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Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:04:00 -
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Ok just got into my first BS ( a scorp ) yesterday, This is my first setup not for PvP.
What do u think?
High Slots:
2x425mm rails - Thorium
4xCruise missle launchers - Paradise and Catalysmn
Med Slots:
XL Shield Booster
Ballistic Deflection
Heat Disipation
Named ( explosive )hardener
Large Shield Extender
Medium Regolith Shield Extender ( 480hp)
2x named Cap Batteries
Low Slots:
Magnetic Field Stabilzer
2x Co-Processors 1's
Ballistic Control System
My shield is around 7200hp with this setup, I need the CO-processors in order to fit everything there, It seems ok to me, What do u think?
Thanks 
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:04:00 -
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Ok just got into my first BS ( a scorp ) yesterday, This is my first setup not for PvP.
What do u think?
High Slots:
2x425mm rails - Thorium
4xCruise missle launchers - Paradise and Catalysmn
Med Slots:
XL Shield Booster
Ballistic Deflection
Heat Disipation
Named ( explosive )hardener
Large Shield Extender
Medium Regolith Shield Extender ( 480hp)
2x named Cap Batteries
Low Slots:
Magnetic Field Stabilzer
2x Co-Processors 1's
Ballistic Control System
My shield is around 7200hp with this setup, I need the CO-processors in order to fit everything there, It seems ok to me, What do u think?
Thanks
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:10:00 -
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I can't even fly a BS but if you want to be cost-effective when shooting NPCs, maybe you should use more turrets and less missiles.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:10:00 -
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I can't even fly a BS but if you want to be cost-effective when shooting NPCs, maybe you should use more turrets and less missiles.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:16:00 -
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Definitly ditch that medium extender for an EM hardener
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:16:00 -
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Definitly ditch that medium extender for an EM hardener
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:17:00 -
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If you don't wanna get ganked at a belt buy us pirate types you might wanna consider fitting a warp core stabaliser or two. Just a suggestion I would prefer it if you didn't
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:17:00 -
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If you don't wanna get ganked at a belt buy us pirate types you might wanna consider fitting a warp core stabaliser or two. Just a suggestion I would prefer it if you didn't
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Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Voltex on 28/07/2004 13:22:22
lol thanks, just i like my shield to be as big as pos, i see the benifits in having an EM hardener ( 50% against all types overall ) and if i ditch my co-processors i would have to make changes to the setup ( get rid of large extender ).
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Voltex on 28/07/2004 13:22:22
lol thanks, just i like my shield to be as big as pos, i see the benifits in having an EM hardener ( 50% against all types overall ) and if i ditch my co-processors i would have to make changes to the setup ( get rid of large extender ).
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: FuPhal on 28/07/2004 13:27:46
Doesnt matter how big ure shields are, when ure getting hit by EM missiles/torps which u have 0 resists to, cruise missiles will do about 4-500 damage each and god knows what torps do without resists :/ the extra 480hp u get from that extender will last u 1 extra missile.
If ure sure u wanna keep that extender then u might wanna swap a ballistic or explosive hardener for an EM hardener
EM hardener will only boost ure EM resist ( Electro Magnetic ) Nearly all ships have 0 resist as standard to this damage type where as all ships have some decent resist to the other damage types.
EM damage comes from various things
Mjolnir torpedoes
Paradise cruise missiles + fof variety with diff name
Sabretooth light missiles + fof variety with diff name
rocket... ( dont know that name )
EM projectile ammo
Microwave laser crystals..
If i was to fit just 1 hardener to a ship for general use it would be an EM hardener
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: FuPhal on 28/07/2004 13:27:46
Doesnt matter how big ure shields are, when ure getting hit by EM missiles/torps which u have 0 resists to, cruise missiles will do about 4-500 damage each and god knows what torps do without resists :/ the extra 480hp u get from that extender will last u 1 extra missile.
If ure sure u wanna keep that extender then u might wanna swap a ballistic or explosive hardener for an EM hardener
EM hardener will only boost ure EM resist ( Electro Magnetic ) Nearly all ships have 0 resist as standard to this damage type where as all ships have some decent resist to the other damage types.
EM damage comes from various things
Mjolnir torpedoes
Paradise cruise missiles + fof variety with diff name
Sabretooth light missiles + fof variety with diff name
rocket... ( dont know that name )
EM projectile ammo
Microwave laser crystals..
If i was to fit just 1 hardener to a ship for general use it would be an EM hardener
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Mimiru
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:47:00 -
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personally, for a scorp i go either extreme long range or uber sheild tank
long range:
3x named 425s 3x cruise luanchers
4x tracking comps (best u can get)
1x sensor booster
2x hardeners (the large bs spawns tend to slip a bs into its opt range before i can finish it)
1x named XL
1x rcu
2x tech 2 hyb dmg mods
1x ballistic ctl
get about 115km from the spawn and have fun. Fairly boring and takes a little while to kill spawns, but pretty safe. Keep pointed twords a safe place to warp to. Only tested against serpentis and blood raiders.
uber tank:
2x 425 4x seige luanchers
3x named hardener of main dmg type of npc
2x named hardeners of secondary dmg type of npc
1x sheild amp
1x named xl sheild booster
1x large extender
4x power diags
all you need to know about this one is that guardian commodres wreck for around 18.9 dmg and you should have around 10k sheilds 
Ofc for both use tech 2 or named wherever possible. Both fit with electronics 5 eng 5 and weapons upgrades 4. Might not even need elec 5.
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Mimiru
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:47:00 -
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personally, for a scorp i go either extreme long range or uber sheild tank
long range:
3x named 425s 3x cruise luanchers
4x tracking comps (best u can get)
1x sensor booster
2x hardeners (the large bs spawns tend to slip a bs into its opt range before i can finish it)
1x named XL
1x rcu
2x tech 2 hyb dmg mods
1x ballistic ctl
get about 115km from the spawn and have fun. Fairly boring and takes a little while to kill spawns, but pretty safe. Keep pointed twords a safe place to warp to. Only tested against serpentis and blood raiders.
uber tank:
2x 425 4x seige luanchers
3x named hardener of main dmg type of npc
2x named hardeners of secondary dmg type of npc
1x sheild amp
1x named xl sheild booster
1x large extender
4x power diags
all you need to know about this one is that guardian commodres wreck for around 18.9 dmg and you should have around 10k sheilds
Ofc for both use tech 2 or named wherever possible. Both fit with electronics 5 eng 5 and weapons upgrades 4. Might not even need elec 5.
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Muspell
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:20:00 -
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Hmmm... that setup won't save you from anything tbh :P
For a tanked setup you might want something more like this..
4x siege launchers
2x 425mm rails
XL shield booster
shield boost amp
em ward
thermal ward
kinetic ward
3x cap recharger II's
lows: whatever you need to fit the above setup. if you can, one warp core stab or two... you shouldn't fit hybrid damage mods for only 2 guns, waste of low slots. you'd better put in some power diags
personally I prefer turrets for npc, but I hear the missiles are very good against them, and not as expensive as they used to be. You should use siege launchers, the cruise launchers are crap due to very high rof and their inability to use torps. The torp works wonders against npc.. my friend even took out a commander in his raven faster than his buddys on apocs can take down 1 mill pirates.
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Muspell
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:20:00 -
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Hmmm... that setup won't save you from anything tbh :P
For a tanked setup you might want something more like this..
4x siege launchers
2x 425mm rails
XL shield booster
shield boost amp
em ward
thermal ward
kinetic ward
3x cap recharger II's
lows: whatever you need to fit the above setup. if you can, one warp core stab or two... you shouldn't fit hybrid damage mods for only 2 guns, waste of low slots. you'd better put in some power diags
personally I prefer turrets for npc, but I hear the missiles are very good against them, and not as expensive as they used to be. You should use siege launchers, the cruise launchers are crap due to very high rof and their inability to use torps. The torp works wonders against npc.. my friend even took out a commander in his raven faster than his buddys on apocs can take down 1 mill pirates.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 28/07/2004 21:05:43
Being completely silly, I ran a NPC Scorp set up with 4 Ion Blasters, 2 Heavy Nosf's, Thermal/Kinetic hardeners (for Serpentis), XL booster, Amp, web tracking comp and 2 cap rechargers.
GREAT for killing Enforcers. Not so good for the Executors (which always ran away) .
And train up shield management and Caldari BS for big shields on a Scorp.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 28/07/2004 21:05:43
Being completely silly, I ran a NPC Scorp set up with 4 Ion Blasters, 2 Heavy Nosf's, Thermal/Kinetic hardeners (for Serpentis), XL booster, Amp, web tracking comp and 2 cap rechargers.
GREAT for killing Enforcers. Not so good for the Executors (which always ran away).
And train up shield management and Caldari BS for big shields on a Scorp.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:06:00 -
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There is no place for a medium shield extender on a battleship, even the large ones aren't worth much in my opinion.
Also remember that large cap batteries don't give you enough extra cap to give you a recharge bonus greater than a cap recharger 2 or even a nice named cap recharger 1. Large Cap batteries are crap, wait for tech 2 large cap batteries to show up, or x-large cap batteries.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:06:00 -
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There is no place for a medium shield extender on a battleship, even the large ones aren't worth much in my opinion.
Also remember that large cap batteries don't give you enough extra cap to give you a recharge bonus greater than a cap recharger 2 or even a nice named cap recharger 1. Large Cap batteries are crap, wait for tech 2 large cap batteries to show up, or x-large cap batteries.
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