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Davien Thule
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Posted - 2009.01.27 03:50:00 -
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I could no longer solo hunt in an Ishtar, Deimos, command ship, anything. You can't have fun like how it was possible before.
Now you need 3 tacklers and multiple support to catch and kill something.
Despite all of the nerfs Warp-to-0 was the killer.
To top it off, they also nerf'd Privateers. Anything fun = nerf.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.27 03:59:00 -
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Falcons ruined PVP, yet you don't see anyone whining do you?
lmao...ohhh me...ignore me. Also I'm not anti falcon, I just wanted to say it before anyone else.
CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
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Cromzor
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:38:00 -
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I think the goal of CCP is to remove the ability to impose non consensual PVP on anyone. Even in 0.0 you only catch people that are either dumb or impatient.
Warp to zero Gigantic gates Increased agility De-agress burn back And when in doubt, Logoffski
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McTard
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Posted - 2009.01.27 06:05:00 -
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Yeah, but Devs said they want all forms of EVE pvp to remain viable, even solo. I don't see the slightest bit of evidence to prove this, in fact the reverse is true but hey, I've been wrong before! |
Inara Subaka
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 06:20:00 -
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Karrade made me lol.
And as for WTZ... people were warping to zero anyways, they just had to plan ahead. I remember making good monies making WTZ bookmarks and selling them (easy monies, EASY monies).
They claim they allowed WTZ to remove the BM load on the servers, and I'm sure the millions of bookmarks being made were causing a bit of trouble.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.27 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Inara Subaka Karrade made me lol.
And as for WTZ... people were warping to zero anyways, they just had to plan ahead. I remember making good monies making WTZ bookmarks and selling them (easy monies, EASY monies).
They claim they allowed WTZ to remove the BM load on the servers, and I'm sure the millions of bookmarks being made were causing a bit of trouble.
o/ Inara, long time no see! I heard Neo Ruined EVE...(to be on topic)
CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
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Silent Sins
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2009.01.27 08:16:00 -
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I heard people *****ing ruined eve. ------------------------------ ******************** ------------------------------ |
H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.27 09:06:00 -
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I have not been here before WTZ so I have no comparison.
What I do know is that solo PVP is not dead. When I go out in my Ishkur or Taranis (too greedy to solo in a HAC) I get a fight most of the time. Non-consensual fights usually only happen when I meet someone who is drunk/under drug influence/an absolute noob but even that happens sometimes. However, it's the consensual ones that provide the most fun and also the better loot - if it's not a trap .
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Akiba Penrose
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Posted - 2009.01.27 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Akiba Penrose on 27/01/2009 10:23:57 Solo pvp is now about deception (and spotting Falcon alts before its to late), not easy ganks at gates.
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.27 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: DaDutchDude on 27/01/2009 18:07:47 You really needed to double post your whining about such an ancient change with a relative noob toon? What a fail troll ...
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.27 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: McTard Yeah, but Devs said they want all forms of EVE pvp to remain viable, even solo. I don't see the slightest bit of evidence to prove this, in fact the reverse is true but hey, I've been wrong before!
I also see that the latest game changes from CCP show remarkable lack of understanding of what this game is about. I'm not even sure these are the same people who actually made this game. It can't be the same people
But not all is bad. Warp to 0 feature is good. Because all the good fighters and smart carebears used 0km warp bookmarks. Only the noobs didn't have warp to 0. So while this feature reduces the amount of gankage that takes place, it has little effect on quality pvp - where both opposing sides are good fighters. Personally, I prefer to fight people who are smart rather than just gank noobs
The giant gate also has good thought put into it. CCP put giant gate in choke point systems between empire and 0.0 - it's actually a smart move since there's usually too much predictable camping going on. And if the camping blob is large enough, it can handle a large gate. So, giant gates make it harder to camp the choke points, but you can still camp the outbound gate in same system, which is still small.
However, there's still a bunch of unnecessarily large gates in empire. Especially the minmatar regions. But the 0.0 choke point idea was good.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.01.27 20:11:00 -
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Warp-to-Zero is probably one of the most significant changes CCP made in their effort to reduce lag system wide, and as it has been stated; everyone with half a brain were using gate-to-gate BMs anyway.
The HP increases and the blob mentality spawned from the growing population has had a far greater impact on solo PvP than anything else.
Privateers were not nerfed, they were streamlined. I'd wager they have actual confrontations with their prey now rather than having afk hauler ganks all day long .. I'd even go so far as to say that Privateers are probably having more fun now than when there was no practical limit to wardecs.
If you are not happy where you are, may I suggest you join the Amarr militia, lots of solo work against superior numbers - glory, honour and all that included. |
Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.01.27 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cromzor Even in 0.0 you only catch people that are either dumb or impatient
That gives you quite a lot of targets tbh. |
Soporo
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.28 02:29:00 -
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Pfft, the current inability of many ships to now fight under their weight class did more to destroy solo pvp than anything else. |
Xzar Fyrarr
Minmatar Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.01.28 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Davien Thule I could no longer solo hunt in an Ishtar, Deimos, command ship, anything. You can't have fun like how it was possible before.
Now you need 3 tacklers and multiple support to catch and kill something.
Despite all of the nerfs Warp-to-0 was the killer.
To top it off, they also nerf'd Privateers. Anything fun = nerf.
I find WTZ useful in solo pvp.... Deagress also makes solo pvp easier... I've seen people solo pvp in ishtar's and have loads of fun AND<- are good at it...
I don't... see what the problem is here...?
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Lady Katrana
Wild Jokers
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Posted - 2009.01.28 03:47:00 -
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I ruined solo pvp. |
Vishnu Calm
Anarchy NOW Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.28 08:59:00 -
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You can't find solo pvp if you are posting on the forums. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.28 09:08:00 -
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arguin on the internet is a kind of pvp... if u think about it....
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Inara Subaka
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death
Originally by: Cromzor Even in 0.0 you only catch people that are either dumb or impatient
That gives you quite a lot of targets tbh.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:12:00 -
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your stuff, can I?
seriously, this old chesnut, go play something else since the game is clearly conspiring against you.
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Misina Arlath
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: McTard Yeah, but Devs said they want all forms of EVE pvp to remain viable, even solo.
I think it's called Faction Wars.
Then again, Faction Wars isn't really pirating I suppose.
Oh, and you all forgot to mention the Transport Ships getting Cov-ops cloaks too. -------------------------------------------------- "Every complex problem has a solution which is easy, neat and wrong!" |
Vampasha
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Vampasha on 28/01/2009 12:40:17 Edited by: Vampasha on 28/01/2009 12:39:37
Originally by: Akiba Penrose Edited by: Akiba Penrose on 27/01/2009 10:23:57 Solo pvp is now about deception (and spotting Falcon alts before its to late), not easy ganks at gates.
You could always fly with an alt to counter his falcon alt or ask CCP for nerf the falcon , your choice. -------------- I am Zsa Zsa of Borg. Prepare to be assimilated dahling |
Makko Gray
Gallente Nexus Aerospace Corporation Leather Rose Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:00:00 -
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Warp to 0 was what made EVE playable for me again. I originally stopped playing cause it took so long to do anything in anything bigger than a frigate (well, accept sit on gates) unless you managed a ton of bookmarks. Spending a whole evening just in transit to get where you need to go was not my idea of fun.
There's still ways to get your kicks you just can't be so lazy about it.
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:40:00 -
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I know lots of people who do successful solo PvP, and I see solo kills on killboards all the time. The problem may be a bit closer to home.
And the privateers were just annoying. Not fun. Annoying.
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.01.29 09:49:00 -
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ccp made it to stop the server load some adapated and quite well others have struggled |
StarStryder
Zero-Hour
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Posted - 2009.01.29 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Makko Gray Warp to 0 was what made EVE playable for me again. I originally stopped playing cause it took so long to do anything in anything bigger than a frigate (well, accept sit on gates) unless you managed a ton of bookmarks. Spending a whole evening just in transit to get where you need to go was not my idea of fun.
There's still ways to get your kicks you just can't be so lazy about it.
This. Anyone who lived and fought in 0.0 or lowsec had BMs for every gate and station in the systems they frequented. WTZ change NOTHING. All it did was lower the server load.
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Vargrh
Gallente Quasar Fleet
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:52:00 -
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Plenty of PVP action in game for solo, thou it is true you no longer get people afk travelling in low sec with haulers full of zyd... You need to be a bit more creative these days, but it is possible to make good isk and have a lot of fun playing solo or small gang pvp. Its better to play with a few others anyway so you can have a laugh about good kills and compete to see who can get the most offensive smack from a mark.
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Draeca
Tharri and Co.
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Posted - 2009.01.30 07:34:00 -
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Solo PvP isn't dead, it just smells funny. |
Silent Sins
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2009.01.30 07:56:00 -
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omfg falcons ruined warp to 0 |
Narishema
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.30 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Misina Arlath
Originally by: McTard Yeah, but Devs said they want all forms of EVE pvp to remain viable, even solo.
I think it's called Falcon Wars.
Then again, Falcon Wars isn't really pirating I suppose.
Oh, and you all forgot to mention the Transport Ships getting Cov-ops cloaks too.
Fixed
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