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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 15:23:09 i posted this in known issues and workarounds but it didn't get the attention it needed...sorta. so i'll try it here.
I have the new ATI X800 Radeon Pro and i've been having alot of problems
for starters WHAT THE HELL IS THIS VPU RECOVER??? every 5 minutes my game(s) keep crashing to desktop prompting me to send this VPU recover ERROR?! I know what your gonna say Well OmegaNutts just shut the dam thing off! right? wrong! when you shut this option off your game now freezes? WTF!
I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI and i've even tryed a older driver version and still VPU problems?
Second problem! FATAL ERROR'S!!?? now i'm not a computer wiz but when this window pops up and says that i know something is seriuosly wrong not only that but either my game will freeze up or restart itself? once my computer reboots a window pops up statiing something like "there was a unexpected shutdown because there was a serious problem with (a bunch of numbers would go here)
this topic doesn't entirely involve Eve-Online cause this happens with all my highly demanding memory,CPU and Video sucking games (DOOM III, HitMan: Contracts and Eve-Online)
heres my system specs:
P4 3.2ghz 800mhz L2 Cache 1024mb Dual DDR4 Corsair Pro's w/heat shield and LED 120gb HD Western Digital 7200 rpm 8mb Cache MSI Neo-2 Platium Edition mobo ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb DDR 8x AGP 6.1 onboard surround sound
PLEASE HELP!! ANYONE!!
i'm just wondering if its because the Video card is so new that most games don't support it yet? that and the right driver hasn't come out yet that will fix these problems.
Also i'm waiting on the Windows XP SP2 to come out. hopeing that will fix most of the problems
/me cross's fingers
is anyone else haveing these problems with this card while playing Eve-Online?
HELP!! ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 15:23:09 i posted this in known issues and workarounds but it didn't get the attention it needed...sorta. so i'll try it here.
I have the new ATI X800 Radeon Pro and i've been having alot of problems
for starters WHAT THE HELL IS THIS VPU RECOVER??? every 5 minutes my game(s) keep crashing to desktop prompting me to send this VPU recover ERROR?! I know what your gonna say Well OmegaNutts just shut the dam thing off! right? wrong! when you shut this option off your game now freezes? WTF!
I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI and i've even tryed a older driver version and still VPU problems?
Second problem! FATAL ERROR'S!!?? now i'm not a computer wiz but when this window pops up and says that i know something is seriuosly wrong not only that but either my game will freeze up or restart itself? once my computer reboots a window pops up statiing something like "there was a unexpected shutdown because there was a serious problem with (a bunch of numbers would go here)
this topic doesn't entirely involve Eve-Online cause this happens with all my highly demanding memory,CPU and Video sucking games (DOOM III, HitMan: Contracts and Eve-Online)
heres my system specs:
P4 3.2ghz 800mhz L2 Cache 1024mb Dual DDR4 Corsair Pro's w/heat shield and LED 120gb HD Western Digital 7200 rpm 8mb Cache MSI Neo-2 Platium Edition mobo ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb DDR 8x AGP 6.1 onboard surround sound
PLEASE HELP!! ANYONE!!
i'm just wondering if its because the Video card is so new that most games don't support it yet? that and the right driver hasn't come out yet that will fix these problems.
Also i'm waiting on the Windows XP SP2 to come out. hopeing that will fix most of the problems
/me cross's fingers
is anyone else haveing these problems with this card while playing Eve-Online?
HELP!! ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:26:00 -
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Fatal Errors are usually a sign that you need to upgrade your PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
VPU Recover is, I think, fixed by turning off Fast Writes in your BIOS.
You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2 here.
Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:26:00 -
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Fatal Errors are usually a sign that you need to upgrade your PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
VPU Recover is, I think, fixed by turning off Fast Writes in your BIOS.
You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2 here.
Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 -
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i can help out on the VPU recover. its a clever jobbie that ATI put into the cards. basicaly if your card runs into problems (overheating generaly) it reboots the GPU. normaly if this happens on a normal card the prog you are using closes down. with VPU recover it doesnt, the game keeps going (well it sohuld).
now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
as for the other errors you are experencing, i cant help there. with that spec your computer should have NO problems running the likes of Doom3 and such. so it possibly a driver issue. try getting in touch with ATI, thir customer service used to be **** but i hear its alot better now :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |
Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 -
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i can help out on the VPU recover. its a clever jobbie that ATI put into the cards. basicaly if your card runs into problems (overheating generaly) it reboots the GPU. normaly if this happens on a normal card the prog you are using closes down. with VPU recover it doesnt, the game keeps going (well it sohuld).
now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
as for the other errors you are experencing, i cant help there. with that spec your computer should have NO problems running the likes of Doom3 and such. so it possibly a driver issue. try getting in touch with ATI, thir customer service used to be **** but i hear its alot better now :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 -
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Quote: PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
what is PSU? and how do i disable my Large System Cache?
Quote: Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
sweet! i knew it thx m8
Quote: The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back
well i did pretty much biuld my Computer around the X800, is my computer not strong enough for this vid card?
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 -
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Quote: PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
what is PSU? and how do i disable my Large System Cache?
Quote: Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
sweet! i knew it thx m8
Quote: The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back
well i did pretty much biuld my Computer around the X800, is my computer not strong enough for this vid card?
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mon Palae Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mon Palae Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Inanna Sumer
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
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Inanna Sumer
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
really? i'll have to check on that. btw i have all my settings on deffault application controlled, is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
really? i'll have to check on that. btw i have all my settings on deffault application controlled, is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Sumer
Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
yes it is ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Sumer
Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
yes it is ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Procion your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
Excellent point. That occurred to me too but i forgot to mention it. I'd say a 400 Watt PSU minimum. 450 Watt if you like a bit of headroom on the system. 350 Watt will probably get most people by. 300 Watt or lower I'd expect problems.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Procion your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
Excellent point. That occurred to me too but i forgot to mention it. I'd say a 400 Watt PSU minimum. 450 Watt if you like a bit of headroom on the system. 350 Watt will probably get most people by. 300 Watt or lower I'd expect problems.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:30:01
Quote: now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
its a brand new computer. i have 3 case fans and 1 cpu fan with copper heatsink. everything is tempature controlled. Case is 27'C, CPU is 53'C, System temp. is 42'C and Graphics Proccessor is 46'C ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:30:01
Quote: now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
its a brand new computer. i have 3 case fans and 1 cpu fan with copper heatsink. everything is tempature controlled. Case is 27'C, CPU is 53'C, System temp. is 42'C and Graphics Proccessor is 46'C ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Procion Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
450watt power supply i have. and thx for the link m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Procion Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
450watt power supply i have. and thx for the link m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:36:29
Originally by: Mon Palae
Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
wow thanks alot m8, but i have no idea what you just said how do i check my BIOS? i have a MSI mobo and i don't see it in that link ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:36:29
Originally by: Mon Palae
Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
wow thanks alot m8, but i have no idea what you just said how do i check my BIOS? i have a MSI mobo and i don't see it in that link ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: ErrorS on 25/08/2004 16:55:16 Google motherboard monitor and let us know your voltages/temps while playing Eve. watch your voltages for a couple of minutes to see what the lowest it dips to is.
Ignore everyone who said wattage is important. Make sure you have a decent quality power supply.. name brand before wattage. A 300W Antec might very well be a better PSU then a no-name 600W.
Sounds to me like it's heat though... Be sure to get your voltages and temps while running full load (check after running eve for 5mins)
hmm.. short term you could try changing the plugin your Radeon is hooked into. I know with my 9700np ATi recommended it had its own line
Also, Athlons are fine at 90C true core temperature. A lot of motherboards don't read the true temperature. Most crap out at 60C or so.. Intel is less but I think their border temp is closer to what a motherboard might read.
though this does not sound like a temperature problem for your CPU.. but it's possible
Have you tried disabling VPU Recover, restartnig, then trying to play eve? is there anything in the backroun that might cause these problems? have you defragmented lately? this is pretty obvious ****, but double check it all before you start replacing PSUs and changing BIOSes.
Should also change chipset drivers if possible (dont know if someone mentioned this already) ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: ErrorS on 25/08/2004 16:55:16 Google motherboard monitor and let us know your voltages/temps while playing Eve. watch your voltages for a couple of minutes to see what the lowest it dips to is.
Ignore everyone who said wattage is important. Make sure you have a decent quality power supply.. name brand before wattage. A 300W Antec might very well be a better PSU then a no-name 600W.
Sounds to me like it's heat though... Be sure to get your voltages and temps while running full load (check after running eve for 5mins)
hmm.. short term you could try changing the plugin your Radeon is hooked into. I know with my 9700np ATi recommended it had its own line
Also, Athlons are fine at 90C true core temperature. A lot of motherboards don't read the true temperature. Most crap out at 60C or so.. Intel is less but I think their border temp is closer to what a motherboard might read.
though this does not sound like a temperature problem for your CPU.. but it's possible
Have you tried disabling VPU Recover, restartnig, then trying to play eve? is there anything in the backroun that might cause these problems? have you defragmented lately? this is pretty obvious ****, but double check it all before you start replacing PSUs and changing BIOSes.
Should also change chipset drivers if possible (dont know if someone mentioned this already) ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron wow thanks alot m8, but i have no idea what you just said how do i check my BIOS? i have a MSI mobo and i don't see it in that link
MSI = Micro-Star International <-- Linkage to BIOS download area
Also, you did not say if the temps you reported were idle temps or temps you get while running games. That can be a BIG difference. I have an Athlon 64, Radeon 9800 XT and two 10k RPM hard drives running and with two intake fans, three exhaust fans and a monster heatsink+fan running (not to mention mobo fans and video card fans) and my system runs pretty toasty while playing games. It actually heats my room all by itself. Point is cooling these days can be harder than one would think.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron wow thanks alot m8, but i have no idea what you just said how do i check my BIOS? i have a MSI mobo and i don't see it in that link
MSI = Micro-Star International <-- Linkage to BIOS download area
Also, you did not say if the temps you reported were idle temps or temps you get while running games. That can be a BIG difference. I have an Athlon 64, Radeon 9800 XT and two 10k RPM hard drives running and with two intake fans, three exhaust fans and a monster heatsink+fan running (not to mention mobo fans and video card fans) and my system runs pretty toasty while playing games. It actually heats my room all by itself. Point is cooling these days can be harder than one would think.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:55:00 -
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dont bother flashing your BIOS unless it specifically says it fixes a problem you have. You can kill your motherboard if you mess up a bios flash ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:55:00 -
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dont bother flashing your BIOS unless it specifically says it fixes a problem you have. You can kill your motherboard if you mess up a bios flash ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 25/08/2004 17:09:50 I forgot...
Getting into BIOS differs from one manufacturer to another but usually you will see a message appear on the screen (just after power on/reboot) for a few seconds that says something like "Hit DELETE to enter setup". That will take you to you BIOS.
A few things...
- Not all BIOS are created the same. Some motherboards will allow for a wide degree of monkeying with the settings and some hardly let you do more than set the system time. If you buy a PC from a company like Dell they tend to see that the BIOS options are extremely limited (reduces support calls to them).
- Messing with your BIOS settings can potentially hose your computer so be careful. Make note of any settings you change. Note the setting it is now and the new setting so you can go back and put it back if your system crashes. If you are not sure what something does leave it alone. Only make changes if you know what it is you are changing or are instructed to by a manufacturer (what I suggested above are recommended test settings from ATI).
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 25/08/2004 17:09:50 I forgot...
Getting into BIOS differs from one manufacturer to another but usually you will see a message appear on the screen (just after power on/reboot) for a few seconds that says something like "Hit DELETE to enter setup". That will take you to you BIOS.
A few things...
- Not all BIOS are created the same. Some motherboards will allow for a wide degree of monkeying with the settings and some hardly let you do more than set the system time. If you buy a PC from a company like Dell they tend to see that the BIOS options are extremely limited (reduces support calls to them).
- Messing with your BIOS settings can potentially hose your computer so be careful. Make note of any settings you change. Note the setting it is now and the new setting so you can go back and put it back if your system crashes. If you are not sure what something does leave it alone. Only make changes if you know what it is you are changing or are instructed to by a manufacturer (what I suggested above are recommended test settings from ATI).
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS dont bother flashing your BIOS unless it specifically says it fixes a problem you have. You can kill your motherboard if you mess up a bios flash
These days messing up a BIOS flash is generally pretty hard. The flash item can detect if it is appropriate to the machine and not run if it is wrong. Other than that you would need a power failure to screw it up (or turn it off yourself in the middle of it all). Usually there is a BIG warning to this effect while it occurs so you know not to touch anything. The Flash usually finishes in 10-20 seconds so you are not in a danger area for too long.
All of that said different manufacturers have differing levels of how well and how slick the BIOS flash process is. MSI is a big name and I would hope they have their act together in this respect but anything is possible.
If this is a new PC and was built from scratch a BIOS update may very well be in order. It is possible to check what BIOS revision you have versus what a new one is. Each manufacturer differs on how to find this out (sometimes it is not obvious at all) but if you see yuo are way out of revision level this might be worth pursuing.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS dont bother flashing your BIOS unless it specifically says it fixes a problem you have. You can kill your motherboard if you mess up a bios flash
These days messing up a BIOS flash is generally pretty hard. The flash item can detect if it is appropriate to the machine and not run if it is wrong. Other than that you would need a power failure to screw it up (or turn it off yourself in the middle of it all). Usually there is a BIG warning to this effect while it occurs so you know not to touch anything. The Flash usually finishes in 10-20 seconds so you are not in a danger area for too long.
All of that said different manufacturers have differing levels of how well and how slick the BIOS flash process is. MSI is a big name and I would hope they have their act together in this respect but anything is possible.
If this is a new PC and was built from scratch a BIOS update may very well be in order. It is possible to check what BIOS revision you have versus what a new one is. Each manufacturer differs on how to find this out (sometimes it is not obvious at all) but if you see yuo are way out of revision level this might be worth pursuing.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 17:53:00 -
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my FSB is set to 200mhz, should this be higher? i thought its suppose to be 800mhz FSB? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 17:53:00 -
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my FSB is set to 200mhz, should this be higher? i thought its suppose to be 800mhz FSB? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 25/08/2004 18:06:16
Originally by: OmegaTron my FSB is set to 200mhz, should this be higher? i thought its suppose to be 800mhz FSB?
FSB setting depends on the memory you have. The Front Side Bus is the path that connects memory to the CPU.
Usually these days people have DDR memory (DDR = Double Data Rate). So if you think you should have an 800 mhz FSB then the proper setting is more likely 400mhz for the FSB. The DDR RAM multiplies that by 2x giving you an effective 800 mhz FSB. Effectively you would need DDR400 RAM to get the 800mhz.
Again, this all depends on data you have not given. Specific motherboard and specific type of RAM (very specific info...LOTS of different memory out these days).
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 25/08/2004 18:06:16
Originally by: OmegaTron my FSB is set to 200mhz, should this be higher? i thought its suppose to be 800mhz FSB?
FSB setting depends on the memory you have. The Front Side Bus is the path that connects memory to the CPU.
Usually these days people have DDR memory (DDR = Double Data Rate). So if you think you should have an 800 mhz FSB then the proper setting is more likely 400mhz for the FSB. The DDR RAM multiplies that by 2x giving you an effective 800 mhz FSB. Effectively you would need DDR400 RAM to get the 800mhz.
Again, this all depends on data you have not given. Specific motherboard and specific type of RAM (very specific info...LOTS of different memory out these days).
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 18:08:00 -
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Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors
Memory = 2x dual 512 ddr400 pc3200 Corsair Pros 400mhz each ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 18:08:00 -
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Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors
Memory = 2x dual 512 ddr400 pc3200 Corsair Pros 400mhz each ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors
Memory = 2x dual 512 ddr400 pc3200 Corsair Pros 400mhz each
PC3200 Memory is made for a 200Mhz FSB. So your FSB setting seems correct. The DDR part of your memory gives you an effective FSB of 400Mhz.
The part I am unsure about is if you have Dual Channel DDR RAM and if that gets you an effective 800Mhz speed. Been awhile since I studied up on memory specifications...they really are getting confisusing compared to the good olod days when there was just one type of memory to be had.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors
Memory = 2x dual 512 ddr400 pc3200 Corsair Pros 400mhz each
PC3200 Memory is made for a 200Mhz FSB. So your FSB setting seems correct. The DDR part of your memory gives you an effective FSB of 400Mhz.
The part I am unsure about is if you have Dual Channel DDR RAM and if that gets you an effective 800Mhz speed. Been awhile since I studied up on memory specifications...they really are getting confisusing compared to the good olod days when there was just one type of memory to be had.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:08:00 -
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ok m8's heres what i've done:
my mobo is updated
all my drivers are updated
i've gone into BIOS useing the "Quick User Giude" and fiddle around with some stuff.
also your right about not being able to mess stuff up in BIOS, cause the system automatically detects something wrong and emmediately reboots the computer and sets what was wrong to default setting.
Question? AGP Aperture size was set at 64mb, my vid card is 256mb so i changed it to 256mg instead of 64mb. good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:08:00 -
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ok m8's heres what i've done:
my mobo is updated
all my drivers are updated
i've gone into BIOS useing the "Quick User Giude" and fiddle around with some stuff.
also your right about not being able to mess stuff up in BIOS, cause the system automatically detects something wrong and emmediately reboots the computer and sets what was wrong to default setting.
Question? AGP Aperture size was set at 64mb, my vid card is 256mb so i changed it to 256mg instead of 64mb. good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Nomeshta
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:15:00 -
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AGP Aperture should usually be set to around one half or one quarter of your RAM.
256MB is recommended.
- Caution: Ninja Fingers WTB: Implants
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Nomeshta
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:15:00 -
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AGP Aperture should usually be set to around one half or one quarter of your RAM.
256MB is recommended.
- Caution: Ninja Fingers WTB: Implants
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:17:00 -
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another Question? my system settings and Mobo utility settings are telling me a have 2x CPU's??? now i know i don't have 2 CPU's cause i have a fiber glass sideing on my case and only see 1 CPU w/fan&heat sink and the small North Bridge cpu w/heat sink only (i think thats what it's called?)
could this cause a problem? my computer thinking it has 2 CPU's? when it only has 1?
i'm a computer n00b ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:17:00 -
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another Question? my system settings and Mobo utility settings are telling me a have 2x CPU's??? now i know i don't have 2 CPU's cause i have a fiber glass sideing on my case and only see 1 CPU w/fan&heat sink and the small North Bridge cpu w/heat sink only (i think thats what it's called?)
could this cause a problem? my computer thinking it has 2 CPU's? when it only has 1?
i'm a computer n00b ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron Question? AGP Aperture size was set at 64mb, my vid card is 256mb so i changed it to 256mg instead of 64mb. good?
AGP Aperture Size merely tells the computer how much system memory to use to cache textures if it runs out of video RAM. In some cases setting this too high may actually decrease performance (although not usually).
The main system memory is only used if your video card starts running low on memory and most games today the developers are pretty careful about making sure everything fits in video memory. If the video card has to start accessing system RAM performance will take a noticeable hit.
So, setting it to 256MB is probably ok but not really necessaryąespecially not for a very modern card like yours is (any card with 128MB+ of video RAM). IĘd set it to 128MB personally but it is up to you. The recommended testing setting specified by ATI for the Radeon was setting that to 64MB which is why I mentioned it earlier.
As for dual processors showing up IĘd need to see where and exactly what information is being displayed to you. Some BIOS are used across multiple motherboards so it may know about 2 processors and show an entry for that while being perfectly clear in its own head that you really only have one.
Almost no games use dual processors whether you have them or not anyway (except for a special version of Quake I think) so I doubt it is an issue as EVE wouldnĘt try to access a second CPU even if your comp was telling it that it had one.
That said correct settings is a good thing anyway so if your comp really is reporting that it has two CPUs available youĘll probably want to stop that but IĘd be amazed if that were the case. Without a second CPU present IĘd expect most BIOSes to not even allow you to toggle a setting saying you had one.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron Question? AGP Aperture size was set at 64mb, my vid card is 256mb so i changed it to 256mg instead of 64mb. good?
AGP Aperture Size merely tells the computer how much system memory to use to cache textures if it runs out of video RAM. In some cases setting this too high may actually decrease performance (although not usually).
The main system memory is only used if your video card starts running low on memory and most games today the developers are pretty careful about making sure everything fits in video memory. If the video card has to start accessing system RAM performance will take a noticeable hit.
So, setting it to 256MB is probably ok but not really necessaryąespecially not for a very modern card like yours is (any card with 128MB+ of video RAM). IĘd set it to 128MB personally but it is up to you. The recommended testing setting specified by ATI for the Radeon was setting that to 64MB which is why I mentioned it earlier.
As for dual processors showing up IĘd need to see where and exactly what information is being displayed to you. Some BIOS are used across multiple motherboards so it may know about 2 processors and show an entry for that while being perfectly clear in its own head that you really only have one.
Almost no games use dual processors whether you have them or not anyway (except for a special version of Quake I think) so I doubt it is an issue as EVE wouldnĘt try to access a second CPU even if your comp was telling it that it had one.
That said correct settings is a good thing anyway so if your comp really is reporting that it has two CPUs available youĘll probably want to stop that but IĘd be amazed if that were the case. Without a second CPU present IĘd expect most BIOSes to not even allow you to toggle a setting saying you had one.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
No kidding? I did not know that.
Cool...learned something new today!
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
No kidding? I did not know that.
Cool...learned something new today!
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Khali Nephtys
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
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Khali Nephtys
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:55:00 -
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AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:55:00 -
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AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
Really? Do you have more info on this?
Fast Write allows the system to write directly to the video card bypassing writing the instruction to system memory first. This should result in a speed increase irrespective of the video card you use (assuming it supports Fast Write). The increase is reported to be 1-5% so you may or may not notice a difference (but every little bit helps).
That said Fast Write will seriously destabilize a system if the video card does not support it. This feature is also tied closely to the motherboard and its BIOS so while your video card may support the feature if your mobo and/or BIOS arenĘt up for it you may experience real problems.
I have a Radeon 9800 XT with Fast Write turned on and I have zero trouble with it.
All of that said if you are experience crashes/lockups related to the video card (as is the case here) it is a good idea to turn it off along with all other speed boosting features and see if you get stability. Once the system is stable go back and start turning things on one at a time and see what happens then back off the step that destabilizes your system and you should be set.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
Really? Do you have more info on this?
Fast Write allows the system to write directly to the video card bypassing writing the instruction to system memory first. This should result in a speed increase irrespective of the video card you use (assuming it supports Fast Write). The increase is reported to be 1-5% so you may or may not notice a difference (but every little bit helps).
That said Fast Write will seriously destabilize a system if the video card does not support it. This feature is also tied closely to the motherboard and its BIOS so while your video card may support the feature if your mobo and/or BIOS arenĘt up for it you may experience real problems.
I have a Radeon 9800 XT with Fast Write turned on and I have zero trouble with it.
All of that said if you are experience crashes/lockups related to the video card (as is the case here) it is a good idea to turn it off along with all other speed boosting features and see if you get stability. Once the system is stable go back and start turning things on one at a time and see what happens then back off the step that destabilizes your system and you should be set.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.26 02:21:00 -
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www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
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I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.26 02:21:00 -
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www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
-ErrorS |
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
thank God!
i do have HT ready on CPU and Mobo. thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
thank God!
i do have HT ready on CPU and Mobo. thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Nephtys Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
well i sure hope its soon
and i'll try disableing fast write and agp acceleration. thx luv ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Nephtys Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
well i sure hope its soon
and i'll try disableing fast write and agp acceleration. thx luv ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
hmmm? i've heard alot of bad things about the Omega drivers i think i'll stick with the ATI drivers just to be safe. thx anyways. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
hmmm? i've heard alot of bad things about the Omega drivers i think i'll stick with the ATI drivers just to be safe. thx anyways. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:24:00 -
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oh and special thanks to Mon you've a great help m8 you really seem to know your shi--stuff
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:24:00 -
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oh and special thanks to Mon you've a great help m8 you really seem to know your shi--stuff
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:39:00 -
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this probably isn't relevant but i would get an athlon 64 in there instead of that P4, just because 64bit is the future and you will get extra performance :D
(also i hate intel and love AMD but whatever) ----------------
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:39:00 -
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this probably isn't relevant but i would get an athlon 64 in there instead of that P4, just because 64bit is the future and you will get extra performance :D
(also i hate intel and love AMD but whatever) ----------------
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
i did check out this site and there is ALOT! of good info but i'm affraid nothing is working i suggest to everyone if your planning on buying the ATI X800? DON'T ITS CRAP! i can't even play StarCraft: Brood Wars without my system crashing
Also the only suggestion the Tech on rage3d.com could give me was to try changeing my AGP speed to 4x instead of 8x, of course this didn't work either so i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA" thanks for all your help people, greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
i did check out this site and there is ALOT! of good info but i'm affraid nothing is working i suggest to everyone if your planning on buying the ATI X800? DON'T ITS CRAP! i can't even play StarCraft: Brood Wars without my system crashing
Also the only suggestion the Tech on rage3d.com could give me was to try changeing my AGP speed to 4x instead of 8x, of course this didn't work either so i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA" thanks for all your help people, greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Karial
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Posted - 2004.08.28 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:52:51 Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:48:52 X800 works fine with this game, mine runs wonderfully. I also play the other games you mentioned without any issues.
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
Also, P4's have a quad-pumped fsb (200*4=800) so 200 is correct (unless you are overclocking), saw that question somewhere in there.
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Karial
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Posted - 2004.08.28 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:52:51 Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:48:52 X800 works fine with this game, mine runs wonderfully. I also play the other games you mentioned without any issues.
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
Also, P4's have a quad-pumped fsb (200*4=800) so 200 is correct (unless you are overclocking), saw that question somewhere in there.
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Thomdril Merrilin
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Posted - 2004.08.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thomdril Merrilin on 29/08/2004 00:34:37 I had a similar problem with my 9800 XT 256mb when it first came out...
It was all down to dodgey RAM.
Make sure it aint faulty/incorrect speed etc.
I had a dodgey stick in mine and I tried EVERYTHING to fix it, but it was all down to a dodgey ram stick...
Note. Just read the above post. CHECK THE RAM.
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Thomdril Merrilin
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Posted - 2004.08.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thomdril Merrilin on 29/08/2004 00:34:37 I had a similar problem with my 9800 XT 256mb when it first came out...
It was all down to dodgey RAM.
Make sure it aint faulty/incorrect speed etc.
I had a dodgey stick in mine and I tried EVERYTHING to fix it, but it was all down to a dodgey ram stick...
Note. Just read the above post. CHECK THE RAM.
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Sinjin Smythe
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Posted - 2004.08.29 02:13:00 -
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Quote: i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA"
Amen! These days nvidia and ATI are tied in the performance race pretty much, but you can ALWAYS count on nvidia for stability and compatibility. Go with 6800GT you wont regret it! (unless of course the problem is heat, then you will be worse off, but it sounds like it isnt)
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Sinjin Smythe
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Posted - 2004.08.29 02:13:00 -
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Quote: i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA"
Amen! These days nvidia and ATI are tied in the performance race pretty much, but you can ALWAYS count on nvidia for stability and compatibility. Go with 6800GT you wont regret it! (unless of course the problem is heat, then you will be worse off, but it sounds like it isnt)
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Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:45:00 -
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Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely. Had three or four hard-reboots in the first week, but the went away. I think I had some surges or spices in my power supply at home. Oh....the "Watt" number for you power supply only shows its overall power. But you system sucks power from different lines, like the 5 Volt line, or the 12 Volt line. One way to determine if your power supply is strong enough is to get a oscilloscope from a friend and check the quality of the powerline. But such equipment is not very common. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++ |
Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:45:00 -
[90]
Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely. Had three or four hard-reboots in the first week, but the went away. I think I had some surges or spices in my power supply at home. Oh....the "Watt" number for you power supply only shows its overall power. But you system sucks power from different lines, like the 5 Volt line, or the 12 Volt line. One way to determine if your power supply is strong enough is to get a oscilloscope from a friend and check the quality of the powerline. But such equipment is not very common. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++ |
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2004.08.30 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Karial
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
I also had a prob that I thought was my graphics card and Eve since it only showed up while playing Eve. It was fine running most my other apps that used a ton of memory crash free.It was finally traced it down to a memory stick with a bad spot in it. I ran memtest86 and it didnt reveil the prob but by removing 1 of my 512 meg sticks and trying just one stick at a time and then alternating them I was able to figure out which stick did not like Eve.
This prob personally suprised me since the same system I use for computer modelling and the prob never showed up there even tho my app uses the same ammount or more memory then Eve. I spent 1 month screwing with all my drivers in my comp until I finally figured out it was the stick of ram.
I dont know whats causing your VPU errors but with that bad stick of ram in my comp Eve would never run longer than 5 - 10 mins without crashing unless I never left a station.
Some thing to check, nothing is worse then a prob thats hard to track down. Good Luck...........
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2004.08.30 17:09:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Karial
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
I also had a prob that I thought was my graphics card and Eve since it only showed up while playing Eve. It was fine running most my other apps that used a ton of memory crash free.It was finally traced it down to a memory stick with a bad spot in it. I ran memtest86 and it didnt reveil the prob but by removing 1 of my 512 meg sticks and trying just one stick at a time and then alternating them I was able to figure out which stick did not like Eve.
This prob personally suprised me since the same system I use for computer modelling and the prob never showed up there even tho my app uses the same ammount or more memory then Eve. I spent 1 month screwing with all my drivers in my comp until I finally figured out it was the stick of ram.
I dont know whats causing your VPU errors but with that bad stick of ram in my comp Eve would never run longer than 5 - 10 mins without crashing unless I never left a station.
Some thing to check, nothing is worse then a prob thats hard to track down. Good Luck...........
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 08/09/2004 14:07:54 ok i have done a Memory Diagnostic check from Microsoft on my computer.
after 17hours of the test running it kept showing "LRAND" Failed! on almost every Test pass?!
Now i have no idea whay LRAND is but it can't be good if its failing! right?
I didn't let the Diagnostic test complete, cause like i said it had been running for over 17 hours how long is this suppose to take?
any info would be great thx ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 08/09/2004 14:07:54 ok i have done a Memory Diagnostic check from Microsoft on my computer.
after 17hours of the test running it kept showing "LRAND" Failed! on almost every Test pass?!
Now i have no idea whay LRAND is but it can't be good if its failing! right?
I didn't let the Diagnostic test complete, cause like i said it had been running for over 17 hours how long is this suppose to take?
any info would be great thx ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Euph
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 19:28:07 Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 14:25:51
I take it you built this system yourself and it wasn't pre-built from a shop (i.e. PC World or such) ??
I am currently building a new PC myself and have looked and the mobo you said you have. Did you check to make sure it was compatible with you graphics card??
Because im afraid to be the one to tell you this but the MSI Neo-2 ISNT compatible with AGP cards. It is a PCI-E ready mobo, so will not work with AGP cards. I dont know allot about PC's myself, but since I have been putting one together I have had allot of advice, and I think this might be your problem.
Ill post below the stats of your mobo, but you can also see it at www.Overclockers.co.uk
MSI 915G Neo2 Platinum (LGA775) Motherboard (MB-026-MS) - Supports Intel Prescott LGA775 processors with 800/533 MHz FSB - Intel 915G and ICH6R Chipsets - 4 x DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting Dual Channel DDR2 - 1 x PCI-Express X16 / 3 x PCI-Express X1 / 2 x PCI slots (Not compatible with AGP Graphic Cards)- 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88MB - 1 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Connectors - 4 x SATA 150 Connectors (RAID 0, 1 Supported) - 2 x USB 2.0 headers, 2 x IEEE1394 (Firewire) headers - Onboard Gigabit LAN. - Onboard 6-Channel AC 97 Audio - Intel Extreme 3 onboard graphics
Not sure if some one has already given you this info, but I dont have time to read the whole thread whilst at work. Best of luck getting your problem fixed,
Euph
=edited for spelling=
=update=
I have just been reading through a little of this thread now im home from work. You say you are using DDR400 correct? If you check this mobo it uses DDR2 (which runs at 533mhz) your DDR400 only runs at 400mhz, so you might want to check that as well, as I dont think your RAM is compatible with your mobo either.
(btw im no expert so could be completely wrong ) ............................ It Wasn't Me!! |
Euph
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Posted - 2004.09.08 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 19:28:07 Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 14:25:51
I take it you built this system yourself and it wasn't pre-built from a shop (i.e. PC World or such) ??
I am currently building a new PC myself and have looked and the mobo you said you have. Did you check to make sure it was compatible with you graphics card??
Because im afraid to be the one to tell you this but the MSI Neo-2 ISNT compatible with AGP cards. It is a PCI-E ready mobo, so will not work with AGP cards. I dont know allot about PC's myself, but since I have been putting one together I have had allot of advice, and I think this might be your problem.
Ill post below the stats of your mobo, but you can also see it at www.Overclockers.co.uk
MSI 915G Neo2 Platinum (LGA775) Motherboard (MB-026-MS) - Supports Intel Prescott LGA775 processors with 800/533 MHz FSB - Intel 915G and ICH6R Chipsets - 4 x DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting Dual Channel DDR2 - 1 x PCI-Express X16 / 3 x PCI-Express X1 / 2 x PCI slots (Not compatible with AGP Graphic Cards)- 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88MB - 1 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Connectors - 4 x SATA 150 Connectors (RAID 0, 1 Supported) - 2 x USB 2.0 headers, 2 x IEEE1394 (Firewire) headers - Onboard Gigabit LAN. - Onboard 6-Channel AC 97 Audio - Intel Extreme 3 onboard graphics
Not sure if some one has already given you this info, but I dont have time to read the whole thread whilst at work. Best of luck getting your problem fixed,
Euph
=edited for spelling=
=update=
I have just been reading through a little of this thread now im home from work. You say you are using DDR400 correct? If you check this mobo it uses DDR2 (which runs at 533mhz) your DDR400 only runs at 400mhz, so you might want to check that as well, as I dont think your RAM is compatible with your mobo either.
(btw im no expert so could be completely wrong ) ............................ It Wasn't Me!! |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Euph Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 19:28:07 Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 14:25:51
I take it you built this system yourself and it wasn't pre-built from a shop (i.e. PC World or such) ??
I am currently building a new PC myself and have looked and the mobo you said you have. Did you check to make sure it was compatible with you graphics card??
Because im afraid to be the one to tell you this but the MSI Neo-2 ISNT compatible with AGP cards. It is a PCI-E ready mobo, so will not work with AGP cards. I dont know allot about PC's myself, but since I have been putting one together I have had allot of advice, and I think this might be your problem.
Ill post below the stats of your mobo, but you can also see it at www.Overclockers.co.uk
MSI 915G Neo2 Platinum (LGA775) Motherboard (MB-026-MS) - Supports Intel Prescott LGA775 processors with 800/533 MHz FSB - Intel 915G and ICH6R Chipsets - 4 x DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting Dual Channel DDR2 - 1 x PCI-Express X16 / 3 x PCI-Express X1 / 2 x PCI slots (Not compatible with AGP Graphic Cards)- 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88MB - 1 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Connectors - 4 x SATA 150 Connectors (RAID 0, 1 Supported) - 2 x USB 2.0 headers, 2 x IEEE1394 (Firewire) headers - Onboard Gigabit LAN. - Onboard 6-Channel AC 97 Audio - Intel Extreme 3 onboard graphics
Not sure if some one has already given you this info, but I dont have time to read the whole thread whilst at work. Best of luck getting your problem fixed,
Euph
=edited for spelling=
=update=
I have just been reading through a little of this thread now im home from work. You say you are using DDR400 correct? If you check this mobo it uses DDR2 (which runs at 533mhz) your DDR400 only runs at 400mhz, so you might want to check that as well, as I dont think your RAM is compatible with your mobo either.
(btw im no expert so could be completely wrong )
thats not the motherboard i have this is the mobo i have--->Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors this is a APG mobo not PCI, my Vid card is AGP.
Also i didn't biuld my computer myself a compony called www.IbuyPower.com biult it for me, also known as MicroStarCompany. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Euph Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 19:28:07 Edited by: Euph on 08/09/2004 14:25:51
I take it you built this system yourself and it wasn't pre-built from a shop (i.e. PC World or such) ??
I am currently building a new PC myself and have looked and the mobo you said you have. Did you check to make sure it was compatible with you graphics card??
Because im afraid to be the one to tell you this but the MSI Neo-2 ISNT compatible with AGP cards. It is a PCI-E ready mobo, so will not work with AGP cards. I dont know allot about PC's myself, but since I have been putting one together I have had allot of advice, and I think this might be your problem.
Ill post below the stats of your mobo, but you can also see it at www.Overclockers.co.uk
MSI 915G Neo2 Platinum (LGA775) Motherboard (MB-026-MS) - Supports Intel Prescott LGA775 processors with 800/533 MHz FSB - Intel 915G and ICH6R Chipsets - 4 x DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting Dual Channel DDR2 - 1 x PCI-Express X16 / 3 x PCI-Express X1 / 2 x PCI slots (Not compatible with AGP Graphic Cards)- 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88MB - 1 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Connectors - 4 x SATA 150 Connectors (RAID 0, 1 Supported) - 2 x USB 2.0 headers, 2 x IEEE1394 (Firewire) headers - Onboard Gigabit LAN. - Onboard 6-Channel AC 97 Audio - Intel Extreme 3 onboard graphics
Not sure if some one has already given you this info, but I dont have time to read the whole thread whilst at work. Best of luck getting your problem fixed,
Euph
=edited for spelling=
=update=
I have just been reading through a little of this thread now im home from work. You say you are using DDR400 correct? If you check this mobo it uses DDR2 (which runs at 533mhz) your DDR400 only runs at 400mhz, so you might want to check that as well, as I dont think your RAM is compatible with your mobo either.
(btw im no expert so could be completely wrong )
thats not the motherboard i have this is the mobo i have--->Mobo = Intel 865PE Chipset Based 865PE Neo2-P (MS-6728)(v2.X) ATX Mobo Version 2.1 Deigned for Intel Pentium 4 NorthWood/Prescott(Socket 478)Processors this is a APG mobo not PCI, my Vid card is AGP.
Also i didn't biuld my computer myself a compony called www.IbuyPower.com biult it for me, also known as MicroStarCompany. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Xrak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:05:00 -
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the X800 has much better performance, stablity and its cheaper then the fat hot nvidea.
Sure they were good but ever since ATI brought out the 9000 9500 and 9700 they have been the much better cards.
I would say that you probly want to upgrade your ram so that you can get the 800fsb. (not sure on intel as they sux and AMD are much better)
On that point I would recommend anyone that is upgrading to buy a AMD athlon 64 bit (939 socket) as they are the future and are much faster, even at the old 32 bit)
ATI normally get major problems sorted within a few catalyst releases, unfortunately Eve isnt a big game and its problems are lower down the list then say a problem with Halo or UT2k4.
Xrak
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Xrak
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Posted - 2004.09.08 20:05:00 -
[100]
the X800 has much better performance, stablity and its cheaper then the fat hot nvidea.
Sure they were good but ever since ATI brought out the 9000 9500 and 9700 they have been the much better cards.
I would say that you probly want to upgrade your ram so that you can get the 800fsb. (not sure on intel as they sux and AMD are much better)
On that point I would recommend anyone that is upgrading to buy a AMD athlon 64 bit (939 socket) as they are the future and are much faster, even at the old 32 bit)
ATI normally get major problems sorted within a few catalyst releases, unfortunately Eve isnt a big game and its problems are lower down the list then say a problem with Halo or UT2k4.
Xrak
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Xavier Arron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Xavier Arron on 09/09/2004 13:17:48 Edited by: Xavier Arron on 08/09/2004 22:31:29 Edited by: Xavier Arron on 08/09/2004 22:23:49 Errors posted a lot of good advice back a few pages.
I would have originally gone with a heat issue, but since you have reported that the temperatures are ok, I would next assume that it could be a dodgy graphics card or drivers.
(edit: It could be a problem with the drivers, try the new ati 4.9 beta drivers.)
You tend to find with the high end stuff pushed to near its limit you can get cases of where transistors will fail under load causing errors and lock ups.
Are there any visual artefacts on the screen that look like they shouldn't be there? Even if not, get hold of an over-clocking program for your X800, try the site Error's gave you www.rage3d.com
edit: Linkage - soft overclocking program for X800
Then use it to down-clock the speed of your GRAPHICS card's processor AND memory by say 15-20% each.
See if this prevents the lock ups. If so you may need to send your card back for a replacement.
Another tip is to ensure you donĘt have a PCI card in the first PCI slot directly next to the AGP slot. This is because some motherboards use the same IRQ for both slots and a card running in the next slot using the same IRQ can cause problems. I have seen this many times before.
As for the ram test you performed. Try taking out 1 of the DDR ram sticks, and then running EVE and see if it still locks up. If so swap it with the other one and see if the computer still locks up.
ItĘs really just a question of fault finding and eliminating possible sources of problems.
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Xavier Arron
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Posted - 2004.09.08 22:20:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Xavier Arron on 09/09/2004 13:17:48 Edited by: Xavier Arron on 08/09/2004 22:31:29 Edited by: Xavier Arron on 08/09/2004 22:23:49 Errors posted a lot of good advice back a few pages.
I would have originally gone with a heat issue, but since you have reported that the temperatures are ok, I would next assume that it could be a dodgy graphics card or drivers.
(edit: It could be a problem with the drivers, try the new ati 4.9 beta drivers.)
You tend to find with the high end stuff pushed to near its limit you can get cases of where transistors will fail under load causing errors and lock ups.
Are there any visual artefacts on the screen that look like they shouldn't be there? Even if not, get hold of an over-clocking program for your X800, try the site Error's gave you www.rage3d.com
edit: Linkage - soft overclocking program for X800
Then use it to down-clock the speed of your GRAPHICS card's processor AND memory by say 15-20% each.
See if this prevents the lock ups. If so you may need to send your card back for a replacement.
Another tip is to ensure you donĘt have a PCI card in the first PCI slot directly next to the AGP slot. This is because some motherboards use the same IRQ for both slots and a card running in the next slot using the same IRQ can cause problems. I have seen this many times before.
As for the ram test you performed. Try taking out 1 of the DDR ram sticks, and then running EVE and see if it still locks up. If so swap it with the other one and see if the computer still locks up.
ItĘs really just a question of fault finding and eliminating possible sources of problems.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 18/10/2004 15:58:29 Edited by: OmegaTron on 11/10/2004 14:29:48 Edited by: OmegaTron on 11/10/2004 14:28:46 I know i'm over a month late on this reply, but i wanted to tell my helpers what the outcome of this issue was.
A simple driver issue
For some reason my Mobo wouldn't except undigitally signed drivers from Microsoft(drivers "not" approved by Microsoft that is).
So all i did was downloaded the driver that came with the Video Card (approved by Microsoft).
Haven't had any problems yet.
I just want to thank everyone for your help, i learned alot.
OmegaTron ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:26:00 -
[104]
Edited by: OmegaTron on 18/10/2004 15:58:29 Edited by: OmegaTron on 11/10/2004 14:29:48 Edited by: OmegaTron on 11/10/2004 14:28:46 I know i'm over a month late on this reply, but i wanted to tell my helpers what the outcome of this issue was.
A simple driver issue
For some reason my Mobo wouldn't except undigitally signed drivers from Microsoft(drivers "not" approved by Microsoft that is).
So all i did was downloaded the driver that came with the Video Card (approved by Microsoft).
Haven't had any problems yet.
I just want to thank everyone for your help, i learned alot.
OmegaTron ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:39:00 -
[105]
Originally by: OmegaTron
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
Yeah though somewhat buggy (Read: Buggy as hell, install at your own risk, prepare to format) ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:39:00 -
[106]
Originally by: OmegaTron
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
Yeah though somewhat buggy (Read: Buggy as hell, install at your own risk, prepare to format) ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Hardin
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew Johnson Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely.
Same - X800 Pro - been playing EVE, Doom III & StarWars Battlefronts on it and no problems...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.10.11 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew Johnson Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely.
Same - X800 Pro - been playing EVE, Doom III & StarWars Battlefronts on it and no problems...
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