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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Universe
Who's dumb?, do you really think a gang of mostly Gallente ships warps into 20 km and start the fight there?.
HAHAH, your really trying to look stupid here.
OFC the gang with Gallente ships will warp right on top of you ass and pwn the crap out of you dude.
And if you jump in to a system that is camped by someone, and land 20-25 km from them, then how long time does it take to MWD 15-17 km in a Mega?, meh, only some few secs. Oh noes, ONLY some few secs.
So, you still wanna try to look away from how things are?.
Who the hell mentioned a gang of Gallente ships????? Jeez you've lost the plot, maybe you should follow your main and stop posting.
Just out of interest, why did you stop posting with your main? Embarrest I guess.
Regards Mag's |
The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:50:00 -
[722]
Originally by: Mila Prestoc
Originally by: The Djego Well you can fix T2 Short range Amno. Giving it more Damage makes Faction Amno obsoleet, taking away the penaltys will do this to. With the 60% Web(what is to low actualy) CCP created a brillant new role for a T2 Amno -> less Damage, more tracking/smaller Sig resulution/more speed for Missles -> defensive Amno vs smaller Stuff at close range what actualy would be a great role for it and makes all usefull instead of switching 2 from usefull to obsoleet.
Well faction items are nearly always better than t2, my issue is the gap between faction and t2 ammo is to big.
I'm completely against tracking bonused ammo, it will just make using smaller ships pointless. Thats kind of how things were before the nano age, big ships = insta death unless you can run away or abuse EW.
Well people gang up or fit more Neuts this days. Im personaly mostly looking for a solution in small scale/solo. So about 100% more tracking 30% of the actual Damage and a penalty that hurts very hard in bigger Gangs, Scan resultion comes in mind here. Would be at least a deacend role.
Originally by: Mila Prestoc
Going completely from memory here but what I do like is how Null works with ranges. It doesn't reduce optimal as much as AM but also reduces falloff. So increases the range at which it can do full damage but also increases the rate at which the damage drops off. If there was no tracking penalty I think it would be a viable alternative to faction AM.
Hail on the other hand is completely overpenalized with optimal, falloff and tracking penalties. If it had say no tracking penalty or optimal penalty (maybe bonus) it would give another option.
Just brainstorm here, could be mad.
Null increases Optimal and Falloff by 25% with a 25% Tracking Penalty. Void decreases Optimal(by 25%, AN by 50%) and also cuts Falloff into halve with 50% Trackng Penalty(plus 25% more Cap need).
Hail does exactly the same(with even less Optimal than Void and with the Cap Recharge penalty instead of more Cap use for the guns since they are capless). Actualy it is also the only Amno that outperfoms his Faction Counterpart(more Raw Damage, extrem high Explosive amount in the DPS mix) but the problem is that AKs donŠt have any real Optimal Range and the tracking Penalty gets even more worse for firing in Falloff.
Null actualy reduces the DPS by a fair amout(about 25%) and gives another 5km Optimal(with Neutrons), there arnŠt many situations the extra Optimal realy would make the diffrence, it is actualy the ability with BS to hit the edge of Disruptor Range against stuff you canŠt reach(a Option other Weapon Systems have with T1 Amno, exept Torps without the range Bonus). With medium Electrons you need this Amno to hit anything beyond 7km allready with some DPS. Shure we could tweak Void, Hail and Conflag but in the end it does the same thing like Faction Amno and one of them will be clearly better and the other one worse(like it is now). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Lord Eremet
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:52:00 -
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Electric Universe = NightmareX ?
I bet one mil that it his him, no earlier posts made from Electric except in this thread. Or is it a coincidence that he suddenly show up right after that NighmareX probably got forum banned?
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:53:00 -
[724]
Originally by: Lord Eremet Electric Universe = NightmareX ?
I bet one mil that it his him, no earlier posts made from Electric except in this thread. Or is it a coincidence that he suddenly show up right after that NighmareX probably got forum banned?
It is him.
Regards Mag's |
maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:00:00 -
[725]
Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2009 18:01:47
Originally by: Electric Universe
First off, yes, if you use your brain and use the Megathron with Blaster or any other ships / weapons right, you can ALWAYS get them to work, no matter what.
It all depends on the players.
Exactly so, and when both sides know how to use their ships equally as well as the other, blasters either lose badly if the fight starts at 15+km or win but take heavy losses if the fight starts at 0-5km.
Originally by: Electric Universe
Who's dumb?, do you really think a gang of mostly Gallente ships warps into 20 km and start the fight there?.
HAHAH, your really trying to look stupid here.
OFC the gang with Gallente ships will warp right on top of you ass and pwn the crap out of you dude.
The stupid person in my opinion is the one that thinks that the gang that the blaster ships land on top of will just sit still and not burn away.
The blaster ships may kill the first ship slightly faster than the opposing gang but after the first the opposing gang will be well out of range and burning away at speed while dishing out a lot more dps than the megas can manage at the ranges they are now at.
Originally by: Electric Universe And if you jump in to a system that is camped by someone, and land 20-25 km from them, then how long time does it take to MWD 15-17 km in a Mega?, meh, only some few secs. Oh noes, ONLY some few secs.
Ok so im jumping into a blaster BS gang on a gate to engage them with my laser BS gang.
1. We jump in all break cloak and burn away firing at the primary.
2. The megas approach their primary and need to accelerate from 0-800ish ms, now taking into account the laser ship burning away and also needing to accelerate it will take at least 20 or more seconds for the megas to get even close to optimal.
3. At this point il be generous and say that both sides have lost a ship each.
4. After finishing off the primary laser ship the megas go after the secondary and again need to accelerate, but this time the laser ship is farther away and already up to top speed.
5. The laser ships continue to melt mega after mega while the megas would be lucky to get many more than a couple of kills as they spend most of the fight trying to catch up with the laser ships.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:04:00 -
[726]
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Electric Universe
Who's dumb?, do you really think a gang of mostly Gallente ships warps into 20 km and start the fight there?.
HAHAH, your really trying to look stupid here.
OFC the gang with Gallente ships will warp right on top of you ass and pwn the crap out of you dude.
And if you jump in to a system that is camped by someone, and land 20-25 km from them, then how long time does it take to MWD 15-17 km in a Mega?, meh, only some few secs. Oh noes, ONLY some few secs.
So, you still wanna try to look away from how things are?.
Who the hell mentioned a gang of Gallente ships????? Jeez you've lost the plot, maybe you should follow your main and stop posting.
Just out of interest, why did you stop posting with your main? Embarrest I guess.
Uhm, we was talking about Blasters, and what kind of ships use Blasters?, yes Gallente ships and some very few Caldari ships.
And when we talk about Blasters, then i give explanations on how to use the ships WITH Blasters right.
Also, just to let you guys stop speculating about me. Yes i'm a friend to NightmareX, and this is also my Main character.
And also to let you know another thing about NightmareX. He have 10-11 days left of his forum ban. And because his alt is on the same account as NightmareX. Then he can't post with his alt either. It's simple as that. Fatality Killer is his alt.
sophisticatedlimabean also got a 2 week ban from the forum, but he have maralt he can post on.
Happy now?.
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Childstar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Childstar on 17/03/2009 18:15:31
Originally by: Electric Universe
Also, just to let you guys stop speculating about me. Yes i'm a friend to NightmareX, and this is also my Main character.
And also to let you know another thing about NightmareX. He have 10-11 days left of his forum ban. And because his alt is on the same account as NightmareX. Then he can't post with his alt either. It's simple as that. Fatality Killer is his alt.
sophisticatedlimabean also got a 2 week ban from the forum, but he have maralt he can post on.
Happy now?.
You post exactly the same way, you structure your sentences exactly the same way (one line at a time instead of paragraphs), you link to other pages exactly the same way, you make the exact same grammar and spelling mistakes.
You are obviously his alt on another account and i do not know how old you are but if you think you are kidding anybody you really need to grow up and smell the roses.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:18:00 -
[728]
Originally by: Electric Universe
Uhm, we was talking about Blasters, and what kind of ships use Blasters?, yes Gallente ships and some very few Caldari ships.
And when we talk about Blasters, then i give explanations on how to use the ships WITH Blasters right.
I'm talking about TQ gangs, not made up sisi type stuff, I've never once been in a mainly Gallente gang on TQ, and I was talking about the relation of damage to lasers, I never once mentioned Gallente heavy gangs.
Originally by: Electric Universe Also, just to let you guys stop speculating about me. Yes i'm a friend to NightmareX, and this is also my Main character.
And also to let you know another thing about NightmareX. He have 10-11 days left of his forum ban. And because his alt is on the same account as NightmareX. Then he can't post with his alt either. It's simple as that. Fatality Killer is his alt.
sophisticatedlimabean also got a 2 week ban from the forum, but he have maralt he can post on.
Happy now?.
Your posting style is very easy to spot, you're NightmareX. I'll show you one of your give aways, in a sentence below.
you post like this.
Regards Mag's |
Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:19:00 -
[729]
Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 18:23:07
Originally by: Childstar Edited by: Childstar on 17/03/2009 18:15:31
Originally by: Electric Universe
Also, just to let you guys stop speculating about me. Yes i'm a friend to NightmareX, and this is also my Main character.
And also to let you know another thing about NightmareX. He have 10-11 days left of his forum ban. And because his alt is on the same account as NightmareX. Then he can't post with his alt either. It's simple as that. Fatality Killer is his alt.
sophisticatedlimabean also got a 2 week ban from the forum, but he have maralt he can post on.
Happy now?.
You post exactly the same way, you structure your sentences exactly the same way (one line at a time instead of paragraphs), you link to other pages exactly the same way, you make the exact same grammar and spelling mistakes.
You are obviously his alt on another account and i do not know how old you are but if you think you are kidding anybody you really need to grow up and smell the roses.
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
I don't like the accusing thing.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:21:00 -
[730]
Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
Regards Mag's |
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Childstar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Childstar on 17/03/2009 18:29:58
Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
Its so obvious its laughable, as i say you even make the exact same spelling/grammar mistakes in the exact same way in your posting.
But what ever its your reputation and integrity that is on the line as well as the fact that ppl do not like being lied to, if you feel you still need to lie about it thats your problem but remember most people on here know the truth and can see it as plain as day and the more you deny it the worse you look.
I suggest you man up and admit it as denying it is doing you no favors.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:34:00 -
[732]
Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 18:34:28
Originally by: Childstar Edited by: Childstar on 17/03/2009 18:29:58
Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
Its so obvious its laughable, as i say you even make the exact same spelling/grammar mistakes in the exact same way in your posting.
But what ever its your reputation and integrity that is on the line as well as the fact that ppl do not like being lied to, if you feel you still need to lie about it thats your problem but remember most people on here know the truth and can see it as plain as day and the more you deny it the worse you look.
I suggest you man up and admit it as denying it is doing you no favors.
I will say it one more time and i hope it will be my last time about this. As long you don't want to get reported about this accusing thing.
NightmareX is not my main.
NightmareX lives in +lesund in Norway, while i live in Oslo. That's a 8 hours car trip from +lesund to Oslo.
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Fistme
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Comedy Gold
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 18:38:14
Originally by: Fistme
Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Comedy Gold
What's so comedy gold about it?. Only because i have a posting style that is similar to NightmareX?.
It still doesn't mean i'm NightmareX at all.
NightmareX still only have 1 account, and both of his characters that is his main character and alt is on the same account. So he can't post here.
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Childstar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:39:00 -
[735]
Originally by: Fistme
Originally by: Electric Universe
NightmareX only have 1 account.
So what, because i'm a friend of him and have almost the same posting style as him doesn't mean i'm his alt, at all.
This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Comedy Gold
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:42:00 -
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This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:43:00 -
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Yeah, say whatever you want, but it's not going to change me into being NightmareX only because of my writing style.
How stupid does some peoples get here?.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
In this case i choose E. other.
Simply because Blasters it self is good enough. It's the t2 ammos that need to be fixed for Blasters and eventually Autocannons.
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Childstar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
B.
Originally by: Electric Universe Yeah, say whatever you want, but it's not going to change me into being NightmareX only because of my writing style.
How stupid does some peoples get here?.
Not stupid enough to believe you.
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
B.
But not in its 4.5km optimal as it needs to do better damage between 10 and 20km.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:55:00 -
[741]
Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 18:56:16
Originally by: maralt
Originally by: Trader20 This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
as it needs to do better damage between 10 and 20km.
No Because Blasters are very close range weapon, that's a bad idea.
Fix the T2 ammo instead maybe?. So Null does better damage at those ranges.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:01:00 -
[742]
Originally by: Trader20 This thread is getting a little off topic so....if you were to buff blasters would you A. Increase range (either optimal or falloff) B. Increase Damage (or add/change damage type) C. Decrease cap usage (to leave more cap for the mwd) D. Increase tracking E. Other
Please pick an option and how this would help Blasters without being op. If you don't think blasters should be buffed then plz state why. TY for ur participation.
Mostly a tweak on Web strenght in general or specific for Blaster ships, fixes 3 in one -> ability to hold a target in place and control range better, abiltiy to hit the target with less Tracking Issuse, limited to Web Range(what isnŠt the case with Tracking). Basicly give Blaster ships back a advantage within Web Range.
Also B, to some amount(10-15%). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2009 19:05:21
Originally by: Electric Universe
No Because Blasters are mainly very close range weapon, so that's a bad idea to change the Blasters to do that.
Fix the T2 ammo instead maybe?. Make Null do better damage at those ranges. Isn't that a better idea?.
It hardly matters if you change the ammo or the gun to achieve the effect its the end result that matters.
Option B did not specify either gun or ammo and nor did i and you have mentioned ammo changes before although i did not think they were much help.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:06:00 -
[744]
Originally by: maralt Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2009 19:03:10
Originally by: Electric Universe
No Because Blasters are mainly very close range weapon, so that's a bad idea to change the Blasters to do that.
Fix the T2 ammo instead maybe?. Make Null do better damage at those ranges. Isn't that a better idea?.
It hardly matters if you change the ammo or the gun to achieve the effect its the end result that matters.
Option B did not specify either gun or ammo and nor did i and you have mentioned ammo changes before.
Well because the Null ammo is the range ammo Blasters have, then why not fix the ammo instead so they do better damage from 10 to 20 km?.
For me, it's sounds much easier to just change one ammo types instead of messing with Blasters, and then you have to mess with Autocannons again and maybe Torps again and there again, probably mess up somethings while doing that. Also most likely do something that makes something very unbalanced and underpowered.
SO yeh, the easiest way is to just change the Null ammo.
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Universe Well because the Null ammo is the range ammo Blasters have, then why not fix the ammo instead so they do better damage from 10 to 20 km?.
That is the type of balancing action we should avoid. It goes against the main role of blasters - which should be clearly defined as the best short range weapon, with poor medium-long range performance.
Good damage at 10-20 km is the role of lasers. Lasers deserve to be different, deserve to have an edge.
Each weapon should be really good at something, each weapon should have an edge. And they all should be balanced out by weaknesses in other areas.
Balancing things out by making everything more of the same makes a very boring game!
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Lord Eremet
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Universe This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Like you and bean did nothing but report/flame each other all the time in the previous pages.
Give it a rest dude you fooling no one.
I'm dropping this now, but please continue.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 19:15:08
Originally by: Lord Eremet
Originally by: Electric Universe This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Like you and bean did nothing but report/flame each other all the time in the previous pages.
Give it a rest dude you fooling no one.
I'm dropping this now, but please continue.
Anyone is alowed to report someone when they are accusing peoples for being something they don't are.
Oh noes, only because NightmareX and bean was reporting each others, does that mean i'm one of them only because i want to report someone for lying about who i'am?.
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Electric Universe
Minmatar The Choir
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:21:00 -
[748]
Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 19:24:32
Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Electric Universe Well because the Null ammo is the range ammo Blasters have, then why not fix the ammo instead so they do better damage from 10 to 20 km?.
That is the type of balancing action we should avoid. It goes against the main role of blasters - which should be clearly defined as the best short range weapon, with poor medium-long range performance.
Good damage at 10-20 km is the role of lasers. Lasers deserve to be different, deserve to have an edge.
Each weapon should be really good at something, each weapon should have an edge. And they all should be balanced out by weaknesses in other areas.
Balancing things out by making everything more of the same makes a very boring game!
Yeah, your absolutely right about that.
I'm just giving examples on what we can do to the whiners that can't use the weapons right after what they are designed to do. So we can get them to shut the hell up with the whining all day long.
Anyways, the ONLY way we can change something to make the Blasters to do more damages at those ranges is to boost the Null ammo a bit. No other ways.
But if that's a bad idea to do, then it's a bad idea to do.
But yeah, Blasters is ONLY close range weapons. No matter how good Lasers are at med ranges.
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 17/03/2009 19:34:31
Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Electric Universe Well because the Null ammo is the range ammo Blasters have, then why not fix the ammo instead so they do better damage from 10 to 20 km?.
That is the type of balancing action we should avoid. It goes against the main role of blasters - which should be clearly defined as the best short range weapon, with poor medium-long range performance.
Good damage at 10-20 km is the role of lasers. Lasers deserve to be different, deserve to have an edge.
Each weapon should be really good at something, each weapon should have an edge. And they all should be balanced out by weaknesses in other areas.
Balancing things out by making everything more of the same makes a very boring game!
Its about the definition of short and mid ranges.
0-45km is the max optimal area that all close range weapon systems operate within, some like lasers can use all of it and some like blasters use only a little.
As such we can divide that into 0-15km as short, 15-30 as mid and 30-45 as long for close range weapon systems.
Now lasers do 730 raw gun dps at 45km while blasters do 0 but at 4.5km lasers do over 900 raw gun dps that is only 30% less than that of blasters (even after omni resist are taken into account) and that 30% advantage decreases from 4.5km steadily out to 10km.
I do not see a problem with blasters out damaging lasers or matching lasers up to 20km after all 0-15km can easily be considered "close" when you compare it to the 45km + optimal available.
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Childstar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:31:00 -
[750]
Edited by: Childstar on 17/03/2009 19:32:51
Originally by: Electric Universe Edited by: Electric Universe on 17/03/2009 19:17:01
Originally by: Lord Eremet
Originally by: Electric Universe This is just getting way ridicoulus. Because you accuse me of being NightmareX, when i'm not, i'm gonna start to report peoples here that accuse me for being someone that isn't me.
Like you and bean did nothing but report/flame each other all the time in the previous pages.
Give it a rest dude you fooling no one.
I'm dropping this now, but please continue.
Anyone is allowed to report someone when they are accusing peoples for being something they don't are.
Oh noes, only because NightmareX and bean was reporting each others, does that mean i'm one of them only because i want to report someone for lying about who i'am?.
Seeing as you are asking..........i say that in my opinion its totally obvious you are nightmareX, and you are the only person who believes you are kidding anybody.
And it is not us who are lying about who you are(irony much), we are just giving our opinions about something totally obvious.
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