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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:31:00 -
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I tried to log into the beta client and it won't let me. Under server status it says: Incompatible (Release). What does this mean? I was hoping to get onto SiSi to test out the t3 ships =(. Any help would be much appreciated. Oh, and I was able to get on a few days ago, and I haven't done anything to it since then, so I have no idea what's going on... Thanks.
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C4FF
Gallente
Ma-Ven Industries
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:43:00 -
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Yeah it doesn't work anymore, and you cant download the singularity to tq patch for classic either because it cant be found on the server (404).
Way to go CCP, you just alienated your mac patrons once again *CLAPS* |
Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:48:00 -
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That's exactly what happened to me too! I tried to download the newest patch and it wouldn't let me... maybe they'll allow us to dl the patch with the autopatcher... maybe? I don't know... does anybody have any idea what's going on with the Mac Premium Client? An official Dev response would be great... *hint* *hint* |
Aurora Morgan
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:51:00 -
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 Originally by: C4FF
Yeah it doesn't work anymore, and you cant download the singularity to tq patch for classic either because it cant be found on the server (404).
Way to go CCP, you just alienated your mac patrons once again *CLAPS*
Forgive me for sounding rude, but I am having a bad day and need to vent it on the forums.
But the new expansion depricates classic support, so there will not be a classic Tq to SiSi patch... well... ever.
There will only be premium and premium lite. |
Shin Chogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Casqade
Originally by: Shin Chogan
Can we have the Mac patch please :)
We're on it. We're releasing an updated version of Cider too.
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:01:00 -
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Hi all,
We're working on building a new full installer and patches for it with the new version of Cider. This is a bit tricky but we're planning on having it done tomorrow.
Until then you can use this patch to take you from Current Tranquility to Latest Singularity: SoonÖ
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.09 18:11:00 -
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Hahah. "Soon" as in, wait. Funny Casqade. Funny. |
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:31:00 -
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The TQ->SISI has been delayed. It should be there tomorrow together with the full installer and new version of cider.
I'll reply here when I have the builds. |
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.09 22:12:00 -
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Thanks! Instead of releasing a brand new installer though, couldn't you just send it on over to the auto patcher so we don't have to dl a new client? |
Jared D'Uroth
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Posted - 2009.02.09 22:15:00 -
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Just a question, will I be able to run the new EvE with an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT?
The mac is the only thing that I run EvE on, so it's rather important :? |
Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.09 22:34:00 -
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From what I can tell looking at the specs on the card, you should be able to run the premium client fine. I could be wrong, but try it out. I'm running it on my MacBook Pro with an NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT and it works fine.
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Selenica Draper
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.09 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Just a question, will I be able to run the new EvE with an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT?
The mac is the only thing that I run EvE on, so it's rather important :?
You shouldn't have any problem. I run the premium client on an 2006 iMac with an ATI x1600 and it's smooth even with HDR and shadows on. |
Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.10 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Selenica D****r
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Just a question, will I be able to run the new EvE with an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT?
The mac is the only thing that I run EvE on, so it's rather important :?
You shouldn't have any problem. I run the premium client on an 2006 iMac with an ATI x1600 and it's smooth even with HDR and shadows on.
How did you manage that! majority of imacs with x1600 won't get past the logging into station window! |
Real Poison
Minmatar
Ceptacemia
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.10 11:44:00 -
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cool i hope the new beta client will be ready when i get home this evening.
@CCP pls make sure there aren't too restrictive bandwidth caps  i don't want to wait longer than 20 mins  |
Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.10 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Real Poison
cool i hope the new beta client will be ready when i get home this evening.
I hoped for it to be done before DT today, but it wasn't.
I wonder if it will be done today as promised or if it will once more be SoonÖ with no ETA.
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.10 18:11:00 -
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So what's the good word Casqade?
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Selenica Draper
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.10 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer
Originally by: Selenica D****r
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Just a question, will I be able to run the new EvE with an ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT?
The mac is the only thing that I run EvE on, so it's rather important :?
You shouldn't have any problem. I run the premium client on an 2006 iMac with an ATI x1600 and it's smooth even with HDR and shadows on.
How did you manage that! majority of imacs with x1600 won't get past the logging into station window!
I forgot to mention I run Eve-Online in bootcamp/winXP. I haven't had a chance to get into the Eve Online Premium beta for OSX yet but I don't think I should have any trouble with it. Atleast I hope. I'm getting tired of rebooting to Windows just to play Eve. It's the only thing I have on the partition. 
Please resize your sig to less than 24000 bytes - Mitnal |
Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.10 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Reyn Atriedes
So what's the good word Casqade?
I'm sure he's doing his best.
I'm not sure I'll have the client when I'll be back from dinner.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2009.02.10 19:06:00 -
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Hi all,
As I said earlier I was hoping to be able to give you the SISI client today, but we're still working on it. I'll have more information about this tomorrow.
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Lebastor
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2009.02.10 20:04:00 -
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Hello Casgade,
That is actually what you said yesterday and soon it will be tomorrow. |
Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lebastor
Hello Casgade,
That is actually what you said yesterday and soon it will be tomorrow.
Valve Time
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2009.02.10 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lebastor
Hello Casgade,
That is actually what you said yesterday and soon it will be tomorrow.
Yes. I'm sorry but my prediction isn't always correct. If they were, I would probably be pretty rich and work as a stock broker.
Sometimes there are unforeseen problems that come up and things that we have to deal with that prevents us from giving you what we want to deliver at the time we estimated in the beginning. |
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.10 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Reyn Atriedes on 10/02/2009 21:21:03
damn =(. Oh well, as long as it works properly, I'll be happy I suppose. Keep up the hard work. |
Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:05:00 -
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Casqade, it's cool. I can wait another day to test out the new toy.
One of the main reasons I ever started playing EVE was because it was one of the few MMORPGs that offered a MAC client.
So I'd like to thank you and CCP for giving "The other 10%" access to play your game. (unlike George Lucas, who can only use a MAC to make his movies, but not his games).
I guess I'll just play the real version of EVE today.
AX
EVE Chicago meet up March 7th 2009
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Remus Navillum
z3r0 Gravity
Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.11 06:26:00 -
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Heh. Just as well, Casqade. The less distracted I am by Eve during a week of exams, the better. In fact, feel free to delay it until Thursday. Physiology test, you see. 
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:04:00 -
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More unexpected problems I expect? Still incompatible for me sadly. What's the word?
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:14:00 -
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I think that Casqade accidentally it. 
But look at the hours the man is working! He's working big overtime.
Hope they pay you well enough for that Mr. C. 
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Lebastor
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:46:00 -
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Ay. Maybe he just collapsed at his desk before he managed to press the Post reply -button and tell us about the available update.
Or maybe he just stopped torturing us by giving us some hope :p
With the current beta-state of the Sisi, there is not much point of wanting to test Apocrypha stuff but the new Cider-side would be nice to see.
Oh well. Maybe tomorrow.
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.11 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lebastor
With the current beta-state of the Sisi, there is not much point of wanting to test Apocrypha stuff but the new Cider-side would be nice to see.
Having a little bit of experience in CD/DVD replication and distributio, I'd be surprised if they can delay the gold master for another week.
I'm 100% sure they will need to go golden with an unfinished client and then let all those buying the boxes in march download a patch.
Nonetheless there are a lot of things I'd love to comment upon but cannot because all I know of the beta is from published screenshots.
What I'm most worried about is that I foresee a lot of problems for march 10 deployment. I'm affraid most players will be unable do play for a couple of days or more. I'm crossing my fingers.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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Rees Noturana
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.11 19:10:00 -
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They already announced that the version in the box went to press sometime in January I think. It was a special version of QR between 1.0.4 and 1.0.5 with the Premium content loaded for Mac to help reduce the patch size.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.11 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ami Nia
What I'm most worried about is that I foresee a lot of problems for march 10 deployment. I'm affraid most players will be unable do play for a couple of days or more. I'm crossing my fingers.
I might be biting my tongue in 4 weeks, but it cannot be worse then when Trinity hit the 'shelves', can it?
Until proven wrong, I keep with the believe that CCP & Co. have learned something from that 'experience'. 
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.11 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rees Noturana
They already announced that the version in the box went to press sometime in January I think. It was a special version of QR between 1.0.4 and 1.0.5 with the Premium content loaded for Mac to help reduce the patch size.
I missed that announcement. Do you have a pointer?
That's anyway what I would have also done.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.11 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
I might be biting my tongue in 4 weeks, but it cannot be worse then when Trinity hit the 'shelves', can it?
Until proven wrong, I keep with the believe that CCP & Co. have learned something from that 'experience'.
Hopefully they did. But they did not learn the "do not talk deadlines untill you know you can meet them".
They now MUST meet the march 10 deadline. It's not like they can handle it the way they handled the "Mac dev blog coming next week" deadline.
I'm not CCP. But according to the reports I hear of current SiSi status, that's were they should have been in early november to even consider a march 10 deadline.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.12 15:50:00 -
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Day 4. 'Nuff said.
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.12 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Reyn Atriedes
Day 4. 'Nuff said.
Yea. And they nerfed Casqade work schedule too: he's now working only 25 hours a day.
We love you guys. It's your masters that we dislike.
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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DauntlessK
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Posted - 2009.02.12 20:54:00 -
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Only 25 hours a day??? thats one more hour than is possible! poor guy.
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.13 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: DauntlessK
Only 25 hours a day??? thats one more hour than is possible! poor guy.
That's what CCP Casqade does in idle mode. You do not want to know what he does in Chuck Norris mode :)
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.13 12:01:00 -
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Today will be my lucky day, so let's all cross our fingers and hope the update rolls our way! 
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.13 15:16:00 -
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On friday the 13th? 
I think half of CCP stayed at home to avoid accidentally the whole thing.
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:09:00 -
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I know, ironic, right? I think it would be very comical for CCP to roll out the patch today, just to irk us. |
Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Reyn Atriedes
I know, ironic, right? I think it would be very comical for CCP to roll out the patch today, just to irk us.
It would be very comical for CCP not to roll out the new build AS SOON AS IT IS READY.
It's not a question of irking us. It's a question of getting as much as possible done before march 10. And given what I have seen earlier when I borrowed a friend's Mac that has a Bootcamped Vista setup and spent a dozen minutes on SiSi, they need all staff to work 25 hours a day if they want to have it about 50% ready in time. |
Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.13 19:44:00 -
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touche Ami, touche. |
Lebastor
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2009.02.14 08:00:00 -
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Meh... I was hoping Cascade would have been waiting for the next Sisi patch to roll out before he would give us the Mac-stuff. Looks like that was just me hoping.
If they dont't give us a beta to test with on the March 10th they will have out a badly tested alpha :( Which is not nice, as roll-backs would not be possible and we would just be kicked out from the game - moar ragequits from Mac users. I hope we have time to test things on Sisi well before the launch and maybe find the critical issues early enough to be fixed in time. We should not be forced to beta test on TQ anymore.
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Reyn Atriedes
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Posted - 2009.02.15 22:21:00 -
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So let's play the game, guess when the mac premium version will have access to the premium server again: I say either monday, or wednesday, when the patch goes out. What say you?
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Lebastor
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2009.02.16 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Reyn Atriedes
So let's play the game, guess when the mac premium version will have access to the premium server again: I say either monday, or wednesday, when the patch goes out. What say you?
Still living in hope - today - tomorrow :)
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.16 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Reyn Atriedes
What say you?
/Me is starting to collect bandages for the coming blood-fest when I've to bite my tongue....  
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Ami Nia
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.16 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
/Me is starting to collect bandages for the coming blood-fest when I've to bite my tongue....
Does that mean you managed to go to SiSi with the eretic client?
I did take advantage of a friend that has the thing bootcamped to have a look. And that's why I'm so scared.
In the 5 minutes I have been there I've seen so many problems that I could have spent several hours writing bug reports. It was in such an horrible state that I do not even think it is worth debugging at all: problems are so evident that no developer that runs the client can miss them. It felt like if they deployed it only to collect data for T3 balancing purposes.
Very scary!
Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers.
-- Sheriff Jones
apochribba
-- Aurora Morgan
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jinkoti boslin2
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Posted - 2009.02.17 12:44:00 -
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Hmmmm, is there gonna be any more beta testing for the mac CCP?
I know you guys don't like to be rushed, but this is looking pretty scary for mac users. Not like the "Mac premium Q1" fiasco, where we had a regular client to fall back on. This is the total discontinuation of the standard client for mac if i have read all posts correctly... Meaning that the premium 'lite' client is all we are going to be able to use post March 10th. And with just 3 weeks to go.. we cant even access the test server to help iron out the bugs!
Im praying for someone to flame me and point me in the direction of the correct patch, yet somehow not holdiing my breath too much either...
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Matharos
Dark Canyon Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.18 14:46:00 -
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Will the Premium lite run on 10.4 ??
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:41:00 -
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Ummm. Any word on that patch CCP?
AX
EVE Chicago meet up March 7th 2009
See forum thread |
Nethras
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.02.19 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: jinkoti boslin2
Hmmmm, is there gonna be any more beta testing for the mac CCP?
I know you guys don't like to be rushed, but this is looking pretty scary for mac users. Not like the "Mac premium Q1" fiasco, where we had a regular client to fall back on. This is the total discontinuation of the standard client for mac if i have read all posts correctly... Meaning that the premium 'lite' client is all we are going to be able to use post March 10th. And with just 3 weeks to go.. we cant even access the test server to help iron out the bugs!
Im praying for someone to flame me and point me in the direction of the correct patch, yet somehow not holdiing my breath too much either...
Me is glad I've been mostly using the mac client as a skill changer for quite some time now, after finding out EVE ran better in XP using Premium graphics - kinda been hoping I might be able to switch to just using the Mac version with a premium client being rolled out, haven't been holding my breath for it working well enough to PvP though
That said, I really don't see CCP leaving us without a working Mac client, even if that means an ugly ugly hack to, say, use the Rupture graphic for the Loki in the Mac client while they frantically fix the new premium client. The good news is that with the team structure CCP is using for this expansion, they likely have a team focusing on the Mac client, and considering the problems that Sisi has been having with the most recent Windows build, it's quite likely the Mac client update delay may not even be due entirely to Mac specific problems... crossing my fingers here 
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jinkoti boslin2
Firehawks
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.02.22 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nethras
Originally by: jinkoti boslin2
Hmmmm, is there gonna be any more beta testing for the mac CCP?
I know you guys don't like to be rushed, but this is looking pretty scary for mac users. Not like the "Mac premium Q1" fiasco, where we had a regular client to fall back on. This is the total discontinuation of the standard client for mac if i have read all posts correctly... Meaning that the premium 'lite' client is all we are going to be able to use post March 10th. And with just 3 weeks to go.. we cant even access the test server to help iron out the bugs!
Im praying for someone to flame me and point me in the direction of the correct patch, yet somehow not holdiing my breath too much either...
Me is glad I've been mostly using the mac client as a skill changer for quite some time now, after finding out EVE ran better in XP using Premium graphics - kinda been hoping I might be able to switch to just using the Mac version with a premium client being rolled out, haven't been holding my breath for it working well enough to PvP though
That said, I really don't see CCP leaving us without a working Mac client, even if that means an ugly ugly hack to, say, use the Rupture graphic for the Loki in the Mac client while they frantically fix the new premium client. The good news is that with the team structure CCP is using for this expansion, they likely have a team focusing on the Mac client, and considering the problems that Sisi has been having with the most recent Windows build, it's quite likely the Mac client update delay may not even be due entirely to Mac specific problems... crossing my fingers here
I really hope that that's the case! If its stuff thats not particularly mac specific we may get a client yet!
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makanesi
Minmatar
Solar Storm
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:24:00 -
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Wow! Still nothing!? A simple "we're working on it folks" would help.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.23 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: makanesi
Wow! Still nothing!? A simple "we're working on it folks" would help.
You already got that:
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:31:00 - [8]
The TQ->SISI has been delayed. It should be there tomorrow together with the full installer and new version of cider.
I'll reply here when I have the builds.
So, no reply = no builds.
Just wait. Be patient. Nothing we can do to help out, now. Chill. Stop whining as a certain Dr. sheep would say. Relax, and hope for the best.
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: makanesi
Wow! Still nothing!? A simple "we're working on it folks" would help.
You already got that:
Quote:
Posted - 2009.02.09 20:31:00 - [8]
The TQ->SISI has been delayed. It should be there tomorrow together with the full installer and new version of cider.
I'll reply here when I have the builds.
So, no reply = no builds.
Just wait. Be patient. Nothing we can do to help out, now. Chill. Stop whining as a certain Dr. sheep would say. Relax, and hope for the best.
To be fair, we're down to 2 weeks until M10. Considering how little bug reporting and fixing can be done in 2 weeks from past experience, it's probably an appropriate time to panic.
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Lead Megalomanic
EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf |
Lan Staz
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Posted - 2009.02.24 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition
To be fair, we're down to 2 weeks until M10. Considering how little bug reporting and fixing can be done in 2 weeks from past experience, it's probably an appropriate time to panic.
I hate to say it, but I think this is a good time to be exploring temporary alternatives to the Mac client (bootcamp, Parallels, "pure" Wine, etc.)
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GusGorman
Caldari
Explore and Evolve
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:06:00 -
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i think your right. i hope that march 10th arrives and i still have a working client of some description, otherwise it's try and get the pc version working in some way or another.
if so, what is the point in a mac client ccp?
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Lan Staz
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Posted - 2009.02.24 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: GusGorman
if so, what is the point in a mac client ccp?
I'm sure they will have a Mac client that works to some extent for some users, and as soon as they have sorted out the most serious bugs with the Windows client they will start prioritising Mac client issues. My prediction would be...
* Initial release works reasonably well on some Macs with specific hardware and OS versions, very buggy for many others
* Some of the bugs will be serious enough to make the Mac client effectivly unplayable for a sizable minority of Mac users
* We'll see a massive increase in flame-quitting on the forums
* There will then be a number of "point" releases, with gradual improvements to Mac client stability and performance
* For each patch there will be the usual revert patch in case it makes things worse for some people
* In a couple of months the Mac client reaches the level of stability it has atm with Classic
* Over the months that follow that, the single codebase (and dropping support for older macs) allows them to push stability even higher
Of course, I really hope I'm wrong and it all goes smoothly.
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Khana Loaris
Seidh Technologies
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Posted - 2009.02.25 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lan Staz
Of course, I really hope I'm wrong and it all goes smoothly.
I'd advise you to not hold your breath...
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khana Loaris
Originally by: Lan Staz
Of course, I really hope I'm wrong and it all goes smoothly.
I'd advise you to not hold your breath...
*checks Lan Staz's corp*
No, I'm quite alright with him holding his breath. From my perspective I win either way.
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Lead Megalomanic
EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map
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