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Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
What do you think about this option?
Character progress will be faster. It will reduce time of characters standing in "spot." One more ISK drain. Overall faster ability to access and enjoy EvE parts which person prefer.
To elaborate this idea: Your character would be able to finish training of skills instantly. For a cost. One example: Engineering (rank 1) have 256000SP so (this is just a proposal) fee will be 10ISK per SP. So from Engineering 0 to 5 would cost your character 2560000 ISK. Cruisers (rank5) have 1280000SP because its rank 5 it will cost 5X more per SP so price to train it from 0 to 5 would be 50x 1280000 = 64000000 ISK
Access to this feature could be added via agents. To use this feature will not require any standing. But with perfect standing, fee could be 10% lower.
I granted myself freedom to give answers on some questions which I presume would be of interest to you.
Will this feature be unfair to old characters? Not at all. Yours old characters would have same advantage as new, and upper hand. You already saved billions, by training them in standard way.
How will this affect character market? Probably it will make this option redundant.
And GTC market? More people would start to sell them, so your ISK will start to worth a little more.
At the end I do believe that this option, will return to EvE those players who just get bored and quit (burned out) before they reach something that they want to do and fly. This will reduce waiting and those boring days and weeks. Granting all players faster access to desired gameplay style.
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:35:00 -
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Supporting this. |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:53:00 -
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Not supported; breaks a fundamental. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Haakelen
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:01:00 -
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Not supported, fundamentally opposite to the Eve approach to things. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:14:00 -
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Firstly, not supported.
[troll]Secondly, something like this might actually work as long as it's "balanced". Let's say you put your character into intensive training that reduces the time it takes to train an idea by a certain percentage. This costs isk and begins by talking to an agent in your starting school station. Once started, your character cannot leave the station until the skill training is complete or cancelled and if cancelled, the skillpoints you gained will decay at half your normal training speed for that skill meaning it must immediately be started to train normally, which will then train at half speed.
Great if you plan on training straight into capitals, not so good if you plan to actually play the game.[/troll] |
Avalon Champion
Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:22:00 -
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This is so wrong, and the conculsions are so flawed, that its unsupportable.
Players leave eve for a multitude of reasons, they get bored with the mission grind, 0.0 fleet lag, have R/L issues, buying SP's will not get those back.
Cruiser 5 is about a 32 day skill (depending on Attribs) if you cant wait that maybe you should ask is this game right for you?
The basic premis of this proposal appears to be : I want an uber Char without working for it. Well Bo-****ing-ho, if you dont want to put the time into developing your toon cancel your account, and contract your stuff to Eve-uni.
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:33:00 -
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Character Bazaar is that V way. It's the existing official way to get skillpoints for isk, why do you need another, crappy system?
_____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Caassimolar
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:09:00 -
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supported!
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ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:10:00 -
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Totaly 100% !!!NOT!!! supported
this is totaly against what Eve is about and gives way more of an advantage to much older and lifeless players
Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected]) |
gpfault
Haunted House
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:14:00 -
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*looks at thread title*
This idea is stupid and you should feel stupid for suggesting it.
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Chandra Valore
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Chandra Valore on 23/01/2009 15:38:52 *wrong char* |
Khalyn Ansed
Minmatar United Freedom Front The 11th Hour
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:42:00 -
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please excuse the expletives...
ARE YOU FECKING INSANE!!!??
this would undermine the entire point of skill training... this would allow some one with Billions of ISK to; 1, create a new char 2, pay for 60day time code 3, spend ISK in the char to get them to a "Sellable" level 4, sell the char for more isk than the outlay...
this would also open a hole for people to start selling more chars for RL cash..... |
Efrim Black
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
What do you think about this option?
I think you're either an idiot, in the Greek sense. Or a Troll.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:23:00 -
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Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY |
Pavlinka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:56:00 -
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try other games ... /not signed
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JAFM
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Posted - 2009.01.23 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Khalyn Ansed please excuse the expletives...
ARE YOU FECKING INSANE!!!??
this would undermine the entire point of skill training... this would allow some one with Billions of ISK to; 1, create a new char 2, pay for 60day time code 3, spend ISK in the char to get them to a "Sellable" level 4, sell the char for more isk than the outlay...
this would also open a hole for people to start selling more chars for RL cash.....
QFT
So HELLZ no!
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Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:11:00 -
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This is the highest level of ******ed I've seen in a while.
No no no no. |
Foulque
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Posted - 2009.01.24 01:55:00 -
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Bad Idea. Even if not your prices are ridiculously cheap. |
FunzzeR
Counter Errorist Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.24 02:56:00 -
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Rubbish idea, in fact this one beats out all the other terrible ideas.
The above posters sum up why its a terrible idea.
'Nuff said.
No... |
ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 03:24:00 -
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No.
This would destroy eve. |
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ToTheCore
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.24 04:08:00 -
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I wonder what the OP was smoking when he came up with this thread... ---
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Th0rG0d
Caldari Pilots From Honour Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.24 04:26:00 -
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Considering that it costs millions for a meager +3 implant to maybe shave off a few hours of training, your math is WAY OFF!!
Seriously, no.......... Eve is about patience, frustration, and maybe even a reward at the end for it. If you can't deal with that, find a new game
/unsupported
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.24 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
Now, now. Even in WoW you still have to play the game to get your skills up. I'd be hard pressed to think of a game not coded in Flash that uses the mechanic he proposes. |
Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:12:00 -
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I so dont support this |
eliminator2
Gallente Young Enterprise Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:23:00 -
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not support as GTC buyers that start within a few days can reach high end SP that took most people years to get to |
Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: ViolenTUK No.
This would destroy eve.
Would you elaborate? Oh mighty doomsayer!
Originally by: Efrim Black
Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
I think you're either an idiot, in the Greek sense. Or a Troll.
You should read my question again. I didn`t asked what do you think about me, but what do you think about idea. And because your opinion about me is not relevant to myself or to others, you really should restrain yourself from insults and trolling.
Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Not supported; breaks a fundamental.
Fundamental...what? Gameplay I presume?
As someone, actually few of you stated there are thing called character bazaar which is nothing else then converting RL money to ISK and then to characters. Sadly some players, can`t survive in economy of EvE so training of characters and selling them, is only way in which they can survive. And I do understand yours fears that it will ruin only way that most of you can earn ISK in EvE.
Simply basic of this system, is not my proposal of price ISK per SP (which was example), or anything other but implementing system in game which already exist via character selling.
Over & Out.
I consulted moralists to learn how to appear philosophers to find out what to think and novelists to see what I could get away with and in the end it all came down to one principle:win or die. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:13:00 -
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No.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 24/01/2009 11:06:03
Originally by: ViolenTUK No.
This would destroy eve.
Would you elaborate? Oh mighty doomsayer!
Because your proposal would let anyone who cared to buy a 60-day GTC card have 65M SP, you maniac.
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Haldane IV
Einstein's Dreams
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:28:00 -
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Not supported. The idea is in fndamental conflict with the EVE ethos. |
Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
QFVBT |
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