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Yashiri
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Posted - 2009.02.01 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Yashiri My name is Tchell Dahhn and I approve of this message
Don't ever do that again. I have no Alts.
sorry dude I couldn't help it, yes to clarify I'm not an alt.
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Asuna Endorine
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:32:00 -
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i really hope i'm seeing a vocal minority here, but i see a LOT more whining and immaturity from pirates then carebears
this thread is a great example, he comes, and politely comes up with what he thinks is an issue, he may be wrong, but who exactly does the following page of insults with no actual responce help here?
btw, orginal poster, blow up your own wrecks when you see people like that, then you can either laugh, as you waste his time, or more likely, he leaves, and then you can loot in peace
eve is a game where you choose your own path, going to low sec or pvp is NOT a natural progression for EVERYONE, and noone is lame for not joining you and get ganked because they will predictably suck at pvp some people play eve to relax over a long nice high sec mining op, and why exactly is that wrong? if eve was just about pvp, like some people seem to think, there would be no high sec.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: RedSplat on 02/02/2009 00:46:38
Originally by: Asuna Endorine
/emote prepares to be flamed
OP is an incendiary post or rather his choice of language is and asks questions on issues that have been answered and addressed many times previously in extensive detail.
I guess people are just sick of the same standard whines on the same topics by posters that cant be bothered to research their questions and instead crud up C&P.
EDIT: I just read OP again, factor in poor understanding of the environment current game mechanics support as well, as far as qualities liable to make people flame his post.
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Dani SP
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:48:00 -
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this is like can fliping victims complaining. Get over it!!! Learn game mechanics and act in consequence.
There is always a risk.
Otherwise, go back to WoW. |
Djan Anaplian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.02 01:59:00 -
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A N A L INVASION |
Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.02.02 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Djan Anaplian A N A L INVASION
This thread is not your wishlist |
Djan Anaplian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.02 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Djan Anaplian A N A L INVASION
This thread is not your wishlist
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5yndr0m3
Caldari Letiferi Praedones Wong Thong Crew
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Posted - 2009.02.02 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Karnus Solus blah blah blah blah i dont know who to use the search feature in the upper right hand corner of the forum blah blah blah blah
Sometimes I wish I wast at -10. You seem like a good person to harass during your precious mission running.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Asuna Endorine btw, orginal poster, blow up your own wrecks when you see people like that, then you can either laugh, as you waste his time, or more likely, he leaves, and then you can loot in peace
I might be unique in this regard, but I highly doubt it. When a bear starts popping his own wrecks to "teach me a lesson", I can't but help and laugh at their flawed logic. I make it a point to fly to each and every wreck to make sure that they blow them all up.
What most bears fail to understand is that I play this game for the interactions with others. Making isk is secondary to that. If I'm in your mission and you get all butt-hurt and angry over it, you instantly get ALL my attention because interacting with you is what is most fun for me.
To contrast, bears only wish to be left alone in their solo version of Eve. For them, success is making more isk to buy better gear to make more isk, ad infinitum. It's no wonder that they think popping their mission wrecks is in some way harming you.
Originally by: Asuna Endorine if eve was just about pvp, like some people seem to think, there would be no high sec.
Are you assuming that high sec is a safe, PvP-free zone? Seriously? |
Jesslyn Daggererux
Gallente SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:40:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? This will be delt with. Buff Amarr. More memes.
okay now that those are all out of the way, we have 2 gm posts saying this is not an issue. this can really go 2 ways for people like me. while you should not get agro at the very same time it would almost make it more convenient. we would be able to skip a step and not have to find a wreak with loot. while i may like that sometimes, its not as it should be. it makes no sense and the gm's have explicitly stated thats not how its supposed to work. plus sometimes its fun to get a bear emoraging in local when he cant shoot. that kind of entertainment has price no tag.
remember when jet cans didnt give agro? remember how people cried, and wanted agression? notice how stealing is now one of the best and easiest ways to get agro? sometimes to kill people? think for a second you tard what your asking for before you ask for something you do not actually want. lets not be too quick to forget the 'nano' nerf that brought speed down but also hampered missiles. you have to use that gray crap between your ears and think think think about what you really want or your just going to end up crying later on. "MUH MISSILES R BORKED!!!"
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux think think think about what you really want or your just going to end up crying later on. "MUH MISSILES R BORKED!!!"
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux Can I have your stuff? This will be delt with. Buff Amarr. More memes.
Carebear Tears Fuel My ShipÖ
We're Recruiting! |
Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mithos Victus on 02/02/2009 16:14:18 I have to admit, the first few times I had a ninja zip into my L4s last summer I was quite peeved. Here was this scrubby fool in a T1 probe ship salvaging my hard earned wrecks! WTF right?
Well here's the thing, most veteran mission runners will tell ya, there comes a certain point where salvaging a mission takes longer than completing another one, even with two accounts, one completing the mission, another salvaging as you go. Depends on the mission of course.
Let's face it, any salvage that gets left behind and another salvager picks up, goes straight into the economy, benefitting us all in the way of parts for T2 construction, salvage materials for production, and refined minerals again for production.
And those ninjas who try to bait you by flipping a wreck while their fleet waits at a safe spot to warp in and pound on you, well let's face it, low security space is a crap shoot these days, it was before the speed nerf, now it's even worse.
I run through low all the time in all sorts of ships, you think I ever get caught? Last time I got caught was my own **** fault for not fitting stabs on my BS and checking starmap one the way OUT of low back into Empire. No one to blame but myself.
Half these guys, could go to low security, and spend hours waiting for targets that will never arrive. So they instead probe your mission out, flip a wreck, and cross their fingers that you fire on them and give them a moment of entertainment value.
Nothing is wrong with any of the above, in fact, after weeks and months of listening to both sides, I'm starting to resent all the people clamoring for nerfs on can flipping because it's the one guaranteed way of getting a non-dec fight in Empire. If they nerf can flippin, all those flippers are just going to start deccing, and there's already enough Empire deccers IMO, more would just be overkill.
Empire is balanced for the most part, there needs to be less incentive to stay there, and more to venture into low/null but Empire itself is fine. In fact, nerfing ninja salvagers or flippers would imbalance the game IMO. _______________________________________________
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar I might be unique in this regard, but I highly doubt it. When a bear starts popping his own wrecks to "teach me a lesson", I can't but help and laugh at their flawed logic. I make it a point to fly to each and every wreck to make sure that they blow them all up.
What most bears fail to understand is that I play this game for the interactions with others. Making isk is secondary to that. If I'm in your mission and you get all butt-hurt and angry over it, you instantly get ALL my attention because interacting with you is what is most fun for me.
I can attest to this. Sol will sit in your mission and watch you destroy all your wreaks. I have seen him do it. You have just destroyed a lot of isk and you have taken time (wasted your time?) just to make sure Sol would not get what you think are your wreaks. Sol loves it when you care enough to destroy the wreaks.
Me, I have a short attention span. You start destroying the wreaks and I will just go find another mission runner to interact with in this MMO.
************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mithos Victus Crenated Wall of Text removed
Smart man that
Not really a troll |
Fo RumChar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:04:00 -
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This is why a pilot needs kill rights on anyone that invades a mission to loot. ...........................................
THE INTERNET |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fo RumChar This is why a pilot needs kill rights on anyone that invades a mission to loot.
Not a smart man. |
Revonanist
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
What most bears fail to understand is that I play this game for the interactions with others. Making isk is secondary to that. If I'm in your mission and you get all butt-hurt and angry over it, you instantly get ALL my attention because interacting with you is what is most fun for me.
To contrast, bears only wish to be left alone in their solo version of Eve. For them, success is making more isk to buy better gear to make more isk, ad infinitum. It's no wonder that they think popping their mission wrecks is in some way harming you.
Let me get this straight, you like to interact with others by soliciting negative attention?
If you think about this, it's very very sad. Like children who behave extremely badly in order to get attention, even negative attention. The children usually become psychologically damaged adults. "Any attention is better than no attention at all." is the phrase that springs to mind.
I respectfully ask that you seek professional treatment for this mental disorder.
On the subject of wrecks, they belong to nobody (only the loot belongs to the missioner, for some reason I can't quite fathom), salvage thieves are an occupational hazard nothing more, much like the NPC's when mining, I doubt they make as much isk per hour as a dedicated mission runner and only do it for the 'lulz' (whatever the hell that means).
o/
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.02 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Revonanist Let me get this straight, you like to interact with others by soliciting negative attention?
/me looks around. Are you lost? Do you know where you parents are, little boy? Now get in the van. I have candy.
Originally by: Revonanist (only the loot belongs to the missioner, for some reason I can't quite fathom)
QFT, since you're about as deep as a puddle.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.02 19:51:00 -
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I ate a carebear once, I shat skittles for a week.
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Milla Jovo
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:06:00 -
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To the Ninga salvagers.... Half of the time I run missions I leave the salvage. I only once had a ninja salvager come into a mission. If u want to salvage a mission speak up in local chat. I'm sure there would be some one to let u salvage a mission, I would let u salvage and loot some of my missions. That prolly takes the fun out of it though.
Some times it just takes to long and I got better things to do. I mostly need the standing increase and also look for good mission ore belts anyways, and I still get the bounties and mission reward.
Really all this crying for nothing... |
Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Revonanist Let me get this straight, you like to interact with others by soliciting negative attention?
I like to interact with others. Watching people get truly upset in a video game is indeed entertaining. Grown adults throwing tantrums never seems to get old.
Originally by: Revonanist If you think about this, it's very very sad. Like children who behave extremely badly in order to get attention, even negative attention. The children usually become psychologically damaged adults. "Any attention is better than no attention at all." is the phrase that springs to mind.
I respectfully ask that you seek professional treatment for this mental disorder.
lol, Internet Psychologist. You should train your massive intellect on those who actually pitch a fit over the happenings in video games.
Originally by: Revonanist On the subject of wrecks, they belong to nobody (only the loot belongs to the missioner, for some reason I can't quite fathom), salvage thieves are an occupational hazard nothing more, much like the NPC's when mining, I doubt they make as much isk per hour as a dedicated mission runner and only do it for the 'lulz' (whatever the hell that means).
o/
I'm perfectly good with the act of salvaging making me blink red to you - hell, I'd prefer it. Salvaging nets quite a lot more isk than running missions. But you keep on thinking otherwise, mister smarty pants.
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Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 02/02/2009 00:46:38
Originally by: Asuna Endorine
/emote prepares to be flamed
OP is an incendiary post or rather his choice of language is and asks questions on issues that have been answered and addressed many times previously in extensive detail.
I guess people are just sick of the same standard whines on the same topics by posters that cant be bothered to research their questions and instead crud up C&P.
EDIT: I just read OP again, factor in poor understanding of the environment current game mechanics support as well, as far as qualities liable to make people flame his post.
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Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Revonanist
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Revonanist Let me get this straight, you like to interact with others by soliciting negative attention?
/me looks around. Are you lost? Do you know where you parents are, little boy? Now get in the van. I have candy.
Originally by: Revonanist (only the loot belongs to the missioner, for some reason I can't quite fathom)
QFT, since you're about as deep as a puddle.
Firstly, I was trying (and failing apparently) to imply that I do not think making carebears cry is exactly interacting with others, a little like stealing an old ladies handbag and running away constitutes interacting. I suppose if you are being pedantic, it could be classed as interacting. My personal preference for interacting is for positive outcomes, such as co-operating with others for greater reward, or PvP (in most of it's forms), or any number of things rather than upsetting some poor carebear who takes his internet spaceship game rather too seriously.
And the loot thing... I think the loot too should belong to no-one and be freely taken, like salvage is now. Missioning is too 'safe' for my tastes.
And yep, shallow, that's me. Especially in an internet spaceship game ;)
I suspect you get frustrated when a mission runner does not react to you, and for me (if I ran missions) would be amusing, waiting for the taunts. All because the child wants tears... see what I did there.
o/
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Revonanist I suspect you get frustrated when a mission runner does not react to you, and for me (if I ran missions) would be amusing, waiting for the taunts. All because the child wants tears... see what I did there.
I see what you did there. (It's called 'failing'.)
Believe me, if someone doesn't react to me, then that's all well and good. There are many, many more targets that will, and I just move on to them once I'm done.
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Revonanist
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sol'Kanar
lol, Internet Psychologist. You should train your massive intellect on those who actually pitch a fit over the happenings in video games.
I'm perfectly good with the act of salvaging making me blink red to you - hell, I'd prefer it. Salvaging nets quite a lot more isk than running missions. But you keep on thinking otherwise, mister smarty pants.
I agree, people getting upset over the pixels is a bit strange. Massive intellect? Hardly, just a spellchecker and some free time to waste, getting someone upset on the internet ;)
So, you're saying salvage pays? I only suspected it wasn't too profitable, due to time needed to collect decent salvage. I may have to look into this method of gaining isk. (minus the smack).
o/
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Revonanist
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
I see what you did there. (It's called 'failing'.)
Believe me, if someone doesn't react to me, then that's all well and good. There are many, many more targets that will, and I just move on to them once I'm done.
LOL!!
put 'foot' 'self' and 'shoot' into a sentence.
But I enjoy your banter.
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Robinh66
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:13:00 -
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Yeah nerf falcons.
Oh wait. |
Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Revonanist But I enjoy your banter.
o7
Always nice to meet a fan.
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Feilamya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:58:00 -
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We need a new subforum for this kind of threads... |
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