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Soulpirate Bedrock Industrial 158	Posted - 2012.07.30 05:15:00 - [541] - Quote Time to wake up to the fact they are never going to do anything with WiS EVER. Just Vapoware. Edit; They should just remove the CQ's as they are just a painfull reminder of a project that was just a half baked idea to begin with.
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 185	Posted - 2012.07.30 05:31:00 - [542] - Quote Soulpirate wrote: Time to wake up to the fact they are never going to do anything with WiS EVER. Just Vapoware. I sense there be a troll here. Would love to see your poof! Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Soulpirate Bedrock Industrial 158	Posted - 2012.07.30 05:43:00 - [543] - Quote Gevlin wrote: Soulpirate wrote: Time to wake up to the fact they are never going to do anything with WiS EVER. Just Vapoware. I sense there be a troll here. Would love to see your poof! Proof of vapoware? Is that an oxymoron?
Lost True Paradise project 1360	Posted - 2012.07.31 03:52:00 - [544] - Quote He's just lost hope, like the many others. Hard to blame for that... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 482	Posted - 2012.07.31 07:00:00 - [545] - Quote Lost True wrote: He's just lost his hope, like the many others. Hard to blame for that... There is a subtle difference between losing hope and losing patience... Those who can do something about their worries, they lose their patience and do something. Those who can't do anything about their worries, they lose their hope and quit. Unfortunately WiS appreciators are only in the position of losing hope. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 186	Posted - 2012.08.01 18:04:00 - [546] - Quote Oh come on CCP I want some WIS News either. The CSM minutes or a WIS blog I am refusing to call WIS Incarna because that is brand identification that has the summer of rage attached to including of ideals of NEX store and micro transaction, the lack of re-iteration on simple and common issues, according to players, the lagg was becoming a stronger issue inspite of gridlocks ongoing attempts. 3rd party liecencing costing 99$ fearless letter,etc Please isolate branding of Wis from Incarna and the nex store Stop referring avatars as Incarna and add ship skins, logos and FIS offer vanity items to the NEX store Almost any name will be better, even" Operation Back Stabbibg blow up doll. " would work Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 638	Posted - 2012.08.01 20:28:00 - [547] - Quote I'm assuming there's some sort of information control thing going on here where CCP wants to have a steady pace of devblog releases, rather than throwing out a massive pile of them now and then having nothing to say next month. Since WiS development is a long term, low-intensity development process and there's really nothing being released for a while, the WiS blog gets bumped down the schedule, to make way for articles which need to be released urgently as they discuss things imminently coming out in the next patch or which are available to try out on Sisi already (as the last few blogs have been). I expect it'll be out after the Inferno 1.2 release when CCP need to fill a quiet patch. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 186	Posted - 2012.08.01 22:03:00 - [548] - Quote I shall sit here and cry till then................cry Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 186	Posted - 2012.08.01 22:06:00 - [549] - Quote Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 487	Posted - 2012.08.02 06:43:00 - [550] - Quote Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent. (But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate") "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Ghazu 14	Posted - 2012.08.03 19:35:00 - [551] - Quote heh bump
Lost True Paradise project 1588	Posted - 2012.08.04 13:49:00 - [552] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent. (But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate") CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new. I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
Soulpirate Bedrock Industrial 171	Posted - 2012.08.04 15:19:00 - [553] - Quote Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I proposed such an idea in this thread. But like Lost True says, it would probably set a bad precedent. That said I would still pay AUR for that key
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 492	Posted - 2012.08.04 15:36:00 - [554] - Quote Lost True wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent. (But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate") CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new. I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013... So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force. Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted. Of course, doing that without CCP consent would be ilegal and completely against the ToS and i don't suggest doing it in any way. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 659	Posted - 2012.08.04 15:48:00 - [555] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Lost True wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent. (But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate") CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new. I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013... So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force. Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted. But then you truly are into "let's just go play Second Life" territory. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 492	Posted - 2012.08.04 15:58:00 - [556] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Lost True wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Gevlin wrote: Too bad there was not a kick starter program for wis. Allow people to put there money where their mouth is. We would find out how much push there is for wis Just a dumb idea to shoot around...... I already thought about it but probably wouldn't work; it would be a kind of a bad precedent. (But then after the CSM election, for a couple of weeks I fantasized with the idea of financing a CSM so he could travel to Iceland on my expenses -which i would ask to recover from player donations-, if CCP was willing to have a WiS-sponsored 8th guest in the CSM meeting. Was just some speculation on how to deliver a strong message and have our voice listened to, but i eventually decided that it all was a bit crazy, and also Issler misfired as a "WiS candidate") CSM is just a bunch of 0.0 pilots. I don't expect from them anything new. I've actually thought about real money investing to the WiS team. And i think i will, if my little project still be alive in summer 2013... So far, I think that there is no way that CCP changes their mind on WiS unless DUST 514 floods them with millions and they can double their staff... and maybe not even that, crowd inertia is a mighty force. Now, I've been figuring what could be done even if CCP didn't implemented WiS. Theoretically, the right people could edit the client and modify the client side of CQ code to make it load a custom made environment outside of the "door". Likely it would not be possible to create a multiplayer environment running on TQ, but they could implement a limited mutiplayer on a custom P2P network running parallel to the TQ link. This way, some players could have as much 3D environments and WiS as they wanted. But then you truly are into "let's just go play Second Life" territory. Dunno, never interested myself in that game(?). EVE already provides chances to meet with players, WiS would beef them up. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Lost True Paradise project 1588	Posted - 2012.08.05 02:17:00 - [557] - Quote EVE is a sci-fi simulator, not just space strategy... It's includes walking. In EVE, as in RL, many people blinded by constant money need. There is a lot of things that we can do in EVE. But WHAT IF you have enough ISK for the rest of the EVE's life? Well, this is impossible to do in game, because it's designed to keep the players busy(busy, not entertained). But it's possible through $>PLEX, legally. So the question is: What you will do in this game just because you LIKED IT, not just because it's has some proffit... A few things. The more real monet you spend for game the less things is there for you to do. Interesting :) Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 187	Posted - 2012.08.09 13:24:00 - [558] - Quote okay Inferno 1.3 has been released.... do we get to see a WIS dev blog soon.. the CSM minutes got super hot dropped by NDA so there was not much information in that. Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 507	Posted - 2012.08.09 13:32:00 - [559] - Quote Gevlin wrote: okay Inferno 1.3 has been released.... do we get to see a WIS dev blog soon.. the CSM minutes got super hot dropped by NDA so there was not much information in that. Short answer, we will not see any devblog anytime. Long answer: CCP Bayesian wrote: I've got bad news about the devblog we promised. It's been swallowed by the black hole of corporateness and won't be seeing the light of day for the foreseeable future. The team have been as vocal as we can about the merits of putting it out but to no avail. We're continuing to try and work out a way of showing you work we're proud of and think you will like but for now our hands are completely tied. My current guess, for what is worth, is that ETA for WiS has been delayed to 2014 as soonest and that's not granted. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 187	Posted - 2012.08.10 13:27:00 - [560] - Quote Well I guess we can talk amoungst our selves.... I was wondering if anyone would like to join me on a Podcast where we can discuss the Moving avatars Topics we would hit would be - The Creepy Gap - why did CCP decide to Jump it- (Second Geration Avatar - The importance of Realistic characters vs a Character drawing style - How much money could a person really make via Peacoks only - Ratio of Mechanics vs Graphics, What short cuts CCP as enjoyed by only rendering Space ships - what specifics did FIS zelots hate about Incarna This will be the first cast. I hope that the second ones I will get some Questions from CCP and/or Team Avatar we can discuss, or dig some issues cover in the multiple threads produced but the eve public. This podcast will provide entertainment for players and also Team Avatar, as we pretend to know what we are talking about and tell CCP how we think the direction of WIS should go, or include So we won't be covering anything covered by NDA so Bring out your tinfoil hats if you like. It is Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Lost True Paradise project 1624	Posted - 2012.08.11 11:31:00 - [561] - Quote Gevlin wrote: Well I guess we can talk amoungst our selves.... I was wondering if anyone would like to join me on a Podcast where we can discuss the Moving avatars Topics we would hit would be - The Creepy Gap - why did CCP decide to Jump it- (Second Geration Avatar - The importance of Realistic characters vs a Character drawing style - How much money could a person really make via Peacoks only - Ratio of Mechanics vs Graphics, What short cuts CCP as enjoyed by only rendering Space ships - what specifics did FIS zelots hate about Incarna This will be the first cast. I hope that the second ones I will get some Questions from CCP and/or Team Avatar we can discuss, or dig some issues cover in the multiple threads produced but the eve public. This podcast will provide entertainment for players and also Team Avatar, as we pretend to know what we are talking about and tell CCP how we think the direction of WIS should go, or include So we won't be covering anything covered by NDA so Bring out your tinfoil hats if you like. It is Sounds interesting. I can join, but my Englis isn't pefrect :) Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 187	Posted - 2012.08.13 21:46:00 - [562] - Quote Arydanika from voices from the void has offered to help with the pod cast taking on the roll of that person who does not know much about Wis I plan to do this in a couple of weeks any one else beside Lost True would like to join. One more person on top of Myself, lost true and arydanika would work well Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
oldbutfeelingyoung Perkone Caldari State 665	Posted - 2012.08.15 15:27:00 - [563] - Quote Gevlin wrote: Arydanika from voices from the void has offered to help with the pod cast taking on the roll of that person who does not know much about Wis I plan to do this in a couple of weeks any one else beside Lost True would like to join. One more person on top of Myself, lost true and arydanika would work well is there someone in that podcast ,that is a true WIShater. If yes install a counter ,on how many times the word barbie is spoken If not ,get one ,it doesn,t hurt if there is one As long they don,t come with the same crap over and over again If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision
Gevlin SMANews.net SpaceMonkey's Alliance 187	Posted - 2012.08.15 17:59:00 - [564] - Quote Good point, I know a few of those types , I will ask if they would be interested Some day I will have the internet and be able to play again.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 696	Posted - 2012.08.15 18:35:00 - [565] - Quote I'm not a WiS hater, though I'm very much against certain visions of WiS, so could be up for this. Never been on a podcast before though! Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Lost True Paradise project 1625	Posted - 2012.08.19 13:21:00 - [566] - Quote We're definitely need more poses in the character editor... Waiting for WiS for 4 years now. Discussion thread about WiS
Soulpirate Bedrock Industrial 199	Posted - 2012.08.23 17:56:00 - [567] - Quote It would apear that CCP has decided the discussion on WiS is over.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 613	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:27:00 - [568] - Quote Soulpirate wrote: It would apear that CCP has decided the discussion on WiS is over. They don't even know what they want to hear, so they couldn't care less about what we say. And whatever we say it's not going to be attendded for a couple years at least. We are expendable. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..." Seriously, Team Avatar?
Ghazu 41	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:38:00 - [569] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Soulpirate wrote: It would apear that CCP has decided the discussion on WiS is over. They don't even know what they want to hear, so they couldn't care less about what we say. And whatever we say it's not going to be attendded for a couple years at least. We are expendable. and we are winning
oldbutfeelingyoung Perkone Caldari State 676	Posted - 2012.08.24 16:18:00 - [570] - Quote Ghazu wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Soulpirate wrote: It would apear that CCP has decided the discussion on WiS is over. They don't even know what they want to hear, so they couldn't care less about what we say. And whatever we say it's not going to be attendded for a couple years at least. We are expendable. and we are winning Are you sure ? it looks like a loss for everyone here. But i guess a few trolls don,t realize that If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision

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