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Max Godsnottlingson
Amarr Freelancing Cares Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:08:00 -
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Greetings fellow pod pilots.
I was born as an Amarrian, and still fly Amarr ships exclusively. However, for all of my pod pilot career I have been a part of the Freelancing movement and as a result count as many, if not more, Minmatar and Galliante pilots as good friends.
I know them to be good and brave pilots who are willing to take the fight to the foe, and put themselves in danger to help out this Amarrian when he has bitten off more then he could chew. Good loyal friends who I would not think twice about going to their aid.
Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
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Inara Subaka
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Greetings fellow pod pilots.
I was born as an Amarrian, and still fly Amarr ships exclusively. However, for all of my pod pilot career I have been a part of the Freelancing movement and as a result count as many, if not more, Minmatar and Galliante pilots as good friends.
I know them to be good and brave pilots who are willing to take the fight to the foe, and put themselves in danger to help out this Amarrian when he has bitten off more then he could chew. Good loyal friends who I would not think twice about going to their aid.
Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
Public heresy? Advertising the fact you are turning your back on the Empire that granted you your license? You might as well mark your ship with the bloody smears of the Raiders and mock the Empress in Amarr Prime.
Have all the Pilot schools reduced their graduation regulations? I swear more and more Pilots like this are being released on our masses daily.
*sighs and mumbles under her breath, "Can't believe I'm doing this" before looking back to the camera*
You might go talk to the Tribal leaders of EM and UK... they are always looking for "freedom lovers" such as yourself.
Oh, and you might want to reconsider your opinion of the Ammatar, they tend to get in a huff about people not taking them seriously; something about their devotion to their god or some nonsense like that. |
Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:34:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson, I am not aware of any specific organisation of free-minded, anti-imperial Amarrians.
However, there are a number of such who regularly fight against the crusaders and their ilk. People who have joined Ushra'Khan, Electus Matari, Heretic Nation or even the Tribal Liberation force.
If you should contact any of these organisations directly they may be able to put you in contact with others.
www.ushrakhan.com
www.electusmatari.com
forum.heretic-nation.com
www.minmatar-militia.org
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:56:00 -
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Max, the best organisation for you to speak to is the Ministry of Internal Order. I'm sure that they will be able to find a suitable placement for you.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:14:00 -
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You're not alone Max. Sounds like you too have crossed the sinful line into free thought. Be careful, this may be disasterous for your soul, but it's soo worth it. ;)
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson
Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
All people are slaves, in the most strict interpretation of the word. By the definition you are using, we are not slaves. |
Stella Starsparrow
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:23:00 -
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No...you are sheep. |
Lucius Vindictus
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
Am I the only one who thinks this man leans towards his Amarrian roots in stead of the tribals like everyone else assumes? There is a vast difference between the Ammatar and the Minmatar, and he clearly inquires about the former of the two.
Max, though outwardly you show signs of serious deviant behaviour I won¦t go so far as to label you a traitor or a heretic. I say this because many of non-Amarrian decent have proven their loyalty and devotion to the empire in the past, and continue to do so even now. To me and some other pod-pilots loyal to Amarr race alone isn¦t an insurmountable obstacle. For example I myself have made friends among varying races. To quote our Empress: ôwhat you give to this empire I shall give back unto youö.
You ask about organisations that have `seen the light`. There is only one light that shines brightest in the galaxy, so of course you refer to the Amarr Empire. My ordo is one of the loyal pod-pilot driven corporations. But there are others. If you are truly interested in them you should investigate the IGS and check the backgrounds of the various groups.
I hope this has been helpful to you.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Starsparrow No...you are sheep.
Sheep are better than tribals. |
Shirley Serious
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:30:00 -
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It's perfectly possible to both be a devoted and pious member of the Faith, and yet not subscribe to the physical enslavement of others.
As the Empress herself says, there is coming a time when the chains will not be necessary.
So you see, there is, or rather will be, an organisation for Amarr pilots that have "seen the light".
And it is the Empire.
In the meantime, look for the secret stairway. |
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Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2009.01.28 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Sheep are better than tribals.
This man speaks truth. Our Sheep are greatly better than Minmitar at decontaminating the surface of Mekhios. |
Jaratsri
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.28 15:30:00 -
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Ah, another that do not think that the empire is all glorious and right.
I much the same as you am also a child raised from the depths of a fundamentally flawed empire, thinking for one self and not what years of preaching is trying to force you to think is a scary thing for many Amarrians.
I, just like Jeekin do not know of any collection or corporation of Amarr only pilots that hold the same values as you and wish to fight the current state of how things are.
I wish you well however, do not let the likes of certain individuals here make your free mind close up and hide, there have been a few corporations mentioned, if you feel like turning your guns on some of the same kind of hulls you yourself fly, I suggest you have a good look at some of them.
Have fun pilot.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
Try chatting with Mirrorgod, of the Heretics. Or, for than matter, any organization that opposes slavery, such as Ushra'Khan, Electus Matari, or the Star Fraction.
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzzi You're not alone Max. Sounds like you too have crossed the sinful line into free thought. Be careful, this may be disasterous for your soul, but it's soo worth it. ;)
Thoughts are always free traitor Kazzzi. Expressions are never free.
Try telling that boss you hate what you really think of him, and then tell me about freedom of expression. Tell your lover what you really think of that single ugly part of her body, and then tell me about freedom of expression.
Expression of thoughts has consequences, some good, some bad. Choose your expressions wisely. Once expressed one cannot call upon 'freedom of expression' to reverse the results. |
Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jaratsri Ah, another that do not think that the empire is all glorious and right.
I much the same as you am also a child raised from the depths of a fundamentally flawed empire, thinking for one self and not what years of preaching is trying to force you to think is a scary thing for many Amarrians.
Let me translate this for you: I wanted to rob and kill and take from others as I please. The rules of the Empire did not allow that, so I though 'to hell with those rules, nobody tells me what I should or should not take from others, no one can tell me when to kill or not to kill others' and I became a pirate.
As always, the sociopath seeks freedom from consequences for their horrific and selfish acts. Do not start down the same path.
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Shern
Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Starsparrow No...you are sheep.
Sheep because we do not follow the rest of the tribal flock ? That is an odd definition of us being sheep.
The Ammatar tread a very hard path, but one worth taking. |
MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.01.28 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 28/01/2009 19:45:47 I see Kade's already mentioned my merry band of blasphemers. On a personal level, Max, My father was a Khanid trader, my mother a brutor shaman. I had an...interesting...childhood. Rest assured, there's nothing wrong, and possibly everything right, with the idea of breaking free of such a disgusting and oppressive empire. As for my organization, well, of the four Kade mentioned, I'm sure you'd find ours the best window through which to vent your anger through. |
Drakonus Laerdon
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Greetings fellow pod pilots.
I was born as an Amarrian, and still fly Amarr ships exclusively. However, for all of my pod pilot career I have been a part of the Freelancing movement and as a result count as many, if not more, Minmatar and Galliante pilots as good friends.
I know them to be good and brave pilots who are willing to take the fight to the foe, and put themselves in danger to help out this Amarrian when he has bitten off more then he could chew. Good loyal friends who I would not think twice about going to their aid.
Now, I am aware of the Amatar, those Minmatar who feel that their way forward is by letting themselves be re-enslaved. So I am asking if there is a similer organisation for Amarr pilots who have 'seen the light'?
The "light" that you see are the fires of Hell as they await to claim your soul for all Eternity.
Repent, and be saved before it is too late. |
Sophie Starsparrow
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Posted - 2009.01.29 00:45:00 -
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Shern, when have the 'tribals' asked you to follow them or their beliefs? The have asked only that the Amarr stop forcing their beliefs on others. A rather reasonable request for, terrorists. The Amarrians say tribal society makes us weak, and scattered, yet you now try to portray us as flock of followers. You are so far removed from reality, you stare at things and convince yourselves they are what you believe they are, rather than using your eyes.
My sister is right. The Ammatar are sheep. You are sheep because you're need to follow is so strong, you see no other options besides following a flock. Either this one or that one, but still a flock. You are so in need of a shepherd you let the wolves have the job. Worse, you actually believe you are the wolves yourselves, but no amount of 'belief' will make a sheep a wolf any more than you will ever be true Amarrians.
Sheep can't be wolves, but they can be mutton. |
Max Godsnottlingson
Amarr Freelancing Cares Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.01.29 10:03:00 -
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It saddens me that folks are so entrenched into their own corners and seem so unwilling to move.
To the members of PIE, who have posted so many 'interesting' words, I will say this. Check my standings, they will tell all. I am held in great esteem by several Amarr factions, including the Navy. To date I have been a good little Amarrian and have sent many a Federation and Republican Navy pilot to their deaths.
Likewise, I will not be approaching any of the organizations suggested. Not out of any moral or racial issue, but because I would not insult them by turning up on their doorstep, so to speak, claiming to have 'seen the light' while I have so many of their compatriots blood still on my hands.
First I need to find a way to readdress the ballance. At the moment I do not see me at the point where I am willing to turn my guns on my fellow Amarrians, nor our missguided Caldari friends.
However I also know that may well be an unreachable goal. My 'enightenment' is anothers herasy.
I fear that I may well be starting on a long and hazardous journey. On one side those who would stop me because I have the audacity to speak out about what I now feel to be wrong, and on the other, those who rightly have no reason to trust my words.
Perhaps my first step on that path will simply be to plant the flag that other like minded, and free thinking Amarrians can rally too and see what, if anything grows from that |
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Jaratsri
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.29 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
As always, the sociopath seeks freedom from consequences for their horrific and selfish acts. Do not start down the same path.
Oh hush you boring bald man, you are probably just half the age you try to look anyways.
I do not recall me telling him to take the same path I did, nor even suggesting anything of the sort, the reasons for me doing what I do is not the subject here.
Mister Godsnottlingson, while you may not see the need to take up arms against the empire I do advice you to stay weary of your surroundings, as you say, your "enlightenment" will by many eyes be seen as deviant and downright dangerous, something that will need a swift and decisive ending.
Now however, I will need a nice drink, have not had any dealings or words exchanged about the empire in a long time and I do feel a little headache coming on from just thinking about it.
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Sophie Starsparrow
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Posted - 2009.01.29 11:54:00 -
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You have indeed started on a long, arduous journey Pilot, and I have no doubt you will find your place. Wherever it is, whatever you decide, even if it is back in the Empire, it will be your choice. A choice you thought about instead of blindly falling into. Let that knowledge give you strength.
I wish you the best. |
Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Poreuomai on 29/01/2009 14:05:39
Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Am I the only one who thinks this man leans towards his Amarrian roots in stead of the tribals like everyone else assumes?
An interesting thought.
Would such a group only have Amarr members? If so, why? If the idea is to move away from an elitist attitude of Amarr superiority, why not accept outsiders?
On the other hand, I could imagine that some Amarr want to enjoy and excersise what the see as the good aspects of their culture (the shape of their ships, the style of their clothing, the songs in their stations) without the bad aspects (slavery etc).
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 29/01/2009 14:08:54
An interesting thought.
Would such a group only have Amarr members? If so, why? If the idea is to move away from an elitist attitude of Amarr superiority, why not accept outsiders?
On the other hand, I could imagine that some Amarr want to enjoy and exercise what they see as the good aspects of their culture (the design of their ships, the style of their clothing, the songs in their stations) without the bad aspects (slavery etc).
This can be a touchy subject in our culture. I suppose it depends on the Amarrian you have in front of you. We are all individuals unlike the stereotypical view some hold about us. Anyone who admires our songs, clothing and architecture and considers those our only ægoodÆ aspects hasnÆt stopped to ask WHY they are so great. Why do we adorn our ships and objects, sing out our devotion out loud and dress the way we do? Because we are proud! We have our problems, but what other people can claim to be so united? Generally outsiders don't mingle easily amongst us because so many mock or judge us. They have an unbridled opinion based solely on the fact that we accept slavery and because we worship the one true god. They know very little about us besides that. Fortunately however there are also those who spend time among us, and open themselves to our ways. I have befriended such people and consider them close friends and often trust my life to them as if they were my kin.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.30 10:21:00 -
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It is ironic that I was saved from a life of crime by an Amarr who is a member of the sisters of eve. I know a bit about your culture and can certainly appreciate some aspects. You are however correct that I am looking in from the outside and things always look different from the inside.
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Decimus Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.01.30 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Decimus Vindictus on 30/01/2009 17:05:50
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2009.01.30 17:06:00 -
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You aren't afraid to keep an open mind. That is admirable in these times. I suppose the same can be said for me about seeing things from one side. We fight on opposite sides of the board, yet I respect that at least you have chosen to not to live a lawless existence. |
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