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Lijhal
Pretty Good Piracy
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:16:00 -
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i can confirm this
on sisi, in your attribute tab, you can move almost all points from one to another attributes
every 6 (six) months you can do it, costs 5m isk
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:23:00 -
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It's a rubbish idea.
If they want everyone to train their skills at the same rate, they might as well do away with stats completely. |
Emorius
Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:27:00 -
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Whats the limitation on the distribution? Is there a max total points you can remove and re=apply to another stat? For example if you have 15 charisma, can you take 14 out, and put 14 in perception to give you like 40 perception? Or is limited to say 5 total points you can take out, from anyone, and put it back to any stat, with a maximum 3 in each stat, like you have when you create your character?
Anyways awesome idea, just wondering what exactly can you do with the respec. |
Dani SP
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dani SP on 09/02/2009 16:50:50
Originally by: Pestilent Industries I am not sure how I would change my existing attributes to be honest. I think I did a very good job and building a character.
Here are my current attributes with my +3 implants:
Intelligence( 10 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 24.20 Perception( 10 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 24.20 Charisma( 6 base + 7 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 17.60 Willpower( 7 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 20.90 Memory( 6 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 19.80
I guess I will just remove everything from Charisma for now as I don't need it for anything I plan on training for the next year or more. So out of my 13 CHR points, I will allocate 2 to Memory, 1 to Willpower, and 5 to Perception & Intelligence.
dude I love your attributes. They are like perfect :D but you lack of charisma... lol j/k
I would maybe add some memory. Try +4 mem implant to be it like willpower.
Originally by: Emorius Whats the limitation on the distribution? Is there a max total points you can remove and re=apply to another stat? For example if you have 15 charisma, can you take 14 out, and put 14 in perception to give you like 40 perception? Or is limited to say 5 total points you can take out, from anyone, and put it back to any stat, with a maximum 3 in each stat, like you have when you create your character?
Anyways awesome idea, just wondering what exactly can you do with the respec.
I think you can re-distribute the 5 free points you add on the character creation screen (after choosing the bloodline). Like if you had set +3int and +2per... you can change that and ser +2int +2wil and +1mem (for example)
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Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:55:00 -
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I think I just heard a blood curdleing scream come from the folks at EVEmon and EVEHQ because now they have to rig their programs to show you optimal Stat changes for your plan!
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Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:13:00 -
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So basically Stupid Eve Players can now undo their stupid mistakes?
They might as well do away with the character attributes all together and have every skill train at the same rate on each level.
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KaarBaak
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Valda So basically Stupid Eve Players can now undo their stupid mistakes?
They might as well do away with the character attributes all together and have every skill train at the same rate on each level.
QFE.
I agree that this seems to be changing a gameplay mechanic, and so should be a concern amongst all players. If the purpose is to "correct a speccing mistake" by players when they created their first pilot, then it should be a 'once per pilot' allowance.
KB
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Pestilent Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.09 18:44:00 -
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You can distribute ALL of your base attributes, but you can not lower any one attribute lower than 5, nor can you reassign your learning skills.
Intelligence( 10 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 24.20 Perception( 10 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 24.20 Charisma( 6 base + 7 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 17.60 Willpower( 7 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 20.90 Memory( 6 base + 9 skills + 3 ) * 1.10 = 19.80
So with what I have above I can remove only 1 point from charisma which I will assign to memory and get a +4 implant for memory & willpower so that they round up to 22.00. |
Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pestilent Industries You can distribute ALL of your base attributes, but you can not lower any one attribute lower than 5, nor can you reassign your learning skills.
ok how does that work with the following races? Achura (cha 3) Civire (memory 4) Amarr Amarr (cha 3 and per 4) Khanid (mem4) Ni Kunni (will 4) Vherokior will3 per 4) Brutor (Int mem 4) Intaki (per 3) Gallente (Mem and will 4)
does that mean that when we log into the game the first day we get auto docked 5mil ISK and are auto booted to the "Respec character screen" because all of our stats now have to be the base of 5?
or are we going to be forced to put the points into the low stats when we reset them?
oh and by the way where are the daily threads asking for a respec as radical as this?
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Puk Jinn
Tempestas Oriens Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:33:00 -
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Quote: ok how does that work with the following races? Achura (cha 3) Civire (memory 4) Amarr Amarr (cha 3 and per 4) Khanid (mem4) Ni Kunni (will 4) Vherokior will3 per 4) Brutor (Int mem 4) Intaki (per 3) Gallente (Mem and will 4) does that mean that when we log into the game the first day we get auto docked 5mil ISK and are auto booted to the "Respec character screen" because all of our stats now have to be the base of 5? or are we going to be forced to put the points into the low stats when we reset them? oh and by the way where are the daily threads asking for a respec as radical as this?
just wanted to start a flame when i realised you could be serious ;) no, stats under 5 donŠt need to be put to a higher level ... itŠs just that you canŠt put one att thing lower than five |
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Pestilent Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:37:00 -
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If you have lower than 5 in one stat it can stay that way, until you change it, then you can never go lower than 5 after that. As long as you leave it as it is now, it will stay at 3, but if you ever put more in it to train leadership or whatever, you won't be able to go back to 3. |
Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:40:00 -
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so is it posible to creat say a 17 5 5 5 3 ?
shesh.
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Pestilent Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:47:00 -
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No, it is not. It is possible to create a 5 5 5 5 15 though. New characters are not going to be like old ones. Only old characters will have an attribute lower than 5. New characters will all be 5 minimum in each stat. |
Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Pestilent Industries No, it is not. It is possible to create a 5 5 5 5 15 though. New characters are not going to be like old ones. Only old characters will have an attribute lower than 5. New characters will all be 5 minimum in each stat.
ok so thoes old annoying Achuras who still have a cha of three will still have an edge over the rest of us.
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Rachag
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:27:00 -
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this sounds like a pretty good idea tbh.
lot of old players and uninformed starters out there that could do with this tweak.
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Skarned
Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:32:00 -
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Rejoice. Your badass, sunglass wearing, Brutor research alts are no longer gimped.
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Meylota LeFey
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:25:00 -
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Screenie of the respec window
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Raymon James
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.09 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Skarned Rejoice. Your badass, sunglass wearing, Brutor research alts are no longer gimped.
What? they have sunglasses! we all know that Sunglasses > all!
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rubico1337
Caldari nefarious badgers inc
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Posted - 2009.02.09 23:41:00 -
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as an antsocial archura with a charisma of 3, i am glad to see this new system |
Nadarius Chrome
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Posted - 2009.02.10 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zaiyo Modi Edited by: Zaiyo Modi on 09/02/2009 13:17:12
There is one thing I do not understand. What was it about your choice of attribute points that were so bad?
Can someone show me an example
With +9 to all via learning skills, no implants, mine are: Cha = 20.9 Int - 20.9 Perc - 16.5 Mem - 16.5 Will - 17.6
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Daemien Murdoc
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Posted - 2009.02.10 01:00:00 -
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Thank you CCP !
I can finally get rid of my base Perception 5 |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2009.02.10 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Meylota LeFey Screenie of the respec window
To clarify: You can only move the "green" points around, excluding the first one in each attribute (4 white and 1 green cannot be moved). The "implants" and "skills" points cannot be moved, they are just an indication of how many you have (including the "learning" skill itself).
The maximum you can have is 5-5-5-9-15. You cannot have less than 5 and more than 15 base in a single attribute. This also means that you cannot have more than 22-22-22-26.4-33, including all possible skills and implants. |
Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Valda So basically Stupid Eve Players can now undo their stupid mistakes?
They might as well do away with the character attributes all together and have every skill train at the same rate on each level.
Wow.
Guess you were just awesome from day one, eh? |
Hantu Laut
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Posted - 2009.02.10 07:11:00 -
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somehow this feels wrong. i got the impression that this is a kinda role-playing game. tho...lol... i tot i got it bad choosing achura (picked the char since trial and kept it - and clueless about the so-called achura "advantage") with maxed intel, and wished to put more into perception to my char instead, until i saw you guys stats, then my char is not bad at all ...
yeah, i can understand the feeling to change stats... but still... somehow this feels wrong.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.10 08:46:00 -
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I rolled achura since I liked the looks and their history. I'm glad that I can redistribute my original int heavy carebear stats to something more balanced or even perception heavy
CEO | Diary of a pod pilot |
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.02.10 08:53:00 -
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Bad idea, period. -----------------------------------------------
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 09:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 10/02/2009 09:11:25 I'm sure that this was designed to make the life of new players easier.
But who will gain the most from being able to respec every six months?
Newbies who have to train a wide variety of different skills, or the vets who can concentrate on a single category of skills for six months?
Bad move, CCP.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:41:00 -
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Interesting feature. It's indeed in SiSi. The attribute redistribution is not too free ofc, Was not able to remove more than one point of cha from this char, altho he has base 6 if I remeber correct.
I think (note sure yet, have to chek with other chars also later) that you can't lower attribute under base 5, but dunno, might be just quirk of the char I used to login into sisi. Did not encounter any upper limits in perc (that was relatively low to start with), then again I did not try to rise my int even futher (that is already as hi as I was able to make it at char creation).
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Joh Lan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:47:00 -
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I think this would be one of the best changes ever.
I created my first toon based on lore and ended up with a 3 perception Intaki.
After a month a playing around with long plans in evemon and some sleepless nights I realized how bad that is. So I had to create another account to correct this and start all over again. It wasn't fun at all.
A lot of new players might have no idea what perception is. And by the time they realize it's just too late.
So in the same time they could have a maxed level toon in another mmo they find out they have screwed it and there is no way back.
This is maybe the most needed change in the game.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Joh Lan
So in the same time they could have a maxed level toon in another mmo they find out they have screwed it and there is no way back.
The reason a lot of us love Eve is precisely because it isn't like other games.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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