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Lumen Atra Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 17:17:00 - [121] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver a strategist explain the fault in this. what if kenny fell back to period basis and fortified it as best they could with their titans and caps, and did the whole, 3xddd any invading fleets like they did before when defending delve? with their allies (assuming they are still allies) stain/coven/aaa, almost finished purging the enemy space in the south, they would be ripe poised to help out kenny (who would rise up from period basis) long before anyone attained sov 3 in delve again. BoB and AAA and company couldn't make headway into their invasion of our space 2 weeks ago. And you think kenny losing all their space will put them in a BETTER position to attack? Also, for the dolts: waiting is not a strategy by itself. Waiting by itself is a coin toss - you are relying on luck. Waiting while doing something that makes the wait worthwhile (ie, you aren't leaving it up to luck)(ie, back in the day when a siege meant cutting off all food supply to some place) is strategy. What kenny is doing is tossing a coin.
Aepozxlu Gkistvyn Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:09:00 - [122] Originally by: Lumen Atra Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver a strategist explain the fault in this. what if kenny fell back to period basis and fortified it as best they could with their titans and caps, and did the whole, 3xddd any invading fleets like they did before when defending delve? with their allies (assuming they are still allies) stain/coven/aaa, almost finished purging the enemy space in the south, they would be ripe poised to help out kenny (who would rise up from period basis) long before anyone attained sov 3 in delve again. BoB and AAA and company couldn't make headway into their invasion of our space 2 weeks ago. And you think kenny losing all their space will put them in a BETTER position to attack? Also, for the dolts: waiting is not a strategy by itself. Waiting by itself is a coin toss - you are relying on luck. Waiting while doing something that makes the wait worthwhile (ie, you aren't leaving it up to luck)(ie, back in the day when a siege meant cutting off all food supply to some place) is strategy. What kenny is doing is tossing a coin. As a certified band of brothers strategist,
Marcia Dante Minmatar CyberDyne Industries	Posted - 2009.02.19 22:20:00 - [123] Originally by: Aren Evalin I bet RA/xDx/solarfleet are just dying for stAAAinwagon to commit any significant resources to delve. High end moon whoring last weekend?
Ahistaja Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 22:53:00 - [124] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver a strategist explain the fault in this. what if kenny fell back to period basis and fortified it as best they could with their titans and caps, and did the whole, 3xddd any invading fleets like they did before when defending delve? with their allies (assuming they are still allies) stain/coven/aaa, almost finished purging the enemy space in the south, they would be ripe poised to help out kenny (who would rise up from period basis) long before anyone attained sov 3 in delve again. hurf blurf seriouspost, sorry guys Period Basis is a dead end. If you look at your eve map, you see connections to Paragon Soul, but capital ships can't come and go from there. What you're left with then are a sh!tload of Kenny caps and supercaps trapped in a corner - assuming they make it out of Delve alive in the first place. With logistics chains to empire difficult at best, Kenny would have little to do other than DD an onslaught of subcaps. Should they venture back into Delve, they'll get hotdropped and killed. Should they fail to defend a cynojammed system and commit capitals anyway, they'll get hotdropped and killed. This, of course, assumes that their systems in Period Basis will achieve sov 3 before we come purge them anyhow, which is not likely given our rate of success so far. This all supposes that Kenny will be able to muster their own people to mobilize at all. At this point, firesales and jumpclones to Jita are far more likely. A year ago, BoB was able to rely on their networks of jump bridges, cynojammers and titans in order to make "fortress delve" a reality. In spite of this, we were able to (briefly) keep them locked down in grapecages like we are in PR- right now. They no longer have this crutch, and we're seeing the Kenny paper wounded tiger for what it is: an incompetent, hobbled mess. As for their kinda-sorta allies SE and -A-, I wouldn't count on them attempting any sort of meaningful rescue effort. They're getting a free lunch right now and won't risk a capital boondoggle at a 3:1 disadvantage. The window of opportunity for that kind of effort has already come and gone. It's not a winning position. At best, Ken & Barbie are facing a firing squad with their backs against the wall. EXE is doing the right thing by warning their members to evac their stuff to empire while there's still time. Maybe Kenny should follow suit.
Sir NoPopOllie Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:02:00 - [125] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Of course it will work. Not because it's a good tactic. But because the only stable thing in the EVE universe is coalition failure. yeah they sure failed during that max damage thing boy howdy~ First, take a big step back... and literally, ** YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of goon bull power play you're trying to pull here, but Delve is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down in a godly ing firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call ing Concord and get a ing binding resolution to keep me from ing destroying you. I'm talking scorched earth, mother**er! I will massacre you! I WILL REPAIR YOUR HEATER!
Ender Wiggan Gallente VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:17:00 - [126] Eventually GBC decided to withdraw from Delve and attack 1-Smeb and surrounds. GBC limited themselves to frigates, declared war on Goons, NC, PL, and TCF, and had a jolly good time in low-sec space. Goon kept up a 23 hour station camp for almost 1 weeks while nothing much happened. Goon quickly started wandering off and declared victory. GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. The "unbiased" political map no longer listed GBC as owning Delve, because there are no GBC.
Sir NoPopOllie Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:26:00 - [127] Originally by: Ender Wiggan Eventually GBC decided to withdraw from Delve and attack 1-Smeb and surrounds. GBC limited themselves to frigates, declared war on Goons, NC, PL, and TCF, and had a jolly good time in low-sec space. Goon kept up a 23 hour station camp for almost 1 weeks while nothing much happened. Goon quickly started wandering off and declared victory. GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. The "unbiased" political map no longer listed GBC as owning Delve, because there are no GBC. Pretty much. No starbases have been destroyed so far. Goonie boonies have achieved nothing during the last weeks.
Devian 666 Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:30:00 - [128] Originally by: Ender Wiggan GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. So the GBC are all empire alliances preparing to move into 0.0? Congratulations on losing. With respect to your newbie drive you may not want to upset KenZoku with all those t1 frigates. http://obeythekitten.com/
Ender Wiggan Gallente VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:38:00 - [129] Edited by: Ender Wiggan on 20/02/2009 02:38:50 Silly me, all material gathered from sources should be correctly referenced: http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Goonswarm_(Player_alliance) Edit: You see what I did there?
Sir NoPopOllie Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:42:00 - [130] Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: Ender Wiggan GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. So the GBC are all empire alliances preparing to move into 0.0? Congratulations on losing. With respect to your newbie drive you may not want to upset KenZoku with all those t1 frigates. I was just reading the goonie forums on my spy account and apparently the mittani wants you to report to the good posting training camp immediately. Off you go.

Devian 666 Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:45:00 - [131] Originally by: Ender Wiggan Edited by: Ender Wiggan on 20/02/2009 02:38:50 Silly me, all material gathered from sources should be correctly referenced: http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Goonswarm_(Player_alliance) Edit: You see what I did there? You're saying that GKC want to be like GoonSwarm? http://obeythekitten.com/
Ender Wiggan Gallente VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:47:00 - [132] Why not? Can't argue with history, if it worked once it can work again right?
Devian 666 Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:47:00 - [133] Originally by: Sir NoPopOllie Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: Ender Wiggan GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. So the GBC are all empire alliances preparing to move into 0.0? Congratulations on losing. With respect to your newbie drive you may not want to upset KenZoku with all those t1 frigates. I was just reading the goonie forums on my spy account and apparently the mittani wants you to report to the good posting training camp immediately. Off you go. You should have been on TS when mittens described how much he enjoys my posting. Accept my spy into BoB and I'll consider learning how to post. http://obeythekitten.com/
Sir NoPopOllie Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.20 02:51:00 - [134] Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: Sir NoPopOllie Originally by: Devian 666 Originally by: Ender Wiggan GBC quickly moved back in force to mine and mission and start a newbie drive. So the GBC are all empire alliances preparing to move into 0.0? Congratulations on losing. With respect to your newbie drive you may not want to upset KenZoku with all those t1 frigates. I was just reading the goonie forums on my spy account and apparently the mittani wants you to report to the good posting training camp immediately. Off you go. You should have been on TS when mittens described how much he enjoys my posting. Accept my spy into BoB and I'll consider learning how to post. Don't worry our spies will be posting recording of your director level discussions of your posting. Make no mistake. It will happen, soon. So, relax, breathe, have a scotch and enjoy the ride ladies, it will be one to remember.


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