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Johli
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.01.15 21:48:00 -
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/15/new.york.plane.crash/index.html
*monocled* at this.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.01.15 21:59:00 -
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Man. Today is a really bad day to go swimming in the Hudson river. Actually most any day is really but today is even worse. Wee bit cold outside.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:16:00 -
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Pin a medal on that crews chest for a controlled ditch. |
Fyrewyre
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:20:00 -
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Big props to the pilots, I'm from the uk, I'm watching this on CNN now, if I ever visit the US I want that man flying the plane.
I also want him as FC -------------------------------------------
"Never let anyone stop you having fun"
Mad Snoz, leeds |
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:23:00 -
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Silly plane, why are you in the water! Your not a boat you belong in the air! By the way, does it annoy you when you didnt realise that you were reading my sig? |
Ivana Drake
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:41:00 -
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I would prob feel like the luckiest person on earth after getting out of that one alive |
Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.15 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Fyrewyre Big props to the pilots, I'm from the uk, I'm watching this on CNN now, if I ever visit the US I want that man flying the plane.
I also want him as FC
I want the pilot I had when I went to Switzerland, we're descending to land... clouds clouds clouds, OH **** WE'VE LANDED ALREADY.
Was awesome. |
The TX
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2009.01.16 00:30:00 -
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Clik fur lolz.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ivana Drake I would prob feel like the luckiest person on earth after getting out of that one alive
Yes, wide bodied jet + open water is usually not a good combination. |
Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.16 06:22:00 -
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One bird? We need flying tanks! shin ku myo u
Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness. |
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 07:21:00 -
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My cousin flies for US Airways, out of JFK, and I was damned upset when I saw it at work. She's OK though, not on the flight, or at least on the flight and OK, gotta clear that bit up.
So, yeah, I felt a lot better that everyone was OK, but not until I heard it from her.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:28:00 -
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Silly plane.
Should have fitted a Smartbomb.
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:31:00 -
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it`ll take a while to dry that mutha out
destroy everything you touch |
Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: The TX Clik fur lolz.
Lol I c wat dey did infact, do der.
Also it's been too long without a TX post too. Eeeugh.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 16/01/2009 11:54:28 First thought I had when I read about it this morning was "mad skillz, man".
edit: but the real question is... if the hudson river would flow in the opposite direction of the plane, at exactly the same speed the plane tries to achieve, would it take off again? |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:56:00 -
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Hats off to the pilot. |
Math'ra Hiede
Amarr Quality Assurance Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:06:00 -
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Seriously impressed with keeping it intact and landing it safely. Great boon as well that all aboard are alive and safe.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:18:00 -
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Silly Plane! By the way, does it annoy you when you didnt realise that you were reading my sig? |
Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rondo Gunn One bird? We need flying tanks!
Two, one in each engine. So yeah, he killed two birds...not going there... |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rondo Gunn One bird? We need flying tanks!
This is one bird. They hit what sounded like a flock.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich They hit what sounded like a flock.
And not just any flock but a flock of big birds (Canada Geese they think). The engines are made to suck in a 4 pound bird and be ok but those things can be more than twice that.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 16/01/2009 18:33:06
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Rondo Gunn One bird? We need flying tanks!
This is one bird. They hit what sounded like a flock.
Ouch. GL landing it again at such low speeds, with only one engine..surprised at how long it took them to shut it off though.
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |
Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.01.16 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Ouch. GL landing it again at such low speeds, with only one engine..surprised at how long it took them to shut it off though.
It's not too bad. Most multi-engine planes (and ALL of the big jets, IIRC) are designed to be perfectly flyable with just one engine. Sure, climb performance is going to suck, and it's going to be a very stressful landing, but an engine failure in a jet like that is a procedure, not an emergency, and one the pilots are trained to handle.
Now, when you lose both engines, then you're in trouble, and had better hope you're within gliding range of a good landing spot. Note that flying it isn't the problem, the plane will be perfectly controllable with no engine power (you're even required to demonstrate it to get your license), it's finding a non-suicidal spot to put it down that's the problem. Thankfully the planes I fly are much smaller, and therefore have a lot more non-suicidal options. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.01.16 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 16/01/2009 20:36:36
Originally by: Sera Ryskin Now, when you lose both engines, then you're in trouble, and had better hope you're within gliding range of a good landing spot. Note that flying it isn't the problem, the plane will be perfectly controllable with no engine power (you're even required to demonstrate it to get your license), it's finding a non-suicidal spot to put it down that's the problem. Thankfully the planes I fly are much smaller, and therefore have a lot more non-suicidal options.
Not necessarily. Depends on why you lost all your engines.
Totally unrelated to this case read the story of the Gimli Glider. Great and remarkable story and well worth the read (not all that long). If you do not want to read it then long story short is a 767 that ran out of fuel had to glide to a landing (and don't forget a plane like that has a scary sink rate...not really meant to glide). The engines (and APU) run the hydraulics. No engines, no APU = no hydraulics = zero control on a plane like that. Story has a happy ending (turns out Boeing engineers provided one last gasp measure which was *just* enough to save the plane).
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Straight Chillen
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.16 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Straight Chillen on 16/01/2009 20:52:06 IM SICK OF THESE MUTHA FCKIN BIRDS ON THIS MUTHA FCKIN PLANE!
but on a side note, It is truely incredible that it wasnt worse then it was. Ferrys from all sides of the hudson rushed to the plane as soon as it had went down. I think they were in the water for about 3 minutes before the first ferrys arrived.
Kudos to that pilot, those people really owe theyre lives to him. A little factoid too, He is the one and only person to have emergency landed a plane in water with no loss of life. |
7shining7one7
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.01.16 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 16/01/2009 21:09:16 let's add a little non abbrassive non related side casualty in the mix to spice up the articulations.
that's probably what the OP expected but didn't find, it's nothing of cirumstance however. |
Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.01.16 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Straight Chillen but on a side note, It is truely incredible that it wasnt worse then it was. Ferrys from all sides of the hudson rushed to the plane as soon as it had went down. I think they were in the water for about 3 minutes before the first ferrys arrived.
Kudos to that pilot, those people really owe theyre lives to him. A little factoid too, He is the one and only person to have emergency landed a plane in water with no loss of life.
Not to take anything away from the pilot (he deserves his accolades) a big part of the reason no one died was because of those ferries. That water is about 36F/2C. Air temperature was cold (not sure...well below freezing). In those conditions people can perish in 15 minutes unprotected (and doubtless few would have had a jacket on not to mention being wet). The pilot picked pretty much the perfect spot to ditch. There are piers and ferry services right there. By being able to pluck everyone off so quickly definitely saved lives.
IIRC there was a plane that ditched in a river in Washington D.C. shortly after take off 20 or so years ago. Only a few people survived that one and that is considered mostly due to the trouble in getting boats to the plane (I think the river was iced over so boats had trouble).
Again, huge kudos to the pilot and nothing taken away from him but those ferry captains deserve a measure of thanks too.
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7shining7one7
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.01.16 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Straight Chillen but on a side note, It is truely incredible that it wasnt worse then it was. Ferrys from all sides of the hudson rushed to the plane as soon as it had went down. I think they were in the water for about 3 minutes before the first ferrys arrived.
Kudos to that pilot, those people really owe theyre lives to him. A little factoid too, He is the one and only person to have emergency landed a plane in water with no loss of life.
Not to take anything away from the pilot (he deserves his accolades) a big part of the reason no one died was because of those ferries. That water is about 36F/2C. Air temperature was cold (not sure...well below freezing). In those conditions people can perish in 15 minutes unprotected (and doubtless few would have had a jacket on not to mention being wet). The pilot picked pretty much the perfect spot to ditch. There are piers and ferry services right there. By being able to pluck everyone off so quickly definitely saved lives.
IIRC there was a plane that ditched in a river in Washington D.C. shortly after take off 20 or so years ago. Only a few people survived that one and that is considered mostly due to the trouble in getting boats to the plane (I think the river was iced over so boats had trouble).
Again, huge kudos to the pilot and nothing taken away from him but those ferry captains deserve a measure of thanks too.
on a sidenote:
i must congratulate you on a well spirited and quite aware attitude as of late, i must however remind you that hating me is still the proper course for now. |
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