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Archzia	Posted - 2009.01.15 22:39:00 - [1] So, because CCP nerfed the warring gang invite trick back in June or July 2008, I'm looking for new options to gank high sec mission runners that happen to be in ships that have one too many faction + deadspace mods. Is there any way to possibly trapping this mission runners anymore besides dec'ing their corp? Or has CCP truly made high sec safe for carebears?
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.15 22:50:00 - [2] pretty much your only option is to steal loot or ninja salvage and hope they're silly enough to shoot at you.
ToTheCore Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:12:00 - [3] Suicide ganking is still a valid tactic, though you will need more ships and coordination than before to pull it off. If your target is an active tanker (CNR, Golem, etc.), I would suggest neuting their cap to hell so that your damage plus the NPC damage is enough to break their tank before CONCORD shows up. Don't forget to have an alt nearby to scoop the loot.
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:18:00 - [4] Remote repairing someone who is flagged to someone else makes the repairer flashy red to someone else. just a note.
dr doooo	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Archzia So, because CCP nerfed the warring gang invite trick back in June or July 2008, I'm looking for new options to gank high sec mission runners that happen to be in ships that have one too many faction + deadspace mods. Is there any way to possibly trapping this mission runners anymore besides dec'ing their corp? Or has CCP truly made high sec safe for carebears? So you are looking for virtually risk free high rewards, and a guide as to how to do it. I've heard there are some guides on flea bay that may fit your needs
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 15/01/2009 23:53:13 Originally by: Archzia So, because CCP nerfed the warring gang invite trick back in June or July 2008, I'm looking for new options to gank high sec mission runners that happen to be in ships that have one too many faction + deadspace mods. Is there any way to possibly trapping this mission runners anymore besides dec'ing their corp? Or has CCP truly made high sec safe for carebears? Fly into mission deadspace -> Salvage (To make yourself look like a ninja) -> Steal loots. If they shoot you, come back in gankship. For extra points, have a friend in an inty/frig nearby to bump the guy continuously so he can't warp out. Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Archzia	Posted - 2009.01.16 00:16:00 - [7] Originally by: dr doooo So you are looking for virtually risk free high rewards, and a guide as to how to do it. I've heard there are some guides on flea bay that may fit your needs Well, war dec'ing was going to be my next step if no one wanted to throw around some good ideas and possibly see this 4bill CNR with officer/deadspace mods I've had my eye on for awhile go boom w/ a thread to boot. Originally by: Kahega Amielden Fly into mission deadspace -> Salvage (To make yourself look like a ninja) -> Steal loots. If they shoot you, come back in gankship. For extra points, have a friend in an inty/frig nearby to bump the guy continuously so he can't warp out. Yeah, was already thinking about doing this, but it's almost a surefire way to make them suspicious if I do decide to war dec. Anyways, hopefully I'll tag this CNR by the end of the month and have a thread up here.
K1RTH G3RS3N Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2009.01.16 03:12:00 - [8] ok dont know if what im gonna tell you still works but promise you keep it to china farmers. im assuming by warring gang invite you meen this? create an alt and have that alt create a corp then war dec your alt. now you have to find someway to get the chinafarmer to join fleet with you... you need to fleet him though so you can quickly invite yourself, warp, then leave fleet. have him open in private chat also - ask him something there, when he responds fleet yourself so he wont notice. or did you meen the have your corp members apply to join corp then invite to corp as they land on target? At first I was like, I'm gonna violate you. But then I was like, I'm gonna violate you.
Bongo Debbie	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:04:00 - [9] It doesn't work like that anymore. Keep up.
State Security Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:20:00 - [10] Grind Rats. Get Bounties off head. Join thier corp. Kill all you want but don't ever Dock in a station again as they can then kick you from Corp. What? Yeah, yeah, "State Security" seeker of truth and justice...This isn't something he couldn't figure out anyways.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.20 17:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Fly into mission deadspace -> Salvage (To make yourself look like a ninja) -> Steal loots. If they shoot you, come back in gankship. 2. And die horribly because the carebear was in a pvp fitted Nightmare and promptly owned your ass. I get laughs out of that one.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.20 18:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Ancy Denaries I get laughs out of that one. Oh its usually mutual Not really a troll
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.20 18:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Ancy Denaries 2. And die horribly because the carebear was in a pvp fitted Nightmare and promptly owned your ass. What colour is the sky in your world? We're Recruiting!
BruisedMoon Amarr Power Seed Enterprises VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.20 20:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Ancy Denaries 2. And die horribly because the carebear was in a pvp fitted Nightmare and promptly owned your ass. What colour is the sky in your world? lmao.... carebear... pvp... nightmare.... omg... I cant stop laughing!
Steve Celeste Caldari Moonbow.	Posted - 2009.01.20 21:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Ancy Denaries 2. And die horribly because the carebear was in a pvp fitted Nightmare and promptly owned your ass. I get laughs out of that one. Oh come on. Once you know their ship, or in case of caldari the mission they are in, it's all over for them.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.20 21:43:00 - [16] Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 20/01/2009 21:44:41 Don't believe me? Ask my corp :D (Okay, so he didn't die because he ran off, but still, was worth the laugh. Note to self: Fit a WEB)
Chomin H'ak Integrated Takeovers	Posted - 2009.01.20 21:46:00 - [17] I'm wondering if the Nightmare in the aforementioned post can spawn a mass of Templars... Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
Enden Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.01.20 22:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Chomin H'ak I'm wondering if the Nightmare in the aforementioned post can spawn a mass of Templars... Indeed it can, so i suggest fitting a PvP specific tank. Also make sure you don't release drones cos they may draw aggro from group 1, also group 2 maybe be big DPS and smack talk heavy! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. TIP: -Group 1 will drop the mission item!
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 07:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 21/01/2009 07:08:35 Originally by: Ancy Denaries Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 20/01/2009 21:44:41 Don't believe me? Ask my corp :D (Okay, so he didn't die because he ran off, but still, was worth the laugh. Note to self: Fit a WEB) Saw the video. He killed a stupid heron who came into a mission. Nightmare = pwnage. Don't think Carebears have teeth? Think again! --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.01.21 07:30:00 - [20] I believe the 'current' trick is to get an alt to dec them and do nothing (or just enough to keep the dec going) for a few weeks. Apply to get in to your alts corp. Follow the mission runner out (hunt him, whatever) and when you find him, approve yourself joining the corp. WTFPWN him. Just don't then immediately jump OUT of corp because that's an exploit.. You have to sit in your noob alts corp until the wardec expires.. Nothing says you have to undock, but its kinda boring.. You'll get tears, and probably petitioned..
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 13:25:00 - [21] Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 21/01/2009 13:34:32 Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Originally by: Ancy Denaries Don't believe me? Ask my corp :D (Okay, so he didn't die because he ran off, but still, was worth the laugh. Note to self: Fit a WEB) Saw the video. He killed a stupid heron who came into a mission. Nightmare = pwnage. Don't think Carebears have teeth? Think again! --Isaac I didn't fraps the Heron "kill" actually. I shot a Probe, which warped out and came back in a Typhoon. Get your facts straight, McFlimsy The Heron was a few days earlier and that was a noblet, so I didn't expect him to return with teeth like I expected this guy to do. But yeah, if you PvP fit the Nightmare, it's nasty. Anyone who does not believe it, go look at EVE Files for "Burning EVE 4". DHB Wildcat = Awesome ^^ (Of course, there's that troublesome part of having to throw ridiculous amounts of isk at it for it to REALLY shine ) Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 14:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Lana Torrin I believe the 'current' trick is to get an alt to dec them and do nothing (or just enough to keep the dec going) for a few weeks. Apply to get in to your alts corp. Follow the mission runner out (hunt him, whatever) and when you find him, approve yourself joining the corp. WTFPWN him. Just don't then immediately jump OUT of corp because that's an exploit.. You have to sit in your noob alts corp until the wardec expires.. Nothing says you have to undock, but its kinda boring.. You'll get tears, and probably petitioned. Pure evil...and borderline exploit. But if I saw an unknown guy inside my mission a ship that could threaten me AND I was wardecced, and paranoid enough to warp out Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Rheed Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.21 15:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Ancy Denaries I didn't fraps the Heron "kill" actually. I shot a Probe, which warped out and came back in a Typhoon. Get your facts straight, McFlimsy The Heron was a few days earlier and that was a noblet, so I didn't expect him to return with teeth like I expected this guy to do. But yeah, if you PvP fit the Nightmare, it's nasty. Anyone who does not believe it, go look at EVE Files for "Burning EVE 4". DHB Wildcat = Awesome ^^ (Of course, there's that troublesome part of having to throw ridiculous amounts of isk at it for it to REALLY shine ) I'm planning on pvp fitting my nightmare... How do you have yours fit? I may steal your setup ;)
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 16:05:00 - [24] Originally by: Rheed I'm planning on pvp fitting my nightmare... How do you have yours fit? I may steal your setup ;) Sort of off topic, but first get a HG Crystal set and train Biology so you can use at least standard blue pill. It helps, shatloads. Saves on the fitting as well. My fit looks like this: Highs: 4x Megapulse 2x Heavy NOS Mids: 1x XL-shield booster 1-2x Boost amps 0-1x Webs (replace an amp if you want web) 2x Invulnerability Fields 1x Disruptor or long range scram (faction) 1x Heavy Cap booster Lows: 4x Heat sink 1x DCU T2 / Faction / Deadspace as your economy allows. Important parts for faction/deadspace is primarily on the tank part. Invuls from T2 to DG does a lot, as does the booster (duh). Pith-A Type is good bang for the buck, CN works, T2 is okay-ish but your boost is gonna suffer a bit here. Pith-X is zomg, but horridly expensive :D Shield amps should be around 40% bonus, so Pith-B types or equivelant officer type works. If you need more info, start looking at Burning EVE 4. Wildcat has the fit spot on and knows how to handle that ship. He does, however, keep a Falcon alt cloaked nearby in case crap hits the fan. I don't have that luxury :/
Rheed Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.21 16:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Rheed I'm planning on pvp fitting my nightmare... How do you have yours fit? I may steal your setup ;) Sort of off topic, but first get a HG Crystal set and train Biology so you can use at least standard blue pill. It helps, shatloads. Saves on the fitting as well. My fit looks like this: Highs: 4x Megapulse 2x Heavy NOS Mids: 1x XL-shield booster 1-2x Boost amps 0-1x Webs (replace an amp if you want web) 2x Invulnerability Fields 1x Disruptor or long range scram (faction) 1x Heavy Cap booster Lows: 4x Heat sink 1x DCU T2 / Faction / Deadspace as your economy allows. Important parts for faction/deadspace is primarily on the tank part. Invuls from T2 to DG does a lot, as does the booster (duh). Pith-A Type is good bang for the buck, CN works, T2 is okay-ish but your boost is gonna suffer a bit here. Pith-X is zomg, but horridly expensive :D Shield amps should be around 40% bonus, so Pith-B types or equivelant officer type works. If you need more info, start looking at Burning EVE 4. Wildcat has the fit spot on and knows how to handle that ship. He does, however, keep a Falcon alt cloaked nearby in case crap hits the fan. I don't have that luxury :/ Sweet! That looks like a great fit! Sorry to go off topic again... but where do you normally run missions? My hub is so crowded now that I am thinking of changing locations...
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 16:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Rheed Sweet! That looks like a great fit! Sorry to go off topic again... but where do you normally run missions? My hub is so crowded now that I am thinking of changing locations... I'm cute, not daft. But all it takes is for you to run a locator agent. Good luck, my man. I spend less and less time running missions these days though so it might take a while before you find the right system.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 17:08:00 - [27] Best idea when you PvP in a Nightmare is however: Keep your corp around :D
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.21 17:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Ancy Denaries I'm cute, not daft. But all it takes is for you to run a locator agent. Good luck, my man. I spend less and less time running missions these days though so it might take a while before you find the right system. /me wrings hands. Damn! Lost another one to Geico! We're Recruiting!
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2009.01.21 17:56:00 - [29] if you want a fight, and i mean a real balls to the wall fight, use an assault frig to kill ravens. Use a ship scanner on your probe ship to look for CNR's without EM or Thermal resist, then start ninja looting with your Retribution. You will find that little red flashies are easier to shoot at then big red flashies.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.21 18:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Lithalnas if you want a fight, and i mean a real balls to the wall fight, use an assault frig to kill ravens. Use a ship scanner on your probe ship to look for CNR's without EM or Thermal resist, then start ninja looting with your Retribution. You will find that little red flashies are easier to shoot at then big red flashies. That's actually not a half bad idea. I'll have to try that on my evil alt. Thanks for the tip :D

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