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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.23 22:01:00 -
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A pet is someone who does what you tell them. An ally is someone who does what you ask them. |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.24 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/01/2009 17:33:53 what am i
i honestly dont know
we are valuable allies of bob and absolutely not pets
right guys? guys?
so i am told
PWNING GD since 06
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.24 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Allie is for freinds and pet is for anitmals. Yuor eneimy are anitmals.
Jenny posts are great
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.24 00:53:00 -
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we need more jenny in GD she only been in a few poast she is obviously a new owner
she like a bike TBH
PWNING GD since 06
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Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.01.24 01:09:00 -
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Pets?? Wheres CVA when you need em.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.24 01:10:00 -
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but are CVA really pets , i mean they are allied to the empire ?
isnt that the greatest pet/ally you can have
PWNING GD since 06
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Alex Raptos
Caldari The Firestorm Millennium
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Posted - 2009.01.24 02:42:00 -
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Allies are friends, and will help each other. Pets buy space and then get kicked out when the owner wants their stations/stuff.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Morte Noir I was wondering what exactly is the differance between an Ally to an alliance or a pet of an alliance. There seems to me to be a very fine line as to what is what. I mean if you are an ally of a large blue alliance why would you be considered a pet. I would think a pet would be someone who fall sunder the bigger alliances leadership and has no autonimy on its own.
If I had to define it.
1. An Ally is an autonomous political entity. They may share some common goals but they also have their own agenda. They have enough military strength to defend their borders reasonably well.
2. A Pet is a semi-autonomous political entity. Generally they have their own agenda as well and common goals with their master state. They may also have certain standings dictated to them towards other states. They act much like vassal states of the feudal era. They generally assist their Masters to the best of their ability but are often not strong enough to hold space on their own. They generally pay a tribute to their master which is most often isk but other options might be moon minerals, minerals, industrial support, research, etc. |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:46:00 -
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Expectations.
Pets are not expected to do anything militarily. Thus they usually pay rent. Allys are, therefore they don't. -- 249km locking? |
Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:53:00 -
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0.0 is gay. The day I log on because some 'CEO' or 'Director' told me that if I wasn't online at some weird ass time of the day to protect an outpost or POS or whatever I would be out of the alliance, is the day I lop off my balls with a machete. I don't sacrifice **** in real life and I sure don't log onto a video game to work. I think that is the reason that every end game guild, shell, corp or group that I have even been in while playing MMOs don't like me. I was even told once that I need to commit 8 hours a day 5 days a week to be a part of their group. I sent the leader an IM with my paypal account details and told him that it would be $20 an hour for me to commit to it. Needless to say I wasn't accepted into that group of *****s.
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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:54:00 -
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You will know if you are ever in the position.
Just like you don't admit you are a pet, you won't be told you are one either. I've been bot a pet and an Ally. You know the difference when you are in the situation. |
Yarod Cool
Team JAVELIN Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.24 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot YOU have allies.
Your ENEMIES have pets.
All very simple.....
Just like YOU have fleets, your ENEMIES have blobs :)
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2009.01.24 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yarod Cool
Originally by: Sergeant Spot YOU have allies.
Your ENEMIES have pets.
All very simple.....
Just like YOU have fleets, your ENEMIES have blobs :)
So true. There is no such thing as a blob in EVE, just a bigger fleet.
First rule of basic combat.
If your enemy has a team, bring a squad. If your enemy has a squad, bring a platoon. If your enemy has a platoon, bring a company. If your enemy has a company, bring a ... well you get the point.
I think that everyone that feels it's unfair for their targets to bring more people than they currently have in a fleet are weak minded ***gots that need to wake up to the reality that in war there is no honor. It's kill or be killed, and the best way to ensure that you walk away from battle is to bring enough friends to overpower your enemy so fast that they don't get the chance to strike back at you. If you want fair play chess, for everything else, suck it up and drive on. |
DubanFP
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.24 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 24/01/2009 12:44:34
Q. what is the difference between an ally and a pet.
A. If your alliance is being judged then you're an ally. If you're judging a hostile alliance then they're a pet.
Ideally there would be room for all the stuff spoken about in the thread but quite frankly it all comes down to if you're the one being judged or not. People are just asswholes that way. _______________
Chances are I'm better then you, and I know it. Yes, I AM egocentric when it comes to this game, but if I wanted to care about others I wouldn't be playing EVE now would I. |
Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.24 12:42:00 -
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Roaming blobs aren't a real problem any more. They still happen but not as often, not since the nano nerf. Now, if you blob hostile space, you will lose ships. You may win the battle but you will lose ships. That took the appeal out of it for alot of people.
You still get blobbing in POS battles but you need to blob. Taking out a POS requires alot of dps. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.24 13:12:00 -
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An ally is someone you stab in the back, and endless drama follows. A pet is something you just get euthanised, and then you go to the pub. |
Amy Crest
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.24 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot YOU have allies.
Your ENEMIES have pets.
All very simple.....
This. :)
An ally is an entity you can trust to make signifiant efforts to help you when you need it, even if they have nothing to win out of it.
A pet is an entity blue to you only because of mutual interest. Generally, you give them some place to make money, and you get part of that money.
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Korizan
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Posted - 2009.01.24 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Korizan on 24/01/2009 14:58:04 A lot of alliances try to pretend other alliances are pets when they are not.
To put it simply.
A pet is an alliance or corporation that pays to stay in the owners space, period.
An ally is any alliance or corporation that another has blued. Despite popular belief if a major alliance has blued the 20 minor ones all around them and calls them road bumps the major alliance has fears. Fear of either the 20 minor banding together with each other or with another major alliance to cause problems.
The reverse also happens where a minor alliance trys to get a major alliance to blue them.
The bottom line is it doesn't matter who blued who, if you are not, or did not, make the other alliance pay, they are not a pet.
Sorry if that deflates a lot of swollen heads who feel more comfortable calling there neighbors pets but face the facts and get over it.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Horsemen of Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.01.24 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zephran Cocharan An Ally is someone who is blue to you a pet, is someone you have on a leash to do your bidding. Kind of like UK is to -A-, but then again UK is used to being in chains following masters orders
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2009.01.24 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 24/01/2009 19:41:07 a pet is a dog!
dogs don't think they do as there told!
good boy!
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Myfanwy Pisces
P H O E N I X
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Posted - 2009.01.24 20:28:00 -
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Dogs are pets.
Cats are ***HYPNOTIC OVERTURE*** Cats are our glorious overlords. All hail our feline saviors! Cats are our glorious overlords. All hail our feline saviors! ***RETURNING CONSCIENTIOUSNESS***
...our pets. ARGH!!! MY LEG!!!. Sooty!?? WTF? How can you even hold that chainsaw!??!!? WTH!?..... WAIT NO, DON'BLaghlafhfs&&8*%
*twitch*
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FinrodFelagund
The Zoo The Fifth Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.24 20:38:00 -
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An ally is somone who can hold their space without your help. A pet is somone who has their space soley because they are blue with you.
If you want to figure out if an alliance is a pet or not, look for r64 moons in their space, if they don't own them they are pretty much guaranteed pets.
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Speaker Dead
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Posted - 2009.01.24 20:53:00 -
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Ally, someone that watchs your back in a fight and makes the enemies life miserable.
Pet, someone that you have to protect in a fight.....(UNL?)
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2009.01.24 23:53:00 -
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The real question is: are you an ally or a pet in rl? |
Myfanwy Pisces
P H O E N I X
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Posted - 2009.01.25 00:12:00 -
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Oh thats too easy...
<--- Pet (Cat *Meow*) |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.01.25 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/01/2009 17:33:53 what am i
i honestly dont know
Goto Z-M5A1 and read the station's name. That's what you are.
PET.
The real question... what is AAA. They were pets... are they still pets? they are kind of big and powerful now? ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
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