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Skalet
Disgruntled Postal Workers Union
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Posted - 2009.02.05 03:48:00 -
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is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
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Undeniable Existence
Caldari Questionable Practices
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Posted - 2009.02.05 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
It's true, it's not fair game!
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.05 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
Nothing suggests any exploit or hack AFAIK. Goons are not a pay-for-access alliance either. They caution against joining SA just to get into the swarm.
Fact checks ftw.
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Undeniable Existence
Caldari Questionable Practices
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Skalet is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
Nothing suggests any exploit or hack AFAIK. Goons are not a pay-for-access alliance either. They caution against joining SA just to get into the swarm.
Fact checks ftw.
alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
Nuff said
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:00:00 -
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CSM's are ELECTED. Welcome to democracy.
It's obvious that Goons are a constituency. I suspect there are CSMs that serve that constituency.
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Skalet
Disgruntled Postal Workers Union
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Skalet on 05/02/2009 04:05:13
Originally by: Liz Laser CSM's are ELECTED. Welcome to democracy.
It's obvious that Goons are a constituency. I suspect there are CSMs that serve that constituency.
you are very correct, h-i-t-l-e-r was elected too.
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:07:00 -
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But assumed far more power than the office he was elected to. |
Turix
Free Lapland The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet Edited by: Skalet on 05/02/2009 04:05:13
Originally by: Liz Laser CSM's are ELECTED. Welcome to democracy.
It's obvious that Goons are a constituency. I suspect there are CSMs that serve that constituency.
you are very correct, h-i-t-l-e-r was elected too.
Comparing Mass-Murder + Assorted War crimes to meta gaming is hardly an accurate comparison |
Lilith Order
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:09:00 -
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All the doomsdays in EvE won't stop a $15.00 alt.
All the 400 man capital fleets won't stop a $15.00 Alt
All the GTCs in Shattered Crystal and Battleclinic won't stop a $15.00 alt.
Amazing how the short for the most famous ship in EvE is HAC
Enjoy. |
rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Liz Laser CSM's are ELECTED. Welcome to democracy.
It's obvious that Goons are a constituency. I suspect there are CSMs that serve that constituency.
This is why democracy doesnt work. If you let morons vote, they will vote for morons, because the majority of human beings on this planet are morons.
oh well I guess, its entertaining. |
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:22:00 -
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Don't conflate scamming and stealing with hacking and exploiting. The first two are explicitly condoned by CCP, while the latter two are EULA violations. Listing them all together in the same breath and accusing Goonswarm of partaking in such shouldn't be done without evidence. Mocking the game and scamming people has nothing at all to do with EULA violations.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:25:00 -
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Quit whining. BoB is dead, espionage and underhanded stuff have always been a critical part of EVE.
Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 05/02/2009 04:28:39
There is nothing wrong with enlisting spies. BoB director defects to GoonSwarm and hands them BoB's reputation on a platter.
Unless there is something that we haven't been told about it sounds like fair play to me.
I am not a fan of the Goons, but I have to congratulate them on capitalizing on this opportunity.
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:29:00 -
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I am not a big fan of the "Goon Antics" but, what exactly did he do? And, yes, I hated, and still do, his proposal for musical instruments in EVE, still makes me roll my eyes - yet, what exactly did he do? And, I certainly am not a fan of what Goons do, or stand for, yet, just because I may dislike Goons I do not go accusing them of exploiting without any proof. So, do you know of any exploits he has participated in, any hacks perpetrated?
This is a second time I see baseless accusations and innuendo flying about these forums, do you suppose it adds validity and justification to your point of disliking the Goons and Darius if you accuse them of exploiting?
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 05/02/2009 04:33:51
Originally by: Ki Tarra Edited by: Ki Tarra on 05/02/2009 04:28:39
There is nothing wrong with enlisting spies. BoB director defects to GoonSwarm and hands them BoB's reputation on a platter.
Unless there is something that we haven't been told about it sounds like fair play to me.
I am not a fan of the Goons, but I have to congratulate them on capitalizing on this opportunity.
This is basically what I'm feeling, although tbh I hope that the high level spies BoB almost certainly has in Goonswarm take this time to spring whatever anti-Goon contingency plan that Molle had in the event of BoB's impending defeat. Chaos and treachery begetting more chaos and treachery. Lovely.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:36:00 -
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OP title can't even spell goonswarm correctly.
There is no reason for Darius not to serve. Democracy does work so long as it is applied well. When democracy becomes almost a farce like it is in the United States these days then does it serve the people poorly. (For example more people ran in free and fair elections in Iraq for fewer positions this past month than ran in the United States for more positions at the same level in what is essentially a one party system disquised as two).
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
You are aware that this is exactly how bob killed ascn, ascn's titan, various other titans and alliances.one thing they loved to take part in was to pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.02.05 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet
you are very correct, h-i-t-l-e-r was elected too.
and your point is...? |
Verx Interis
Amarr Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.02.05 06:06:00 -
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I just want to see Istvaan Shogatsu top this.
Good luck dude. ---- Logins required for this post: 257683 |
Sythyss
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2009.02.05 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet is it right you think to have people such as Darius being CSM, supposedly making the game better while metagaming, exploiting, hacking their way into universal power?
yes , I am a nobody, but I would think that a CSM would be someone that is there to make the game better as a whole, not be a part of a pay your way in alliance that openly mocks the game, thru exploits, hack, and metagaming.
what? spies in MY eve?! NOWAI!!!
...but seriously...this is part of eve. man up, or get lost
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Lazyeye Larry
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:16:00 -
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From the MP3 that's out this seems to have been some bored jerk director in BoB giving up on them and pretty much offering to the Goons to do this along with other stuff. Had the Goons planned this, then yeah it would have been totally epic. But some guy just getting bored with his alliance while having the level of access he had? That's just sad, not epic at all.
No respect to the guy that did it or the Goons tbh, but from what I've seen there was no CSM abuse or hacking at work here, just one dude and some excruciatingly bad trust decisions on BoB's part. |
rubico1337
Caldari nefarious badgers inc
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet Edited by: Skalet on 05/02/2009 04:05:13
Originally by: Liz Laser CSM's are ELECTED. Welcome to democracy.
It's obvious that Goons are a constituency. I suspect there are CSMs that serve that constituency.
you are very correct, h-i-t-l-e-r was elected too.
godwinned on the 6th post
*golfclap* to OP |
Illiya
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:27:00 -
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confirming that i hacked bob |
LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:31:00 -
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The op is a giant troll, in case you didn't notice guys |
Tibi
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:43:00 -
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Yes and you just got trolled :))
T. |
Mobil Goding
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:45:00 -
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The fact that they introduced a democratic process in a game that does not have an ounce of democracy attributed to the way things work is just fail on an epic scale. The CSM bit was created to try to silence the masses.
I think its a tragedy that the CSM exist, and even more so that Goonswarm got a voice in this failure of an organisation. The Goonswarm is not here to make the game any better at all. To have someone in a position of a group that claims they are there to make the game better is just .. so much hypocracy and pure crap.
Was BOB evil, bad and generally not good for the game? Well, perhaps they were and perhaps they were not, but cheering their demise and raising Goonswarm to the skies is just so much fail. Goonswarm is everybit as bad as BOB was, if not worse. They have basically no redeeming qualities.
And now with BOB gone, will things be better? Uh, no. Check again. Hopefully WASTELAND will be able to take up the position BOB had without too much fuss, thus stopping the Goonswarm from trying to grab something they should never be allowed to have.
Yes, never be allowed to have. Because if Goonswarm is allowed to have more then they have now, the game will truly turn to brown neon goo, and we will no doubt start to see people looking towards other games. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 05/02/2009 07:52:48
Originally by: Mobil Goding The fact that they introduced a democratic process in a game that does not have an ounce of democracy attributed to the way things work is just fail on an epic scale. The CSM bit was created to try to silence the masses.
I think its a tragedy that the CSM exist, and even more so that Goonswarm got a voice in this failure of an organisation. The Goonswarm is not here to make the game any better at all. To have someone in a position of a group that claims they are there to make the game better is just .. so much hypocracy and pure crap.
Was BOB evil, bad and generally not good for the game? Well, perhaps they were and perhaps they were not, but cheering their demise and raising Goonswarm to the skies is just so much fail. Goonswarm is everybit as bad as BOB was, if not worse. They have basically no redeeming qualities.
And now with BOB gone, will things be better? Uh, no. Check again. Hopefully WASTELAND will be able to take up the position BOB had without too much fuss, thus stopping the Goonswarm from trying to grab something they should never be allowed to have.
Yes, never be allowed to have. Because if Goonswarm is allowed to have more then they have now, the game will truly turn to brown neon goo, and we will no doubt start to see people looking towards other games.
well then goons will have ruined eve (which they long ago stated was their goal).
it's really nothing more than a bragging right to them, badge on their shoulder. the stunt was EPIC sure, but not much more than a cheap laugh in place of actually being able to accomplish something with organization and hard work.
hell, they didn't even accomplish it, some disgruntled guy did, but they will happily take the credit.
but sure, give em mad props and kiss their arses. well, you dont need to really, they will take care of that with their alt spam
funny thing is, as much as i hate goons, i hate bob. this really isn't the eve it was when i started years ago. being proud of / enjoying something like this just seems cheap like entering a cheat code when you couldn't beat a level
<insert "bitter much?" "your poasting is terrible" "we won eve, get over it" " bob will save you"
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Navtiqes
Englebarna
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Navtiqes on 05/02/2009 07:57:29
Originally by: Skalet ...and metagaming.
Define metagame, because as far as I can tell it's player politics, forum wars, spying etc. And without it there would be no point in playing. |
Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:41:00 -
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game cant be better ever, if the whole head from the top down is bad.
ccp allow it, and take no action over anything in eve. except someting done illegally in real life (hacking)
so never gonna change.
in the end your left with alot of ****ed off people who will quit and less money for ccp...so go ccp you win.
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Sturdy Girl
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Skalet you are very correct, h-i-t-l-e-r was elected too.
Please refer to Godwins Law and shut the hell up. Thanks.
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