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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
301
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Posted - 2012.04.18 15:51:00 -
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I am very glad the game added the option to trade in a lot of other systems.
You should try it.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
481
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:28:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Mittens was pretty pissed when he gave the speech. He claimed that he deserved what he got, but changed his mind and went on to say he was thrown under a bus. His intention is clearly to disrupt the game for as many people as possible, which is clearly against the EULA that some of us have actually read. Congratulations you have won the coveted "first idiot to bring up the alliance panel for no reason in an unrelated topic" gold-plated safety scissors award
The event was the catalyst to the current situation while we're on the topic of idiots and safety scissors there.
You probably mistook it for your video card drivers. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
215
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:31:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Mittens was pretty pissed when he gave the speech. He claimed that he deserved what he got, but changed his mind and went on to say he was thrown under a bus. His intention is clearly to disrupt the game for as many people as possible, which is clearly against the EULA that some of us have actually read. Congratulations you have won the coveted "first idiot to bring up the alliance panel for no reason in an unrelated topic" gold-plated safety scissors award The event was the catalyst to the current situation while we're on the topic of idiots and safety scissors there. You probably mistook it for your video card drivers.
Actually no, it wasn't. Burn Jita was originally going to happen to celebrate Mittani getting >10000 votes for CSM. |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:34:00 -
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TehRaw Australis wrote:Xanthia Grint wrote:
Did u know goonswarm was banned from 104 other online mmos?
Gives u summit to think about no?
No I didn't. I have to admit I do think about the tops of mountains all the time. I have seen the top of the mountain, and it is good. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
215
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:39:00 -
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CCP's response to Burn Jita is the most appropriate and level-headed.
They will reinforce the node. |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:51:00 -
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Obax Bannon wrote:Why not just have Concord wardec them Would be fun trying to see them even get there then
Interesting mechanic to implement if a player repeatedly ganks in a single system...
30 day system ban by CONCORD enforcement for excessive criminal activities over a short period of time (TBD). |
Zorakk
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:52:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:say if goons are all in drakes and start firing missles at monuments lag the whole thing down, yeh that would make the game suck for everyone, and ccp would ban goons, so yes goons pls go crashjita node and gettted banned
You have any idea how many accounts you are talking about? It won't just be Goons. All CFC.
I don't seen CCP banning almost 40,000 accounts any time soon... That's a lotta cash to lose. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:53:00 -
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CCP will load balance, and then enjoy all the free press they are gonna get about this player driven event..
If the servers crash it's no ones fault but CCP, they have had a month of warning of where it was gonna take place, ample time to reinforce the node.
If CCP was gonna take action, it would have been weeks ago.. They aren't.. they are gonna sit back and watch.. Any action they take against this would blow up in their face, as much of the Eve community, for or against Goons, sees Nothing wrong with this player driven act.. Not only that, but they warned everyone a month ahead of time that it's gonna happen. There's no excuse for getting caught up in it.. No excuse for not knowing about it. |
Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
39
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:55:00 -
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I dont know why so many people have their panties in a wad about DekCo and Jita. There are other trade hubs that you can buy your stuff at.
TL;DR
Avoid Jita. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
107
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:27:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:say if goons are all in drakes and start firing missles at monuments lag the whole thing down, yeh that would make the game suck for everyone, and ccp would ban goons, so yes goons pls go crashjita node and gettted banned Scooter Kondur for CSM 8 Chairman! Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
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Jorma Amatin
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:40:00 -
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Varesk wrote:I dont know why so many people have their panties in a wad about DekCo and Jita. There are other trade hubs that you can buy your stuff at.
TL;DR
Avoid Jita.
So for two days people are less likely to clog Caldari space and the trade routes to other hubs might be less camped. Game's a sandbox, I hope that CCP does nothing for all the people who choose to not stay informed nor act intelligently when CFC decides to flex their numbers and essentially stop Jita trade. |
Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
40
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:45:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:say if goons are all in drakes and start firing missles at monuments lag the whole thing down, yeh that would make the game suck for everyone, and ccp would ban goons, so yes goons pls go crashjita node and gettted banned Scooter Kondur for CSM 8 Chairman!
fyi, people dont suicide gank people in drakes and jita is on its own node so the lag wouldnt effect any other system.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
486
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:49:00 -
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Another threads insinuating blanket bans of every player in an alliance a particular player or group of players dislike. Why does high-sec pubbie filth continually imagine that 0.0 alliances are hive minds where every player does exactly the same thing. Many members of the Clusterfuck Coalition will be in Jita strangling the system, not all of us will be; but let's just go ahead and ban them all anyway. Collateral damage am I right? Its okay if it happens to people who happen to play in an alliance I dislike for nebulous reasons I can't quantify.
Given the that Jita sits in a node all its own its already at the maximum potential "reinforce" that can be applied to a system in Eve-Online. That being the case, CCP doesn't have to do anything but sit back and watch, which hopefully will be all they do. It would be a shame if they had to go and prove that they've changed with their recent business partnerships and all.
I imagine the last thing any of the filth want is for Mittens to be proven right. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
486
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:52:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:say if goons are all in drakes and start firing missles at monuments lag the whole thing down, yeh that would make the game suck for everyone, and ccp would ban goons, so yes goons pls go crashjita node and gettted banned Scooter Kondur for CSM 8 Chairman! fyi, people dont suicide gank people in drakes and jita is on its own node so the lag wouldnt effect any other system.
You can fire at the monument outside the Jita 4-4 undock without invoking Concord. Of course hundreds of us doing that would only Tidi the system not crash it. Scooter lives in a world where spamming "FoFoFoFo" in local chat lags the game. |
Sepia Curria
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:10:00 -
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Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.
Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.
But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally). |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
620
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:16:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Cap it off with Jita being set to 0.4 security and making the stations destroyable, along with all the crap in them. Jita left a wasteland in the end with all sorts of Chronicles and made up news articles and CCP having a huge marketing gimmick to exploit.
I would LOVE to see Jita randomly put to 0.4 sec at random weeks of the year. With no preadvice of course so all the stuff inside will be trapped. Hmm Hmmmmm! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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baltec1
1112
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:20:00 -
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Sepia Curria wrote:Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.
Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.
But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally).
The Jita node cannot crash. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
179
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:21:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote: high-sec pubbie filth filth high-sec filth Wall of text redacted.
No new information here from a goon stooge. Move along.
Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
10
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:23:00 -
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So a large 0.0 alliance decides to disrupt Empire trade.
Sounds like emergent gameplay to me. CCP will do nothing, except if it starts impacting the infrastructure service for other players.
Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing. |
Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
80
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:26:00 -
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whether you want to accept it or not. its player driven content. which is a good thing.
they would be stupid to interfere in any way unless it seriously renders their game unplayable (server crashing) which wont happen |
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:37:00 -
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Sepia Curria wrote:Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.
Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.
But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally).
Again you're assuming that we would go out of our way to crash a system for the hell of it. The filth still don't get it. Taking Jita offline would make it impossible for us to murder you all. We want to cause as much misery and destruction as possible in Eve Online, not staring at the login screen.
As for your second part there. CCP has allowed nodes to crash and degrade plenty of times. There's not a whole lot they can do about players going where they will without turning Eve into WoW. That's why they implemented TiDi, so that when players are doing things that hammer the hardware it doesn't take the game offline. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:39:00 -
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Pohbis wrote: Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.
Eve-Online's pubbie population has proven time and time again that they're willing to go the extra mile when it comes to raging about goons. Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
631
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:40:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Sepia Curria wrote:Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.
Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.
But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally). Again you're assuming that we would go out of our way to crash a system for the hell of it. The filth still don't get it. Taking Jita offline would make it impossible for us to murder you all. We want to cause as much misery and destruction as possible in Eve Online, not staring at the login screen. As for your second part there. CCP has allowed nodes to crash and degrade plenty of times. There's not a whole lot they can do about players going where they will without turning Eve into WoW. That's why they implemented TiDi, so that when players are doing things that hammer the hardware it doesn't take the game offline. Ahh, TiDi, it is going to be so much fun watching freighters pop in slow motion on the 28th.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.18 23:43:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote: Ahh, TiDi, it is going to be so much fun watching freighters pop in slow motion on the 28th.
CTRL-Click freighter victim, go make coffee, come back press F1, tab out and work on code for a half hour, tab back in watch first five minutes of freighter exploding, tab out more code, tab back in half hour later watch concord blap me, etc...
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
10
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:14:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Pohbis wrote: Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.
Eve-Online's pubbie population has proven time and time again that they're willing to go the extra mile when it comes to raging about goons. Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game. If it wasn't for the fact that half of EVE watched said Goon start the meta-mud-throwing by encouraging people to do things that would kinda ruin another players life out of game. I'd kinda care for your argument.
If the guy never considered that leading a bunch of teenagers and adult internet spaceship captains GÇô in a game that promotes what EVE promotes GÇô would turn on him when behaving like he did. Then I think whatever college he graduated from owes him some tuition fees back.
Maybe now we can go back to the topic. A bunch of EVE players playing EVE how they want. Who cares what their real life motives are.
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
302
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:23:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote: Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.
Now how would they have come up with such an idea.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:25:00 -
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Pohbis wrote: If the guy never considered that leading a bunch of teenagers and adult internet spaceship captains GÇô in a game that promotes what EVE promotes GÇô would turn on him when behaving like he did. Then I think whatever college he graduated from owes him some tuition fees back.
Pubbies have been crapping on goons harder than any other group of players, aside from Russians, far longer than that instance of Mitten's drunken assholery. Calls to mass ban us over trivial nonsense have been going on for over four years now.
But I agree let's get this topic back on track. Predicting a typical CCP-like unexpected bug in TiDi allows us to blap and ISD member's Polaris frigate resulting in the GMs reacting in a completely over the top manner. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
216
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:27:00 -
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Pohbis wrote:Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.
Burn Jita was originally going to happen to celebrate Mittani getting >10000 votes for CSM. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:27:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote: Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.
Now how would they have come up with such an idea.
I know right? Most of the player's in this game can barely even figure out the correct usage of punctuation. How one of them managed to find the phone number of a certain goon's ex-employer and call them up to crap on him is beyond me. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
326
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Posted - 2012.04.19 00:46:00 -
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No one will save you.
No angels will come down from on high and hold your hand.
No god will strike down your enemies.
You want to be saved? Then save yourselves. |
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