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Lilith Order
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:13:00 -
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I can give as many people as I want Director. Only a CEO can disband.
How is it not an exploit to close out an alliance?
You can remove corps, steal them blind but how do you close out the alliance without the executive CEO signing off? |
eFart
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:17:00 -
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metasploit
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Eddie Smurphy
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:36:00 -
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One way is taking out all the moneh from corp/alliance wallet and then not paying bills when due... |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:37:00 -
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CCP seeing the utter stagnation the 2 front war was bringing to nullsec decided to activate thier 'Sleeper' agents in BoB to take them out and pave the way for lots of shiney pr for the new retail box subscribers about how eve has unlimited space to stake your claim and rule the galaxy. Couldn't really honestly make that promise if all of nullsec is taken after all. /tinfoil |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Order I can give as many people as I want Director. Only a CEO can disband.
How is it not an exploit to close out an alliance?
You can remove corps, steal them blind but how do you close out the alliance without the executive CEO signing off?
Bolding the relevant part. From what I understand, he just kicked out all the corps from BOB, starting removing people in his own corp without roles, and stripping the roles from everyone else.
Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:51:00 -
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bob had grown too arrogant for their own good.
Also finfleet? come on.
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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CHAOS100
Widowmakers
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Posted - 2009.02.05 05:04:00 -
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the director logs in the director in the executive corporation, kicks out all corps, then kicks out own corp. no ceo needed. --------------
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Lilith Order
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:40:00 -
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These are all good explanations on how you destroy an alliance but not how you close an alliance.
Many Alliances in EvE are 1 man, 1 corp Alliances that will never hold Sov. They aren't closed, like a corp is closed by the CEO because the CEO of the Executor corp is the only one that can officially close the Executor corp or Alliance. |
Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:43:00 -
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When the last corp leaves the alliance, there is no alliance, and it's closed.
/Riv |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:47:00 -
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My understanding is that the guy who did it (Haargoth Agamar) was a director with the power to kick corporations from the Alliance. Only the CEO of the executor corporation can disband an alliance that exists, but the alliance needs to consist of more than one corporation.
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LordSwift
Unus Somnium Inc
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:58:00 -
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they will be back. Under a different name. but they will be back
Join the brown Coats today!!! |
Paul Potthaesslich
eXceeded
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Posted - 2009.02.05 12:06:00 -
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seriously, this metagaming sucks ... why dont they call the game Betrayal-Online or Exploit-Online.
On the otherside, interesting times are ahead, this static gbc vs nc/goon blob has to be broken, and 0.0 has to become a hello-carebear paradise.
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.02.05 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Paul Potthaesslich seriously, this metagaming sucks ... why dont they call the game Betrayal-Online or Exploit-Online.
It's more fun if people find out the hard way. |
Lilith Order
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Order on 05/02/2009 15:09:24
Originally by: Paul Potthaesslich seriously, this metagaming sucks ... why dont they call the game Betrayal-Online or Exploit-Online.
On the otherside, interesting times are ahead, this static gbc vs nc/goon blob has to be broken, and 0.0 has to become a hello-carebear paradise.
I agree whole heartedly.
I've never made my intentions unclear. I am here to exact genocide on the -A- alliance. One ship at a time, one POS at a time, One system at a Time, One corp at a time. I will hunt them to extinction. I will never hack thier alliance. I will never 'meta bomb' them. It's stunning how CCP can allow this sort of thing to occur, in a game. A Game. It's fraud. CCP asked for video's on how EvE shapes our RL business lives. Maybe they should be asking to see if Bernard Madoff plays EvE because thus far, 'success' in EvE is lie, cheat, steal and defraud whole groups of people out of hours, months, years of game time. I keep a very tight corp. hence, my failure in EvE. I'm nobody and I never will be. Alternative? BoB. Alternative? IAC. Be frauded out of it all by skum. **** that. Is EvE in Iceland or Nigeria? |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Order
Originally by: Paul Potthaesslich seriously, this metagaming sucks ... why dont they call the game Betrayal-Online or Exploit-Online.
On the otherside, interesting times are ahead, this static gbc vs nc/goon blob has to be broken, and 0.0 has to become a hello-carebear paradise.
I agree whole heartedly.
I've never made my intentions unclear. I am here to exact genocide on the -A- alliance. One ship at a time, one POS at a time, One system at a Time, One corp at a time. I will hunt them to extinction. I will never hack thier alliance. I will never 'meta bomb' them. It's stunning how CCP can allow this sort of thing to occur, in a game. A Game. It's fraud. CCP asked for video's on how EvE shapes our RL business lives. Maybe they should be asking to see if Bernard Madoff plays EvE because thus far, 'success' in EvE islie, cheat, steal and defraud who groups of people out of hours, months, years of game time. I keep a very tight corp. hence, my failure in EvE. I'm nobody and I never will be. Alternative? BoB. Alternative? IAC. Be frauded out of it all by skum. **** that. Is EvE in Iceland or Nigeria?
Moral ambiguity is what makes EVE interesting. This isn't going to be changed and the game is better because of it. I hear in WOW you get banned if you scam people and the guy you scammed gets all his stuff back. There is not much value in trust, if you don't have the option of betrayal, lying and scaming.
You failure, if any, is accepting the current tools of organisation management. What you should be asking is tools to help manage a large organisation. Think what you would require and make a suggestion to implement those options. You also have the option of being a dictator and not trusting others with power. If you decide to risk trusting people you are left vulnerable, but you spread the workload and the responsibility around.
As you said "I keep a very tight corp. hence, my failure in EvE." You don't take risks and you will have a harder time doing things as a result, but you are(think you are) well protected from betrayal. |
permion
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:50:00 -
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You can always think of all the people and corps any alliance has to step on to get where it is. Every alliance people would recognize is guilty of metagaming there are no exceptions. |
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