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OffBeaT Caldari KaMiKaZes	Posted - 2009.01.24 00:53:00 - [31] DD'S should get a bonus with the web. real dd's in life where built for speed so they should get a mwd bonus or a sig bonus.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 00:54:00 - [32] so many give it a bonus like assult frigates ? PWNING GD since 06 click here for the EvELife blog
Gierling Gallente Viper Squad	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Armoured C so many give it a bonus like assult frigates ? OH No, I want a bonus that actually works.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:05:00 - [34] but web bonuses are recon bonuses , they got a sig reduction but you have to put AB on to make it effective i guess so that you harder to hit ? PWNING GD since 06 click here for the EvELife blog
SkyLordUK Amarr Baptism oF Fire B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:07:00 - [35] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/01/2009 00:26:51 Revelation for the OP - List of near utterly useless ships in Eve that no amount of isk poured into will stop them dying like tissue paper to nearly all enemies they could meet. Cruisers Scythe Augoror Omen Moa u obviously havent met me in my omen took me a few months to work out the bugs but by heck an omen can cause havoc if left alone
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:08:00 - [36] Originally by: SkyLordUK Originally by: 5pinDizzy Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/01/2009 00:26:51 Revelation for the OP - List of near utterly useless ships in Eve that no amount of isk poured into will stop them dying like tissue paper to nearly all enemies they could meet. Cruisers Scythe Augoror Omen Moa u obviously havent met me in my omen took me a few months to work out the bugs but by heck an omen can cause havoc if left alone second this
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:23:00 - [37] If I wasn't so chuffed about how well the Thrasher performs in its role once you have top skills (1600 alpha and permaruns at 2000ms. :-D) I might be arsed to complain. Cormie and to a lesser extent the catalyst are the long range snipers. The coercer and its myrid lows turns it into shredder for any frig or pod who wanders into its 23km 220dps almost instalocking sphere of sparkling lazor death. I guess its just the mandatory requirement of the near maximum fitting skills to get them to perform well for pvp is what puts the majority of people off. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:25:00 - [38] most people like me trained it when i were a newbie and went to cruisers PWNING GD since 06 click here for the EvELife blog
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:52:00 - [39] They are great ships to take to a blob. 8 x small pulse = high chance of getting KM.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 01:54:00 - [40] blob you want a dictor :) you get on every KM then :) at least i think it works like that can someone C/D this ? PWNING GD since 06 http://evelife.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/eve-life-new-year-tidings/[url]

James Holcomb Caldari Davy Jones Locker Enforcers of Serenity	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:02:00 - [41] I'd just like to see the comorant have the ability to fit more than one missile turret.
Haakelen Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:02:00 - [42] Originally by: James Holcomb I'd just like to see the comorant have the ability to fit more than one missile turret. Try a flycatcher.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:04:00 - [43] dont go caldari they are rubbish :) and ebil PWNING GD since 06 http://evelife.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/eve-life-new-year-tidings/[url]
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Haakelen Originally by: James Holcomb I'd just like to see the comorant have the ability to fit more than one missile turret. Try a flycatcher. Actually, it'd be nice to have a 'proper' missile destroyer. At the same time as having a proper railgun T2 destroyer. -- 249km locking?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:22:00 - [45] just use cruisers :p much more versatile PWNING GD since 06 http://evelife.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/eve-life-new-year-tidings/[url]
Haakelen Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:24:00 - [46] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Haakelen Originally by: James Holcomb I'd just like to see the comorant have the ability to fit more than one missile turret. Try a flycatcher. Actually, it'd be nice to have a 'proper' missile destroyer. At the same time as having a proper railgun T2 destroyer. I would really like a mini-cerberus t2 cormorant with explosion velocity/radius bonuses, an inty chewing machine. Probably overpowered, but it'd make destroyers fun again.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:24:00 - [47] The problem is not that they suck, its that they are misplaced in the progression of ships. I think in order to train destroyer skill you should need all basic fitting skills to 5.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Vabjekf The problem is not that they suck, its that they are misplaced in the progression of ships. I think in order to train destroyer skill you should need all basic fitting skills to 5. that a idea PWNING GD since 06 http://evelife.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/eve-life-new-year-tidings/[url]
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:36:00 - [49] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/01/2009 02:45:14 Since people want to pick my post apart I'll post why I posted what I did. Mining frigates weren't posted for combat efficiency, they were posted because they are pointless to anyone older then about 3 days. Coercer because of it's one midslot and stuck with being some sort of camper. augoror does cap transfer, limited usefulness. scythe target painting, more niche than cap transfer. Fitting bombs on stealth bombers, sooo, a frig with very limited usefulness again, only going to be doing that in 0.0 . Moa has no role. Maybe omen is a little unfair, but it's a very disposable cruiser, I've seen people lose no end of them. I'm more than happy if I saw an enemy in one, even if I was in a tech 1 cruiser too, free kill! woo! Throwaway paper ganker/tackler usually. It's like a caracal that dropped it's typical support role for kamikaze.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:38:00 - [50] amarr use alot of cap augoror does cap transfer, limited usefulness actually helpful my apoc could use a few burst of cap sometimes when sniping

Alex Raptos Caldari The Firestorm Millennium	Posted - 2009.01.24 02:41:00 - [51] They salvagwe stuff fine and do level 2's fine, what else do you need from a 700k-1mill ship?
Sagacious Z Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.24 03:09:00 - [52] Edited by: Sagacious Z on 24/01/2009 03:12:44 It seems every mod and every class of ship and even every individual ship has had its time in the forum of "why don't you nerf this and buff that"? Why don't players just play and enjoy the game, making use of the strengths and weaknesses of each mod and ship? This thread should be in the "Features and Ideas Discussion Forum" if you feel a game play item REALLY needs tweaked. By the way, I can't play without my destroyers. For the role I use them for, they are ideal. You need to find your "ideal role" for your destroyers.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.24 03:14:00 - [53] Originally by: Armoured C blob you want a dictor :) you get on every KM then :) at least i think it works like that can someone C/D this ? only if they try to warp out, so c and d!
OffBeaT Caldari KaMiKaZes	Posted - 2009.01.24 04:32:00 - [54] Edited by: OffBeaT on 24/01/2009 04:33:23 look we have nothing right now to counter cloak ships right so why not re roll the use of of the dd as they where in ww2 with fleets as sub hunters. why not use them in the same way as anti cloak ship hunters.. i type of sub hunter in eve..
Vabjekf	Posted - 2009.01.24 04:39:00 - [55] Originally by: OffBeaT Edited by: OffBeaT on 24/01/2009 04:33:23 look we have nothing right now to counter cloak ships right so why not re roll the use of of the dd as they where in ww2 with fleets as sub hunters. why not use them in the same way as anti cloak ship hunters.. i type of sub hunter in eve.. i will agree with this because i actually had this idea once and made a post about it and everything, it was part of an idea i had to redo ship scanners entierly. destroyers would be able to detect if a nearby cloaked ship was present, and be able to try and track it down, and could have a short range hi slot item to try and decloak nearby ships, or could eventually force one out of cloak if it pinpointed it on its scanners. of course the cloaked ship could always run away, particularly with a cov ops cloak, but thats where the close range (~15km) decloak module came in, you could always get lucky with that.
UMEE	Posted - 2009.01.24 08:27:00 - [56] destroyers are extremely underrated. T1 frig and destroyer gangs are like a swarm of flesh eating ants, devouring everything in their way. a destroyer does crazy damaged with high gunnery skills. just hope no one targets you and blast away. i dont think dessies need a boost. they're very popular in faction warfare and small gangs, especially for high SP players.
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.01.24 09:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Armoured C amarr use alot of cap augoror does cap transfer, limited usefulness actually helpful my apoc could use a few burst of cap sometimes when sniping Hmmm ill bring apoc + augoror or 2x apoc to fleet. Tough choice...
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:35:00 - [58] I heard someone was smacking the Moa. To him I say: GTFO DEAR SIR! As for destroyers needing a boost? Not really, maybe just put them all in line w/ the Thrasher. Rule of Thumb: If you think X ship is useless, you're most likely doing it wrong - MY LATEST VIDEO - FRIGANK 4
Battlecheese Caldari SiN. Corp Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.01.24 11:15:00 - [59] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Mining frigates weren't posted for combat efficiency, they were posted because they are pointless to anyone older then about 3 days. Tragically, you are correct. They hark from an age where noobs started with far fewer than 800k SPs.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.24 11:43:00 - [60] I don't think the tier 1 destroyers need a boost. I just think that we need more destroyers; a tier 2 destroyer for each race, and some T2 hulls; the long-awaited "science ship" with bonuses to salvaging, hacking and archeology; a T2 destroyer specifically designed to counter cloaking ships; and maybe an "assault" destroyer - your basic destroyer with T2 resists and a little more firepower.



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