it "working as intended"
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Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrlena Just like the nano battle now theres the falcon battle..fortunatley u guys kept us somewhat informed on the takings of the speed nerf.. let us try it out and poof u have a good out put,,now no more nano whines.So CCP is the falcon out of whack..or is it "working as intended"
It is a non-issue tbh, its just a very few whiners spamming the forums with threads hoping that it looks like the issue has more support than it actually has.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:10:00 -
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There isnt any issue *jedi wave arm thing again* Don`t you just hate when people force you to read their signature before you realize you are reading it? |
Jonas Barcal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:13:00 -
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Meh I hate repeating myself..
All these questions will probably not get any attention (whether they need it or not) until after T3 is out the door and more than likely Walking In Stations also.
People on these forums have been asking for a complete mechanic change not a 'nerf' to a percentage so that takes alot of time and effort.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:18:00 -
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I have yet to see any real falcon threadnaughts with content just endless lolthreads from kiddies who got jammed and didn't like it so therefore falcon=op so why would ccp even bother replying?
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Kahrlena
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:29:00 -
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Because whether you die hard falcon fans believe it or not sorry to say this but "It is an issue" Enough people are talking about it to make it an issue. Man do i remember the hate feeling when they was going to apply the speed nerf. I belived it wasnt an issue but it was just like the falcon issue. No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue. |
Jonas Barcal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrlena Because whether you die hard falcon fans believe it or not sorry to say this but "It is an issue" Enough people are talking about it to make it an issue. Man do i remember the hate feeling when they was going to apply the speed nerf. I belived it wasnt an issue but it was just like the falcon issue. No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes Yes and I said you'll have to wait as CCP is busy making me some eye candy. |
Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrlena No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes because the same 20 annoyed vocal players with an agenda and an army of alt poasters is 'enough' to make it an issue. |
Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kahrlena No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes because the same 20 annoyed vocal players with an agenda and an army of alt poasters is 'enough' to make it an issue.
/signed
A few threads full of content is a sign of a interesting topic, but ppl posting thread after thread with no content just shows clearly as day that its a few sad trolls spamming the forums with alts hoping to make the issue larger than it actually is. |
Kahrlena
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kahrlena No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes because the same 20 annoyed vocal players with an agenda and an army of alt poasters is 'enough' to make it an issue.
/signed
A few threads full of content is a sign of a interesting topic, but ppl posting thread after thread with no content just shows clearly as day that its a few sad trolls spamming the forums with alts hoping to make the issue larger than it actually is.
I have to disagree, I have seen alot of people post good content threads with mathematical equations and all to support there claims. unless you can give better information or theorys then those posted claims, You cant possible discredit the claims or view them as crying none content threads.
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baltec1
R.U.S.T. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.15 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrlena
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kahrlena No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes because the same 20 annoyed vocal players with an agenda and an army of alt poasters is 'enough' to make it an issue.
/signed
A few threads full of content is a sign of a interesting topic, but ppl posting thread after thread with no content just shows clearly as day that its a few sad trolls spamming the forums with alts hoping to make the issue larger than it actually is.
I have to disagree, I have seen alot of people post good content threads with mathematical equations and all to support there claims. unless you can give better information or theorys then those posted claims, You cant possible discredit the claims or view them as crying none content threads.
I can because what they say just doesnt happen to me in game.
If I fit an ECM on my geddon I dont get perma jamed, I dont even get jammed 50% of the time. My bomber has yet to fail at driving off or killing a falcon and I have encountered very few at their max range.
The falcon is not at falt its the people failing to adapt. |
Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Murina on 15/01/2009 19:01:48
Originally by: Kahrlena
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kahrlena No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.
Yes because the same 20 annoyed vocal players with an agenda and an army of alt poasters is 'enough' to make it an issue.
/signed
A few threads full of content is a sign of a interesting topic, but ppl posting thread after thread with no content just shows clearly as day that its a few sad trolls spamming the forums with alts hoping to make the issue larger than it actually is.
I have to disagree, I have seen alot of people post good content threads with mathematical equations and all to support there claims. unless you can give better information or theorys then those posted claims, You cant possible discredit the claims or view them as crying none content threads.
If what you say is true then their would be no need for so many alts starting so many threads.
Even you yourself posted a thread about ECM disguised as a request for info but after reading your responses to input from ppl who think falcons/ecm are fine you are obviously a nerf supporter and were before you even started this thread.
And as to the facts and figures all they are is simple math that everybody knows already anyway, they prove nothing as far as ECM being overpowered is concerned, as only in game combat can do that and the fact is that falcons and gangs with them die regularly every day to gang with and without other falcons in them. |
Noisrevbus
Caldari Breams Gone Wild
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:10:00 -
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See, Kahrlena, this very thread displays why there isn't any headway in the discussion.
The primary concerns by the 'anti falcon' side have already been adressed by the 'pro falcon' side, and as threads surface and resurface there aren't really any new arguments to be read. The discussion have stranded around wether ECCM is viable as a defense (and wether giving up multiple midslots for a defense is acceptable) and also if support-sniping is viable as a counter to ECM ships (read: Falcons) or not. Where the only counter-argument to people posting support-sniping setups and strategies have been "it doesn't work" (or "it doesn't work well enough") from the opposing side.
Past that point, despite 50 new threads, i have not seen any new constructive discussion. |
Kahrlena
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kahrlena on 15/01/2009 19:13:28 Edited by: Kahrlena on 15/01/2009 19:12:47 Aye, I do think they need to be balance, Im not trying to hide that fact, but there no descent reason I can give besides I hate being removed from a fight indefintely by a single ship until im space dust. That why I believe the developers need to state what they believe to clear confusion. The claim about everyone posting with alts..meh i think its just how people respond. Myself im just trying to sell this toon, while I fight a war with my main |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:13:00 -
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Most pilots do not care about the forums. What is discussed here are opinions of a handful of players. I really hope CCP goes an independent way and does not get blinded by few players who try to look like many using topic spam.
In fact, there is no "issue", there is more a Falcon dislike or a dislike to ECM at all. |
Eternum Praetorian
Tupperware Party
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:51:00 -
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Yes, history repeats itself.
You don't see it happening again your blind simple as that. And the nano nerf was kind of a surprise was it not? Everyone was like "whats with this patch" and then "oh so this is the nerf...that was way sooner then expected"
There is little reason why a real quick hit to a Falcons bonus or range could not be made at anytime. And yes, every single person I know (most of which have never posted here) thinks they are overpowered.
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Major Celine
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:53:00 -
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Well, every single person I know think Falcons and ECM are fine. And now?
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Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
It is a non-issue tbh, its just a very few whiners spamming the forums with threads hoping that it looks like the issue has more support than it actually has.
It's an issue and no, we won't let you keep your only win button. You'll need some skill after we fix ecm and falcons. Afraid much? |
Major Celine
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:11:00 -
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ECM won't be touched afaik, maybe Falcons will and maybe ECCM. You won't stop whining after the next patch. |
Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Originally by: Murina
It is a non-issue tbh, its just a very few whiners spamming the forums with threads hoping that it looks like the issue has more support than it actually has.
ad hom...ect ect
I find falcons fun and interesting to deal with, if you cannot handle them its your skill that is lacking...oh thats right your leaving to play a easier game aint ya... |
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Major Celine
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Amira Shadowsong It's an issue and no, we won't let you keep your only win button. You'll need some skill after we fix ecm and falcons. Afraid much?
More tank and dps skills? How interesting! |
Arous Drephius
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:16:00 -
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There is no issue. |
Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
I find falcons fun and interesting to deal with, if you cannot handle them its your skill that is lacking...oh thats right your leaving to play a easier game aint ya...
Why would I need to handle it myself? I am in a falcon of my own. I'm almost max skilled in it aswell. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:17:00 -
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there is no issue |
Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
I find falcons fun
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Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Murina on 15/01/2009 20:24:41
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Murina
I find falcons fun and interesting to deal with, if you cannot handle them its your skill that is lacking...
Fail edit tbh, so i fixed it for ya.
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Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
I can't pvp without my overpowered falcon.
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
Fail edit tbh, so i fixed it for ya.
You're saying you don't find falcons fun then? |
Major Celine
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Amira Shadowsong Why wouldn't I be able to handle it? I am in a falcon of my own. I'm almost max skilled in it aswell.
Funny thing: Seems that every Falcon hater is a Falcon pilot. |
Birkinz
Caldari Mitsukashi Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2009.01.15 20:34:00 -
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Out of 300K subscribers its pretty likely that there will always be players that are not satisfied.
There will always be powerful tactics or the game will suck, therefore the lamers will always get pwned, never counter it and constantly whine. Changing the Falcon will not stop that, just move it to something else.
The people that are happy and playing the game don't post "wow i's so happy with the balance at the moment" (me) so it looks like there is more dissatisfaction then there is.
also empty vessels make the most noise...... |
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