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Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
What do you think about this option?
Character progress will be faster. It will reduce time of characters standing in "spot." One more ISK drain. Overall faster ability to access and enjoy EvE parts which person prefer.
To elaborate this idea: Your character would be able to finish training of skills instantly. For a cost. One example: Engineering (rank 1) have 256000SP so (this is just a proposal) fee will be 10ISK per SP. So from Engineering 0 to 5 would cost your character 2560000 ISK. Cruisers (rank5) have 1280000SP because its rank 5 it will cost 5X more per SP so price to train it from 0 to 5 would be 50x 1280000 = 64000000 ISK
Access to this feature could be added via agents. To use this feature will not require any standing. But with perfect standing, fee could be 10% lower.
I granted myself freedom to give answers on some questions which I presume would be of interest to you.
Will this feature be unfair to old characters? Not at all. Yours old characters would have same advantage as new, and upper hand. You already saved billions, by training them in standard way.
How will this affect character market? Probably it will make this option redundant.
And GTC market? More people would start to sell them, so your ISK will start to worth a little more.
At the end I do believe that this option, will return to EvE those players who just get bored and quit (burned out) before they reach something that they want to do and fly. This will reduce waiting and those boring days and weeks. Granting all players faster access to desired gameplay style.
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:35:00 -
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Supporting this. |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:53:00 -
[3]
Not supported; breaks a fundamental. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Haakelen
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:01:00 -
[4]
Not supported, fundamentally opposite to the Eve approach to things. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:14:00 -
[5]
Firstly, not supported.
[troll]Secondly, something like this might actually work as long as it's "balanced". Let's say you put your character into intensive training that reduces the time it takes to train an idea by a certain percentage. This costs isk and begins by talking to an agent in your starting school station. Once started, your character cannot leave the station until the skill training is complete or cancelled and if cancelled, the skillpoints you gained will decay at half your normal training speed for that skill meaning it must immediately be started to train normally, which will then train at half speed.
Great if you plan on training straight into capitals, not so good if you plan to actually play the game.[/troll] |
Avalon Champion
Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:22:00 -
[6]
This is so wrong, and the conculsions are so flawed, that its unsupportable.
Players leave eve for a multitude of reasons, they get bored with the mission grind, 0.0 fleet lag, have R/L issues, buying SP's will not get those back.
Cruiser 5 is about a 32 day skill (depending on Attribs) if you cant wait that maybe you should ask is this game right for you?
The basic premis of this proposal appears to be : I want an uber Char without working for it. Well Bo-****ing-ho, if you dont want to put the time into developing your toon cancel your account, and contract your stuff to Eve-uni.
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.23 14:33:00 -
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Character Bazaar is that V way. It's the existing official way to get skillpoints for isk, why do you need another, crappy system?
_____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Caassimolar
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:09:00 -
[8]
supported!
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ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:10:00 -
[9]
Totaly 100% !!!NOT!!! supported
this is totaly against what Eve is about and gives way more of an advantage to much older and lifeless players
Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected]) |
gpfault
Haunted House
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:14:00 -
[10]
*looks at thread title*
This idea is stupid and you should feel stupid for suggesting it.
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Chandra Valore
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:39:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Chandra Valore on 23/01/2009 15:38:52 *wrong char* |
Khalyn Ansed
Minmatar United Freedom Front The 11th Hour
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:42:00 -
[12]
please excuse the expletives...
ARE YOU FECKING INSANE!!!??
this would undermine the entire point of skill training... this would allow some one with Billions of ISK to; 1, create a new char 2, pay for 60day time code 3, spend ISK in the char to get them to a "Sellable" level 4, sell the char for more isk than the outlay...
this would also open a hole for people to start selling more chars for RL cash..... |
Efrim Black
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:17:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
What do you think about this option?
I think you're either an idiot, in the Greek sense. Or a Troll.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:23:00 -
[14]
Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY |
Pavlinka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:56:00 -
[15]
try other games ... /not signed
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JAFM
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Posted - 2009.01.23 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Khalyn Ansed please excuse the expletives...
ARE YOU FECKING INSANE!!!??
this would undermine the entire point of skill training... this would allow some one with Billions of ISK to; 1, create a new char 2, pay for 60day time code 3, spend ISK in the char to get them to a "Sellable" level 4, sell the char for more isk than the outlay...
this would also open a hole for people to start selling more chars for RL cash.....
QFT
So HELLZ no!
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Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:11:00 -
[17]
This is the highest level of ******ed I've seen in a while.
No no no no. |
Foulque
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Posted - 2009.01.24 01:55:00 -
[18]
Bad Idea. Even if not your prices are ridiculously cheap. |
FunzzeR
Counter Errorist Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.24 02:56:00 -
[19]
Rubbish idea, in fact this one beats out all the other terrible ideas.
The above posters sum up why its a terrible idea.
'Nuff said.
No... |
ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 03:24:00 -
[20]
No.
This would destroy eve. |
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ToTheCore
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.24 04:08:00 -
[21]
I wonder what the OP was smoking when he came up with this thread... ---
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Th0rG0d
Caldari Pilots From Honour Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.24 04:26:00 -
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Considering that it costs millions for a meager +3 implant to maybe shave off a few hours of training, your math is WAY OFF!!
Seriously, no.......... Eve is about patience, frustration, and maybe even a reward at the end for it. If you can't deal with that, find a new game
/unsupported
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.24 05:13:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
Now, now. Even in WoW you still have to play the game to get your skills up. I'd be hard pressed to think of a game not coded in Flash that uses the mechanic he proposes. |
Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:12:00 -
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I so dont support this |
eliminator2
Gallente Young Enterprise Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:23:00 -
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not support as GTC buyers that start within a few days can reach high end SP that took most people years to get to |
Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.24 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: ViolenTUK No.
This would destroy eve.
Would you elaborate? Oh mighty doomsayer!
Originally by: Efrim Black
Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 23/01/2009 13:21:01
I think you're either an idiot, in the Greek sense. Or a Troll.
You should read my question again. I didn`t asked what do you think about me, but what do you think about idea. And because your opinion about me is not relevant to myself or to others, you really should restrain yourself from insults and trolling.
Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Not supported; breaks a fundamental.
Fundamental...what? Gameplay I presume?
As someone, actually few of you stated there are thing called character bazaar which is nothing else then converting RL money to ISK and then to characters. Sadly some players, can`t survive in economy of EvE so training of characters and selling them, is only way in which they can survive. And I do understand yours fears that it will ruin only way that most of you can earn ISK in EvE.
Simply basic of this system, is not my proposal of price ISK per SP (which was example), or anything other but implementing system in game which already exist via character selling.
Over & Out.
I consulted moralists to learn how to appear philosophers to find out what to think and novelists to see what I could get away with and in the end it all came down to one principle:win or die. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:13:00 -
[27]
No.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:16:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Kaya Divine Edited by: Kaya Divine on 24/01/2009 11:06:03
Originally by: ViolenTUK No.
This would destroy eve.
Would you elaborate? Oh mighty doomsayer!
Because your proposal would let anyone who cared to buy a 60-day GTC card have 65M SP, you maniac.
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Haldane IV
Einstein's Dreams
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:28:00 -
[29]
Not supported. The idea is in fndamental conflict with the EVE ethos. |
Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:35:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
QFVBT |
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:37:00 -
[31]
lol no.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.24 17:02:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
Now, now. Even in WoW you still have to play the game to get your skills up. I'd be hard pressed to think of a game not coded in Flash that uses the mechanic he proposes.
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Herschel I Really needed that! Your the man of the day! Nice one!
Well Said! =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com =============== |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.24 17:24:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Drake Draconis Yes... lets give Macro Miners more power to Macro Mine to hell and back....
IDIOT!
GTFO!
WOW is THAT WAY
Now, now. Even in WoW you still have to play the game to get your skills up. I'd be hard pressed to think of a game not coded in Flash that uses the mechanic he proposes.
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Herschel I Really needed that! Your the man of the day! Nice one!
Well Said!
Now that my ego has been sufficiently stroked for today (), can we stop bumping this? |
Zaran Darkstar
Divine Slaves
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Posted - 2009.01.24 17:47:00 -
[34]
NO |
Jin Labarre
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Posted - 2009.01.25 00:37:00 -
[35]
Skills take time. Nothing else.
If you want to invest money into skill training, buy +5 implants. If you already got +5 implants, you have much more money than me and don't deserve my compassion.
Short: HELL NO!
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Semper Spero
IMR Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.25 05:12:00 -
[36]
This suggestion is so wrong for so many reasons... it is so wrong!
NOT SUPPORTED! |
Zurin Arctus
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Posted - 2009.01.25 06:17:00 -
[37]
NO, NO, NO, NO.
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Cindy McCain
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.25 07:42:00 -
[38]
Ah ha ha ha ha ha
No. |
Hairy Pants
Caldari The Incorporated Slavs White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.01.25 07:48:00 -
[39]
Nej. None. HET. No.
Any rich enough will get a large amount of SPs without waiting as we waited.
I will not play in EVE with la2-style character progress. |
acwdc78
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:34:00 -
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i think this idea as any idea deserves to be thought out. wondering why so many ppl were so berserk in their replies lol anyway, if u have mor money or luck u can have better things and tats how things actually work in real life; besides, to pay for the skills then u either would have had to buy isks or do something to get those isks (mine, missions, etc) its not a bad idea and i might support it, cause generally i favor more options and freedom (so there should be option to spend time training, buy the skill level, or work on the skill to level it [every ore u mine would give u more mining skill points)
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Rutger Centemus
Joint Empire Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:09:00 -
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1) no 2) I mean it, really, don't 3) in fact, this already exists in some form: buy GTC's -> sell GTC's for ISK -> buy character in the character bazaar, here 4) in closing: NO |
destinationZERO
Minmatar Pain Management Services
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:35:00 -
[42]
That's one of the stupidest ideas here so far. +rep for the OP. |
Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.01.26 12:55:00 -
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To buy all skills, 24b, to get them all to lvl 5 another 4.5b.
This is wrong in every way possible.
NOT supported.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 13:39:00 -
[44]
F*CK. NO. ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |
aska101
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: aska101 on 26/01/2009 14:06:59 1 000 000 isk per 1 sp and ok
no. |
Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:50:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana To buy all skills, 24b, to get them all to lvl 5 another 4.5b.
This is wrong in every way possible.
NOT supported.
Math in first post was example. 450b for all skills at least for me seems balanced...what do you think?
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Hairy Pants
Caldari The Incorporated Slavs White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 15:33:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Kaya Divine
Originally by: Mashie Saldana To buy all skills, 24b, to get them all to lvl 5 another 4.5b.
This is wrong in every way possible.
NOT supported.
Math in first post was example. 450b for all skills at least for me seems balanced...what do you think?
Just count 'em in USD or other equivalent and think who will be at top of the list without any PERSONAL achievement. A little dumb without any knowledge about the skills he bought.
If you'll buy a character you'll reward a man who used skillbooks properly and were patient enough to learn 'em. But if you'll buy SPs for real/ISKs, the only winner is CCP. It'll decoy their moral and EVE will become a game of thick wallets.
SP must be learned, but not earned. Dixi, mlya. |
Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:52:00 -
[48]
OP replaces my "Most stupid EVE-O post" bookmark ... |
Galia Bonaventure
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Posted - 2009.01.27 02:55:00 -
[49]
Firstly, not supported in current incarnation.
Only way I would support something of this nature (accelerated SP at a cost) would be through temporary + Attribute boosters, which was something CCP considered long ago but decided not to implement. |
Convulge
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Posted - 2009.01.27 11:37:00 -
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Perhaps if you had a trainable implant? Say a hardwiring that could be programmed to give a specific skill? Each skill costing a varied isk lvl?
Atm you have 1% 3% 5% hardwirings. Perhaps you could augment a chosen skill, a bit like putting a script in. That way you could buy a particular skill but it would be limited to one clone and one skill only. The purpose is accelerated use of a ship/modules whatever but doesnt actually unbalance the current setup?
Just an idea.
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Guterro d'Tefiane
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 13:15:00 -
[51]
Don't think this is a good idea. You can buy characters with isk. |
Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 16:06:00 -
[52]
No, for the simple reasons: 1. One can not buy time 2. One can buy isk for real life money
************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Skyee Everson
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Posted - 2009.01.28 04:08:00 -
[53]
CCP's New Player Retention Plan:
1. Remove Skill Training 2. Give everyone perfect characters (+5 all around) 3. Give everyone Jovian battleships 4. ?????? 5. Profit
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Keiretsu Destroyer
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:14:00 -
[54]
If you want fast progress go this way. As for the idea: NO! |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Gallente Scorpion Road Industry
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:16:00 -
[55]
Oops... accidentally posted with my alt ^^ |
Shadar al'Thor
Gallente one world Corp Yarrbear Equity and Trade Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.28 23:01:00 -
[56]
this is just wrong |
Jack Light
legion syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.04 03:22:00 -
[57]
not a good idea
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Alex Kinley
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:29:00 -
[58]
NO |
Alexia Xias
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Posted - 2009.02.05 17:19:00 -
[59]
NOT supported, not in any way, shape or form. This would encourage ISK buying.
(Picture now with 100% more shameless blog plugging) |
Driemon Vilvarin
Gallente Corax. Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.02.06 00:36:00 -
[60]
NO.
Quote: Character progress will be faster.
Buy implants.
Quote: It will reduce time of characters standing in "spot."
Play the game.
Quote: One more ISK drain.
There is enough isk drains
Quote: Overall faster ability to access and enjoy EvE parts which person prefer.
How can you enjoy a game if you don't even know how to play it.
Quote: Will this feature be unfair to old characters?
Nope it will be unfair to all players as you gametime will determine you character progression.
Quote: How will this affect character market?
You dont need a character marked if the change is made, you need an isk market OOPS!!!
Quote: And GTC market? More people would start to sell them, so your ISK will start to worth a little more.
Rich in RL - uber in EVE, bad for gameplay m'kay.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari Fist of Eargon
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Posted - 2009.02.06 01:21:00 -
[61]
Eh...no. |
Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 02:16:00 -
[62]
im gonna say what 99% of eve will say
WoW------> |
Mytshoumi
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.02.06 04:14:00 -
[63]
VERY against idea... so if u are the head of an alliance like goons and aaa u are guarenteed uber toons that u can turn around and sell? Or isk sellers all of a sudden have more customers!
Too abusive... |
Lareon Denery
Los Chupacabras
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:47:00 -
[64]
Worst idea ever! xD
No wait, isn't the worst one... |
Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:34:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Naomi Knight on 06/02/2009 13:35:39 This is a super idea ,thats why there is only 3 supports for this and 2 are alts :)
oh and everything should cost 1 isk like in sisi and you start with all lvl5 skillz. that would be awesome...
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 14:38:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Naomi Knight Edited by: Naomi Knight on 06/02/2009 13:35:39 This is a super idea ,thats why there is only 3 supports for this and 2 are alts :)
oh and everything should cost 1 isk like in sisi and you start with all lvl5 skillz. that would be awesome...
armaggedon day was fun thou ;-p ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Quote:
They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.06 17:31:00 -
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I never really do this...but I can't hold myself in this case, you'll have to excuse me.
You freaking r*tard. The heck were you thinking with this? I've never in my entire time in EVE heard something so stupid as this. It would only cause the game to turn into one massive ISK-grinding fest and people would stop doing ANYTHING but grinding isk in order to become better faster. Sheesh. |
Rekatan
Caldari Radioactive Battle Bunnies
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Posted - 2009.02.06 23:38:00 -
[68]
||UNSUPPORTED||
I only had to briefly scim over to know I would never support this. It doesn't matter how costly it is, how much of a currency sink it is, it doesn't matter if you have to complete a 100 hour mission to unlock or anything else to make it difficult or content rich.
This is 100% against what eve has been from the beginning. We play one of the few games where patience and determination are rewarded, this will break that entirely. The only thing that making that feature expensive will do, is make the rich/friends of the rich all that more powerful than they already are.
On that note, I also 100% do not support any sort of "SP Liquidity" Once your SP are spent, they're spent, reskilling is for WoW.
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Kalia Masaer
Rosa Castellum
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:41:00 -
[69]
Bad Idea. |
Brick Hampton
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Posted - 2009.02.07 10:40:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Brick Hampton on 07/02/2009 10:40:42 Rich players get rich faster. New players learn Frig IV a bit faster.
Rich player gives alt 1bil, Alt trains for RnD agents and uses money he earns to maximize him self, Rich player now has two awesome chars and uses them to make 4 awesome chars, and so on. Broke eve. |
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xVx dreadnaught
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Posted - 2009.02.07 10:52:00 -
[71]
way OP!
I'd agree to pay isk for accelled SP gain (So that the rich cant make cap pilot accounts in aday) say for instance a -15% duration on skills for 100mill per 30 days. Again would be a nice Isk sink and limit people from ubering up so fast! Or you could have it split up slightly like 20mill gets you 3%, 40mill gets 6% and so on.
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Miner Nine
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.07 11:09:00 -
[72]
Since CCP threw out ghost training cause they want money. Might as well just throw money at them to get a few months of training done so I don't have to be bored and drunk as much.
If CCP does this change, they could help stop my liver disease.
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xVx dreadnaught
Caldari Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.07 13:54:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Miner Nine Since CCP threw out ghost training cause they want money. Might as well just throw money at them to get a few months of training done so I don't have to be bored and drunk as much.
If CCP does this change, they could help stop my liver disease.
It would just increase the gap between the uber and the newbies even more... unless there was a restriction on how much SP you could buy per month...
***Something Elite Written here*** |
De'Veldrin
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Posted - 2009.02.07 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Miner Nine Since CCP threw out ghost training cause they want money. Might as well just throw money at them to get a few months of training done so I don't have to be bored and drunk as much.
If CCP does this change, they could help stop my liver disease.
So would putting down the bottle once in a while. But that's a personal problem, and not worth breaking the game over.
No matter how much you make this cost, no matter how much you trim it down, no matter how low you make the acceleration rates, this will kill Eve. The alts that have been in game for years will suddenly have six or seven alts with nothing but level 5 skills. Sell those for ISK, wash, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon everyone in the game will have all level 5 skills, and at the point, why play?
Emphatically, unquestionably, NOT SUPPORTED
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Miner Nine
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.07 21:11:00 -
[75]
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Miner Nine Since CCP threw out ghost training cause they want money. Might as well just throw money at them to get a few months of training done so I don't have to be bored and drunk as much.
If CCP does this change, they could help stop my liver disease.
So would putting down the bottle once in a while. But that's a personal problem, and not worth breaking the game over.
No matter how much you make this cost, no matter how much you trim it down, no matter how low you make the acceleration rates, this will kill Eve. The alts that have been in game for years will suddenly have six or seven alts with nothing but level 5 skills. Sell those for ISK, wash, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon everyone in the game will have all level 5 skills, and at the point, why play?
Emphatically, unquestionably, NOT SUPPORTED
Look at how dumb you are.
Right now you're already paying for the skills, just right now you have to be there to click the stuff.
The gap between new players and old players is very extreme, in all honestly I think they need to make it so clones could only hold up to 40mil skill points. That would be a better solution, but this would anger to many people. Letting people buy up to say the 20mil skill point mark wouldn't be that big of a deal and forcing them to watch their skills slowly train after that.
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Lily Mesch
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Posted - 2009.02.07 21:54:00 -
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Seems to be a resounding "NO"
And I agree, this will destroy EVE.
People who have been with the game for years have earned their place to fly the bigger ships. People who can't better start training and stop complaining that it will take them too long.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente Terminal Velocity Inc. Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.08 05:00:00 -
[77]
Not Gonna Happen. some people in this game have infinite amount of isk and nothing to spend it on, if they can buy skill points, thats just lol stupid. .
I see their pain, on some level i even understand their pain... i just can't feel their pain. |
Crying Neemen
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:31:00 -
[78]
Originally by: ToTheCore I wonder what the OP was smoking when he came up with this thread...
I know what I'm smoking and this idea is still stupid |
Efrim Black
Gallente Apellon
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:45:00 -
[79]
While this is still on the main page, I would urge the 99% of people who have opposed this idea to stop bumping it. It's taking up a slot on the front page just because it's so ridiculous that people keep replying.
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JAK480
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:16:00 -
[80]
Not supported!
Would prefer old player and people who buy ISK.
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Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
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Posted - 2009.02.09 12:57:00 -
[81]
NONONO no way real life money should impact on players more than it already does!!!
NOT SUPPORTED |
Gone'Postal
Aztec Industry
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:49:00 -
[82]
NOT SUPPORTED
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Saralle Zhukov
Minmatar Win Tech
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Posted - 2009.02.09 14:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: ToTheCore I wonder what the OP was smoking when he came up with this thread...
Just smoking? I think he was experimenting with better life through chemistry in a variety of ways.
NO!!!!! NOT SUPPORTED. Need a thumbs down for this one.
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Zsebbe Zseton
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Posted - 2009.02.12 13:43:00 -
[84]
NOT SUPPORTED.
However, I think it would be nice to build and use hardwirings for boosting different attributes that affect skill learning by 5-10-20%, and those hardirings should only last for a week (it can also be a skill how long they will last, say, lvl5 is a week as maximum). Building them can use the DNAs drop in missions.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.14 07:45:00 -
[85]
Isk is not xp points. Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) > soon(tm) \o/
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Ragnar Foulberg
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Posted - 2009.02.15 00:06:00 -
[86]
This is one proposal I cannot support. While I understand the idea behind it, this would fundamentally change the balance of the game. "Rich" corporations, macro miners, and people with lots of real world money would be able to simply mass produce experienced characters.
One of the things that make EVE so rewarding over the long run is sense of accomplishment after putting in the time and effort to train up advanced skills.
Negative on this idea.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2009.02.15 10:31:00 -
[87]
Where is the troll smiley? You'll have to settle for this;
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.15 11:26:00 -
[88]
WOW, this thread is epic simply because it's so terrible. OP must have been either REALLY high or REALLY REALLY stupid when he posted this, and as far as I'm aware stupidity isn't curable.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Virtuozzo
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.02.15 16:40:00 -
[89]
I so not support this. This is EVE, not hello kitty online for crying out loud.
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Martha Lightyear
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Posted - 2009.02.15 17:02:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Miner Nine
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Miner Nine Since CCP threw out ghost training cause they want money. Might as well just throw money at them to get a few months of training done so I don't have to be bored and drunk as much.
If CCP does this change, they could help stop my liver disease.
So would putting down the bottle once in a while. But that's a personal problem, and not worth breaking the game over.
No matter how much you make this cost, no matter how much you trim it down, no matter how low you make the acceleration rates, this will kill Eve. The alts that have been in game for years will suddenly have six or seven alts with nothing but level 5 skills. Sell those for ISK, wash, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon everyone in the game will have all level 5 skills, and at the point, why play?
Emphatically, unquestionably, NOT SUPPORTED
Look at how dumb you are.
Right now you're already paying for the skills, just right now you have to be there to click the stuff.
The gap between new players and old players is very extreme, in all honestly I think they need to make it so clones could only hold up to 40mil skill points. That would be a better solution, but this would anger to many people. Letting people buy up to say the 20mil skill point mark wouldn't be that big of a deal and forcing them to watch their skills slowly train after that.
QFF
quote for fail
you a macrominer? they are the bigger winner if this is applied
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Martha Lightyear
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Posted - 2009.02.15 17:57:00 -
[91]
maybe you want to create multiple accouts, buy the macromining basic skills set and drive a Hulk from your 1st day.
Yes, CCP will allow this stay tuned
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Eddy Goy
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Posted - 2009.02.16 02:16:00 -
[92]
Not sure, I think buying SP isn't the way forward as it goes against Eve game philosophy.
However I WOULD like to see better rewards from Agents, ie. a Reward of a certain amount of SP or a reward of a level up, up to a certain amount of points after completing some long mission series or something.
This would make missions all the more rewarding.
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.02.22 07:27:00 -
[93]
You're terrible, get out.
Stimulus |
Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.23 01:42:00 -
[94]
sure why not, make the game easier, no problem, makes it easier for killing you if you can get into bigger more expensive ships faster and you think you know what you are doing...
people think that if they have alot of isk or SP earlier on that the game will be easier for them... that if they had 20mil moar SP they wouldn't have gotten pwn'd, or probed out or lost their ratting raven to a quick gank squad.... anything to overtly make this game easier for the masses is really not in their best interest... the game is complicated, and you are going to spend alot of time failing in the first couple months before you get ur feet underneath you.
but if this combat simulator buisness is true, i feel like it will turn into WoW so why not use isk, people just don't get it
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Yaay
Reikoku KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.23 03:46:00 -
[95]
I feel like voting yes just to show my approval of this wonderful idea and the forum which which it was made possible. 3 chears for the epicness of this mans mind. And we are all smarter for having read this post.
It's the Economy Stupid |
Insa Rexion
Minmatar M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 08:17:00 -
[96]
no
well mannered a**h*** |
Insa Rexion
Minmatar M3T4LH34DZ
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Posted - 2009.02.23 08:18:00 -
[97]
no....just in case you missed it
well mannered a**h*** |
Jitabug
Caldari Viva POS Pinata
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Posted - 2009.02.23 12:47:00 -
[98]
As other people have already stated, you can buy skillpoints with isk/real cash already.
It's called the character bazaar. Stop by there sometime.
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Sar Ferredj
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.02.23 17:57:00 -
[99]
No. Never.
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Farrqua
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:06:00 -
[100]
This BAD idea has been hashed and rehashed. And again its a resounding "No, are you f**king stupid?"
Plus in a way we do pay for SP by purchasing implants. The more sp per hour the more you have to pay for the better implant.
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Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:35:00 -
[101]
Not supported, and you should be podded back to a pre-Alpha clone for suggesting it. One you can't buy your way out of.
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