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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:18:00 -
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This thread is a perfect example of how EVE is going wrong.
Players like Bosie are exactly what gives EVE the edge over all the other MMORPG's out there. It's about danger. Risk. Adrenaline.
When I started playing EVE (only a few months ago) going into low sec space was risky. I lost a few ships to player pirates in 0.1-0.4 and it was a blast. Set me back a lot a few times too, when I lost my thorax to a player rat 2 days after buying it I was crippled for a while.
But I never moaned, I never sent hate mails, what I did was I got better at playing the game and learned to defend and protect myself. I even managed a few kills on unsuspecting player rats who thought I was an easy miner kill :)
Since then CCP have made it harder and harder for pirates to operate. It's become less and less profitable for them and as far as I can tell it's effectively not a viable career choice now. Mining in the low-sec systems has become safer and safer to the point where I now mine in a 0.1 in a Dominix with no weapons on it and *never* get bothered.
And you know what? It's boring as hell. There's no rush, no fear, no adrenaline. If I didn't have a good combat alt I can pvp with I'd have moved on to another game by now.
I fervently hope that CCP read threads like this and start to realise what a pathetic bunch of people the carebears are and STOP PANDERING TO THEIR WHINGES AND CRYING. Kill piracy and you kill EVE.
I say YARRR! Go Bosie! Generate more hate mail, it's the way forward ! |
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:18:00 -
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This thread is a perfect example of how EVE is going wrong.
Players like Bosie are exactly what gives EVE the edge over all the other MMORPG's out there. It's about danger. Risk. Adrenaline.
When I started playing EVE (only a few months ago) going into low sec space was risky. I lost a few ships to player pirates in 0.1-0.4 and it was a blast. Set me back a lot a few times too, when I lost my thorax to a player rat 2 days after buying it I was crippled for a while.
But I never moaned, I never sent hate mails, what I did was I got better at playing the game and learned to defend and protect myself. I even managed a few kills on unsuspecting player rats who thought I was an easy miner kill :)
Since then CCP have made it harder and harder for pirates to operate. It's become less and less profitable for them and as far as I can tell it's effectively not a viable career choice now. Mining in the low-sec systems has become safer and safer to the point where I now mine in a 0.1 in a Dominix with no weapons on it and *never* get bothered.
And you know what? It's boring as hell. There's no rush, no fear, no adrenaline. If I didn't have a good combat alt I can pvp with I'd have moved on to another game by now.
I fervently hope that CCP read threads like this and start to realise what a pathetic bunch of people the carebears are and STOP PANDERING TO THEIR WHINGES AND CRYING. Kill piracy and you kill EVE.
I say YARRR! Go Bosie! Generate more hate mail, it's the way forward ! |
Earthan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:20:00 -
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tottaly agree Juan.
I was long ago destroyed 2-3 times in indies, its tottaly ok , i hadnt any hatred for my enemies, could be friend with them.
Sounds like great fun Bosie.Man After Powder stories and this i begin to be attracted by the dark side...
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
Earthan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:20:00 -
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tottaly agree Juan.
I was long ago destroyed 2-3 times in indies, its tottaly ok , i hadnt any hatred for my enemies, could be friend with them.
Sounds like great fun Bosie.Man After Powder stories and this i begin to be attracted by the dark side...
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
Bosie
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:21:00 -
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I ganked one mining Battleship with a Cruiser. That BS had enough drones to kill me twice over before I killed him. His stupid fault for being lazy in NON-Secure space.
As to my other kills, they were all against Cruisers that were armed and active. Why? I'm looking for a fight, it's that simple. Only thing is that most of these folks I took there ship from cried in local for me to stop only then did they start to shoot me once I was into the armour.
But to them that want to inlsult me, keep it up I find it as ammusing now as I do getting called a modder when I play other on-line games.
BTW my real life occupation involves running a small team (18 staff) who's role is to help other citizens in my country get out of the breadline.
Bosie.
P.S. Jud I have a few corpses if you would like to use them, not much wear and tear in them. ;)
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:21:00 -
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I ganked one mining Battleship with a Cruiser. That BS had enough drones to kill me twice over before I killed him. His stupid fault for being lazy in NON-Secure space.
As to my other kills, they were all against Cruisers that were armed and active. Why? I'm looking for a fight, it's that simple. Only thing is that most of these folks I took there ship from cried in local for me to stop only then did they start to shoot me once I was into the armour.
But to them that want to inlsult me, keep it up I find it as ammusing now as I do getting called a modder when I play other on-line games.
BTW my real life occupation involves running a small team (18 staff) who's role is to help other citizens in my country get out of the breadline.
Bosie.
P.S. Jud I have a few corpses if you would like to use them, not much wear and tear in them. ;)
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Zell
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
By George, I think I nailed it!
Truer words have never been spoken...!
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
Zell
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
By George, I think I nailed it!
Truer words have never been spoken...!
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
Earthan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:30:00 -
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And Bosie as for smacktalk and insults i got once a hate mail from a destroyed pirate!!
People are just unbelievable.
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
Earthan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:30:00 -
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And Bosie as for smacktalk and insults i got once a hate mail from a destroyed pirate!!
People are just unbelievable.
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:38:00 -
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I have never got hate mail :(
I only get smack and mails asking for compensation
And your career ingame doesnt make u a mugger or what ever in real life we are the same as miners and stuff, just we destroy not create...
Vels
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:38:00 -
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I have never got hate mail :(
I only get smack and mails asking for compensation
And your career ingame doesnt make u a mugger or what ever in real life we are the same as miners and stuff, just we destroy not create...
Vels
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
By George, I think I nailed it!
Truer words have never been spoken...!
Like firing lasers at roids for example
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.07.30 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
By George, I think I nailed it!
Truer words have never been spoken...!
Like firing lasers at roids for example
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:04:00 -
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ok, we see alot of threads dealing with pirates knocking out miners in low sec space... is it lame, maybe, is it the fight real pirates are looking for, probably not. fellow pirates should give this guy hell for easy kill what the low sec miners don't get, don't realize is that if you don't have defense, DONT GO. I myself was "humbled" by my complacency running missions. I was doing missions in my bs (only thing you can do in a new one besides mining :-P) early in game. I went to a 0.2 system to drop off courier mission item and made it there fine. I headed back to home base, happy to have one more mission done, and was warping thru gonditsa the last 0.3 before home stretch empire space, the same route I took out there. BOOM what looked like 10 flashing red targetting pirates went to town on me, I kicked in my mwd and hauled ass to gate. I was bombarded by a gauntlet of smartbombs on the left and right side of my ship, and doing cartwheels from the missles slamming me around, I got to 5k from the gate when structure went BOOM, pod floating mouth open gauking at screen, I didn't even realize my pod still lived, headed to the gate again, BOOM pod goes, screen blank, and I'm back at station. I read the kill mail and to my surprise one of the rats that killed me was named Artemis, I felt worse and convo'd him, told him nice one you got me blah blah blah, I WAS FURIOUS, but it was my fault for not checking and being naive. Lost b.s. and 4 +3 implants, and no insurance. summary: for those that don't like a good story, you get blown up/podded/attacked you learn and learn fast or you will die again. EVE words to live by "You have to be young and stupid before you can be old and wise"
Plug: P.O.P (player owned police) is now gathering and will be training, organizing, until Shiva then we go live ___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |
Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:04:00 -
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ok, we see alot of threads dealing with pirates knocking out miners in low sec space... is it lame, maybe, is it the fight real pirates are looking for, probably not. fellow pirates should give this guy hell for easy kill what the low sec miners don't get, don't realize is that if you don't have defense, DONT GO. I myself was "humbled" by my complacency running missions. I was doing missions in my bs (only thing you can do in a new one besides mining :-P) early in game. I went to a 0.2 system to drop off courier mission item and made it there fine. I headed back to home base, happy to have one more mission done, and was warping thru gonditsa the last 0.3 before home stretch empire space, the same route I took out there. BOOM what looked like 10 flashing red targetting pirates went to town on me, I kicked in my mwd and hauled ass to gate. I was bombarded by a gauntlet of smartbombs on the left and right side of my ship, and doing cartwheels from the missles slamming me around, I got to 5k from the gate when structure went BOOM, pod floating mouth open gauking at screen, I didn't even realize my pod still lived, headed to the gate again, BOOM pod goes, screen blank, and I'm back at station. I read the kill mail and to my surprise one of the rats that killed me was named Artemis, I felt worse and convo'd him, told him nice one you got me blah blah blah, I WAS FURIOUS, but it was my fault for not checking and being naive. Lost b.s. and 4 +3 implants, and no insurance. summary: for those that don't like a good story, you get blown up/podded/attacked you learn and learn fast or you will die again. EVE words to live by "You have to be young and stupid before you can be old and wise"
Plug: P.O.P (player owned police) is now gathering and will be training, organizing, until Shiva then we go live ___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 30/07/2004 12:16:35
Originally by: Earthan tottaly agree Juan.
I was long ago destroyed 2-3 times in indies, its tottaly ok , i hadnt any hatred for my enemies, could be friend with them.
Sounds like great fun Bosie.Man After Powder stories and this i begin to be attracted by the dark side...
Lol you don't want to switch sides yet Earth, you have taught me most of your tricks :P
Would be a same to have to use them against you :P
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Juan Andalusian on 30/07/2004 12:16:35
Originally by: Earthan tottaly agree Juan.
I was long ago destroyed 2-3 times in indies, its tottaly ok , i hadnt any hatred for my enemies, could be friend with them.
Sounds like great fun Bosie.Man After Powder stories and this i begin to be attracted by the dark side...
Lol you don't want to switch sides yet Earth, you have taught me most of your tricks :P
Would be a same to have to use them against you :P
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Purvy
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
Actualy dedicated PVPers usually don't drop as good of loot as others do. I mean a few cargo mods and you can make a ton of isk. Haulers are addicted to those things like *****. you kill a dedicated pvper and you may get a decent gun or tech 2 mod that will sell for a fraction of what a local conversion does.
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Purvy
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari I still don't understand why "dedicated" PVP people get more fun ganking targets that don't shoot back than fighting each other.
Unless said people really don't want targets that shoot back and are therefore the only real carebears in the game.
Actualy dedicated PVPers usually don't drop as good of loot as others do. I mean a few cargo mods and you can make a ton of isk. Haulers are addicted to those things like *****. you kill a dedicated pvper and you may get a decent gun or tech 2 mod that will sell for a fraction of what a local conversion does.
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:38:00 -
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Bosie, may your path be filled with carnage and destruction. Pirates will always be called all the names you can imagine by a certain players. Why they think their opinion would matter to us, is beyond me. My own theory is that the ones who smack you the worst, are the ones who fear you the most. And according to them, no matter what you do, if you gate camp its lame and lazy, if you hunt miners/npc hunters youre a coward, shoot an indy and your both, the only time your not an lazy lame coward as*hole griefer, is when they get away. They will then call you a sucker instead.
Take my word for it, theese players will always find something to blame on bcus god forbid, they never made a misstake that was the cause of their own demise. cheers, and good job on the armageddon. [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |
Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.07.30 12:38:00 -
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Bosie, may your path be filled with carnage and destruction. Pirates will always be called all the names you can imagine by a certain players. Why they think their opinion would matter to us, is beyond me. My own theory is that the ones who smack you the worst, are the ones who fear you the most. And according to them, no matter what you do, if you gate camp its lame and lazy, if you hunt miners/npc hunters youre a coward, shoot an indy and your both, the only time your not an lazy lame coward as*hole griefer, is when they get away. They will then call you a sucker instead.
Take my word for it, theese players will always find something to blame on bcus god forbid, they never made a misstake that was the cause of their own demise. cheers, and good job on the armageddon. [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:02:00 -
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some people even tell in local thy sold viceroy our location ^^
that was too funy, especially when we had SPVDs with us Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:02:00 -
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some people even tell in local thy sold viceroy our location ^^
that was too funy, especially when we had SPVDs with us Wanna fly with me?
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Joe Blob
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Blob on 30/07/2004 13:49:59 It never ceases to amaze me how a certain number of miners continually get upset about being ganked in low sec, thinking its their god given right to mine there, totally risk free.
Its rather like a Jewish dude walking through the back streets of Bagdad, then wondering why u being raped and beheaded by a bunch of Iraqis.
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Joe Blob
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Posted - 2004.07.30 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Blob on 30/07/2004 13:49:59 It never ceases to amaze me how a certain number of miners continually get upset about being ganked in low sec, thinking its their god given right to mine there, totally risk free.
Its rather like a Jewish dude walking through the back streets of Bagdad, then wondering why u being raped and beheaded by a bunch of Iraqis.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Blob Edited by: Joe Blob on 30/07/2004 13:49:59
Its rather like a Jewish dude walking through the back streets of Bagdad, then wondering why u being raped and beheaded by a bunch of Iraqis.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.30 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Blob Edited by: Joe Blob on 30/07/2004 13:49:59
Its rather like a Jewish dude walking through the back streets of Bagdad, then wondering why u being raped and beheaded by a bunch of Iraqis.
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Elucidate
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Posted - 2004.07.30 15:35:00 -
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Ah, the age old whine thread from the Pvp/Non-PvPers..
Both sides need to quit their crying and get on with life :)
All PvP games will have people who have nothing better to do then gank defenseless ships since they don't dare take on a ship with defenses. Props to the pirates that actually pirate. :)
And that's why I stay in .6+ sec space. ------------ Elucidate - Extraordinarily Lazy Miner |
Elucidate
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Posted - 2004.07.30 15:35:00 -
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Ah, the age old whine thread from the Pvp/Non-PvPers..
Both sides need to quit their crying and get on with life :)
All PvP games will have people who have nothing better to do then gank defenseless ships since they don't dare take on a ship with defenses. Props to the pirates that actually pirate. :)
And that's why I stay in .6+ sec space. ------------ Elucidate - Extraordinarily Lazy Miner |
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