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Sweeper23
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Posted - 2009.01.30 14:38:00 -
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Just lock onto your own wrecks and blow them up before the Ninja gets to them, everyone looses but you still win.
Carebears rule, pirates drool and ninjas are just too damn ******ed to do there own missions, while they are beng a carebear in highsec... |
Dahin
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.30 14:39:00 -
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I clearly resent the friggie not stealing one of your cans. From the looks of it you'd shoot him, and then the party would commence.
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Flossing
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Posted - 2009.01.30 14:43:00 -
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Hold on a minute. there was 3 of you in your mission. and none of you had the idea to fit a couple salvagers?
lol I don't think i need to say any more. |
Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.30 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Yashiri My name is Tchell Dahhn and I approve of this message
Don't ever do that again. I have no Alts.
Originally by: Sweeper23 Carebears rule, pirates drool and ninjas are just too damn ******ed to do there own missions, while they are beng a carebear in highsec...
You've got to be kidding me. While Ninjas and Pirates are busy playing with other players, you stupid Mission Runners are too busy playing with yourselves!
That's what Mission Running is, right? It's an MMO without the need to interact with other people.
"Look at me! I'm a big, bad Mission Runner, and I like to press a few keys, watch the non-existant NPC AI go 'poof' and collect my bounty. Oh, but don't talk to me, or even look at me, or I'll warp away and cry!"
Pft. You people make me sick.
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Insa Rexion
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.30 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus Yesterday while running a level 4 mission with a couple of guys from my corp, and after clearing the first 2 rooms, a complete stranger in a tech 1 frigate warped into our mission in the 3rd room and began salvaging all of our wrecks while we were busy fighting. He ignored conversation requests, of course, and just carried on stealing our wrecks.
was it me ?
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He didnŠt loot the wrecks, just salvaged - so there wasnŠt a thing we could do about it as itŠs not technically stealing. In the eyes of most people, however, it IS stealing.
how many ppl did you survey to come up with that little stat ?? oh wait, you mean most carebears ....
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Salvage is extremely valuable and a major source of income for any mission runner.
...and you are in error to assume it was intended as such. Salvaging was brought in as a mini profession in it's own right, not as a supplement to your already enormous income. The fact that you choose to engage in it too is a perk of mission running....not a right. Where exactly do you expect salvagers to find wrecks if not in missions, do you think CCP were advocating an increase in suicide ganks or noob can baiting to provide us with these wrecks ?
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I understand that having missions invaded is a part of the game, like it or not, but CCP if you are listening, PLEASE MAKE PEOPLE SALVAGING OTHER PEOPLES WRECKS FLAGGED AS THIEVES just as they would be if they stole loot!
That sounds like a great idea, I can't wait to see the outpouring of grief on these forums when the first MRs find their mission invaded by fleets of pvp fit ninjas ready to loot salvage and respond with force to any attempts by MRs to stop them. Of course the MRs will deny that they are responsible for the increased hazzard in mission running even tho they currently ask for salvage aggro over and over
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Sitting there working hard to kill things, watching someone else steal from you, knowing that you canŠt touch them is the most rediculous and annoying thing in this game by far. Give us the chance to at least blow them into tiny pieces for being parasetic scum. (then salvage their wrecks)
You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that eve revolves around you and other f1 f8 jockeys, allow me to relieve you of your ignorance in this matter....IT DOES NOT
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Insa Rexion
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.30 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sweeper23 Just lock onto your own wrecks and blow them up before the Ninja gets to them, everyone looses but you still win.
ahh....awesome logic |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.30 16:32:00 -
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Excuse me as I am very new to the game.
In case you don't like someone grabbing the wrecks, can't you just say your 2 friends to bump the guy forever and you salvage or even kill the wreck in his face? |
Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.30 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus
Sitting there working hard to kill things, watching someone else steal from you, knowing that you canŠt touch them is the most ridiculous and annoying thing in this game by far. Give us the chance to at least blow them into tiny pieces for being parasitic scum. (then salvage their wrecks)
Yes, I endorse this. Give the mission runners the right to blow the living bejesus out of those dastardly wreak salvage stealing people. If it's good enough for the miners and their cans then it should be good enough for the mission runners and their wreaks!
I also say we should nerf that despicable and dastardly Falcon.
************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Cadaemon
Return To Sender
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Posted - 2009.01.30 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus Salvage is extremely valuable and a major source of income for any mission runner.
Originally by: CCP Prism X If you're surprised as to why the server does not consider it your stuff, it's because it's a mini profession designed for people who want to roam and look for salvage, not to further increase the revenue from mission grinding.. I doubt anyone with a perspective thinks we need to hi-sec increase mission grinding any further.
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Poor mission bear
Also...
Originally by: Karnus Solus Sitting there working hard to kill things
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one
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low26
Caldari Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2009.01.30 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're surprised as to why the server does not consider it your stuff, it's because it's a mini profession designed for people who want to roam and look for salvage, not to further increase the revenue from mission grinding.. I doubt anyone with a perspective thinks we need to hi-sec increase mission grinding any further.
This^ They are NOT your wrecks according to CCP. Don't worry little carebear I'll come salvage your mission and I promise to loot your wreck too so you can shoot me
Please feel free to shoot at me in your CNR when I go blinky |
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Riedle
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus Yesterday while running a level 4 mission with a couple of guys from my corp, and after clearing the first 2 rooms, a complete stranger in a tech 1 frigate warped into our mission in the 3rd room and began salvaging all of our wrecks while we were busy fighting. He ignored conversation requests, of course, and just carried on stealing our wrecks. He didnŠt loot the wrecks, just salvaged - so there wasnŠt a thing we could do about it as itŠs not technically stealing. In the eyes of most people, however, it IS stealing.
Salvage is extremely valuable and a major source of income for any mission runner. I understand that having missions invaded is a part of the game, like it or not, but CCP if you are listening, PLEASE MAKE PEOPLE SALVAGING OTHER PEOPLES WRECKS FLAGGED AS THIEVES just as they would be if they stole loot!
Sitting there working hard to kill things, watching someone else steal from you, knowing that you canŠt touch them is the most rediculous and annoying thing in this game by far. Give us the chance to at least blow them into tiny pieces for being parasetic scum. (then salvage their wrecks)
Hey, i think this was me! lol, one of your guys aggroed me hoping I would fight back, but he got popped by concord so I salvaged him too. haha
classic.
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Malusae
Caldari House CHOAM Terrebellum
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle
Hey, i think this was me! lol, one of your guys aggroed me hoping I would fight back, but he got popped by concord so I salvaged him too. haha
classic.
Out of curiosity how many people do this to you?
Silly carebears that don't know anything about agression rules.
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RevJim
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:29:00 -
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I am a carebear at heart, I've done 0.0, I've been a merc, I tried mining (for a few minutes till I fell asleep) but always return to missions.
I am currently running lvl4's to gain isk (being a merc costs too much money) I'll do this for a while, till I get so bored I 'have' to change to something else.
When a salvage thief warps into my missions I tend to ignore them, considering the number of lvl4's I do I consider the odd bit of mission salvage lost to a thief an occupational hazard.
However, if they steal loot and flash red, I almost reflexively shoot them. According to my combat log 7 kills for zero losses over the past few weeks. There is a little bit of thinking involved, as they could have friends with pvp ships nearby.
As for the idea wrecks should be flaggable, I think it's a bad idea. Eve is suppposed to a slightly dangerous place.
As for the original poster...
I smell a salvage thief alt.
RevJim
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Metal Machine
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:31:00 -
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Yes, The GMs should definitely do something.....like this for example
I wish I was a 3ft doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes |
Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:38:00 -
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had this happen a few times. my response is to just finish killing whatever npc's are about and then to methodically blow up any of the wrecks the thief approaches closely enough to activate a salvager on.
the trick is to make sure he is actually activating his salvager on the wreck before it pops. this maximizes his frustration. the smack from the loser is pretty priceless too.
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Lady Aja
Caldari Hannibals Pirates Damnation of Souls
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus Yesterday while running a level 4 mission with a couple of guys from my corp, and after clearing the first 2 rooms, a complete stranger in a tech 1 frigate warped into our mission in the 3rd room and began salvaging all of our wrecks while we were busy fighting. He ignored conversation requests, of course, and just carried on stealing our wrecks. He didnŠt loot the wrecks, just salvaged - so there wasnŠt a thing we could do about it as itŠs not technically stealing. In the eyes of most people, however, it IS NOT stealing.
Salvage is extremely valuable and a major source of income for any ninja salvager. I understand that having missions invaded is a part of the game, like it or not.
Fixed... |
Salliene
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar had this happen a few times. my response is to just finish killing whatever npc's are about and then to methodically blow up any of the wrecks the thief approaches closely enough to activate a salvager on.
the trick is to make sure he is actually activating his salvager on the wreck before it pops. this maximizes his frustration. the smack from the loser is pretty priceless too.
If it took more than 60 seconds to warp away, probe, and be in the next mission salvaging THOSE wrecks then it might be frustrating, but alas, game is (once again) on the side of the "bad guys".
I love it when people start popping wrecks, then it becomes a game. If there are a bunch of wrecks clustered together then we battle it out over whether he chooses to pop the one I am about to salvage or if I got lucky and chose the wreck he wasn't targetting at the time.
Even better is when they are salvaging their own stuff and it becomes a race. The advantage is on the mission runner since they can tractor their own wrecks. Following a wreck that someone else is tractoring and then seeing that beautiful "You have successfully salvaged the wreck" or whatever is AWESOME.
I've only been doing this a week, but out of all the missions I have invaded, only one of them started popping wrecks on me, and when he saw that I wasn't going away, he stopped.
So all the little "solutions" that mission runners can come up with to stop salvage "theft" won't work in the long run.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.30 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 30/01/2009 18:52:40
Originally by: Ehranavaar the trick is to make sure he is actually activating his salvager on the wreck before it pops. this maximizes his frustration. the smack from the loser is pretty priceless too.
You must be doing this with NPC Salvagers. Everybody in our Corporation laugh at Mission Runners who do this.
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Gazur
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.01.30 19:09:00 -
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Quote: Sitting there working hard to kill things, watching someone else steal from you, knowing that you canŠt touch them is the most rediculous and annoying thing in this game by far.
Inviting you to come to low-sec to do your missions. Would solve all your current "problems". ;)
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Riedle
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Posted - 2009.01.30 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malusae
Originally by: Riedle
Hey, i think this was me! lol, one of your guys aggroed me hoping I would fight back, but he got popped by concord so I salvaged him too. haha
classic.
Out of curiosity how many people do this to you?
Silly carebears that don't know anything about agression rules.
That was the only time so far. I hope it happens more because it was funny as hell. haha |
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Riedle
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Posted - 2009.01.30 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar had this happen a few times. my response is to just finish killing whatever npc's are about and then to methodically blow up any of the wrecks the thief approaches closely enough to activate a salvager on.
the trick is to make sure he is actually activating his salvager on the wreck before it pops. this maximizes his frustration. the smack from the loser is pretty priceless too.
Really, cause I intentionally approach ALL the wrecks when people do this and grin watching them 'blow up all their own' wrecks.
I guess we are just two giggling fools then ;) |
Gin G
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.30 19:30:00 -
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I am going to give you some good advice now.
Suck it up and live with it.
OR
Learn to use scan probes and go salvage other peoples missions to make uop for your lost salvage.
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Silent Sins
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2009.01.30 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Silent Sins Salvage flagging = more dead bears. 'nuff said.
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Joshua M
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Posted - 2009.01.30 22:01:00 -
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You should bring a salvage vessel or at least fit a module. Clean up after yourself before the next room.
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Willy Pete
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.30 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 30/01/2009 18:52:40
Originally by: Ehranavaar the trick is to make sure he is actually activating his salvager on the wreck before it pops. this maximizes his frustration. the smack from the loser is pretty priceless too.
You must be doing this with NPC Salvagers. Everybody in our Corporation laugh at Mission Runners who do this.
This.
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Morsus Argent
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Posted - 2009.01.30 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv The OP's thinking is most likely that if ninja salvagers will get flagged, they will avoid ninjaing salvage. The "logic" being that, like the OP, the ninja is the kind that would rather avoid a fight.
Of course, the carebear in Eve learns that we - the ones who seek out and enjoy fights - don't think the same way.
Oh yes, they're seeking out a fight, they enjoy them and they want the aggro, that's why they... just salvage the wreck and, er... don't steal the loot...
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.30 23:29:00 -
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I hope in the near future, wormholes will open up in carebear missions and suck them in. Not only would it be funny but it would stop them blowing up their own wrecks.
Its a win/win scenario. |
Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.31 00:15:00 -
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CCP is still trying to get ingame flagging on people starting stupid threads on the same topic over and over.
meybe they'll work on the salvaging afterwards -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.31 01:08:00 -
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Jokers, I hope CCP just remove all ships from the game and just leave us with pods to fly into stars --------------------------------------------
Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you. |
Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.31 12:36:00 -
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IMHO if someone enters your mission and takes your loot you should shoot his stupid frigate and make him warp out. You can continue your mission then and if he comes back you can shoot him again and again and again.
Dont try to get him killed by NPC's by warping out, he is in a frigate, he's gonna warp out quickly and not gonna get killed.
BTW whats the system you are doing missions and what ship are you using?
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