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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:49:20
(Convinced no one will do it and it wouldnt work to well so its a void idea now)
*delete thread if you want mods  *
Hey I am a traveler in EvE and a refiner my names Shade
Anyways getting past the easy stuff I have a cool idea for pirates. You know how you usually if you do at all ask for 30 mill or somewhere in that zone for tolls? Well sorry to break it to you but some people cant afford that and some would rather die. 
I have always really thought about it and said to my self. Why dont you guys maintain a strong point at a gate but instead of charging 10-40 mill charge like 200-300k regardless of the persons ship size.
Now I already know the questions going through your mind (why?) Why sacrifice a 29 mill profit to let some dumb moron through for just 200k or a bit more? Heres why!
1.Well for one people would pay your toll much much more often. Instead of trying ways out theyd figure its just worth paying it.
2.If you have a reasonable toll people wouldnt mind going through your area again.
3.If you keep to your word and let them pass for the price people will see your system as a pratical gateway into others for a low toll price.
4.If people see your area as a remotely cheap toll to important areas you could become a major toll booth.
Sure it could be hard to set such a system up but with a good warp disrupter and a couple of you expert pvp pirates (not all of you)  I think it could really work out.
I say this because I think pirates could make a good hobby out of it instead of just snocking people off. After all even I would pay the toll 
So common whaddya say be pirates that desire some Money 
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:49:20
(Convinced no one will do it and it wouldnt work to well so its a void idea now)
*delete thread if you want mods *
Hey I am a traveler in EvE and a refiner my names Shade
Anyways getting past the easy stuff I have a cool idea for pirates. You know how you usually if you do at all ask for 30 mill or somewhere in that zone for tolls? Well sorry to break it to you but some people cant afford that and some would rather die.
I have always really thought about it and said to my self. Why dont you guys maintain a strong point at a gate but instead of charging 10-40 mill charge like 200-300k regardless of the persons ship size.
Now I already know the questions going through your mind (why?) Why sacrifice a 29 mill profit to let some dumb moron through for just 200k or a bit more? Heres why!
1.Well for one people would pay your toll much much more often. Instead of trying ways out theyd figure its just worth paying it.
2.If you have a reasonable toll people wouldnt mind going through your area again.
3.If you keep to your word and let them pass for the price people will see your system as a pratical gateway into others for a low toll price.
4.If people see your area as a remotely cheap toll to important areas you could become a major toll booth.
Sure it could be hard to set such a system up but with a good warp disrupter and a couple of you expert pvp pirates (not all of you) I think it could really work out.
I say this because I think pirates could make a good hobby out of it instead of just snocking people off. After all even I would pay the toll
So common whaddya say be pirates that desire some Money
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:13:00 -
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This could get interesting...
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:13:00 -
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This could get interesting...
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:14:00 -
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i think ur about to get flamed to high heaven
Forums: Sharks - MC |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:14:00 -
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i think ur about to get flamed to high heaven
Forums: Sharks - MC |
Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:16:06
If you mean by flames possibly but I think its a good idea 
Its ok once a post starts with Your stupid you know not to read it
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:16:06
If you mean by flames possibly but I think its a good idea
Its ok once a post starts with Your stupid you know not to read it
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:17:00 -
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Pretty good idea
But maybe charge a million per pass and make up in volume what you would lose in logoff attempts
Has alot of potential and also would lower the pirates bad name as actual fair businessmen and women
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:17:00 -
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Pretty good idea
But maybe charge a million per pass and make up in volume what you would lose in logoff attempts
Has alot of potential and also would lower the pirates bad name as actual fair businessmen and women
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:21:00 -
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nah dont think it would work since 300k is nothing you'd make more money in an hour mining veldspar in your bs.
if someone asked me for a 300k toll id probibly laugh befor opening loose with my ravens siege launchers mind you it could be a good tactic to shock your opponents befor laying them to waste 
Death to the Galante |
Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:21:00 -
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nah dont think it would work since 300k is nothing you'd make more money in an hour mining veldspar in your bs.
if someone asked me for a 300k toll id probibly laugh befor opening loose with my ravens siege launchers mind you it could be a good tactic to shock your opponents befor laying them to waste
Death to the Galante |
Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:25:03
I suppose but even if they did charge a million alot of people that dont feel like fighting a fight they probally couldnt win could pay that much cheaper toll easily and wouldnt mind paying it again. If people saw it as an easy way to go through for a cheap toll its possible they choose to go through again 
Personally I wouldnt mind paying a cheap toll for safe passage through a pirate owned system.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:25:03
I suppose but even if they did charge a million alot of people that dont feel like fighting a fight they probally couldnt win could pay that much cheaper toll easily and wouldnt mind paying it again. If people saw it as an easy way to go through for a cheap toll its possible they choose to go through again
Personally I wouldnt mind paying a cheap toll for safe passage through a pirate owned system.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:27:00 -
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Rats move around, they avoid staying in one system, at one gate for too long..
its too easy for a group of PVPers to come along and kill them...
Also, by showing themselves at a gate for too long, u dont need to be a rocket scientist to work out ECM tactics against them:)...
i could prob name another 100 reasons why this is a bad idea for rats, but i wont.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:27:00 -
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Rats move around, they avoid staying in one system, at one gate for too long..
its too easy for a group of PVPers to come along and kill them...
Also, by showing themselves at a gate for too long, u dont need to be a rocket scientist to work out ECM tactics against them:)...
i could prob name another 100 reasons why this is a bad idea for rats, but i wont.
d solo.
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:28:00 -
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Thing is Shade as long as people pay 30 mil we'll keep asking for it.
If you don't pay you get podded... why complicate things...
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:28:00 -
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Thing is Shade as long as people pay 30 mil we'll keep asking for it.
If you don't pay you get podded... why complicate things...
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:31:40
Well I guess you guys are right
I still like my idea a bit though 
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:31:40
Well I guess you guys are right
I still like my idea a bit though
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:42:00 -
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We charge 30mil when we have a pod scrambled because most ppl flying through our space have implants and they would much prefer paying 30mil than the 100mil to replace all implants at current market costs. And no matter how many ppl on these forums say "I never pay ransomes" its not true, on a good day we can make 120mil an hour ransoming peoples pods and it doesnt take much to do it, one ceptor and a bs or two does the job just nicely. 
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Nigel
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:42:00 -
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We charge 30mil when we have a pod scrambled because most ppl flying through our space have implants and they would much prefer paying 30mil than the 100mil to replace all implants at current market costs. And no matter how many ppl on these forums say "I never pay ransomes" its not true, on a good day we can make 120mil an hour ransoming peoples pods and it doesnt take much to do it, one ceptor and a bs or two does the job just nicely.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Shade Widow
I have always really thought about it and said to my self. Why dont you guys maintain a strong point at a gate but instead of charging 10-40 mill charge like 200-300k regardless of the persons ship size.
200-300k is nothing, do you have any idea how much ammo costs? 
If a Battleship pirate doesnt wanna pay 30 mill then hell lose 100 mill in the form of his ship.
If hes got 100% insurance and no implants then hes lucky.
Originally by: Shade Widow
Now I already know the questions going through your mind (why?) Why sacrifice a 29 mill profit to let some dumb moron through for just 200k or a bit more? Heres why!
Heres why: Blowing up some guys battleship and his pod is more fun then making 200k. Hell, sicking Veldspar for 20 mins will give you the same amount of money.
Originally by: Shade Widow
1.Well for one people would pay your toll much much more often. Instead of trying ways out theyd figure its just worth paying it.
Prices go per ship most of the time, a 100mill BS gets to pay 30 mill or die.
Basicly 1rd of a ships cost is a good guideline. Hell, it beats buying a new ship
Originally by: Shade Widow
2.If you have a reasonable toll people wouldnt mind going through your area again.
You can only take a few people hostage a day, this crime timer screws up things even further. Asking for 200k really doesnt allow any money to be made.
Originally by: Shade Widow
4.If people see your area as a remotely cheap toll to important areas you could become a major toll booth.
And youd make a grand wooping million a day...
Originally by: Shade Widow
Sure it could be hard to set such a system up but with a good warp disrupter and a couple of you expert pvp pirates (not all of you) I think it could really work out.
You cant put up Warp Ruptors in Empire space, also putting them in 0.0 belts is pointless. They need to be placed at gates. A lot of pirates work alone as well.
Originally by: Shade Widow
I say this because I think pirates could make a good hobby out of it instead of just snocking people off. After all even I would pay the toll
So common whaddya say be pirates that desire some Money
I believe your your post will show pirates the light, they will stop randomly ganking people and let everyone pass trough their sys for only 200k.
Then they to can buy a new battleship after playing for +/- 500 days...
Asking people for high prices and popping the 9 out of 10 that wont pay is more effecient...
10x200.000 = 2.000.000
1x2.5 + 3 corpses = 2.500.000 mill and a smile
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Widow
I have always really thought about it and said to my self. Why dont you guys maintain a strong point at a gate but instead of charging 10-40 mill charge like 200-300k regardless of the persons ship size.
200-300k is nothing, do you have any idea how much ammo costs?
If a Battleship pirate doesnt wanna pay 30 mill then hell lose 100 mill in the form of his ship.
If hes got 100% insurance and no implants then hes lucky.
Originally by: Shade Widow
Now I already know the questions going through your mind (why?) Why sacrifice a 29 mill profit to let some dumb moron through for just 200k or a bit more? Heres why!
Heres why: Blowing up some guys battleship and his pod is more fun then making 200k. Hell, sicking Veldspar for 20 mins will give you the same amount of money.
Originally by: Shade Widow
1.Well for one people would pay your toll much much more often. Instead of trying ways out theyd figure its just worth paying it.
Prices go per ship most of the time, a 100mill BS gets to pay 30 mill or die.
Basicly 1rd of a ships cost is a good guideline. Hell, it beats buying a new ship
Originally by: Shade Widow
2.If you have a reasonable toll people wouldnt mind going through your area again.
You can only take a few people hostage a day, this crime timer screws up things even further. Asking for 200k really doesnt allow any money to be made.
Originally by: Shade Widow
4.If people see your area as a remotely cheap toll to important areas you could become a major toll booth.
And youd make a grand wooping million a day...
Originally by: Shade Widow
Sure it could be hard to set such a system up but with a good warp disrupter and a couple of you expert pvp pirates (not all of you) I think it could really work out.
You cant put up Warp Ruptors in Empire space, also putting them in 0.0 belts is pointless. They need to be placed at gates. A lot of pirates work alone as well.
Originally by: Shade Widow
I say this because I think pirates could make a good hobby out of it instead of just snocking people off. After all even I would pay the toll
So common whaddya say be pirates that desire some Money
I believe your your post will show pirates the light, they will stop randomly ganking people and let everyone pass trough their sys for only 200k.
Then they to can buy a new battleship after playing for +/- 500 days...
Asking people for high prices and popping the 9 out of 10 that wont pay is more effecient...
10x200.000 = 2.000.000
1x2.5 + 3 corpses = 2.500.000 mill and a smile
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Thurket
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Widow
Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:31:40
Well I guess you guys are right
I still like my idea a bit though
I like it but pirates are too greedy for their own good. Did i say pirates? well some deserv the tiltle others dont, just plain terrorist(aka griefers).
its good to see ppl that accually think, i like the idea and if i was a pirate i would glady atleast try it out before judging it. But who can blame the pirates not wanting to try it, they dont have the capacity to try new things out.
Keep it up m8, maybe some take it in and try or even adapting it. |
Thurket
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Widow
Edited by: Shade Widow on 29/07/2004 14:31:40
Well I guess you guys are right
I still like my idea a bit though
I like it but pirates are too greedy for their own good. Did i say pirates? well some deserv the tiltle others dont, just plain terrorist(aka griefers).
its good to see ppl that accually think, i like the idea and if i was a pirate i would glady atleast try it out before judging it. But who can blame the pirates not wanting to try it, they dont have the capacity to try new things out.
Keep it up m8, maybe some take it in and try or even adapting it. |
Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:46:00 -
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Fine fine bad idea forget it
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:46:00 -
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Fine fine bad idea forget it
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:59:00 -
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hehe well at least you tried, dont let it discourage you.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.07.29 14:59:00 -
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hehe well at least you tried, dont let it discourage you.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
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