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Cassandra B
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Posted - 2009.02.06 07:45:00 -
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I know this has probably been asked a million times, but Ive just come back from a years break of EVE.
I was excited and lucky to get AE on my return (I believe it was still out of game when i left :P) (level 4) ...now ive done it, and wasnt going to attempt bonus room becuase i never soloed it but now i really really wanna give it a go.
Here is my setup... can i do it? Caldari Navy Raven
7* Caldari Navy/Dread Gurista Crusie missile launchers 2 * Pith A-type ballistic Defflection field Ptih X-Type Explosion Dampening Field Dread Guristas Invulnerabilty Shield Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Dread Gurista shield boost amplifier
caldari navy ballistic control system Ballistic control system tech 2 3*Power Diagnostic systems tech2
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Terminus Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.02.06 07:54:00 -
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Sounds like you might be able to. Depends on your skills of course, but the ship setup's pretty solid. Make sure you follow the guide (i.e. take out the cruise missiles launchers first, then the turret IIIs, then everything else). Just in case get aligned to warp out as soon as you warp in and take out the scram frigs after the turrets.
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Killshot DeathBunny
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Posted - 2009.02.06 15:24:00 -
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I've done this twice in the last week with a similar setup, I still needed to warp out once on the first try, and the second time something changed and I had to warp out 2 times before I figured it out. I did both with the same setup and same plan of attack.
There is a chance that some of the ships will be fit for EM damage, they pounded me hard until I switched to Omni on the second run. |
rubico1337
Caldari nefarious badgers inc
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Posted - 2009.02.06 16:40:00 -
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i found it to be pretty easy with specific hardeners in a drake
Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener |
Dracthera
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Posted - 2009.02.06 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337 i found it to be pretty easy with specific hardeners in a drake
I agree, it's easier to do in an active Drake/NH than it is in a Ravenkind simply because of the lower signature radius.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.02.06 17:25:00 -
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that's a nice little setup ya got. _______________ <Q> QUANT Hegemony Item Database
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greengimp7
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Posted - 2009.02.06 20:16:00 -
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you are more than able to do it, just as soon as you enter the room turn your ships around and kill the cruise launcher and angel III batteries then work you way through the ship, I only run a 450 dps tank and i don't have to jump out on the bonus room, you should have no trouble. |
Grods
Amarr The Lone Wolves Security
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Posted - 2009.02.06 20:25:00 -
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Ofc, its well soloable in most t1 fitted battleships.
But to be honest, you can lose even that overtanked ship there if you are doing it wrong. |
Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.06 21:39:00 -
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I'm not familiar enough with CNR setups to comment on the setup, but as for doing the level: Why would you want to? The chance of faction loot is now zero, and its just a heap of not particularly well paying BS.
Leave it and move on, would be my sugestion.
Ingame: Channels&Mailing lists>Channels>Join>PVE>OK |
TrevHead
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.02.06 22:01:00 -
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Ive done the room a few times with eather a raven or a drake and had no difficulties. Its been about 9 months since ive last done the mission so the devs could of altered to difficulty since then.
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Grods
Amarr The Lone Wolves Security
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Posted - 2009.02.06 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tranka Verrane I'm not familiar enough with CNR setups to comment on the setup, but as for doing the level: Why would you want to? The chance of faction loot is now zero, and its just a heap of not particularly well paying BS.
Leave it and move on, would be my sugestion.
Well duh!
Nothing supersizes your eepeen like being able to tank it out in your pimp faction battleship with 5b worth of fittings.
No srsly, its more salvage :)
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Irdia Freelancer
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:13:00 -
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The bonus room etc was discussed weeks back. Killing the bonus room gives more bounties/salv plus there is a chance of faction drop be it very small (I've never had one). Someone said that AE4 including bonus was about 90 mil worth, and thats about what I calculated when I looked at it carefully. But then I'm getting about 27 mil worth of lp from it. If your working missions at some rubbish conversion of lp->isk your return will be less. If you not salvaging and looting, less return. If not doing the bonus room then less return. Initially it was taking me close on 3 hours to complete (single char), now its closer to an hour as my skills have trained higher plus I've got more organised (now have a salvaging support char in a domi expanded to 3286 mtr cargo space)
My abaddon didn't have enough gank or tank to do the bonus room. Then again I started doing AE4 about 6 weeks after creation of this my first real char. I spent a week training passive shield skills and my apoc navy can do the front pockets a little slower than my abaddon could, but it can easily tank the bonus pocket with just 1 invul module running in omni-tank mode. Both the navy Apoc/mega battleships can semi-passive tank better than a drake, much better than a drake actually. Since passively tanking kills cap you need cap free weapons so min guns or missiles work. Apoc/megas dont use missiles so min guns work fine. I use the shield tanked apoc where my abaddon doesn't work so well - like heavy neut missions like blockade bloodraiders which has had as many as 9 ships draining my cap which would kill my abaddon.
I will continue to train the passive tank a bit more, and then try some high-sec lvl 5's (which are known for lots of neut towers etc). Fully trained the apoc/mega can tank passively tank over 2100 dps (quite a bit more than a drake). It may not be fast, but that amount of tank should handle many lvl 5's. If I lose a few apoc navy's it wont worry me as I picked up 4 spares recently. If a new player can do lvl 5's in a T1 Amarr ship, what does it say about those saying it cant be done?
I've been told by many that amarr shield tanking doesn't work. It works for me where I need more tank as my gank skills too low. Its a fairly cheap on skills way for newer players to survive missions that might otherwise kill them. |
Cassandra B
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Posted - 2009.02.07 03:18:00 -
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Well, I tried it about an hour before downtime last night.. and i dit it =D had to warp out once, when i nearly had killed all the batteries etc, Prob didtn need to, just i was really nervous, being my first mission since ive come back.
But i did it, i had aligned and forgot to stop my ship once i was far enough away, so i ended up some 150km away from the re spawn once i realized. this meant that i didn't have enough time to loot anything before downtime, including the structure... which was a little disappointing. But i got a few mill from bounties so it was still well worth it.
for me the opportunity of faction loot is always exciting, but its more worth it for the bounty's.
But basically, yes i could do it, might fit a second invulnerability shield next time and drop a kinetic, just for some extra EM resistance, might even look at getting another named one first. But my next step will to be to try it all in one go... looks good so far =D
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.02.07 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Luckner on 07/02/2009 10:22:23 Is this some kind of strange request for a suicide gank ? However, if your skills match the quality of your setup, AE Bonusroom should be no problem. I would only substitute one of the ballistic hardeners with an thermal one, since the sentries do therm damage. Alternative: get in a Golem, the native therm resistance is more then capable of handling it. |
Amber Coldheart
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.07 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Luckner
Alternative: get in a Golem, the native therm resistance is more then capable of handling it.
My semi faction fit Golem doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell to do the AE bonus room (without multiple warpouts) :)
Maybe because i use torpedoes that limit my range (55'ish km's). In my cruise Rattlesnake, i do it without breaking a sweat.
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Leandro Salazar
Better Dead Then Smeg
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Posted - 2009.02.07 13:13:00 -
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Yup, AE bonus room is about the only mission I am aware of where torp Golem equals epic fail, since you just cannot get your dps on them fast enough due to range. And since torp Golem is epic win in the 5 rooms before, and I don't care to come back in an different ship just for the bonus room, I don't do it at all. Of course you could fit your torp Golem to be able to do the bonus room too, but that would compromise its performance in the other rooms (or require ungodly amounts of isk) and thus be counter-productive. |
Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.07 14:37:00 -
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Mmmm, did the AE Bonus in my Torp-Golem with 2 Pithis(B) and T2 Hardeners/Boost Amplifiers several times without warping out. Ok, for AE-Bonus i fit only 1 TP and i have a Crystalset. With a Pithum A-Booster its doable without Hardwirings.
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Love Denied
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.02.07 22:39:00 -
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torp golem 2 amps 2 invuls 1 em 1 atype medium shield gets to around 50% before i kill of enough dps i align straight towards the towers the second i enter |
v00d003
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Posted - 2009.02.09 05:46:00 -
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Edited by: v00d003 on 09/02/2009 05:46:44 I've done this room with a raven and a Golem. In my raven I align then burn to get some distance.Takes a little longer but its a proven tactic. I have a crystal set and used dual pithi boosters. In my Golem I sit and wait, melt everything that comes through the gate. I swear the last time I did it,it took forever for the third spawn to come through, or it seemed that way at least. I had a image in my head they were on the other side debating who was going to go through first lol. Anyway the key is to kill as fast as you can so you don't have to kill more than one spawn at a time. |
Terminus Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.02.09 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: v00d003 Edited by: v00d003 on 09/02/2009 05:46:44 In my Golem I sit and wait, melt everything that comes through the gate. I swear the last time I did it,it took forever for the third spawn to come through, or it seemed that way at least. I had a image in my head they were on the other side debating who was going to go through first lol. Anyway the key is to kill as fast as you can so you don't have to kill more than one spawn at a time.
You're confusing the AE bonus room with EA4 5/5. There are no gates inside the AE bonus room, and only one additional spawn.
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Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.09 14:49:00 -
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Depending on your skills, yes certainly, or no not possble.
It depends did you have much trouble with the previous rooms? If not and you where easily able to do these then you should be able to handle the bonus room. If you had to warp out several times before, don't bother with the bonus room you are just going to loose your ship.
------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
v00d003
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Originally by: v00d003 Edited by: v00d003 on 09/02/2009 05:46:44 In my Golem I sit and wait, melt everything that comes through the gate. I swear the last time I did it,it took forever for the third spawn to come through, or it seemed that way at least. I had a image in my head they were on the other side debating who was going to go through first lol. Anyway the key is to kill as fast as you can so you don't have to kill more than one spawn at a time.
You're confusing the AE bonus room with EA4 5/5. There are no gates inside the AE bonus room, and only one additional spawn.
yup your right....Bonus room is a bit harder, so hopefully he/she gets the point
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Karan Kaldarian
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.13 00:17:00 -
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I complete AE bonus Room in my Nighthawk withouth any problem. I take care first of those small web/scrambler frigates just to be sure if sthing goes wrong. I stay aligned and at afterburner speed. The Cnr it's not really fast and you'll be surrounded in few seconds by those Vipers. Be sure you do not need to warp out....
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.13 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Coldheart
Originally by: Karl Luckner
Alternative: get in a Golem, the native therm resistance is more then capable of handling it.
My semi faction fit Golem doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell to do the AE bonus room (without multiple warpouts) :)
Maybe because i use torpedoes that limit my range (55'ish km's). In my cruise Rattlesnake, i do it without breaking a sweat.
This is why I have my alt standing by in an Orca with all relevants mods
Apoctasy > unfortunately, Concord does not reimburse citizens for their own stupidity
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LiBraga
Killjoy.
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Posted - 2009.02.13 12:25:00 -
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I've ran it many times in a standard T2 fit Ishtar. Just fly away from the rats when you exit warp, deploy light t2 drones and kill the frigs when they get close and then use heavy t2 drones on everything else. Sometimes I even run it semi-afk, looting and salvaging with my 2nd account. Haven't had a faction drop in the last 30 times though :( --------------- What! Caldari have dps now... noooo Aye, T2 HAMs FTW!!!!! |
rubico1337
Caldari nefarious badgers inc
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Posted - 2009.02.14 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen Edited by: Gul Rashen on 07/02/2009 14:59:46 Mmmm, did the AE Bonus in my Torp-Golem with 2 Pithis(B) and T2 Hardeners/Boost Amplifiers several times without warping out. Ok, for AE-Bonus i fit only 1 TP and i have a Crystalset. With a Pithum A-Booster its doable without Hardwirings.
thats probably why
Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener |
Amber Coldheart
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.14 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise
This is why I have my alt standing by in an Orca with all relevants mods
hehe, that'll work, yes :)
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Noemi Nagano
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Posted - 2009.02.14 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Irdia Freelancer
My abaddon didn't have enough gank or tank to do the bonus room. Then again I started doing AE4 about 6 weeks after creation of this my first real char. I spent a week training passive shield skills and my apoc navy can do the front pockets a little slower than my abaddon could, but it can easily tank the bonus pocket with just 1 invul module running in omni-tank mode. Both the navy Apoc/mega battleships can semi-passive tank better than a drake, much better than a drake actually. Since passively tanking kills cap you need cap free weapons so min guns or missiles work. Apoc/megas dont use missiles so min guns work fine. I use the shield tanked apoc where my abaddon doesn't work so well - like heavy neut missions like blockade bloodraiders which has had as many as 9 ships draining my cap which would kill my abaddon.
I will continue to train the passive tank a bit more, and then try some high-sec lvl 5's (which are known for lots of neut towers etc). Fully trained the apoc/mega can tank passively tank over 2100 dps (quite a bit more than a drake). It may not be fast, but that amount of tank should handle many lvl 5's. If I lose a few apoc navy's it wont worry me as I picked up 4 spares recently. If a new player can do lvl 5's in a T1 Amarr ship, what does it say about those saying it cant be done?
I would like to know how you will get a 2100 dps tank on an apoc, since I failed to get something like that - at least with full passive shieldtank. Thanks in advance .. |
Clapped Out
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Posted - 2009.02.15 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: Clapped Out on 15/02/2009 12:43:03
I used to do AE bonus room in raven, with no problems and not having to warp out, so a cnr should have no problem.
not quiet sure why some are having problems. only thing i can think of is that they are taking things out in wrong order or springing the trigger, for the 2nd wave. Or of course they dont have good enough skills.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.15 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Clapped Out Taking out things in bad order.ie triggering the 2nd wave.
Or killing the wrong things first. Should really take note of what ship that does what damage, then you can fit more tank vs the rest and 'prolong' your tanking.
Another keynote is probably some people run their permatank setups, that doesn't burst tank enough for the initial spanking. They will do fine when things come in waves, but a X-L/booster setup (or single LAR/Aux nano combination) will work better vs heavy loads.
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