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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.19 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 19/01/2009 17:56:03
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
110k+ EHP, 196 DPS tank, cap stable with rep running, 917 gun DPS, 859m/sec top speed, 16sec TTW (lol?). Again, max implants.
111k+ EHP, 225 DPS tank(before overloading and exile, 349 after), 1020 gun DPS, 891m/sec top speed, 16.2 TTW. Max implants. (also, i only get 894 DPS from the gun DPS on that mega, not 917). I get a better scan resolution, sensor strength AND an extra med as well.
[Hyperion, Beating Bellum copy 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Large Armor Repairer II Internal Force Field Array I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ancillary Current Router I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x2 Hobgoblin II x1 Hammerhead II x2
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.19 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rhadamantine
Originally by: Goumindong Never flown one, has not got the skills.....
More word playing games dong?
I am not sure how pointing out that he is wrong about the Hyperion by explicitly beating is "omh best" megathron in every single category that he decides to use is "playing word games". Can you elaborate?
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rhadamantine
Originally by: Goumindong Can you elaborate?
You've stated you don't fly them, so your EFT warrior type ways don't cut the mustard. It's just another form of your word games on here.
I am not sure what flying them has to do with whether or not the ship is better...
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.19 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 19/01/2009 21:10:32
Originally by: Bellum Eternus It wasn't sufficient pre-QR
Really? That is quite funny.
Maybe you should try something other than sitting 500m from your target.
edit: The second web of the Hyperion > the 37.5% tracking boost on the Mega.(shoot, a TP is better than that)
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.19 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
The Hype used to be an effective solo ship, now it's not. The Mega wasn't as effective solo as the Hype was, but now that they're both at the same effectiveness level post QR (that is to say, not very) the Hype is effectively redundant when a Mega could be used in it's place.
You mean the Hype makes the Mega redundant. In any situation where you would use a Mega with blasters you could instead use a Hyperion and be more effective. Use the Hyperion.
If you can shore up the weaknesses of the Mega then you can do the same for the Hyperion AND use the spare med slot for more useful endeavors(like supplementary ewar)
What you're suggesting is lunacy, that someone choose a ship that is worse in every way for no reason.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: ChalSto
Have you been traumatized with a blastership in your EvE-childhood, or why do you try to spam, derail or troll every threat about them?
I fail to see how pointing out problems with the OP is "derailing". Is there some reason other than "I am better than you" that I am wrong?
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Less cost, particularly if you don't use rigs and keep it fully insured. Like I said before, it's a trade off and the slightly better performance is offset by substantially less cost.
You're talking about buying slaves and double 5% damage implants and you're worried about a 5 million isk increase in cost per ship after insurance? You save that by not having to buy c-type ANPs. You can save that on a tech 1 MWD instead of named or tech 2... You've got fits that you cannot fit without rigs for goodness sake. Expensive rigs.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 20/01/2009 01:24:26
Originally by: BiggestT
You could do *much* better by (training for and) fitting rcu II's, and putting say a trimark or w/e in the rigs.
Maybe on cost(i am unsure what an ACR costs these days), but otherwise certainly not. A trimark is 15% armor and its stacking penalized just like everything else. A tech 2 ANP is 15% armor and its stacking penalized just like everything else.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.20 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Letifer Deus Edited by: Letifer Deus on 20/01/2009 04:00:26
Originally by: dong The second web of the Hyperion > the 37.5% tracking boost on the Mega.
the second web is only better if you're solo. Let us also not forget that the mega can overload the guns for far longer.
You said this in the other thread and i explained how it was wrong there. Read it.
You're talking a .5% increase in DPS... maybe, you get 13 extra seconds, a whole 2-3 cycles. But the Hyperion does much more DPS to start with that its more or less inconsequential.
If the second web is only better if you're solo, then fit something that is better when you're not.
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