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Ohhh Matron
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Posted - 2009.01.30 21:21:00 -
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Its swings and roundabouts. As a UK based player when times were good I was running two accounts no problem. Now times arent so good I just cut back to one account.
Fair enough. When exchange rates go back in the ú favour I'll reactivate...maybe.
By the way if you are paying your subs by credit card them maybe look at getting a Nationwide credit card? It gives the best exchange rates and has no charges for this.
As others have said...suck it up!
Fixed rate isnt that great an idea, ask all those folks still stuck on 6% mortgage deals! I'll take variable thanks!
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Pon Icus
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.30 21:55:00 -
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6% on a fixed 30-year mortgage is actually pretty good. Specially now, considering the debacle of sub-prime and adjustable rate mortgages. Just try to get a 6% mortgage these days and see how hard it is considering the tight credit markets.
The USD has been weak for years, its nice that it's finally strengthening a little. The USD - Brazilian Real exchange rate of the past three months has given me an affordable honeymoon. :)
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Jernau Riggs
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Posted - 2009.01.30 22:04:00 -
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On a good note the UK economy is by far the strongest in europe and within a year or so we will be miles ahead again
:D
Say it 3 times and click your heels, maybe it'll be true!
seriously i'm not english but i live here and for anyone that thinks the uk's economy does not completly **** all over every other eu economy is living in dream land.
The reason the pound had dropped so much is because they had to spent billions buying up bank shares and as no one has any confidence in the banking system at the moment the pound is suffering.
However as they managed to buy up large shares of these banks for a fraction of what they are worth, in a couple of years when thinks go back to normal the uk econmy will be stronger than ever.
on the main issue
wow costs ú8.99 per month, yea fair enough it is crap ff11 costs ú8.99 per month i gave up looking, most mmorpg's don't make it easy to find that out
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Virtuous
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Posted - 2009.01.30 22:48:00 -
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It would be nice if subscribers were given the option to choose which currency (EU or USD) they want to pay in, that'd solve alot a problems for consumers.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.30 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Virtuous It would be nice if subscribers were given the option to choose which currency (EU or USD) they want to pay in, that'd solve alot a problems for consumers.
Then they would constantly rotate into the cheapest option. Nice for subscribers, not so nice for the company.
Besides, I would not take EUR/GBP parity for granted. It could break in either direction from here.
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Ohhh Matron
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Posted - 2009.01.31 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ohhh Matron on 31/01/2009 00:33:24
Originally by: Pon Icus 6% on a fixed 30-year mortgage is actually pretty good. Specially now, considering the debacle of sub-prime and adjustable rate mortgages. Just try to get a 6% mortgage these days and see how hard it is considering the tight credit markets.
Yeah but I'm now on 3.5% and all my mates on the fixed are on 6%+. Not good when youve lost your job too!
Glad you had a good honeymoon too! Congratulations.
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DownTwisTeD
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Posted - 2009.01.31 00:47:00 -
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that's what the Brits get for selling out the Commonwealth to join the eu..
only 60 yrs ago you where all at each other throats..
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2009.01.31 09:35:00 -
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Well hopefully CCP has seen this by now and read the first page of posts, and other useful ones - but not the flame.
Thanks for listening CCP! |
Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.31 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Scoper's Alt Edited by: Scoper''s Alt on 30/01/2009 17:37:07
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
Firstly, Icelanders are p*ssed at the UK GOVERNMENT for using anti-terrorist legislation to freeze assets. Basically, Gordon Brown panicked and used the first law he could to try to stop things getting worse. This was discourteous and a little silly.
People keep saying "anti terror legislation" and making some sort of unspoken comparison to the likes of the IRA, ETA, Al Qaida etc etc but that's a flawed arguement. Granted it was legislation enacted with terrorism in mind, but the specific provisions used related to anything that was a threat to the stability of the UK financial system, the UK banking system and the UK economy.
lols
The reason why Iceland were justifiably ****ed off is that they were branded terrorists.... as in - the bankruptcy of their own nation was a cunning plan to shaft the UK. Which of course it was not.
Who branded them terrorists?
Me? I didn't.
The media? I don't remember this.
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Public support for the anti-terrorist legislation, which has far eaching powers - the likes we have never seen and go a long way to erroding the Magna Carte (sp?) - was ONLY gaind by claiming that the laws would protect us from similar attrosoties as the 9/11 masacre. Your view that it is justified that these laws are in place with the "specific" objective of protecting the economy from instability, is idiotic. Whilst your opinion may reflect the fact of the matter - it doesn't make it any better.
That's not what i'm claiming.
I never said that these laws were in place with the the specific objective of protecting the economy, I said the specific *section* of this law had powers to protect the economy and financial sector from anything that threatened it's stability.
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In the same vein, any financial institution which de-stabilises the economy by being too greedy - as we have seen in the last 9 months - should also be branded terrorists.
No, because nobody is branding the icelandic banks as terrorists.
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Yes, there should be laws in place to protect us from these kind of incidents and yes, the asset freeze was the right thing (done in the wrong way) .... but our allys should not be branded terrorists in the process.
Again, nobody is calling them terrorists.
Quote: Not least because it puts them in the same box as the IRA, ETA, Al Qaida etc etc.... it is totally unacceptable to do this.
And I agree wholeheartedly, but nobody is cal... *echo* :)
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.31 11:09:00 -
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Quote: The reason the pound had dropped so much is because they had to spent billions buying up bank shares and as no one has any confidence in the banking system at the moment the pound is suffering.
However as they managed to buy up large shares of these banks for a fraction of what they are worth, in a couple of years when thinks go back to normal the uk econmy will be stronger than ever.
So how would this be any different than the rest of the world is doing? Every european country is buying their own banks. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.31 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: The reason the pound had dropped so much is because they had to spent billions buying up bank shares and as no one has any confidence in the banking system at the moment the pound is suffering.
However as they managed to buy up large shares of these banks for a fraction of what they are worth, in a couple of years when thinks go back to normal the uk econmy will be stronger than ever.
So how would this be any different than the rest of the world is doing? Every european country is buying their own banks.
Not really, and those that are aren't quite doing it on the same scale as the UK.
Offhand, I can't think of any country in the EU outside of the Benelux and Germany that has had to bail out a bank.
I'm sure there are some, but it's not quite been on the same scale.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2009.02.01 10:10:00 -
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US Currency is to be changed from Dollars and Cents to Donuts and Bagels.
i'd like to see how CCP deals with this one ^^
and yeah, eve has become insanely expensive in the UK, not good. needs a price gank tbh.
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Jagerwolf
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Posted - 2009.02.01 11:09:00 -
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The reason the pound had dropped so much is because they had to spent billions buying up bank shares and as no one has any confidence in the banking system at the moment the pound is suffering.
However as they managed to buy up large shares of these banks for a fraction of what they are worth, in a couple of years when thinks go back to normal the uk econmy will be stronger than ever.
Abracadabra and the debt is gone |
quickshot89
Caldari White Star Ltd Mjolnir Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.01 11:41:00 -
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you know, you could do what i do, and get a job, if your 18+ then its only 4 hours work per 2 month to pay for eve, i dont mind paying that bit extra atm for eve until the ecconemy sorts itself out. so to help speed that along, our government needs to change |
cpt Mark
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Posted - 2009.02.01 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: quickshot89 you know, you could do what i do, and get a job, if your 18+ then its only 4 hours work per 2 month to pay for eve, i dont mind paying that bit extra atm for eve until the ecconemy sorts itself out. so to help speed that along, our government needs to change
1) Unemployment is rising dramatically
2) Have you heard of opportunity cost? |
Adaris
Gallente E X I U S
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Posted - 2009.02.01 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Mark Hello,
Is it possible for CCP to revise ... subscription fees
At the risk of sounding like I don't understand your valid and well placed argument, I think you should pay exactly what we all pay. 15 Euro. Or its equivalent in Pounds. Or Dollars. Or Yen.
Its not a case of keeping players in the game from Britain. Its a case of if Britain is getting it for cheaper, then I might start paying in GBP instead of Euro. And ccp loses more money. And by I mean alot of people.
Same cost. Same product. Just different exchange rates.
Thanks
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I speak on behalf of every corporation. |
Morsus Argent
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Adaris Its not a case of keeping players in the game from Britain. Its a case of if Britain is getting it for cheaper, then I might start paying in GBP instead of Euro. And ccp loses more money. And by I mean alot of people.
Same cost. Same product. Just different exchange rates.
This is already the case for USD and Euros. 14.95 USD != 14.95 EUR. That doesn't mean CCP should stop taking payment in USD though.
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TigerXtrm
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Mark Edited by: cpt Mark on 30/01/2009 19:15:31 Edited by: cpt Mark on 30/01/2009 11:11:11 Hello,
Due to the GBP becoming alot weaker recently, particularly in relation to the Euro (1 - 1.1 ratio down from 1 - 1.4) subscription for the UK now costs around 13 pounds per month.
Is it possible for CCP to revise UK subscription fees to be payable in GBP too?
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The reason I ask is that many gaming companies (such as steam) have now placed their costs in GBP to UK customers so that prices remain constant to customers. Previously all games offered by steam were sold in USD.
Thanks for listening to one customer, and hopefully British people can rally behind me on this one.
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Benefits
- UK customers do not stop paying because they can't afford it
- Encourages new customers to play, while staying competitive with other MMORPG
- Ensures a happy consumer base - and keeping up-to date with the rest of the gaming industry
Creates a positive press for CCP - as British customers feel CCP are acting positively towards them. (Much like with steam offering games in GBP)
- CCP increases its international competitiveness in terms of the UK. Server costs are also decreased as the value of the pound drops - so any loss of profits may be counter-balanced.
- UK players are charged by their bank to convert GBP into Euros in order to pay. If CCP charged in GBP they could use this money to fund their server costs, and convert extra revenues in batches for a better conversion rate. Therefore either increasing profits, or making it cheaper for UK customers (who thereby don't have to pay conversion expenses)
Negatives
- CCP may take less profits for a period of around 5-6 months. However, this is indeterminable as more UK people may subscribe to the game, and less quit EVE.
- Other players may feel Britain should have to pay the same in Euros as they do. Which is in relative terms - more expensive and believe Britain must pay for America's mistakes.
Negotiation
Perhaps allow the subscription fee to be paid in GBP, but increase the cost slightly to what it would have used to be. eg/ cost in September may be 9GBP, now could charge 10 GBP, instead of 14 Euros which is around 12-13 GBP. *figures hypothetical and may not reflect actually amounts.
Some of the points made above have been raised by other players, who I wish to thank gratefully for their input.
The benefits clearly outweigh the negatives on this occasion.
Or you could buy a timecard in Dollars to begin with and be done for the cheapest solution of them all. |
Claudia Voltaire
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:49:00 -
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Not knowing the in's and out's of ccp's operating costs in the uk, reguarding costings on their server operation, one wonders if their collected dollars are buying more for less.
You have to say if their is a revolving cost involved, they will be
Either way though, with the crisis only going to get worse before it gets better anytime soon, if their are other mmo's willing to bill in local currency, new user increases will be likely to stunt in those effected areas.
People tightening their costs, warcraft or whatever at 8-9 pounds a month, eve at 15.
Double sided realy, new user drop offs, but on the other hand ccp are taking in more from their existing users as we fuel them with the strongest currency.
The only issue id have is my opening paragraph reguarding uk opperating costs, getting the best of both worlds realy doesn't sit prety. |
Kur'Dekaija
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.01 16:02:00 -
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such boo boo heads, try paying subscription with an icelandic VISA.. I win :P
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