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Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.19 08:50:00 -
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It's very unusual for me to sell my T2 bpos, but due to multiple purchase opportunities at once, I may have to dump this pair of bpos.
Rules :
- The 2 bpos will not be sold separatly because my aim is to help someone strengthen its market position
- ME:6 and ME:5 both are PE:5
- Starting bid : 200b
- Bid increment : 1b
- Auction ends : May 1st, 21:00 EVT
- Snipper rule : 15 min
- Buyout : I don't care, bids only
And... I reserve the right to not sell in the case I simply would not need these isks anymore  (but that won't happen...)
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
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Posted - 2012.04.19 09:11:00 -
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start you of with 4 yrs profit, 4 million isk offer |
Herja
Xanadu
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:20:00 -
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Pardon me, but strengthen the market, there isn't even a market for cerberus atm.
And you know that you are asking 30 years of profit?
Anyway gl.
consider it as free bump! |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.19 12:45:00 -
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Thanks to the posters for their contributions and bumps, I believe these pilots know what they speak about, monitoring closely the T2 bpo auctions in the sell orders forums.
I agree that the profit margin is low today. But profit margins may vary in a near future for many reasons : ship overhaul, ship redesign, T1 and faction ships prices... I believe that there is a strong possibility that the Cerberus gets some love in the incoming year, hence the price I ask for.
I've bought tens of T2 ship bpos for years and allways paid a good price for them, because I believed they'll get an overhaul one day or another : 4 examples :
I bought 2 impel bpos at buyout despite profit was very thin atm, but they got an overhaul (+2 warp strenght) and today the game itself is asking for deep space transports : low-sec PI, WH.
Impel Bpo sale
The same way I bought 2 prorator bpos for a price which was expansive when looking at the profit per year, after what they were boosted, being able to fit covert cloaks. since, they are in great demand, I don't even see them twice in my sell orders just because they sell so fast.
Prorator bpo sale
The same way Deimos had an awfull reputation : "die most", "sucking blaster boat" and low profit margin ofc . A blaster buff and gallente ship buff later, Deimos sell like pancakes
Deimos bpo sale
And about the Oneiros, I bought my 3rd bpo while gallente logistic were in overproduction since years, the demand was low and they were hard to sell. Due to many changes to the game mechanics (PvP, incursions) and a ship buff they sell nicely today, at higher prices than Basilisks...
Oneiros bpo sale
And I remember when the sacrilege been redesigned, how the sales skyrocketed for weeks when Sacrilege were so had to sell before...
This sale is an opportunity for who looks more far than an immediate profit margin. There is no risk : T2 bpos never lost value and this forum dictates their prices month after month.
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Joseph Dredd
Mega City One
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Posted - 2012.04.19 18:29:00 -
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There is no need to justify your auction, if people think the price is right they will bid on it.
Personally I have always liked the Cerb and if I had anywhere near enough for these I may take a punt. Who knows what CCP will do to these in future.
To a lesser extent I did the same when I got a couple of hail prints at a low price for T2 prints and CCP gave those a boost which over night tripled their value so you just don't know what's round the corner.
Good luck with your auction and a free bump for you |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:54:00 -
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40b each
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Stella SGP
195
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:02:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote: start you of with 4 yrs profit, 4 million isk offer
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote: 40b each
You seem awfully interested in 2 BPOs that makes 1 mil profit per year... |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.20 08:43:00 -
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Joseph Dredd wrote:To a lesser extent I did the same when I got a couple of hail prints at a low price for T2 prints and CCP gave those a boost which over night tripled their value so you just don't know what's round the corner.
Yes I remember when it occcured. T2 ammo and ships are subject to minor changes and tweaks which can make them sexier in a wink.
For T2 modules it almost never happens, thus the annual profit is a good tool to determine the value of module blueprints
For T2 ship blueprint I never look at the annual profit, I just wonder if there is a possibility for an evolution of gameplay make it more attractive or downright popular. In fact, very few ships have not been improved by CCP in recent years.
Cerberus are heavily concurrenced by Tengus. One might speculate that one day, after an overhaul, Cerberus become a kind of super manticore... Heavy Assault Bomber, it would sound good
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:20:00 -
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i doubt hac will ever become super bombers... i dont see the vaga becomming a bomber rolf
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:30:00 -
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Well I'm not willing to be overspeculative, but in a recent devblog, CCP Ytterbium stated that Tech 2 ships would tend to be more specialized in opposition to Tech 3, more flexible :
Devblog
and about a futur overhaul :
Quote:In practice however, after assessing ship slots, EHP, speed, fitting potential and role overlap, we estimate almost half of our currently available ships to have suboptimal use, or are just be plain not worth it at all for pilots looking to min-max.
In line with that, considering the concurrence of Tengus, one can say that Cerberus have suboptimal use.
Hemmo Paskiainen sees an analogy in roles where there is an homology in ship designs only : Into the PvP field Vagas and Cerberus have nothing in common, one is fast and heavy tackler, the other has at most an auxiliary role... Cerbs are most used for PvE, Vagas not. (Hemmo sunglasses must be dirty, he confuses hulls  )
So I do not think that through a future specialization, the fates of all are linked... Cerbs will most likely receive an overhaul and a new role, Vagas, I would not bet on it...
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:44:00 -
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From a friend's pm : HAC BPOs don't exactly grow on trees....
o/
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
MR rockafella
Santa's Factory
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:56:00 -
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100b |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.05.01 10:52:00 -
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bump
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:00:00 -
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Lara Dantreb wrote:Well I'm not willing to be overspeculative, but in a recent devblog, CCP Ytterbium stated that Tech 2 ships would tend to be more specialized in opposition to Tech 3, more flexible : Devblog
I am not doubting that it actually is possibe that Cerberus might revieve a buff in the future (like any ship that is not OP atm) but IF you would honestly believe that, you wouldnt sell them now :p
also its hemmo, what do you expect vOv
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Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:42:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:I am not doubting that it actually is possibe that Cerberus might recieve a buff in the future (like any ship that is not OP atm) but IF you would honestly believe that, you wouldnt sell them now :p
In fact I was not wiling to sell them, but I had 2 very interesting T2 bpos in line of sight for which I needed cash
Now, one has been sold already, and I'm not short anymore to purchase the second one...
I expect to see the end of this auction to decide what I'll do...
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:11:00 -
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Bpos not sold
No worries, time will come you will find it was cheap deal. 
----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á ---
--- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Kinooe
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:05:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:[quote=Lara Dantreb]
also its hemmo, what do you expect vOv
trolling with neut alts is soooo 2004, cerb's are just simply fail unless they get a significant boost which would make them awesome would only make up for the price you ask. Given the chance, speed and competance of ccp's developing skills i serious doubt it will happen anytime soon.
just my 2 cents, |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:45:00 -
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Kinooe wrote:
trolling with neut alts is soooo 2004,
2004 was a good year,
btw. a noob corp char defending said trolled person and his opinion on this topic got introduced in 2004 aswell I heard.
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