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Finger Puppet Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.01.18 22:23:00 - [1] I don't understand how none of this great stuff was rolled to drop from this guys cargohold. Are the rolls in EVE predisposed to destroy faction gear and blueprints? This is complete crap http://tenthlegion.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2229859
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.01.18 22:37:00 - [2] As far as I have seen/experienced it is completely random. One thing that does seem to stand out is that the amount dropped increases the faster the victim is destroyed .. could just be coincidence though.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:15:00 - [3] I recall hearing that faction gear has less hitpoints and when a ship is destroyed damage is distributed to the modules in the ship, making faction gear more likely to break on death. I don't know if I believe that though. Oh, is it possible that stuff was just inside the containers that were destroyed?
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:18:00 - [4] Originally by: Nyphur I recall hearing that faction gear has less hitpoints and when a ship is destroyed damage is distributed to the modules in the ship, making faction gear more likely to break on death. I don't know if I believe that though. Oh, is it possible that stuff was just inside the containers that were destroyed? I think it probably was inside the cans- usually a 50-50 chance of dropping at best what I don't understand is how a jetcan can float around in space for a while but cans inside a cargo hold have all teh toughness of a 5-year-old little girl
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:21:00 - [5] Originally by: JordanParey what I don't understand is how a jetcan can float around in space for a while but cans inside a cargo hold have all teh toughness of a 5-year-old little girl A wizard did it.
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:48:00 - [6] The can with loot either drops or doesn't.
Finger Puppet Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.01.19 03:41:00 - [7] The stuff was not in a can, anything in a can is automatically destroyed and isn't even listed or viewable.
MarieFrance Tessier	Posted - 2009.01.19 05:44:00 - [8] Edited by: MarieFrance Tessier on 19/01/2009 05:44:08 right in the mail: Giant Secure Container, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Omega, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Magnetic Plating (Cargo) Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I (Cargo) Cynabal Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Large Armor Repairer (Cargo) Domination Control Tower Medium Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Gyrostabilizer, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Reactive Plating, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination 650mm Artillery (Cargo) Domination 100MN MicroWarpdrive (Cargo) Domination Medium Autocannon Battery Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Large Shield Booster (Cargo) Domination Invulnerability Field, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Halo Gamma (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Epsilon (Cargo) Domination Large Autocannon Battery Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Warp Scrambler, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Delta (Cargo) Halo Epsilon (Cargo) Domination Photon Scattering Field (Cargo) Domination Armor EM Hardener (Cargo) Domination Nanofiber Structure (Cargo) Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Adaptive Nano Plating (Cargo) Domination Siege Missile Launcher (Cargo) Domination Dual 425mm Autocannon (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Alpha (Cargo) Domination Medium Proton Smartbomb (Cargo) Domination Shield Boost Amplifier, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Medium Shield Booster (Cargo) Domination Heavy Missile Launcher, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Magnetic Scattering Amplifier (Cargo) Domination Stasis Webification Battery Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination 100MN Afterburner (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Gamma (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Beta, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Explosion Dampening Amplifier (Cargo) Halo Omega (Cargo) All this crap was in a GSC. The board parse is just ****ed up.
Finger Puppet Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:07:00 - [9] Ya, it's all from his cargo bay, whats your point? Originally by: MarieFrance Tessier Edited by: MarieFrance Tessier on 19/01/2009 05:44:08 right in the mail: Giant Secure Container, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Omega, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Magnetic Plating (Cargo) Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I (Cargo) Cynabal Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Large Armor Repairer (Cargo) Domination Control Tower Medium Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Gyrostabilizer, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Reactive Plating, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination 650mm Artillery (Cargo) Domination 100MN MicroWarpdrive (Cargo) Domination Medium Autocannon Battery Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Large Shield Booster (Cargo) Domination Invulnerability Field, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Halo Gamma (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Epsilon (Cargo) Domination Large Autocannon Battery Blueprint (Cargo) Domination Warp Scrambler, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Delta (Cargo) Halo Epsilon (Cargo) Domination Photon Scattering Field (Cargo) Domination Armor EM Hardener (Cargo) Domination Nanofiber Structure (Cargo) Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Adaptive Nano Plating (Cargo) Domination Siege Missile Launcher (Cargo) Domination Dual 425mm Autocannon (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Alpha (Cargo) Domination Medium Proton Smartbomb (Cargo) Domination Shield Boost Amplifier, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Medium Shield Booster (Cargo) Domination Heavy Missile Launcher, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Magnetic Scattering Amplifier (Cargo) Domination Stasis Webification Battery Blueprint, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination 100MN Afterburner (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Gamma (Cargo) Low-grade Halo Beta, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Domination Explosion Dampening Amplifier (Cargo) Halo Omega (Cargo) All this crap was in a GSC. The board parse is just ****ed up.
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Finger Puppet The stuff was not in a can, anything in a can is automatically destroyed and isn't even listed or viewable. This is 100% wrong. And has been said, "Giant Secure Container 3 1.26 M" is the reason. The stuff was all in the cans, and all of them failed the drop roll. Still pretty sucky luck that all three popped, but a lot less implausible than the entire list of stuff going down without cans. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.19 06:45:00 - [11] To explain it further: Every item on the ship and in the cargohold has a chance to drop on ship pop. If the stuff is in cans, the roll is only made for the can itself, and if it pops, everything in it goes pop too. If it drops, everything in it drops too.
Finger Puppet Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.01.19 09:43:00 - [12] Edited by: Finger Puppet on 19/01/2009 09:46:13 No, thats not the way it works. If there's anything in the container it's lost. Those items were in his Cargo Hold, not a container, those were probably the left overs that didn't fit in the container and he just tossed them in cargo. There's no telling what was in the containers. If a container does drop, it's empty. You NEVER see whats in a container, lost or dropped
Miranda Matari key tech limited	Posted - 2009.01.19 09:57:00 - [13] Edited by: Miranda Matari on 19/01/2009 09:58:04 Originally by: Finger Puppet The stuff was not in a can, anything in a can is automatically destroyed and isn't even listed or viewable. Absolutely not true I had my Frig popped a week ago, in my cargohold i had a password-protected secure container with valuables ... and everything shows up nicely on the killmail. The container went pop of course ... what i don't know is if it would have dropped - would they be able to access it without the password ? -- Miranda Matari of the key tech limited
Kessiaan Minmatar Army of One	Posted - 2009.01.19 14:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Finger Puppet No, Sera, YOUR 100% WRONG. If there's anything in the container it's lost. I lost a hauler once. Items in cans show up on the KM. The can drops or it doesn't. If you still believe us, go put some crap in cans in a hauler, blow it up, and see for yourself.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.19 18:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Miranda Matari The container went pop of course ... what i don't know is if it would have dropped - would they be able to access it without the password ? They could easily just reproccess the can and get what's inside.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2009.01.21 14:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Karrade Krise Originally by: Miranda Matari The container went pop of course ... what i don't know is if it would have dropped - would they be able to access it without the password ? They could easily just reproccess the can and get what's inside. Actually, the password doesn't even work when the can isn't anchored. Found this out in 2006 the hard way. Probably hasn't changed since then.

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