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Emmum
Gay Love
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Posted - 2009.02.21 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Synex
Originally by: Ashen Brarn
Originally by: Sade Onyx Grew up with half my family witness's and the other not.
Being of a scientific mind and with proper research I cant fail the bibles authenticity, given the choice creation always made more sense to me than evoloution.
I would really like to see you explain how your scientific mind rationalises creation in favour of evolution.
The way I always looked at it was...
Imagine they found a house on Mars, with plumbing, electric etc. Would you believe that it all came about by chance, or that aliens built it? Because there is honestly a greater chance of there being a house built from the deposits of sediments etc that just happened to turn into bricks and cement than there is of intelligent life coming about by chance.
If this is some sort of anti-evolution statement, I assume you don't work in microbiology...you can see bacteria evolve against the antibiotics we make against them - in your own lifetime, in fact, sometimes in as little as two weeks, bacteria become resistant to new drugs.
That's why anti-evolution sentiment is actually a public health risk.
It's kind of laughable how people argue against evolution when it's happening in their own bodies and in labs across the world.
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Asmodeaus
Gallente APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.02.21 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chips nBeans
Originally by: Ashen Brarn
Originally by: Sade Onyx Grew up with half my family witness's and the other not.
Being of a scientific mind and with proper research I cant fail the bibles authenticity, given the choice creation always made more sense to me than evoloution.
I would really like to see you explain how your scientific mind rationalises creation in favour of evolution.
No need, evolution is a theory created by man, his name was Charles Darwin, he spent his entire life looking for scientific evidence to backup his theory. At the end of his life he admited to not having found such evidence and that his theory was most probably incorrect.
Also, Creation vs Evoloution is a subject I studied and research for many years, What, you think Darwin came up with the 'theory' of evoloution by posting on forums and making wild guesses?... no, Darwins theory was based on long research and study. so I am not about to explain to you on a forum. If you really want to see the evidence then I suggest you offer a cup of tea to the next JW that knocks on your door. and be prepared to STUDY.
posting with other alt XD
Darwin never recanted his theory. This is fundie propaganda thats gone all over the world thanks to dogmatic people using the intarwebs. At most he may have said something over the course of his life implying that it wasn't perfect, and because all the religious opposition seems to know how to do is quote mine, its taken way out of context.
Gravity is only an imperfect theory too.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 11:38:00 -
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how can you be a witness to Jehovah? pics or gtfo
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Pilk
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chips nBeans No need, evolution is a theory created by man, his name was Charles Darwin, he spent his entire life looking for scientific evidence to backup his theory. At the end of his life he admited to not having found such evidence and that his theory was most probably incorrect.
Also, Creation vs Evoloution is a subject I studied and research for many years, What, you think Darwin came up with the 'theory' of evoloution by posting on forums and making wild guesses?... no, Darwins theory was based on long research and study. so I am not about to explain to you on a forum. If you really want to see the evidence then I suggest you offer a cup of tea to the next JW that knocks on your door. and be prepared to STUDY.
First, if you aren't willing to actually read what I'm about to post, stop here and save us both a lot of time.
Still here? Good.
Darwin never recanted. He openly admitted his occasional belief that a benevolent power may have shaped evolution, or provided the "original materials", so to speak, but this was more the fair-mindedness of an agnostic than the sudden uncertainty of a true believer--proving the absence of external forces in this situation would be impossible. Instead, his goal was to prove that evolution did not need such an external factor.
The canonical Watchtower anti-evolution text, handed to me by a JW on many occasions, is "Life: How Did It Get Here?" This book is replete with misquotations and outright lies, and has been in continuous publication since the late 80's. They don't even fix the incorrect page-number citations. There are far more damning reviews of that work here; I encourage you to print out a few and ask why the Watchtower Society hasn't corrected the errors in the book. Perhaps not entirely relevant, but my favorite quote from this essay is: "[Check out] p.34, with a depiction of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Note the makeup on Eve. I guess God created her with lipstick and eyeliner, eh?"
Here's the real crux of the argument, though--everything written above is just a distraction. Darwin could have recanted, and it wouldn't matter. The Watchtower people could have written a flawless critique of evolution that merely ignored facts, instead of distorting them wildly. Evolution would still be correct. You see, in the scientific world, nothing is proven. Opponents of evolution love to point out that it's a "theory". So is gravity. Here's how a theory works:
Theory proposes fundamental law: Objects attract one another according to their mass and their relative distance.
Theory generates hypothesis: If I drop this rock, it will hit the ground.
Hypothesis suggests experiment: Ooh, I'll try dropping this rock.
Experiment produces result: I dropped this rock, and it hit the ground.
Result produces conclusion: I cannot, with this experiment, disprove the theory of gravity.
So here's the real power of the scientific method. One result--just one!--completely disproves the theory, as long as it's repeatable. If I drop the rock and it doesn't hit the ground, at a very minimum, an exception must now be added to the theory. Now, given the power to destroy a theory like evolution, here's the great part: EVERYONE, even the most ardent supporters of evolution, would LOVE to disprove it. Science is driven by fame. Every schoolchild alive knows the name "Charles Darwin". Do you know the name "Johann Joachim Becher"? That's because phlogiston is no longer an active component of the scientific worldview. And sure enough, Lavoisier, who disproved it, gets around 500,000 Google hits to Becher's 50,000 or so. No scientist would pass up the chance to be in every science textbook in the world. There's no conspiracy to keep evolution at the forefront, because there can't be.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N how can you be a witness to Jehovah? pics or gtfo
I think it's something to do with turning beer into **** or feeding lots of people with a Tesco tuna sandwich.
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Jago Kain
Amarr Pan Galactic Traders
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 ...go sell crazy somewhere else.
Praise from Caesar is praise indeed.
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:13:00 -
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We're still waiting for the Amish to start playing. -----------------------------------------------
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.20 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Minara Nex Quite true about the pacifist thing, tho I'd like to hope most of us can tell the difference between RL and a game...
... hmm, tho there are some REAL weirdos out there.
You are incorrect. The matter of whether 'violence' is done in RL or in game is irrelevant.
Pacifism isn't about not participating in violent acts, it is about the belief that violence is not the answer. Thus your statement that computergame violence isn't 'real' violence is faulty due to the fact that in order to commit this 'unreal' violence you must still hold the belief that said 'unreal' violence serves a (certain) goal within that 'unreal' world.
This principally goes against all true pacifistic believes and thus this leads me to my conclusion, which I shall now state:
You, dear sir, are a hypocrit. __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.20 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 20/03/2009 15:41:21
Originally by: Minara Nex
Originally by: Locus Bey Luckily for you EVE isn't a fantasy game with magic or witchcraft, or we wouldn't be seeing you in these parts would we Read a Harry Potter novel lately?
Quite true! Not a great fan of Harry Potter, i did see the first two films, and whilst i did have the major hots for Hermionee (SP?) i thought the rest of the films were a load of balls.
To be honest, if you like Harry Potter, you suck balls.
You are allowed to believe in an imaginary invisible omnipotent man that supposedly created life and the universe itself but if we enjoy watching/reading a story about wizardry that we know and accept to be fake for entertainment we 'suck balls' ?
oh my... oh my indeed __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Melor Rend
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Melor Rend on 31/03/2009 15:30:05
Originally by: Luirich (except murderers and rapists who really need to die a very slow and painful death)
Would be funny if it were not so sad. "Hey he killed someone and killing is wrong so lets kill him slowly and painfully" ... wait what?
Teh dark ages be that way -->
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Father Goose
Amarr Order of the Lamp
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Posted - 2009.04.02 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Minara Nex Before anyone asks, no this isn't flamebait.
I'm looking to find out whether there are any fellow Witnesses playing?
Post if you are!
I was born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness. At 15, my parents divorced and I was excommunicated along with my entire family. I guess I was tainted by association. The excommunication cost me most of my friends, as Kingdom Hall rules require no contact with the likes of me and mine. 32 years later, your ilk has learned not to knock at my door. I ate most of them raw, not sparing the children they had in tow. I was once one of them, and haven't forgotten how they want children treated. Those same silly rules requiring no contact forbid you to associate with me, so you should stop reading now.
I play a priest in Eve and have become a minister in real life. You could say I have lots of issues. Lots and lots of them. I like my hobby!
Serving the Spiritual needs of the Matari, and all Children of Eve, by the Grace of God
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.02 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Father Goose
I was born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness. At 15, my parents divorced and I was excommunicated along with my entire family. I guess I was tainted by association. The excommunication cost me most of my friends, as Kingdom Hall rules require no contact with the likes of me and mine.
So your parents divorce through no fault of your own and your "friends" are forced to disown you - an innocent person - for the "sins" of others?
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Venetiyan'Hel
Minmatar Violation of Freedom Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 19:36:00 -
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I'll sell you my religion for the measly sum of 3billion ISK.
ISK goes to me.
ON another note, do JW's tell knock knock jokes?
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Darathor Omegie
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Posted - 2009.04.05 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 26/01/2009 10:58:38 I don't think many EvE players can be Jehovah's Witnesses After all, how many people saw Jehovah's Accident?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i thought Jehovah's Witnesses were pacifist. Not very popular folks for a PvP centric game
Unless they can, you know, distinguish a game from reality.
Then they no not of there own beliefs. In most christian beliefs and in even some cult adaptations of christianity it is "not what goes in that is a sin" but rather "what comes out".
Meaning thought=action. If you steal in real life or in a game it is still a sin. If you murder someone(kill for no reason) it is still a sin as if you actually murdered a person because the thought alone is equal to it.
A wicked person's only limitation is how much do they think they can get away with. In online games wicked people will be wicked while good people will be "good".
Because of the low risk factors involved in games it allows a person's true personality to show.
But to say "it is only a game" is an attempt at self delusion. Because if life is clearly finite and we are merely passing through it would life seem as a "game" in the grand design of things?
Everything we do in life matters, just because it is a "game" doesn't change anything. Because it is still apart of our existence here, something we do to pass the time. But by the OP logic it is OK to cheat in a poker game.. because it is only a "game" after all.
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Alva Noto
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 10:30:00 -
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The next one who says jehovah...
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.06 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Alva Noto The next one who says jehovah...
Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah.
There.
Yahweh works too I suppose.
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.06 17:14:00 -
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We once saw him in ROIR. He tried to hide. We killed him.
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